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Which LIST book did you just finish?

Well now you've intrigued me, I may add Dostoyevsky further up the list on my TBR pile now.
Nocturnalux wrote: "Surely you did not think that Ulysses would not have been translated into Portuguese by now?..."
haha. I simply meant that I didn't know because I didn't bother to look it up. But thank you for letting me know that it has, indeed, been translated into Portuguese.
haha. I simply meant that I didn't know because I didn't bother to look it up. But thank you for letting me know that it has, indeed, been translated into Portuguese.
Kayla wrote: "it's often very easy to get caught up in our own bubble of geographic location and forget that there is a bigger world out there than just what we see in front of us...."
I like the way you put this. It's very true. Geographically, as well as our place in time vs the time it was written.
I like the way you put this. It's very true. Geographically, as well as our place in time vs the time it was written.

I like the ..."
Yes- the time period is soooo important also. I've found myself not enjoying some of the older works as much just because of the time period they were written in- I can easily read a modern piece of literature SET in those same periods, but reading one that was actually written back then? That is a whole other ballgame and not just in the language used itself, but also in so far as things were just different back then so you could read something that seems appalling or gross or crazy/unbelievable and yet it only seems that way because we aren't living in time when those things were likely just a normal way of life...something as simple as reading a book written in the 70s and 80s and even early 90s, it seems that ALL of the characters smoke- something I myself detest, yet when reading those books I remind myself of when they were written and the fact that in those decades it was normal and extremely common and there wasn't anywhere near as much research and data available on the effects and when I remember that, it doesn't bother me *as much* lol.
Kayla wrote: "70s and 80s and even early 90s, it seems that ALL of the characters smoke- something I myself detest..."
That's very true too.... or how about 14 year-old girls marrying 35 year old-men? And starting to have babies immediately. That was totally not even a big deal once upon a time. Now we all cringe.
That's very true too.... or how about 14 year-old girls marrying 35 year old-men? And starting to have babies immediately. That was totally not even a big deal once upon a time. Now we all cringe.

That's very true too.... or how about 14 year-old girls marrying 35 year old-..." Yes exactly! And I can hate the concept when I read it and still enjoy the book IF I remind myself that this was a different time and socially acceptable (even if it is wrong IMO lol) not to mention it's so cringeworthy these days that even in movie adaptations they typically cast older people in those roles to avoid the "cringeworthiness"


Escapist fiction --
King Solomon's Mines and She by H. Rider Haggard
Sandokan: The Tigers of Mompracem by Emilio Salgari
What a fun read -- good pirates, innocent maidens, romance, and lots of adventure! (This book is also on the Boxall 1001 Children's Books list.)
King Solomon's Mines and She by H. Rider Haggard
Sandokan: The Tigers of Mompracem by Emilio Salgari
What a fun read -- good pirates, innocent maidens, romance, and lots of adventure! (This book is also on the Boxall 1001 Children's Books list.)


- War and Peace: finally! Took me some time to get into the story but liked it in the end. Also as a French person it's interesting to see how the Napoleonic wars are viewed from Russia.
- Americanah hands down my favorite book so far this year. Looking forward to reading other Adichie books!
H is for Hawk by Helen Macdonald
A beautiful, fascinating book about the author's struggle with training a goshawk and dealing with her grief over her father's death. Woven in with her story is that of T. H. White (A Once and Future King).
A beautiful, fascinating book about the author's struggle with training a goshawk and dealing with her grief over her father's death. Woven in with her story is that of T. H. White (A Once and Future King).
Fran wrote: "Finished 2 big ones this week:
- War and Peace: finally! Took me some time to get into the story but liked it in the end. Also as a French person it's interesting to see how the Napoleon..."
I finally read War and Peace earlier this year also, had vowed I would do it when I retired. It's not a difficult read, but very long. I thought Americanah was very good also.
- War and Peace: finally! Took me some time to get into the story but liked it in the end. Also as a French person it's interesting to see how the Napoleon..."
I finally read War and Peace earlier this year also, had vowed I would do it when I retired. It's not a difficult read, but very long. I thought Americanah was very good also.
The House of the Spirits by Isabel Allende. I liked the first half a lot. As it went on I lost some interest as it got more and more political.


