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Patti (baconater) wrote: "Yeah, I'm shocking.I should be kinder and more gentle.
One day."
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Never were truer words spoken A.L. : 'It never ceases to amaze me how many people release a book on KDP and then expect to be the next bestseller.' I think its the instant 24/7 rolling culture we live in. Everything now
Andrew wrote: "I propose the following standard template for all book promotion:"I've written a tolerable book that my friends like, but I have no marketing budget. It is called [yourtitlehere]. You can buy it ..."
I like that too.
Well, I was about to spam/drive-by with news of my 'tolerable' new book...but this thread has scared me! I guess I'll try and be your friend instead. Hi, my name's Kara, I'm 5ft 4, live in London, 3 kids, 1 husband, got a load of junk in my house that I can't get rid of, I read, write, run and paint. Kara is actually my indie-pub pseudonym. I'm a well-paid childrens author in reality. Oh, and I'm the daughter of Gunter Grass' secret lover child (true). I blog: kara karnatzki.wordpress.com and I suck at baking. Love you.
Thomas wrote: "I won't be spamming my books here as my customers live in the USA.Another reason is I don't write trashy-erotic-romance, like 50 shades of whatsit's which seem to be the best selling paperbacks on..."
As a writer of erotic-romance, I've read this entire thread and I'm still trying to decide whether I'm insulted by the 'trashy' tag. Is he saying all ER are trashy, or just some of them?
Hello, btw. I write erotic rugby-themed romances published by Cariad/Accent Press. I'm also disabled. SUPPORT THE CRIPPLE! BUY MY BOOKS!!!
Yeah, even writing that as a joke makes me cringe.
Patti (baconater) wrote: "Perhaps you could explain what you feel constitutes a fly by post Rosemary?"Hello everyone,
I'm brand new on here and I'm very happy that I just came along at what I see as the right time. I'm an author on goodreads and I couldn't agree with Rosemary more. No one likes to be sold to. I think an author's work should speak for itself. I just added my newest release in the section that is provided on here for such promotions. This is a wonderful forum for author's to understand what works and does not. I think the apprecaition of constructive criticism was the most valuable thing that I learned in all of my writting classes.
That's true. I see no end of new authors on the forums who've had their book published a week and are moaning about the lack of sales. It's very hard to get noticed. Success, I think, is what you make it. From my own perspective I don't sell a lot - I'll not be able to give up work any time soon, but I do sell some every month, and I'm slowly building a following. I am being asked to write for anthologies and I've had some good reviews. That's more than I ever expected. I don't write for the money (fortunately), it keeps me sane, and I enjoy it. I have a story to tell and if other people like it, then great.
The most important thing for me - my mother died of cancer about 3 months after my first book came out. She got to see it in print, and held one in her hands and cried with pride. Then she told everyone - the nurses, the family, neighbours if they visited. That for me made it all worth it. To see the look in her eyes, despite everything.
That, for me, is success.
A.L.What you just posted is a wonderful story of its own. You just made me cry, because so many of us can relate to that. I just told my husband the other day that failure would have been never to have tried at all.
C.S. wrote: "A.L.What you just posted is a wonderful story of its own. You just made me cry, because so many of us can relate to that. I just told my husband the other day that failure would have been never t..."
I was trying to think of words to say what a touching story it was without somehow sounding as if I was merely complimenting his technique. As you've managed it nicely, I'll just say, 'Yeah, me to A.L., what she said' :-)
Patti (baconater) wrote: "I agree. Then authors can move onto the truly important job of being contributing members of the group."Is their work not contribution enough?
To adding value to the group?Sorry, no.
Writing good. Spamming bad.Me Tarzan, you Jane.
Will wrote: "Writing good. Spamming bad.Me Tarzan, you Jane."
You Cheeta.
Now go write ook.
Or the funky gibbon ....https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iAmx_...
Ye gods, but that seems so cringeworthy these days. The Bay City Rollers barely out of puberty and with hairless bare chests. And the Goodies in flares and budgie smuggler tight jeans.
I loved the Bay City Rollers.Then I reached puberty.
They are re-forming you know... *shudders*
Apparently they're calling themselves the bay city strollers now, on account of the frames ...
