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Buddy read -- 100 Days in Deadland -- through part 4 (spoilers)

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Randy Harmelink This is a buddy read discussion of 100 Days in Deadland, Part 4.

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This Buddy Read is sponsored by members of the Zombies! group. If you're interested in zombies, come join us there:

https://www.goodreads.com/group/show/909

This buddy read has been broken up into four parts:

Part 1: Beginning, LIMBO, & LUST (113 pgs).
Part 2: HUNGER, GREED, & WRATH (116 pgs).
Part 3: ARROGANCE & VIOLENCE (86 pgs).
Part 4: MALICE & BETRAYAL, plus the afterword and end material (121 pgs)

The planned discussion schedule:

Part 1: Starting on November 16th.
Part 2: Starting on November 19th.
Part 3: Starting on November 22nd.
Part 4: Starting on November 25th.

Links to discussion topics:

Through part one
Through part two
Through part three
Through part four


Teresa http://www.rachelaukes.com/for-book-c...

WARNING!!!!! SPOILERS ARE IN THE LINK ABOVE!!! I JUST REALIZED THAT!!! But it still might be worth a gander...


Teresa Aaaannnddd the last of the comparisons:

8th Circle: Malice
Chapter 18: The Flatterers Leave the park to get gas (warm weather, bad smells)
68. Cash listens to Hawkeye’s broadcasts and hears of new misery, tortures, and torturers.
69. Cash and Clutch go to a gas station with a slate/stone exterior the color of crude iron.
70. At the gas station, they are attacked by zombies that were walking in various directions. There are several zombies, including a single woman, a naked zombie, a zombie plunged in excrement.
71. Inside the gas station, two zombies watch them. Not explained in the novel, the two zombies represent the sinners, the boy being the one who bit his sister (i.e. one who “sold his own sister”).
72. At the end of the chapter, Cash and Clutch find that they want to leave, echoing Dante’s words, “and now our sight has had its fill of this.”
Chapter 19: The Simonists
73. After awaking from a nightmare, Clutch gathers Cash into his arms and holds her fast against his chest. Only when he regains his composure, he gently releases Cash.
74. When Clutch confesses that he killed Doyle’s wife, Cash says that her punishment was just.
75. At the end of the chapter, Cash is found looking out over the valley.
Chapter 20: The Diviners
76. At the church, Cash and Clutch fight zombies, including an old woman with her head twisted and a priest.
77. Afterward, they drink and clean up in the baptismal fountain, echoing the “Inferno’s” “springs flowing out of the waters of that lake to bathe” under a statue of the Virgin Mary (i.e. "tears of anguished sorrow bathed the ground").
78. The church is next to a cemetery, i.e. a city built over dead bones.
79. Cash notes that zombies tend to disappear at dark, except at full moons.
80. When talking to Griz, Clutch accusing him of making foolish assumptions about hunting Doyle. Cash acknowledges Clutch’s wisdom, and she follows him when he says it’s time to go.
Chapter 21: The Politicians
81. Clutch prefers to just journey with Cash and doesn’t want to meet with Captain Tyler Masden. However, Cash is slowly taking on more and more authority in the relationship.
82. Tyler assign ten soldiers to help in the attack, representing the ten assigned to help their march.
83. When the zeds corner them at the apple orchard (“The looks they cast at us were less than kind”, “See how those demons grind their teeth, menacing brows, promising trouble.”), Cash yells at Clutch to watch out (“Take care, take care!”).
How 100 Days in Deadland compares to Dante’s “Inferno” 6
Chapter 22: The Hypocrites
84. Lights and sirens come on in the Dog’s camp as a signal to prepare for a storm.
85. Zombies are chained around the perimeter in short pits
86. Mutt attacks a Dog by setting her “talons right into him, so you can flay his flesh".
87. But many of the Dogs escape. Furious, Dog reinforcements come and Cash and Clutch are forced to flee.
Chapter 23: The Hypocrites
88. Clutch runs over a zed wearing gaudy, dazzling clothes.
89. As they drive through town, they pick up more zombie company with every block.
90. They head to Tack's girlfriend's house to conceal themselves so that they are not hunted down like hares. However, the zombies find them, and they are forced to run (i.e. take “giant strides”) for their lives.
Chapter 24: The Thieves
91. The sun rises and zombies come from everywhere, showing how the "world changed face in a few hours."
