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Buddy read -- 100 Days in Deadland -- through part 2 (spoilers)
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Wow! How bout the scene where Cash and Clutch tie the bodies of the rapists to the silo? That was awesome! I loved the reality to it; the message so strongly spoken. Too bad Doyle's Dogs are out there, and probably had something to do with this...so far, I am noticing a correlation with the section names and who seems to be getting punished/killed, who our band of heroes are coming into contact with, etc. But I am going to look for a more comprehensive breakdown of The Inferno to see if I'm missing anything. Like in Hunger...do the folks in hell gnash their teeth like the zoms? I'm pretty sure they do. I can't remember if Dante was left on his own or not. I have some research to do, I guess is what I'm saying. But at this point, I'm halfway through, and I'm still enjoying myself thoroughly. I love the dynamic between the 3 survivors. They all have specific duties and jobs and they are getting better at their tasks each day. I see them all getting better at long term planning...they are getting into the mindset that they are, indeed, living in TEOTWAWKI times! ;-)
Awww shit...its all coming together for me!!! The second circle, lust, is characterized by winds constantly blowing: "This symbolizes the power of lust to blow one about needlessly and aimlessly." That's EXACTLY what happens! Now, the third ring, Hunger (Gluttony) depicts people trapped in mud and filth...just like the zoms in Clutch's ditch! The more they moved, the further into the mud they sank...so there's that. Then the fourth ring, Greed, depicts the militia being so hungry for power, compared to Clutch, who is a hoarder/prepper. The original includes depictions of these two factions battling it out (although neither side is depicted as good). So there's that, too. Small things, I know, but I'm making more and more correlations every time I read. I'm not completely done with the 5th ring yet, but the zombies being thrown over Clutch's wall parallels the original. I'm eagerly looking forward to more revelations as we read...
But I will say one more thing real quick...what the hell did you guys make of Cash being stuck in air ducts for 8 plus hours??? I could only think WTF????
I can't believe we ended this reading assignment on such a cliffhanger. Geez.Camp Fox sounds legit. Jase's friend and mother are there, and seem to be treated well, since his friend came out with Tyler and doesn't appear to be under duress. And, the other Rangers that were part of Tyler's expedition were a big positive for me. The only question is how much power Tyler really has?
I'm thinking Clutch, Cash, and Jase might be best off at Camp Fox. Especially if they can get Tyler to take on Doyle.
It should be interesting to see the innards of Doyle's camp.
Teresa wrote: "Wow! How bout the scene where Cash and Clutch tie the bodies of the rapists to the silo? That was awesome! I loved the reality to it; the message so strongly spoken."
Loved it. Especially in contrast to the "reverence" of having just buried all of the other bodies.
Teresa wrote: "what the hell did you guys make of Cash being stuck in air ducts for 8 plus hours??? I could only think WTF???"
I was shocked when the 8 hours was mentioned. Up to that point, I had no idea her journey was taking that long.
Hey I'm catching up with you guys! We're early on the thread, but this book is so easy to read it's going down smoothly. Not at all like that damn Kraken!I took out Hunger and Greed last night. I was curious what you guys thought of the zombies who were 'dumpster-diving' into garbage cans in this section. Have you noticed curious things that the zeds are doing that don't make sense to you?
I know, Randy!!! I hadn't finished reading it as of the last thing I posted last nite...but now I have! And yeah...WOW- talk about a cliffhanger!!! I am very leary of Camp Fox. I just don't trust a leader that has NO IDEA that one of his most important guys is pillaging and plundering. Yes, Jase's friend is there, but I kinda equate it to, say, New Sydney in Tankbread...Tyler could tell those people they are 'in danger' as long as he wants to, just to keep them under his thumb (NOT that I see the zombie problem going away any time soon). Still, I am leary of militias in general; always have been. Those are just my thoughts, though. And I agree...I wanna see in Doyle's den...I bet its gross, like a Viking den!
Oh- and how about the coyote??? We mighta lost Betsy, but we still have a new little baby coyote named Mutt now! How cute is that???