I loved it even when it was difficult and heartbreaking. One of those books that you don’t “put away” once you turn the final page. It sort of just sticks with you for a bit.

An Artist of the Floating World by Kazuo Ishiguro - 4 stars - My Review


Lives of Girls and Women by Nobel laureate Alice Munro. A bildungsroman, or coming-of-age story, of a girl/young woman in a Canadian town in the 50's. Four stars.
Bryan "They call me the Doge" wrote: "The Passion According to G.H. by Clarice Lispector"
That one gave me the heebie-jeebies due to my irrational fear of cockroaches.
That one gave me the heebie-jeebies due to my irrational fear of cockroaches.

Regeneration by Pat Barker - 5 stars - My Review

That would do it. I thought that was an extraordinarily difficult book in general though. I believe the gist was the deconstruction and reconstruction of a human being through the catalyst of the dead cockroach, but I could be wrong. It's one I'll have to return to someday, just to see what new impressions it makes.


Not to mention the list is heavily biased toward Western and in particular English speaking authors.
Just to have an idea of how little some other parts of the world are represented, there isn't a single Portuguese speaking African author in the list. Mia Couto, missing, Agualusa, missing, Pepetela, missing.
There's been plenty of edits to the list, usually dropping and adding more European and/or American authors and yet not a single African author who writes in Portuguese has been added. And I have checked, these authors have been translated into English so it is not a matter of just not being available.

Not what I was expecting. I read The Sword in the Stone when I was young and I loved it, but the other three books in this quartet are much darker in tone. They were written at different points during and after World War II, and White uses the characters and folklore of the Arthurian legend to question why wars are fought.

The Bluest Eye by Toni Morrison - 2 stars - My Review
Sean wrote: "I finished my re-read of A Town Like Alice by Nevil Shute. It was just as good the second time."
One of my favorites!
One of my favorites!
The Flamethrowers by Rachel Kushner
Fascinating look at the 1960s art scene in New York and the rise of the Red Brigade in Italy.
Fascinating look at the 1960s art scene in New York and the rise of the Red Brigade in Italy.
Karen wrote: "Sean wrote: "I finished my re-read of A Town Like Alice by Nevil Shute. It was just as good the second time."
One of my favorites!"
Mine too!!
One of my favorites!"
Mine too!!
I finished Grande Sertão: Veredas by João Guimarães Rosa.
AKA: The Devil to Pay in the Backlands. This is how I read it. I kept reading about how the English translation really didn't do the book justice. That's too bad. However, I loved this book anyway and I guess I can't miss what I wouldn't have understood anyway.
AKA: The Devil to Pay in the Backlands. This is how I read it. I kept reading about how the English translation really didn't do the book justice. That's too bad. However, I loved this book anyway and I guess I can't miss what I wouldn't have understood anyway.
Finished Vile Bodies by Evelyn Waugh and Arcanum 17: With Apertures by André Breton. Both were mediocre.

The History of Love by Nicole Krauss. Guys, don't avoid this book because it sounds "romantic"; it's good, and pretty amusing in parts.
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Many of these books were written in languages that are not your own. When you read one of those, you are probabl..."
Very good points and one that can be very much applied all the way down to children's books. My son's school will sometimes read bilingual books to the class which I think is amazing, but the translation just doesn't come across as well always- I'm speaking from the "sound" perspective as I don't know another language and so can't full translate the other language directly, but my point being in that in a recent book, it was clearly initially written in english and it rhymed- well obviously, a rhyming book in one language won't likely be translated into another language and still rhyme. Basically- you're point is very good, there are so many things to remember when asking ourselves why we didn't enjoy a book as much or why it's included on a list and it's often very easy to get caught up in our own bubble of geographic location and forget that there is a bigger world out there than just what we see in front of us.