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message 702: by Emily (last edited Jan 13, 2019 08:38AM) (new)

Emily | 17614 comments #706 it looks like volumes of a set of books on ancient civilizations, and not really a series in my opinion.


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Olivia (livka) | 7926 comments https://www.goodreads.com/series/234226

Translated title: 'Short stories and pictures of Ahmed Khaled Tawfiq'
Translated description: 'Short stories and pictures written by Dr. Ahmed Khaled Tawfiq, published in sites such as: Bass and light and lighting, and painted and photographed by artists such as: Fawaz, Tariq Azzam, Ashraf Hamdi and Mohammed Abdullah ...'

In my opinion not only this is not a series, but it is doubtful if any of the entries on the list should be considered a published book.


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Olivia (livka) | 7926 comments https://www.goodreads.com/series/157249
'The Complete Collection of Dostoyevsky Literary Works'

Listopia?


message 705: by Halvor (Raknes) (new)

Halvor (Raknes) | 4772 comments https://www.goodreads.com/series/5445...

Looks like an imprint to me.


message 706: by Camilla (new)

Camilla | 340 comments Is this a series according to GR definition?
https://www.goodreads.com/series/2293...


message 707: by Chris (new)

Chris Millington | 202 comments Don't think this is a series: https://www.goodreads.com/series/2302...

It's a collection of anthologies by various crime writers published by the British Library as part of a collection of reprinted works by "classic" crime writers - though the anthologies are all edited by the same person.


message 708: by Emily (last edited Jan 13, 2019 08:42AM) (new)

Emily | 17614 comments Will someone else please verify that this is not a series, and delete this National Geographic Traveler book set:
https://www.goodreads.com/series/2124...



message 709: by Liz V. (new)

Liz V. (wwwgoodreadscomlizv) | 43749 comments When Saigon Surrendered: A Kentucky Mystery seems to be the first in a series based on The Cumberland Killers and differently formatted The Cumberland Killers: A Kentucky Mystery.


message 710: by Coucher de soleil (last edited Jan 09, 2019 02:51PM) (new)

Coucher de soleil (coucherdesoleil) | 3 comments I believe this 'series' should be amended: the two books are 'In Fury Born' and 'Path of the Fury', by David Weber. (Series mention with both books is here: https://www.goodreads.com/series/1069...)

'Path of the Fury' is listed as book 2, following 'In Fury Born'. However, as is stated in wikipedia (I read these books so I can attest to this as well), "Path of the Fury and the later re-issuance with new material and a full prequel novel as the omnibus In Fury Born are stand-alone science fiction novels by American writer David Weber, covering the life and times of female protagonist Alicia DeVries". (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Path_of...)

Would it be possible to amend this 'series', as it isn't one (assuming I have read the definition of series correctly!). Thanks! :-)


message 711: by Asteropê (last edited Jan 09, 2019 05:33PM) (new)

Asteropê (21tauri) | 151 comments EDIT: Or are you asking for the numbering of the books to be changed? So Path of the Fury is listed as #1 as it occurs before the events of Fury Born?

EDIT2: Okay, so I see on the one blurb of one: "In Fury Born is a greatly expanded new version of David Weber's popular novel Path of the Fury,"

I don't know how that should be handled. I would assume if the books are different enough to not have their editions merged, then listing them in such a way makes the most sense? Maybe remove the numbering and just have the grouped there?

I'll let someone else look into it and figure that out.

LAST EDIT:
There would need to be a series listing for the foreign language editions still though, as it appears to split one book into two parts:

Die Kriegerin - listed as 1, part 1
Der Zorn der Gerechten - 1, part 2

Like the foreign language editions of Memoirs of Cleopatra that split the book into 3 parts: https://www.goodreads.com/series/2090...
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Sounds like a series to me, from the quote you shared...
"covering the life and times of female protagonist Alicia DeVries"

From the Librarian Manual: "To be a series, books should have characters and/or universes in common."

Same world/universe
Same characters
= a series

Books can be stand-alone in their plot, but still be a series ;-) Most cozy mysteries, for example, are stand-alone in that the mystery in each books is finished by the end of said book, but they are still a series, because they have characters, (fictional) towns and other things in common.


message 712: by Coucher de soleil (last edited Jan 10, 2019 01:02PM) (new)

Coucher de soleil (coucherdesoleil) | 3 comments Asteropê wrote: "EDIT: Or are you asking for the numbering of the books to be changed? So Path of the Fury is listed as #1 as it occurs before the events of Fury Born?