Netanella -- The dumpster diving didn't bother me. For all we know, they were after rats that were in there.Teresa -- In some stories, normal pets become a source of danger as well, since they go feral and form packs. And since they have no predators, they become the top of the food chain.
I was hoping they would get Jase a new dog. But the coyote/wolf is definitely a twist on what I would have expected.
Some domesticated canines could be a big help on their farm compound. But feeding them might be a problem. Does the Home Depot store carry dog food? :)
Netanella wrote: "Hey I'm catching up with you guys! We're early on the thread, but this book is so easy to read it's going down smoothly. Not at all like that damn Kraken!I took out Hunger and Greed last night...."
No kidding! Kraken took me F-O-R-E-V-E-R!!!!
And yes, it is such a ridiculously easy and enrapturing read, I know I'm gonna finish WAY early. Its only going to get easier, too, since the last four rings have a ton of cantos rather than being just one super long chapter.
I think the 'scavenging' zoms serve to highlight the greed and hunger parts, but maybe that is me reading it the wrong way...
Also, I keep thinking back to Se7en or 7even or just 'Seven' or whatever that movie is called! Wrath is when Brad Pitt shoots Kevin Spacey...maybe Clutch's pulling of the trigger is 'wrath'? Not sure...all I know is that we are typically dead as zoms on Sundays at work, so I can imagine myself finishing this one today!
Would you guys pay tribute to Doyle's Dogs?
Pillaging the Home Depot store -- in a large store like that, I would think a good strategy would be to put something like a boom box in one corner of the store. Noise to attract the zombies *in* the store to that location, while scavenging the rest of the store.Something NOT near the entrance (or an exit), since you want to keep them away from those locations, and not want to attract more zombies into the store. I don't think it would be heard outside of the store.
It would also give you a good idea of how many zombies are actually in the store, since they should all be attracted to that location.
If you did put it near an exit where there are no zombies, you could also open that exit, temporarily, and draw them out of the store, and close up the exit again.
On future trips, they'll have to make sure their bags include some rappelling gear, so they can get down from the roof of a building more easily.
Randy wrote: "Netanella -- The dumpster diving didn't bother me. For all we know, they were after rats that were in there.Teresa -- In some stories, normal pets become a source of danger as well, since they go..."
I know!!! I felt so bad they killed the momma...and in most zombie books I've read, animals usually aren't in danger. I, too, was hoping for a new pet; a coyote was better than I was hoping for. By the by, some people in my 'neck of the woods' call coyotes "kai-oats" instead of "Kai-o-tees." Is that just here? They pay you $25 for each coyote you bring into the game warden; helps keep them out of people's chickens and off their cats and dogs...
Also, what did you all thing of Cash's mention that insects went quiet when a zed was near? Pretty good warning system, no?
Teresa wrote: "Would you guys pay tribute to Doyle's Dogs?"I think you have an issue either way.
If you do pay a tribute, they'll continually ask for more, and think they own you and your place.
If you don't, you're on their list. Either as an annoyance, or something to wipe out.
In this case, probably kill Clutch and Jase, and enslave Cash.
The "dropping off zombies" seems to be a pretty poor way for Doyle's Dogs to deal with the problem. Maybe once, but not on a regular basis.
I'm surprised Clutch didn't just put down some type of spike strip, to puncture the tires. It would have been impossible for them to fix a flat tire, the way the tires are protected from the sides.
But it's the same issue The Walking Dead had between Woodbury and the Prison. Either the two live in peace (or ignore each other), or one or the other has to be destroyed.
Randy wrote: "Pillaging the Home Depot store -- in a large store like that, I would think a good strategy would be to put something like a boom box in one corner of the store. Noise to attract the zombies *in* t..."No doubt! They already have rappelling gear on the house; you'd thing rope would be in their bug-out bags! And about the noise thing...that was one thing that puzzled me...usually a 'sneak' approach isn't the way to go, because, well, because of what the hell happened here!!! It just seemed weird to me...