92. They make it to an old, ruined industrial park.
93. They are exhausted from running.
94. They kill an inked biker zombie, representing the centaur with a fire-breathing dragon on his shoulders and snakes on his back and a "farmer" zombie.
95. When they see the road-blocked bridge, Clutch’s “brow is deeply furrowed.” They decide to try to climb under it.
96. The Dogs waiting on the other side represent the Pistolia and the other Thieves, intent on causing Cash and Clutch grief.
Chapter 25: The Thieves
97. The trio kills five zombies, representing the five thieves and two Dogs, representing two serpents. After being shot, one of the Dogs hisses and spits blood.
Chapter 26: The Frauds
98. Unknown to the Camp, the two Dogs are a Trojan horse.
99. A “sea” of zombies come across the field. Dogs throw a Molotov cocktail onto the zeds so that they are "wrapped in flames.”
Chapter 27: The Frauds
100. The Dogs throw another Molotov cocktail, which draws even more attention from the zombies.
101. After they escape, Cash bears new visions (i.e. “loads to carry”) of horror.
102. Hawkeye’s broadcast warns his listeners to not trust.
103. At Camp Fox, they have Italian for dinner, while they quarrel over what to do with the two Dogs. Cash and Clutch (and Jase) leave.
Chapter 28: The Scandals
104. Cash uses Jase's machete as they kill zeds at the tree. One zombie is pierced, its nose and ear hacked off, Another is ripped from neck to groin, while another has its throat slit, its head limp.
105. Cash reflects on what they’ve done (or haven’t done, in regards to the two non-violent zombie kids) and the repercussions. But they must “carry the news” so that others may live.
106. Clutch has another nightmare because of the death he’s caused.
How 100 Days in Deadland compares to Dante’s “Inferno” 7
Chapter 29: The Imposters
107. There are 22 miles between the park and camp.
108. Several are killed in the bombing, their bodies mutilated, left in scattered heaps.
109. There is finger pointing on who's to blame. Clutch says they will search for the Dogs and Cash. Cash & Clutch search the camp in silence, where they find two zombies propped against each other, their bodies cut open.
110. Camp Fox’s town hall is blasted with zombie-soaked grenades, perverting every aspect of good and socially acceptable.
Chapter 30: The Falsifiers
111. Cash and Clutch leave behind the two reeking zombies.
112. In the chaos after the bombings, a zombie sinks its teeth into a survivor's neck. A wretched, sad women "drowns herself" at the truck under the stampede
113. Cash kills the Dogs, employing rigid justice. Still, she cries at the horrors taking place.
9th Circle: Betrayal
Chapter 31
114. Cash lies with Clutch each and holds his hand.
115. The park is ringed by giant trees.
116. Griz comes for Cash and they drive through the morning fog to Jase & Eddy's cabin.
117. Eddy's betrayal led to his mother's death (traitor to kindred). When Eddy reveals Smitty as another traitor, the room feels colder as Smitty's terror grows. The two are heavily restrained.
118. In his final radio broadcast, Hawkeye (Doyle) speaks freely and accusatory.
Chapter 32
Smitty/Eddy are brought to the camp and killed by zeds. They realize Doyle has been at Dis all along
119. As they drive into the Camp, they drive slowly to not run over their loved ones who’d died or been turned during the attack.
120. Eddy’s tears wet the ground when he sees his mother. Eddy is eaten alive. Smitty is shot in the leg so that he is “stuck.” Eddy turns into a zombie and gnaws on the head of his fellow traitor.
121. After carrying out the execution, Cash notices that someone is watching/staring at them from DIS.
Chapter 33
122. Being forced to hide, the Dogs are slowly starving at DIS, reflective of the story of Ptolemy and Simon Maccabaeus. The Dobs are being punished more harshly than all others, since they continue to follow Doyle (one incapable of repentance) by choice.
Chapter 34
123. After Cash attacks DIS, injured/dead Dogs are contorted and dying.
124. She confront Doyle (Satan) at DIS. Doyle has red cuts on his soot-covered face and is wearing yellow hat, the three colors symbolizing the three heads of Satan, i.e. inverted trinity of impotence, ignorance, and hate. Cash defeats Doyle with a grenade "sphere" and who tries to hide behind his desk but that only further ensures his demise. Cash escapes the blast by climbing down into his bunker. Once awke, she climbs onto the roof.
125. The last word of novel is "stars.” The story is left incomplete as she is only a third of her way through her journey.