EDIT2: Okay, so I see on the one blurb of on..."


Yes, the reason I was asking is that one book (In Fury Born) contains the entirety of the other, though that content was edited and somewhat modified. Additional content was added to In Fury Born as well.

...Hopefully that makes things a bit clearer -basically 'In Fury Born' is actually a modified and extended version (i.e. with a new prequel novel added) of the previous novel, 'Path of the Fury'.

I definitely agree they aren't just different editions of the same book though, so I don't have any suggestions, I'm afraid. :)


message 713: by BookLovingLady (deceased Jan. 25, 2023...) (last edited Jan 13, 2019 07:41AM) (new)

BookLovingLady (deceased Jan. 25, 2023...) | 60 comments https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/1... is NOT part of the series mentioned. Can someone take care of this, please? I have my doubts if the original Uncle Tom's Cabin, which is also in my possession, is part of the series mentioned, by the way...


message 714: by Emily (last edited Jan 13, 2019 08:28AM) (new)

Emily | 17614 comments #706 deleted - imprint
#710 deleted - imprint
#712 deleted - you're right, as a common theme is not enough to warrant a series.
#718 deleted - It was a list of books about the Civil War that someone made into a series against policy. Thanks for posting.


message 715: by Scott (new)

Scott | 9058 comments Some of these books are related to others, but I don't think they are all related to each other:

https://www.goodreads.com/series/2108...


message 716: by Carol She's So Novel꧁꧂ (last edited Feb 05, 2019 01:53PM) (new)

Carol She's So Novel꧁꧂  | 2320 comments This looks to be an imprint to me

https://www.goodreads.com/series/1778...

Since there are 115 titles I wanted to double check. Will request someone make a list if other librarians agree.

Edit: requested for someone to make a list in the appropriate thread in the Looking for a Project folder.

2nd edit; No interest in creating a list so have deleted.


Carol She's So Novel꧁꧂  | 2320 comments Scott wrote: "Some of these books are related to others, but I don't think they are all related to each other:

https://www.goodreads.com/series/2108..."


I'm sure this isn't a series. There was a discussion in this group couple of years ago when someone turned a classic author's Christmas books into a series & Rivka ruled it wasn't a series.


message 718: by Scott (new)

Scott | 9058 comments Ok.


message 719: by Emily (new)

Emily | 17614 comments I agree that #719 and #720 are not a series.


message 720: by Camilla (new)

Camilla | 340 comments Could somebody more experienced in series take a look at my post #710?


message 721: by Carol She's So Novel꧁꧂ (last edited Jan 29, 2019 06:43PM) (new)

Carol She's So Novel꧁꧂  | 2320 comments Camilla wrote: "Could somebody more experienced in series take a look at my post #710?"

Hi Camilla

Probably someone deleted a post, so the numbering is out of whack. That is probably how your question was skipped.

These are 5 anthologies with the same lead author. They have a fantasy theme.

From the manual

Imprints and other unrelated collections of works (usually by multiple authors) are not series. They can be grouped with a Listopia list, or the collection/imprint information can be listed in the edition field, but they should not be grouped into a series, or listed on a book's title line.


So, IMO not a series. :)


message 722: by Peter (new)

Peter (jimmyshelter) | 5 comments Warning: rant alert.

In a world where storing data is pretty cheap, it feels very arbitrary to delete series just because they don't adhere to some strict definition.

I (and quite a number of other people) put quite some time in editing goodreads series and books and then without any warning POOF gone all the work.

If a Listopia list would be a good alternative I could understand it, but for literary magazines . where you just want to be able to see all books in order and see which one you've already read and which ones not, this is not a good alternative.

I've been adding editions of Beneath Ceaseless Skies to their list for years now (over 250+ issues now) and now suddenly the list is gone.

I used to love GoodReads, but it has gone the way of wikipedia, where rules and bureaucracy seems more important than the people who put in unpaid time to help edit the site.


message 723: by Emily (last edited Feb 03, 2019 07:38AM) (new)

Emily | 17614 comments Peter wrote: "Warning: rant alert."

You should post in the Feedback group if you would like staff to see your thoughts.
https://www.goodreads.com/group/show/...


message 724: by Scott (new)

Scott | 9058 comments Corinne wrote: "Please delete this against policy series:
https://www.goodreads.com/series/1065...