And when Madsen took them across the bridge, I pictured Charon, boating them across the river Styx into the REAL nasty parts of hell. I have a feeling this story is going to get gruesome, and fast!
Randy wrote: "Teresa wrote: "Would you guys pay tribute to Doyle's Dogs?"I think you have an issue either way.
If you do pay a tribute, they'll continually ask for more, and think they own you and your place...."
Good idea about the spike strip...I'd have never thought of it! And I think everything would be fine if Doyle's Dogs could be eliminated! I DO think Madsen has the people's best interest in mind, but he can't see thevforest for the trees. He really thinks Doyle is a 'good guy.' I just wonder how many people Doyle has slaughtered and raped out there before 'hand choosing' his 87 survivors? And, truth be told, I had wondered why Clutch, being a 'good soldier' didn't report for duty like he was supposed to in the very beginning. I guess its his inherent dis-trust of the militias and the people he knows as neighbors. He'd have a better idea how these folks would act, after all...and, quite frankly, they're acting like blinded idiots in my opinion!
Teresa wrote: "Also, what did you all thing of Cash's mention that insects went quiet when a zed was near? Pretty good warning system, no?"I missed that...
I've heard both of your pronunciations for Coyotes.
A pronunciation-related video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dd7Fix...
Teresa wrote: "And when Madsen took them across the bridge..."Huh? Madsen? Bridge? Reading ahead, are we? :)
Teresa wrote: "And, truth be told, I had wondered why Clutch, being a 'good soldier' didn't report for duty like he was supposed to in the very beginning."He did say he didn't get that "memo". How would they have contacted him?
Randy wrote: "Teresa wrote: "And when Madsen took them across the bridge..."Huh? Madsen? Bridge? Reading ahead, are we? :)"
I don't think so...page 225! Madsen is the captain. Tyler is the gunner. "Tyler made a couple calls on his radio. Every few minutes, the gunner fired, and a zed fell. When we crossed Fox river [even kinda sounds like 'Styx'], zeds floated I the water. Some lay on the mud banks. All dead."
We WERE supposed to read to "Arrogance," correct?
Randy wrote: "Teresa wrote: "And, truth be told, I had wondered why Clutch, being a 'good soldier' didn't report for duty like he was supposed to in the very beginning."
He did say he didn't get that "memo". Ho..."
I thought they heard it in the car together? Way back maybe in limbo? I may be wrong...I know I 'read' the broadcast, but I don't know if he heard it.
Randy wrote: "Teresa wrote: "Would you guys pay tribute to Doyle's Dogs?"I think you have an issue either way.
If you do pay a tribute, they'll continually ask for more, and think they own you and your place...."
I agree here - you either have to make a stand, or you're in it for life. Paying bribes is not a one time thing. Clutch was right to do this.
Randy wrote: "Teresa wrote: "A pronunciation-related video:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dd7Fix... ..."
HEHE!!! Thanks for the early morning laugh! 'Insubordinate & churlish!' That's me!!! LOL
Teresa wrote: "Madsen is the captain. Tyler is the gunner."It's Captain Tyler. Other members of his crew were Eddy (Jase's friend), Tack and Griz (gunners), and Nick (driver).
When I search the book, I find no mention of Madsen.
Netanella wrote: "Randy wrote: "Teresa wrote: "Would you guys pay tribute to Doyle's Dogs?"I think you have an issue either way.
If you do pay a tribute, they'll continually ask for more, and think they own you a..."
I agree....I'd rather stay OUT of the militia, and with Clutch. That's just me, though! Just like Randy brought up The Governor from TWD, the militia and Doyle's dogs seem power hungry. They've cleared large sections, but still stay tightly clustered together. Why not start spreading out? I bet they are controlled through fear (the people 'protected' by the militia, I mean). The whole 'Come to us, we'll protect you.' leaves an all around bad taste in my mouth. No thank you!!!
Power-vacuum, and crap steps into the void. Happens the world over, unfortunately.This section is very, very like The Governor in "The Walking Dead," particularly dropping off the zombies to 'soften up' the enemy.
