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message 1: by Sandy, Moderator Emeritus (last edited Aug 15, 2013 06:58PM) (new)

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10.4. Back by Request - Labor Day.

Read a book in which the author’s surname is also a profession. For ideas and help, see the Fall 2011 Help Thread for Task 5.6.
Common variations in spelling will be accepted - for instance "Taylor" for tailor.


message 2: by Sandy, Moderator Emeritus (last edited Nov 12, 2013 05:15PM) (new)

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These work:
Taylor, Farmer, Dean, Smith, Cooper, Hunter, Butler, King, Knight, Fisher, Mayor, Porter, Archer, Miller, Gardiner, Grazer, Fowler, Bailie (Bailey), Harper, Chandler, Forman (foreman), Lackey, Shepherd.


message 3: by Sandy, Moderator Emeritus (last edited Nov 12, 2013 05:15PM) (new)

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Won't work - Layman, Sarge, Shriver, Baron.


message 4: by Claire (new)

Claire (proud-mum) | 1086 comments I am going to read The Comte And The Courtesan by Truda Taylor.


message 8: by Sandy, Moderator Emeritus (new)

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Kathryn CA wrote: "Would "Smith" work?I want to read The Statistical Probability of Love at First Sight by Jennifer E. Smith"

yes it would - "smith" is an occupation.


message 10: by Sandy, Moderator Emeritus (new)

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Jayme VA wrote: "How about Michelle Cooper?"

yep.


message 11: by Foxy Grandma (new)

Foxy Grandma (foxygrandma) | 1194 comments Would Hunter work as a last name?


message 12: by Bec (new)

Bec (foreverfnm) | 132 comments Haha Beth, I was about to get Stephen Hunter approved. :)


message 13: by Sandy, Moderator Emeritus (new)

Sandy | 16893 comments Mod
Beth NC wrote: "Would Hunter work as a last name?"

yes


message 14: by Amanda (new)

Amanda (amandapearl) | 267 comments Is the last name King ok?


message 15: by Sandy, Moderator Emeritus (last edited Aug 25, 2013 02:25PM) (new)

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Amanda (Pearl the Book Girl) wrote: "Is the last name King ok?"

Judy wrote: "Would the last name Butler be OK?"

yes to both


message 16: by JennRenee, Moderator (new)

JennRenee (jennreneeread) | 2904 comments Mod
would the last name Knight work?


message 17: by Sandy, Moderator Emeritus (new)

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JennRenee wrote: "would the last name Knight work?"

sure thing.


message 18: by Skandia (new)

Skandia (sfgirl) | 371 comments What about last name Fisher?


message 19: by Sandy, Moderator Emeritus (new)

Sandy | 16893 comments Mod
Fisher is fine.


message 20: by Andy (last edited Aug 27, 2013 12:20PM) (new)

Andy Plonka (plonkaac) | 4207 comments What about Mayor as in Bellows Falls by Archer Mayor?


message 21: by Sandy, Moderator Emeritus (new)

Sandy | 16893 comments Mod
Andy wrote: "What about Mayor as in Bellows Falls by Archer Mayor?"

That works!

BTW, Andy, you need to contact me about your task for fall.


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Andy Plonka (plonkaac) | 4207 comments Sandy wrote: "Andy wrote: "What about Mayor as in Bellows Falls by Archer Mayor?"

That works!

BTW, Andy, you need to contact me about your task for fall."

I'm not sure how I do that . When I did a task last season, Kristy contacted me and I had to list her as a friend or something. Can you tell me how to do this again? My computer skills are not so great, but I can learn.


message 23: by Rosemary (last edited Aug 29, 2013 02:25PM) (new)

Rosemary | 613 comments Just click on Sandy's name and you can send a message. If you have your account set to only accept messages from friends, it must be real hard for the moderators :)
If you want to change it to help them out, click on the arrow next to your image top right of screen, choose 'edit profile', choose 'settings', scroll down to 'who can send me private messages', choose 'anyone' and scroll down and save your new account settings.