I re-created as a list:
https://www.goodreads.com/list/show/1......"


Done


message 725: by Emily (new)

Emily | 17614 comments https://www.goodreads.com/series/1980...
I believe this is more of a literary magazine of sorts.


message 726: by Emily (new)

Emily | 17614 comments https://www.goodreads.com/series/4181...
I don't think these have anything in common except they are poetry


Carol She's So Novel꧁꧂  | 2320 comments Emily wrote: "https://www.goodreads.com/series/4181...
I don't think these have anything in common except they are poetry"


Hi Emily I'm not good with magazines, but those poetry chapbooks are an imprint not a series. :)


message 728: by Emily (new)

Emily | 17614 comments Thank you Carol!


Carol She's So Novel꧁꧂  | 2320 comments Emily wrote: "Thank you Carol!"

Your welcome!

Is this a series?https://www.goodreads.com/series/2096...

If it is, should I remove the numbering? The books themselves say they are standalones that can be read in any order.


message 730: by Olivia (new)

Olivia (livka) | 7926 comments Carol She's So Novel꧁꧂ wrote: "Is this a series?https://www.goodreads.com/series/2096...

If it is, should I remove the numbering? The books themselves say they are st..."


It's not a series. I have it on my to-do list for ages now...
Please see: https://www.goodreads.com/topic/show/...


Carol She's So Novel꧁꧂  | 2320 comments Olivia wrote: "
It's not a ..."


Thanks Olivia - I'll leave it with you. :)


message 732: by Scott (new)

Scott | 9058 comments This sounds more like a thematic grouping than a series by GR definition:
https://www.goodreads.com/series/6125...
Has anyone read these or knows more?


message 733: by Emily (last edited Mar 06, 2019 07:59AM) (new)

Emily | 17614 comments Scott wrote: "This sounds more like a thematic grouping than a series."
I agree. I'm a public librarian and though prolific, she does not have any real series that I know of. I think it is just a promotional way to sell some of her older books.


message 734: by Scott (new)

Scott | 9058 comments Ok, thanks.


message 738: by Asteropê (new)

Asteropê (21tauri) | 151 comments Lieke wrote: "https://www.goodreads.com/series/2234..."

From my understanding of the "Flight 12" series listed there is, all the characters are on board the same flight (Flight 12) -- so they share the same universe in that sense. Each of the books features a character from another series.

Some of the blurbs state:
"May 12 New York (AP): A Skyway Airlines flight carrying 375 passengers and 13 crew bound for Rome’s Fiumicino airport from New York’s JFK International Airport has disappeared off the radar overnight according to airline spokespersons. Skyway Flight 12 had left New York at 12:00 midnight Monday evening and was said to be operating normally and in good weather conditions. According to sources on the ground, the plane, a Boeing 767, was piloted by an experienced flight crew who issued no alarm of any kind prior to vanishing somewhere over the Atlantic ocean east of Newfoundland. The 767 is
said to be a reliable twin engine carrier that’s been in service since 1982 with an excellent safety record. While a catastrophic mechanical failure is presently being investigated, says an FAA spokesman, a criminal event is not being ruled out. Both sea and air rescue crews have been dispatched from the US, Canada, Newfoundland, and Ireland. This is a developing story.
So, thriller fans, it’s time.
Fasten your safety belts. Return your seat backs and tray tables to their full upright and locked position. Review the safety information card in your seatback pocket once more before take off.
Ready? Here we go! Enjoy the ride on each of the 12 books in the exciting new series where Flight 12 Begins."

"Read all 12 of the Flight 12 Project books and then help The Twelve create the final epilogue!"

Which to me implies there is some plot theme that runs though them - that they are not just totally separate.


message 739: by Lieke (new)

Lieke | 4925 comments #744 There is a separate series for the flight 12 books, the series I linked to is the Deadly Dozen.


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lethe | 16359 comments World of Art

I don't think this qualifies as a series?

https://www.goodreads.com/series/9559...


message 741: by Camilla (new)

Camilla | 340 comments This doesn't look like a series according to GR definition?
https://www.goodreads.com/series/2419...


message 742: by lethe (new)

lethe | 16359 comments Camilla wrote: "This doesn't look like a series according to GR definition?
https://www.goodreads.com/series/2419..."