Randy wrote: "Teresa wrote: "Madsen is the captain. Tyler is the gunner."It's Captain Tyler. Other members of his crew were Eddy (Jase's friend), Tack and Griz (gunners), and Nick (driver).
When I search the ..."
I'm sorry, Randy...still groggy, I guess. Page 204: "Masden was attractive and well built, with tan skin and blond hair. Fatigues fit him nicely. The last time I'd seen him, it had been in Fox Hills, and he'd been behind the Humvee's .30 cal."
Remember, after she FINALLY got out of the air duct and escaped in the principal's car, and she got chased by a Humvee for a few? THAT was Masden. (Sorry, I thought it was MADSEN, not MASDEN...my bad!)
So its TYLER MASDEN, Captain, then. Sorry for the confusion! Too early (for me, at least!). Which, speaking of, I gotta go get ready for work. I'll pop back on after I get dressed and check for updates! ;-)
On page 137, it says 'We'd run out of ammo clearing the zeds below and who knows how many more that would bring.' Meaning IF they chose to shoot they would (we would = we'd) run out of ammo. So they chose NOT to start mowing the zoms down with firepower. Not until it was crisis situation after Jase fell. It's 'WE WOULD' not 'WE HAD.' I can see where the confusion on that one would come from...
I just want to say real quick that 'we'd' is both a conjunction for we would AND we had...it's hard to tell which is which unless you are paying attention to context. Context reveals all! ;-)
Teresa wrote: "On page 137, it says 'We'd run out of ammo clearing the zeds below and who knows how many more that would bring.'"Hmmm. When I read it in the Cloud (and on my PaperWhite), it says:
"We’d use up all our ammo to clear out the herd below. And who knew how many more the noise would draw out."
"We had..." is not an option in that sentence.
Can you go to "Manage Your Kindle" and see if there is an update available for your copy of the eBook?
I bought mine on Oct 29th, but the web page for the book says the publication date is Nov 10th. Hmmm.
I wonder if the author is re-uploading without notifying Amazon (and then us) of updates?
Tammy K. wrote: "I just checked my edition it states August 2013 as it's release date on the books info right after the cover"Does "Manage Your Kindle" show any updates available?
Tammy K. wrote: "I just checked my edition it states August 2013 as it's release date on the books info right after the cover"Hmmm. My Cloud Reader copy also says it an August 2013 edition. But you guys obviously have a different edition of the book.
No, I think they are the same...I kinda paraphrased the quote, since the only important part was the 'We'd run out of ammo...' part. Mine says the exact same thing yours does, Randy. Tammy, how exactly is that sentence phrased in yours? Is that even what you meant in that comment 'On page 137 they have no ammo On page 144 clutch has ammo'? That's the only thing I saw about ammo On page 137, and Randy is right...with the context and careful reading, you can't mistake that for 'we had.'
I do think we have different editions, as I'm not noticing the grammatical errors that Tammy is finding. Editing flaws bother the you-know-what out of me, and I'll notice even a split infinitive, which happens all the time these days. Errors tend to jar me out of the world the author creates, like an unannounced speed hump in a suburb.
According to the author, we all should have the same edition. I messaged her and got this response:To answer your question, there are no updates to the edition. The only update to the novel was in early August when there were some bugs in the original release. On November 10, some metadata was changed in the back-end code of the book for Amazon and Google searches (not sure why Amazon posts an updated release date when metadata changes).
So if we all have the August 2013 edition, the text SHOULD be the same.
I'm glad Teresa turned out to be paraphrasing instead of quoting. *whew*
Ah, well ... (that's a hole in the ground!).
On to part 3. I'm chomping at the bit.
Tammy K. wrote: "I've posted My thoughts about reading section 3.I have to say that this group reading experience has been ... Aggressive?...."
I wouldn't say THAT...I'd say you aggressively hated the book from the very beginning, and neither hell, high water, nor the appearance of Virgil or Dante themselves could change your view on THAT one...sorry if I made you feel uncomfortable. I've been REALLY enjoying not only the book, but the discussion as well. I'm sorry you didn't/aren't enjoying this buddy read as much as I am...