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Stacie (shorty_320) | 1335 comments I'm pretty sure this will work, but how about the last name Layman?


message 25: by Sandy, Moderator Emeritus (new)

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Stacie wrote: "I'm pretty sure this will work, but how about the last name Layman?"

The only definition I'm aware of for a layman is someone who is not a professional in a specific field. Do you have a definition showing it as a job/profession?


message 26: by Stacie (new)

Stacie (shorty_320) | 1335 comments Sandy wrote: "Stacie wrote: "I'm pretty sure this will work, but how about the last name Layman?"

The only definition I'm aware of for a layman is someone who is not a professional in a specific field. Do you ..."


I was thinking more in the religious sense. As a member of a church or someone who works for the church, but who is not a member of the clergy, such as a nun or a lay brother.

If it doesn't work, no big deal. I can definitely think of other authors i could use!


message 27: by Susan (new)

Susan | 682 comments Will "Porter" work? As in In Between Days by Andrew Porter by Andrew Porter?


message 28: by Sandy, Moderator Emeritus (new)

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Susan wrote: "Will "Porter" work? As in In Between Days by Andrew Porter by Andrew Porter?"

yes


message 29: by Sandy, Moderator Emeritus (new)

Sandy | 16893 comments Mod
Stacie wrote: "Sandy wrote: "Stacie wrote: "I'm pretty sure this will work, but how about the last name Layman?"

The only definition I'm aware of for a layman is someone who is not a professional in a specific f..."


I'm sorry, but I don't really think this works as the name of an occupation or profession.


message 30: by Stacie (new)

Stacie (shorty_320) | 1335 comments Sandy wrote: "Stacie wrote: "Sandy wrote: "Stacie wrote: "I'm pretty sure this will work, but how about the last name Layman?"

The only definition I'm aware of for a layman is someone who is not a professional ..."


No worries! I'm glad I asked before I posted!


message 31: by Kim (new)

Kim (goodreadscomkimber) | 708 comments Can I use 'Archer', as in Jeffrey Archer?


message 32: by Sandy, Moderator Emeritus (new)

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Kim wrote: "Can I use 'Archer', as in Jeffrey Archer?"

yes


message 33: by Alexis (new)

Alexis (kheleyr) | 120 comments Can I use Miller, as in Sin City, Vol. 5: Family Values by Frank Miller?


message 34: by Sandy, Moderator Emeritus (new)

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Alexis wrote: "Can I use Miller, as in Sin City, Vol. 5: Family Values by Frank Miller?"

yes


message 35: by Tammy AZ (new)

Tammy AZ (tammyaz) | 1207 comments How about Gardiner/Gardner? Meg Gardiner or Lisa Gardner


message 36: by Sandy, Moderator Emeritus (new)

Sandy | 16893 comments Mod
Tammy AZ wrote: "How about Gardiner/Gardner? Meg Gardiner or Lisa Gardner"

sure


message 37: by Susan A (new)

Susan A | 1662 comments Long Shot -- K. D. Sarge for Sergeant


message 38: by Sandy, Moderator Emeritus (new)

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Susan A wrote: "Long Shot -- K. D. Sarge for Sergeant"

too long a shot! Won't work, sorry.


message 39: by Susan A (new)

Susan A | 1662 comments I've got Cartwright as my back up so I'm good. Thanks!


message 40: by Peebee (new)

Peebee | 481 comments Will Gigi Levangie Grazer work?

One of the dictionary definitions for Grazer is "To tend (feeding livestock) in a pasture."

Or Lionel Shriver?

From Wikipedia:

However, the basic meaning of the Indo-European root that is the linguistic ancestor of shrive is the idea of writing, and it lives on in many other modern words, including English scribe and scrivener and German schreiben [to write]. Therefore, the surname Shriver may possibly have come from another occupation connected in some way with writing, such as clerk or secretary, and it could have arisen on the continent in an earlier form of spelling and pronunciation and been naturalised into English.


message 41: by Peebee (last edited Sep 25, 2013 10:17PM) (new)

Peebee | 481 comments Will Gigi Levangie Grazer work?