Indeed it isn't. Zapped.


message 743: by Emily (new)

Emily | 17614 comments #741 https://www.goodreads.com/series/260106 If you need to ask whether a series should be created, it would be easier to make a new thread as it would get more attention

#742 These are box sets of various books that include the same characters. However, they are not primary works so I took away that designation.

#743-745 I think someone thought they might be box sets of the Flight 12 books and made a separate series? I don't know. Regardless, they were all completely different books and so I deleted that series.

#746 Zapped


message 744: by Carol She's So Novel꧁꧂ (last edited Apr 17, 2019 01:45PM) (new)

Carol She's So Novel꧁꧂  | 2320 comments I don't think this is a series. No common characters or settings.

https://www.goodreads.com/series/1305...

Book descriptions in some cases need tidying but I wanted to leave until I've had an answer, since they describe some of the books as able to be read as standalones.


message 745: by Asteropê (last edited Apr 17, 2019 01:53PM) (new)

Asteropê (21tauri) | 151 comments I am not sure about that specific series, but I do just want to point out that "stand-alone" doesn't mean a book can't and isn't part of a series.

Many books are stand-alone, but are part of series. Many romances are considered stand-alone because each book features 1 couple's story arc. And so in that way, can be read out of order or alone. But I have read many books described as stand-alone that are in fact part of a larger arc or have bleed through with plot and characters of other books of the series.

I recently read a Harlequin Presents romance (which are generally considered stand-alone, plot wise) that featured a couple. The next book in the series was about another different couple, but the hero was the brother to the hero in the first book (and brothers interacted in both books). They could be read alone or out of order, but are related and share a world/characters.

I guess my point is, I tend to be careful because so many books don't have cliffhangers and complete/resolve the book's plot in that book, but are still part of an over all series. In that way, stand-alone shouldn't be used as the main factor on whether a book is part of a series or not.

Not sure about shared world/characters for the Songbird series mentioned above, as I haven't read them. Have you?
It is hard to tell by reading blurbs alone....


Carol She's So Novel꧁꧂  | 2320 comments Asteropê wrote: "I am not sure about that specific series, but I do just want to point out that "stand-alone" doesn't mean a book can't and isn't part of a series.

Many books are stand-alone, but are part of seri..."


Thanks Asteropê

I use books being described as standalones as just one of the tools in determining if a book is a series, so I wouldn't delete the series if that was the only reason. :)


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Chantal wrote: "I believe this is a serie, if so can you make one?

https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/4...
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/4...
https://www.goodreads.com/bo..."


This is a series (same characters and world). It is created and titles are adjusted.


message 749: by Halvor (Raknes) (new)

Halvor (Raknes) | 4772 comments Surely this isn't a series by GR standards? I cannot see how the Tarzan books and science fiction go together. There certainly is not uniform consistency in the cast of characters.

https://www.goodreads.com/series/2133...


Carol She's So Novel꧁꧂  | 2320 comments Carol She's So Novel꧁꧂ wrote: "I don't think this is a series. No common characters or settings.

https://www.goodreads.com/series/1305...

Book descriptions in some cases need tidying but I wanted to leave until I've ha..."


Ok I've tidied up some of the descriptions (but left the ALL CAPS saying these books can all be read as standalones.

ALL THE SONGBIRD NOVELS CAN BE READ AS STAND ALONE BOOKS.

OTHER SONGBIRD NOVELS ALREADY PUBLISHED ARE:
Fever - Cole & Ella’s Story
Bulletproof - Morgan & Sean's Story
Everything - Jody & Leo's Story
Home - Rachel & Josh's Story
True Love - Nessa & Jimmy's Story
Troublemaker - Marcus & Kelly's Story
Rough Water - Justin & Sarah's Story
Geronimo - Harry & Jane's Story
Rather Be - Nixon & Charlie's Story

Plus the Chaos novellas…
Angel Eyes - Ralphie & Ronnie’s Story
Complicated - Flick & Fliss’s Story
Fine By Me - Jace & Jenna’s Story

I've removed the above from one of the descriptions. To me they look like they are maybe 3 novellas all connected to True Love. If not, shouldn't the Chaos novellas be also called Songbird?

There doesn't seem to be a link between the other novels at all. # nine doesn't have it's number in brackets. some of the in brackets have a comma, some don't.

But I'll leave for someone more expert with series to pick up.


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