Tammy K. wrote: "Well it's good that they have bullets eh?
Its bad that a single comment creates a horde frenzy.
Thank each of you for your labored attempts at clearing that up!"
It wasn't labored, it was just an attempt by your fellow readers to make sure we were all on the same page...didn't mean to frenziedly horde you! But I also didn't want us all reading different versions...
Randy wrote: "I'm glad Teresa turned out to be paraphrasing instead of quoting. *whew*..."
I do that WAY too often...but if I'm at work, or actually on my Kindle, I can't look at the book AND have Goodreads open at the same time! Shoulda said so in the first place ! Sorry!
Teresa wrote: "I've been REALLY enjoying not only the book, but the discussion as well. I'm sorry you didn't/aren't enjoying this buddy read as much as I am..."Ditto on all three.
Can I get into this group hug, too? :) I'm enjoying the book and the discussion (and I still don't like my zombies dumpster-diving, but that's just me!)I've slowed down the reading pace to stay with the proposed timeframes, but it seems we've all moved ahead... can we agree to "kick it up a notch," as Emeril would say?
Here's something I just found on the author's page:How 100 Days in Deadland compares to Dante Alighieri’s “Inferno”
Loosely based on Dante’s "Inferno," 100 Days in Deadland covers the journey of Cash and her guide, Clutch, through zombie apocalypse hell. At the macro level, both the novel and epic poem is the story is a study of the cause and effect of the human condition and a persevering theme of hope. However, where the Divine Comedy is ultimately a political entreaty, 100 Days in Deadland is source of entertainment. Just as the “Inferno” is only the first part of a three-part journey, 100 Days in Deadland will bring you through the circles to hell and up to the gates of Purgatory.
Cash, like Dante had in the “Inferno”, begins the story with a complete reliance on her guide and ever so slowly begins to accept accountability for her own life (and sins). As Dante and Virgil did in the “Inferno”, Cash and Clutch discover the three types of sinful beasts: the self-indulgent (zombies), the violent (survivors), and the malicious (Doyle).
While the novel stands on its own, it also contains “Easter eggs” to stir echoes of “Inferno” for Divine Comedy fans. Below are 125 similarities between the novel and the classic poem at the micro level (Note: This is not a comprehensive list).
1st Circle: Limbo
Chapter 1
1. The story begins on Thursday before Good Friday.
2. Mia (Cash) represents Dante. The story also begins with Mia experiencing a crisis, where she faces a terrifying “she-wolf” (zombie), symbolizing consummate greed.
3. As her world crumbles around her, Cash suffers confusion about what’s happening.
4. When Cash and co-worker Alan hit the roadblock, they are surrounded by the first of the three proverbial beasts: the self-indulgent (zombies).
Chapter 2
5. Slightly later than in the “Inferno”, Clutch (i.e. Virgil) makes an appearance. And, like Virgil, he demands that Cash does what he says or else she must find her way alone.
6. When Cash joins up with Clutch, her fears are somewhat dampened believing herself in good hands.
7. Clutch saves Cash by killing the last zombie in their vicinity (Alan) in a manner reminiscent of Virgil splitting the monster’s face in half: Clutch shoots Alan in the face.
8. When Clutch allows Cash to stay with him, it is the first sign of finding faith in each other.
9. As the sun lowers in the sky, Cash begins to girder herself against the approaching night.
Chapter 3
1. Clutch’s truck represents Charon, Cash and Clutch’s transport through Limbo.
2. Rather than seeing a blatant sign like Dante had seen in the “Inferno”, Cash thinks to herself, “Abandon all hope all ye who enter here” as they approach Clutch’s farm, which is secluded and far from what she knows.
3. Clutch’s farm is in a valley and surrounded by woods. His house, surrounded by a large green yard, represents the castle holding the wise. In a slight translation, his house is full of food, gear, and books.
