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And you're right; you can have a brooding/tough/strong/sexy guy that's a nice guy and not an asshat (love this term!). In fiction that is!!


I do think her Fallen Angels has more plot though, at least there's a bad guy there that you can count on screwing the lives of the characters :)

A book that I love but hasn't got good reviews in my country (Spain) is Beautiful Creatures.

Agreed, I mean, some women swoon over these control freak bad boys but what I sometimes see is abuse. Don't get me wrong I like me some fierce and brooding guys (esp in books) but they don't have to be controlling abusive men all the freaking time.
Gokce ~Muslin Myst~ wrote: "I do think her Fallen Angels has more plot though, at least there's a bad guy there that you can count on screwing the lives of the characters :) "
Yes! I think so too. The bad guy, Devina, was very effective, unique and memorable.

Which is a shame, because that kind of character doesn't exist in her BDB series.
Oh, and I agree on alpha males bordering on abusive or controlling, which is another problem I have with the BDB books. I have no problems with a bit of jealousy, and certainly I like my alpha men, but it seems to me like the women in that series are there only as a lay-for-life for those men, and something to be possessive and obsessed about. It saddens me.

Hey Ann!!!! I'm so happy that I'm not alone! I'm on one of Ward's lists and I swear to the Goddess, these women are so intense. Heaven forbid you disagree w/them or ask a stupid question. I mean they act as if Ward is Shakespeare, Austen and Twain! I stopped buying her books and just borrow them from the library.

I wanted to love this book but I'm stuck at around page 200 or so... I just don't like the characters."
I think I read up to the 3rd book and then I gave up. It just got too confusing.

Now I do really like Marjorie M Liu's Dirk and Steele novels Tiger Eye and people don't seem to talk about them much.

but i just cant take any more of multiple POVs...
it gets increasing more and more each book....

HAHAHAHHAA Asshat hi..."
They probably all stay together because in 90% of these books the man is metaphysically forced to love the woman for eternity as a consequence of being a shifter or a vampire or whatever the fuck stereotypical creature the man invariably is.

I guess any YA series. I don't see the appeal, and in fact consider YA to ruin what might otherwise be an ok book. Its gotten to the point where I read the synopsis like so:
"Seventeen Year old (I STOP READING HERE) Special Girl always had a normal dull life but then she awakened a special power that makes her special and grabs the attention of local special vampire stud muffin Glitter Flakes who wants her because shes so pretty, way prettier than the other nasty girls who only pretend to be her friends but really aren't because theyre all jealous of how pretty she is OH AND THE WORLD IS IN DANGER BTW AND ONLY HER SPECIAL POWERS THAT MAKE HER SPECIAL AND PROBABLY A PRINCESS OR SOMETHING CAN STOP IT. THERE IS SUSPENSE IN THIS BOOK BECAUSE ITS PNR AND WE HAVE TO HAVE THAT"

I didn't like BDB because it reads like a soap opera with vampires. I didn't like Knight (seriously it is Capitol Hill in Denver not Capital Hill, grrrrr) or This Man. Piss off Alpha Males. I hated the Neighbors from Hell; the women were written to be so stupid, especially Zoe.
And I love Beautiful Bastard. That book was nearly pitch perfect; the other ones in the series, not so much.

Oh.. and I don't like Fifty Shades of Grey :P
As for IAD and Dark Hunter, I still read it and enjoy it as well. Just to fulfil my PNR quota per month, lol!
Hannah wrote: "specially in the indie type books, what ever happened to the nice guys I miss them :( "
This!

I believe that if it was a bigger book, with more details about... well, everything, especially about the rebels (what they want, what is their next move, to be more involved anyway and ect), it would be a much better book! Perhaps she is getting there.
Well, as I said I like it anyway, despite it's flaws. What do you think?
P.S. If America and Maxon do not end up together I'll be really pissed!

My 2 big ones that everyone else seems to love and I hate are: Halfway to the Grave and Fifty Shades of Grey. I dragged myself through 50 Shades of Thesaurus, just because everyone swore it was amazing. I never did make it past page 50 of Halfway to the Grave, even after 2 attempts.

Can't get into the Argeneau or Love at Stake series, barely made it through City of Bones.
I love Lynn Viehl's Kyndred, Darkyn, and Lords of the Darkyn series-so good!
I've liked BDB and Fallen Angels but respect everyone's opinions and agree to some of the comments. As for Ms. Ward's actions, I think just deleting all negative comments is wrong. Haters just hating? Sure, delete 'em! But, if a reader takes the time to offer her (or his) considered opinion, why not listen?




Feehan's writing is an acquired taste (loooong scenes with looooooooong conversations), but I have enjoyed her other series.

Yes Kristina I agree. Twilight because I would not have read Sookie with out reading Twilight first and then that lead to everything else. And yep to Fever too.

I'm sure there is a series I love that people hate, but I can't think of one right now.