Teresa You can get to them all by clicking the link above (comment #2) and scrolling to them bottom. By the by...you guys wanna go over those questions after we are all done?


Randy Harmelink 1. What are your thoughts on modern adaptations of the classics (in this case, a novel paralleling Dante's Inferno to a zombie apocalypse)?

Since I haven't read Dante's Inferno, it was irrelevant for me. I enjoyed the story, no matter what the case.

2. In Lust, Cash kills her first non-infected human (the broken girl). Would you have killed the girl? Why or why not?

I might have waited, to make sure she was truly broken. After all, Cash won't let the doctor end Clutch's life, and he also appears to be truly broken.

3. One of the major themes of the novel is hope. Do you feel like hope is realistic or even possible in a post-apocalyptic world?

I always think I'd die in the first wave of any outbreak. And be one of the lucky ones.

4. Do you believe a worldwide pandemic that devastates the human population is possible in today's world? Why or why not?

Not a pandemic. There are far too many isolated regions in the world. I think it would need to be the opposite of a zombie apocalypse -- something with a long incubation period, so that everyone is infected before the disease is known about.

5. This is a story of survival against all odds. How would you respond if the world as you know it collapsed around you in a matter of hours or days? How would you respond if news updates reported that the end of the world as you know it was getting closer to your home area?

As noted, I'd already be dead. :(

6. As a followup to question 5, do you believe you could adapt like Cash did to survive? Would you want to adapt?

Nope. I'm already dead. :(

7. "Prepping" has become a popular term. Do you see value in preparing for the worst-case scenario (e.g., economy collapse, war, pandemic)? Why or why not?

Not unless you isolate yourself. In which case, you've already put yourself into an apocalyptic world. If people KNOW you're a prepper, and know where you've been prepping, you've just made yourself a target if your fear turns into reality.

8. The story ends somewhat unresolved and abruptly, as it had for Dante when he was in the Inferno. How do you feel about cliffhangers and/or unresolved plots?

I was unhappy with the ending. It did drop my enjoyment level of the story. It was a solid 5 rating before than, and the ending almost dropped it to a 4.


Randy Harmelink I was kind of bothered when all of a sudden Cash could fly a plane. Was that mentioned earlier?

I would think that would have been a handy thing for Camp Fox to use. She could have done recon work, or distracted and pulled the zombies from one edge of town to the other, so Camp Fox could loot the then empty side of town. Be kind of like a Pied Piper (in a Piper Cub!).


Teresa Yeah...in the VERY beginning, she said she was going to miss her flights more than anything. I'll find that passage later at work, too. I have around 50 pages left so, I'm going to finish up here in the next few hours and we can do some discussing! I'm just PISSED cause this IDIOT we hired keeps missing work and I'M the one that keeps getting called in to cover his shifts. I am WAY over-worked, and way underpaid :'( But, then again, I guess we all are...


Netanella Hey, where'd these questions come from? I feel like I'm in a BOTM.. :)

1. What are your thoughts on modern adaptations of the classics (in this case, a novel paralleling Dante's Inferno to a zombie apocalypse)?

I enjoy modern adaptations of the classics...isn't imitation considered a form of flattery? I thought this book did a really good job in shambling after Dante's journey through Hell. The book didn't beat you over the head with too obvious references, except maybe the "abandon all hope" quote at the beginning. It was subtly done, and the story was engaging and bloody and action-packed enough that any references to Italian epic poetry could totally be forgotten in the rollicking good times that is this book.

2. In Lust, Cash kills her first non-infected human (the broken girl). Would you have killed the girl? Why or why not?

Don't know. I'd probably have to be in that type of situation to know what I would truly do. I hope I don't ever have to make a choice like that, either.

3. One of the major themes of the novel is hope. Do you feel like hope is realistic or even possible in a post-apocalyptic world?

Of course hope is realistic and even possible in this type of world. I believe it's a basic human condition in all of us, although more so in some than in others. Although I have to say, as a major theme, its prominence is downplayed by the other themes in the book, particularly that of power and dominance.



4. Do you believe a worldwide pandemic that devastates the human population is possible in today's world? Why or why not?

Yup. Nuff said.

5. This is a story of survival against all odds. How would you respond if the world as you know it collapsed around you in a matter of hours or days? How would you respond if news updates reported that the end of the world as you know it was getting closer to your home area?

Hmmmm...