4. A tabby cat in the yard watching Cash and Clutch arrive represents the creatures that watched Dante arrive.
How 100 Days in Deadland compares to Dante’s “Inferno” 2
Chapter 4
5. Cash awakens to the sound of a “thunderous blast”: a shotgun blast rather than a thunderclap.
6. As Cash and Clutch enter Fox Hills, they come across friends of Clutch’s who are also farmers (representing fellow poets).
7. When they’ve had their fill, Cash and Clutch leave the pharmacy so that they can continue their journey. For Cash, a sense of foreboding kicks in.
2nd Circle: Lust
Chapter 5
8. Here, Cash and Clutch discover the second of the three proverbial beasts: violent survivors.
9. Like Dante, this is the first time Cash begins to acknowledge her own accountability. Up until this point, she’s completely reliant on her guide (as she is through much of 100 Days in Deadland).
10. Violent winds hit when the lustful are near, and storms wreak this chapter.
11. The rapists represent the darkest side of the lustful, being both licentious and unrestrained.
12. The victim woman’s lips are pale like Cleopatra’s, bringing Cash to kill her first uninfected human. Cash weeps at the tragic unfairness of it all.
13. The corn bin where the victim lies represents the carnal tower, a witness to the sins that took place there.
3rd Circle: Hunger
Chapter 6
14. Nasty storms (hail, winds, mud, cold rain) continue to batter Cash and Clutch throughout the chapter.
15. The school represents those with “insatiable hunger.”
16. A schoolgirl with "pigtails” is a tiny hint at the "hogs" prevalent in the canto.
17. The school cafeteria is full of corpses covered in maggots, similar to the worms in the canto.
18. Cash struggles in the air ducts, not knowing which direction to go.
19. In the parking lot outside the school, Cash shoots a trio of zombies representing Cerberus.
20. Together, Cash and Clutch will journey into the next circle.
4th Circle: Greed
Chapter 7
21. The Fox River is flooded, the waters wild and muddy, representing a dark, boiling fountain. The ground had given way into the river (representing threatening cliffs) and mud. Smeared zombies are stuck in the mud, including a naked zombie/sinner.
22. At the Pierson farm, Cash sees money left on table, signifying that money can’t buy peace.
23. Also at the farm, Cash and Clutch scare off a dog, representing the wolf.
24. While on a looting run, they run into the Dogs—men with shaved heads and carrying heavy stuff off the back of Clutch’s truck(symbolizing great stones on their chests and pushing boulders). They yell out insults when Clutch and Cash approach. Cash & Clutch are forced to leave after the Dogs take some of their property.
25. Here, Cash and Clutch learn of the third of the three proverbial beasts: the malicious Doyle (who portrays Satan).
This goes to the end of this section...I'll post the others where they belong...
Sorry!!! Forgot 'WRATH'5th Circle: Wrath
Chapter 8
26. The zombies stuck in the Fox River (i.e. the River Styx) mud are waving their arms as they drown eternally.
27. Cash and Clutch rescue Mutt (i.e. Virgil is sent to the lowest circle of Hell to bring back a spirit), which actually takes place in canto 9.
28. On their drive, they pass a zombie still in his tractor in the middle of the marshland, representing the tiny vessel with single pilot.
29. Doyle’s Iowa Surplus represents the City of Dis (DIS: Doyle’s Iowa Surplus), which is guarded by Doyle’s Dogs (fallen angels). DIS holds deepest secrets and worst violent and treacherous sinners. It is surrounded by prairie/marshland. Smoke from a silo (i.e. the tower) represents the giant flaming demon. Within Dis are active (rather than passive) sinners. Flames burn throughout Dis, and red is a common color.
30. Cash and Clutch are unable to enter Dis and are threatened by four raiders (representing the three furies & Medusa).
31. The sinners here are eternally fixed in the state they have chosen (i.e. the Dogs have chosen their path and will be punished).
Netanella wrote: "Can I get into this group hug, too? :) I'm enjoying the book and the discussion (and I still don't like my zombies dumpster-diving, but that's just me!)I've slowed down the reading pace to stay..."