One of the dictionary definitions for Grazer is "a person who grazes [tends (feeding livestock) in a pasture.]"


Or Lionel Shriver?

From Wikipedia:

However, the basic meaning of the Indo-European root that is the linguistic ancestor of shrive is the idea of writing, and it lives on in many other modern words, including English scribe and scrivener and German schreiben [to write]. Therefore, the surname Shriver may possibly have come from another occupation connected in some way with writing, such as clerk or secretary, and it could have arisen on the continent in an earlier form of spelling and pronunciation and been naturalised into English.

Or Karen Joy Fowler:

A dictionary definition for Fowler is "someone who hunts wild birds for food," so if Hunter and Fisher are acceptable, I'm hoping Fowler would be too.


message 42: by Sandy, Moderator Emeritus (new)

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Peebee wrote: "Will Gigi Levangie Grazer work?

One of the dictionary definitions for Grazer is "a person who grazes [tends (feeding livestock) in a pasture.]"


Or Lionel Shriver?

From Wikipedia:

However, the ..."


Grazer and Fowler will work since they are names of professions, even if pretty much archaic.

Shriver, no - "may possibly" have some connection with some job involved with writing is too attenuated.


message 43: by Peebee (new)

Peebee | 481 comments Grazer and Fowler will work since they are names of professions, even if pretty much archaic.

Yeah, lots of them are definitely archaic since we stopped naming people after what they did a few centuries ago....

I found this good list for reference purposes -- may make things easier for all of us:

Surnames that are professions


message 44: by Janet F (new)

Janet F (janet_f) | 450 comments How about Bailey for Elisabeth Tova Bailey meaning steward, public official or bailiff?


message 45: by Sandy, Moderator Emeritus (new)

Sandy | 16893 comments Mod
Janet F wrote: "How about Bailey for Elisabeth Tova Bailey meaning steward, public official or bailiff?"

Do you have a dictionary reference for this as a meaning of "bailey"? I checked a few, and didn't see this as a definition.


message 46: by Janet F (new)

Janet F (janet_f) | 450 comments Sandy wrote: "Janet F wrote: "How about Bailey for Elisabeth Tova Bailey meaning steward, public official or bailiff?"

Do you have a dictionary reference for this as a meaning of "bailey"? I checked a few, an..."


Sandy,
I don't see it in a standard dictionary except as bailie

http://dictionary.reference.com/brows...

But I originally found it on surname sites/ancestry. They suggest it is the title given to the person who is the steward/person living by the outer wall of a castle or some kind of public official.

http://www.ancestry.com/name-origin?s...
http://www.surnamedb.com/Surname/Bailey

At any rate, I'll understand if you don't accept it since the specific definition isn't confirmed with a standard english dictionary.


message 47: by Sandy, Moderator Emeritus (new)

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Janet F wrote: "Sandy wrote: "Janet F wrote: "How about Bailey for Elisabeth Tova Bailey meaning steward, public official or bailiff?"

Do you have a dictionary reference for this as a meaning of "bailey"? I che..."


I'll take it - the dictionary.com reference shows it as an occupational name in Scotland, so that's okay - and "bailie" works as a variant spelling of "bailey." Please be sure to point out in your completed task post that it was approved here!


message 48: by Janet F (new)

Janet F (janet_f) | 450 comments Sandy wrote: "Janet F wrote: "Sandy wrote: "Janet F wrote: "How about Bailey for Elisabeth Tova Bailey meaning steward, public official or bailiff?"

Do you have a dictionary reference for this as a meaning of ..."


Thanks!!


message 49: by Susan A (new)

Susan A | 1662 comments Can I get these authors approved please

Kaje Harper (harper = harpist https://www.google.com/search?q=is+ch...)


M. Chandler (a dealer in supplies and equipment for ships and boats. https://www.google.com/search?q=is+ch...)

THanks


message 50: by Sandy, Moderator Emeritus (new)

Sandy | 16893 comments Mod
Susan A wrote: "Can I get these authors approved please

Kaje Harper (harper = harpist https://www.google.com/search?q=is+ch......"


both are fine


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