6. As a followup to question 5, do you believe you could adapt like Cash did to survive? Would you want to adapt?

I have to agree with Randy....I'd probably be dead.


7. "Prepping" has become a popular term. Do you see value in preparing for the worst-case scenario (e.g., economy collapse, war, pandemic)? Why or why not?

I live in Florida, so I'm prepared for hurricanes almost all the time. I get my annual flu shot. All of my financial resources are not in a bank. That probably covers the extent of my preparedness.


8. The story ends somewhat unresolved and abruptly, as it had for Dante when he was in the Inferno. How do you feel about cliffhangers and/or unresolved plots?

I enjoyed the ending - how the hell else could you end something like this? With Clutch waking up and he and Cash walking down a dirt-strewn road hand-in-hand to the next zombie town?


Netanella Just as obvious as the Cash=Dante and Clutch=Virgil connection was, the connection between Doyle and Satan was obvious. So knowing that Satan is also known as the Deceiver, the link of the radio DJ Hawkeye to Doyle was so obvious I feel a little moronic now to have missed it.


Teresa Well, well...I'd say this was an *almost* perfect buddy read! We all seem to have finished within 24 hours of each other! SUCCESS!!! I am stuck at work, and Thursdays are usually our busiest day (even though the winter slump is in full swing, we've been SLAMMED tonight). So I won't be able to get to the questions until tomorrow afternoon, after I sleep off some of my sleep deprivation. But I SERIOUSLY enjoyed this book!!! I found real connections with the characters, and I loved the rip-roaring plot pacing. Everything came together nicely, for me, at least. I always try and give 'series' books a little leeway in the end because...well...because there IS a sequel! So even though the end kinda 'dropped off,' I wouldn't have expected otherwise! Now, at least I know I have my 'D' book picked out for my 2014 alphabet challenge! ;-)

See you guys here tomorrow, or maybe later if you got more comments!

And Randy, let me just say that I hope I am NOWHERE near you when you zombify! The way you described yourself, you 'Ogre' you, is NOT a zom I'D wanna go up against!!! ;-)

And Netanella...I started getting an 'inkling' (had to throw in that Kraken reference since we kept hearing about Griz lol) that Hawkhead was Doyle, but not until like 2 chapters before it was revealed. So, yeah...we're dummies! LOL...what blows my mind is that the folks who talked to Doyle all the time (like Tyler, Griz, etc.) didn't recognize his voice! You'd have thought they'd have figured that one out, but Cash had to do that job for them...weird.

Anyhow, its been a pleasure reading this one with you! This was my FAVORITE to date! 5 stars! Hurray for Cash! Down with the Dogs!
~Teresa~


Randy Harmelink I was sure that Hawkeye was an ally of Doyle, but I had no idea it *was* Doyle. That was a shocker for me. But it makes perfect sense.

But why leave Clutch alive at all? Instead of dead like Jase's wolf?


Teresa I have a feeling Clutch will be back for Deadland's Harvest. That's why ;-)


Randy Harmelink What did you guys think of the punishment of the two traitors? I kind of enjoyed it. But I'm a sick little puppy (of an Ogre). :)


Netanella I think leaving Clutch alive gives him an opportunity to come back in the next book - as a zombie mayhaps? This is a sick, twisted possibility.

The punishment of the two traitors at the end was poetic justice. Death by zombie is always gruesome, although this sick little puppy wished that 1.) the zombies ate more of them and left them a visceral gooiness on the floor, or 2.) after the two traitors turned zombie, they weren't executed, but rather left to shamble along in all that nasty decay. Either one of those two punishments would have been more fitting to me.


Teresa I was curious about this...it NEVER makes sense to ADD to the zombie population, right? So when they killed them for good, I was happy. I was reading, thinking 'WHY? Why are you adding to the problem???' But I have to say, death by zom would SUCK! I'd have pissed my pants, too!!!


Netanella Teresa wrote: "I was curious about this...it NEVER makes sense to ADD to the zombie population, right? So when they killed them for good, I was happy. I was reading, thinking 'WHY? Why are you adding to the probl..."

I was thinking that exact same thing in another story. There's a scene in this zombie western when General Custer is making his "last stand" against the zombie hordes and charging in his troops on horseback to get slaughtered. There's no glory in that death, only adding to the enemy ranks.

Guess I could change my mind there, then, on the zombie execution of our two traitors. Zero Population Growth for zombies, too. Could make a cool bumper sticker...


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