They toured Canada in 2013http://www.cbc.ca/m/news/arts/les-mck...
Weyhey.
I'd have gone if just to have an excuse to wear my lumber jacket.
G J (Gaff to my friends) wrote: "Apparently they're calling themselves the bay city strollers now, on account of the frames ..."Lol. Do they still wear tartan? I hated their silly short trousies, but I'm partial to a bit of tartan - my husband is a Scot.
A.L. wrote: "That's true. I see no end of new authors on the forums who've had their book published a week and are moaning about the lack of sales. It's very hard to get noticed. Success, I think, is what you..."
My condolences. My dad wanted to read my book - but I didn't finish it until after he died. I would have given anything for him to read it. I hope there is a heaven, and I hope they have books.
Books ARE heaven, I reckon.
How else could you get to live so many lives?In a good book, you completely lose yourself - and get to be someone else, and see how he or she thinks, lives, makes decisions...
That's why the brain scientists say there is no difference between being and reading. You are just as involved. More, maybe, as you get to skip the boring parts.
A.L. wrote: "It never ceases to amaze me how many people release a book on KDP and then expect to be the next bestseller."No. Being the next best-seller takes at least TWO months. Or so my ego tells me. It says I'm not patient enough. And I say, "Shut up and read."
Seriously, entitlement is not good for the character.
Andrew wrote: "To paraphrase that quintessential marketing genius, Al Capone: "You can get further with a kind word and an Amazon link than you can with an Amazon link alone."Don't treat groups as a database of..."
This is beautiful!
Hey there.. Is this forum only for UK Authors or are others welcome?
Nancy wrote: "Hey there.. Is this forum only for UK Authors or are others welcome?"Hi.
They have been very kind (I'm in the States).
Alicia
Jim wrote: "We even let Canadians in"Be nice or no maple syrup for you.
In space, no-one can hear you scream.On the internet, no-one can tell your nationality. As long as you avoid words like "honour" and "colour". Or you insist on wearing a gun. Or you understand the meaning of irony.
Or as Bette Midler used to say, you think that a good screw is a conscientious prison officer.
Everyone's welcome ;-)
Patti (baconater) wrote: "Jim wrote: "We even let Canadians in"Be nice or no maple syrup for you."
I have eaten maple syrup, when the kids were young we got a couple of bottles and they ate it poured over icecream. Mind you it might have been 'maple flavoured' syrup .
There again that was rather a long time go,
Prefer lemon and brown sugar on pancakes :-)
A maple syrup sauce is lovely with gammon. The saltiness of the meat, the sweetness of the sauce. Mmm.
It goes by many names. If you buy it ready cooked it's a ham. If you buy it uncooked, it is gammon. If it is still oinking, it's a pig.I blame the French. Nearly all the English words for farm animals come from the Anglo Saxon - cow, pig, sheep, etc. Nearly all the English words for meat come from Norman French - beef (boeuf), pork (porc), ham/gammon (jambon), mutton (mouton).
After they invaded us in 1066 (the home defeat we don't like talking about), the Anglo Saxons were the poor serfs tending the farm animals. The French aristos were the ones eating the meat.
Still coming to terms with this Goodreads thing.
fly you fool, leave now while you still can :-)Welcome aboard Catherine
Hi everyoneI'm a newbie currently editing my first book. I've got a few friends who have promoted their own books and a few of them have tried spamming and the like with poor results... and then they are surprised?
I'm no marketing expert but you wouldn't go up to someone in the street and yell 'Buy my book, it's really good!' because you would be taken for an idiot or, even worse, an Apprentice candidate. So why do people think the internet is any different?
My rule is don't do anything on the internet that you would not do in the real world which includes 'cold calling'. The internet is like anywhere else, you have to take your time, get to know people, build relationships. Not just run in and shout.
Like real life some internet relationships will be long and fruitful, others short and exciting. If short and exciting appeals to you, don't forget to delete your history :)
Hi All, I'd be interested in hearing from anyone who has experience of submitting to Kindle Scout and whether they got a contract with Kindle Press or not and if they did how did it all work out?
Plenty of our authors have sold lots of books due to their activity in our group.
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