Kick it up a notch, baby!!! Tammy already finished...not sure how far Randy is; I'm halfway through chunk 3, and expect to be done tomorrow or Wednesday. So yeah, let's aim to conclude this one by Friday. You cool with that, Randy? Netanella? (No, I'm not leaving you out, Tammy...you're already done! So you don't need a 'due date' ;-) )
Wow! I missed a lot, but I am gonna give myself a pat on the back for catching a good deal of them (like the river Fox one! I even said it sounded like 'Styx'). YAY! We're figuring them out, and I like reading the correlations...it's helping me better remember the original!
Tammy K. wrote: "One last comment and I am done. I will not be trashed anymore Teresa!"What??? I'm not trashing you! Come on!!! We have different opinions; big deal! It's what books reads are for- differing opinions! Why aren't you yelling at Randy for 'dittoing' my comment, or Netanella for liking the book, too???? I thought this list would be interesting to the others, and to help our understanding, but I'll take it down if any one else objects to it. And since we're being nasty to each other now (not by MY choice!), I'm gonna have to call you out on your claim of reading them side by side; if you had, you'd have caught all the similarities, right?
WAY too much drama for me tonite...I'm sorry, guys...I guess I just FUCK EVERYTHING UP!!!! I THOUGHT the list was interesting; I THOUGHT it was okay to enjoy the book; I THOUGHT diversity was welcome...I THOUGHT wrong! I'm almost ready to just quit with this read. Tammy wouldn't mind, I'm taking it. Netanella, Randy, am I driving you to the point where you want to yank your hair out? Do you want me to read the rest alone? Just say the words, and I'll scamper off into the darkness with my Kindle and read solo. I am SORRY if ANYONE thinks I'm trashing them! I don't ever try and trash ANYONE. This sucks...that's about all I can say for now.Great buddy read with a great book and (I thought) great discussion...poof! Gone in a flash with all the drama!
Tammy, I only offered the 'list' and my opinions on your 'typos' as responses. Just like you offered passages and points from Desolation that were hazy. Did I accuse you of attacking me for telling me repeatedly that there were differences between witches and necromancers? NO!!! (Which, for the recird, ?I KNEW there was a difference, and what it was, it just WASN'T defined well in that book. There was NO explanation of a witch in that book!) Anyway, I'm sorry that you seem to be happy when reading a book you like and a raving banshee when reading a book you don't. I think your problem is you cannot handle constructive criticism OR people who love books you don't like. I'm the one who advised you to file DNF. I wish you had. Then this drama wouldn't have ruined the whole buddy read. I'm sure Randy and Netanella probably won't feel comfortable now. Which sucks. Bad.
Netanella wrote: "I've slowed down the reading pace to stay with the proposed timeframes, but it seems we've all moved ahead... can we agree to "kick it up a notch," as Emeril would say? "I've been reading other Kindle books, shorter items so that I don't get ahead on this one.
But it is reducing the number of items on my Kindle (I try to keep it to a few pages of items, but have nine right now). :)
Teresa wrote: "This goes to the end of this section...I'll post the others where they belong..."Good stuff! Thanks.
Tammy K. wrote: "If this book was told correctly, there should be no guessing, no stretching, no wild leaps into the imagination."Sorry, Tammy, but I like it very much just the way it is. And, not having read Dante's Inferno, I have no expectations there. But I did find the author's list very interesting.
But you and I rarely agree on the books we've read. Even when we do agree on a rating, it's for completely different reasons. :)
Teresa wrote: "I only offered the 'list'"Please continue with the pertinent items on the other two topics. I found the list very interesting.
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This buddy read has been broken up into four parts:
Part 1: Beginning, LIMBO, & LUST (113 pgs).
Part 2: HUNGER, GREED, & WRATH (116 pgs).
Part 3: ARROGANCE & VIOLENCE (86 pgs).
Part 4: MALICE & BETRAYAL, plus the afterword and end material (121 pgs)
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Part 1: Starting on November 16th.
Part 2: Starting on November 19th.
Part 3: Starting on November 22nd.
Part 4: Starting on November 25th.
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