And the one everyone loves? Kate Daniel series by Ilona Andrews..I only read one but I almost couldn't get through it. I won't be reading another one.(and yes I know that's a very unpopular view)



Cat's a total Mary Sue. :) and Spike (sorry, Bones) is, well, he's Spike from Buffy.
I wish someone had told the author that there isn't - and never has been - a place in Australia called 'South Wales'. Every time Spike talks about his convict past I want to scream!
Not a difficult fact to check...

The final book tipped it from mild misogyny into all out nastiness.
Brown hair sure didn’t make Bella an intelligent person.

Ooo, scathing :) Luvs it

I'm not sure how I feel about Outlander and Fifty Shades mentioned in the same breath... lol But that might just be my opinion

However I really quite enjoyed the Host. I consider it Meyer's best work by faaaaaaaar.

That really bothered me too. Someone must have told Jeaniene Frost she got it wrong because in later books she correctly called it New South Wales.


I know I'm likely to piss 'lovers' of this series off, but I refer to this series as 'House of Slut'. I enjoyed it at first, but it's reached a point where I just plain don't care what happens to them. Live or die- I just plain don't care; I like sex, and I like angst- but this mix is raunchy, foul mixture.

Sorry... I couldn't take it. It hit me in all the wrong ways, and HOW many panties is the guy going to rip off and keep? Just no. NO. Go away Mr. Panty ripper and creepy keeper.

And the one everyone loves? Kate Daniel series by Ilona Andrews..I on..."
The first book in Kate Daniels series is hard to get through for me. But I become a fans after the third book. LOL, I know some people are impatient, when first book do not work for them, they will not continue it. Same happen with me with FSoG, people said to me to continue read book #2 and #3 and I'm not interested.

And the one everyone loves? Kate Daniel series by Ilona..." I really had such a hard time getting through it and putting it down for long periods of time, I just can't even imagine reading another one-especially with so many books out there to pick from.
Ren--I agree with you about first books. Often they are the weakest book in a series, simply because the author is having to cram so much information into them--introducing the hero/heroine, the world, the rules, the logic, the side characters, everything. So I will try the second book and, if it sort of interests me, I will give the third a try. But I've never gone beyond the third in some series, simply because they just did NOT grab me, or they didn't get any better (bdb) or the author didn't stick to their own rules. Sometimes, too, that first book is not only the first book in the series, but it's also the first book the author has ever sold (Storm Front as an example) and they are still learning their craft. So, yeah, first books should be taken as what they are--a huge labour that one should make allowances for. But if those next couple of books don't get any better--drop the series and run not walk to the exit of the book store. (Or for your mouse to click away.)

Sorry... I couldn't take it. It hit me in all the wrong ways, and H..."
I completely understand! After I wrote that post I realized I was commenting on some books that weren't paranormal. To that end, I liked the Fever series and Outlander but I can't say that I was blown away with them.


I sloughed through the Fever series cause the story line kept me going but I tell ya Mac and her thinking was driving me up the wall. One paragraph the sex is all about them.. to the point where the whole of the world doesn't exist and a few pages later Ole Mac is in her head thinking about the book while, what is his name? is doing his level best to please her from behind.
I am wading through the Black Brotherhood now.. the point of view stuff is bothersome.. I starting skimming some of it.. I didn't even have to read about Tohr and Daruis back in the day to figure it out with the present day stuff.
I could not put Fifty Shade of Gray down.. honest I was on vacation.. I did nothing but read for two days and a night.
Mercy Thompson is a special friend I go back to visit.
Night Huntress is next on my list.
Holly wrote: "I hate to say, because so many of my friend and family love it, but I really did not like Beautiful Creatures. It just seemed to go on and on."
Me too, Holly! Couldn't do it. Just like City of Bones. My family and friends like them so I keep it to myself :) Give me something a little more fast paced. It wasn't the premise that bothered me about these books, just the execution. Oh well, sometimes I'm picky, sometimes I'm not. I must have been picky while reading these books.
Me too, Holly! Couldn't do it. Just like City of Bones. My family and friends like them so I keep it to myself :) Give me something a little more fast paced. It wasn't the premise that bothered me about these books, just the execution. Oh well, sometimes I'm picky, sometimes I'm not. I must have been picky while reading these books.


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I think there is a reason I never felt compelled to finish Night Huntress (got to book 4 and stopped.)

I really liked Stephen Kings Dark Tower books.


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Me too. I think that one was the last IAD I read. I felt like the book doesn't give women justice and the Alpha's are borderline abusive. The sexual assaults/rape? I think? threw me off too. It sucked really because I wanted to like it and it's been recommended to me so much.

I also did not care for Demonica Series and Guild Hunter Series....

Sentinel Wars-Shannon K Butcher: Either you hated them or loved them....Romance does not rank up with romance in the Outlander series in these novels, but the world building and storytelling is wonderful. I LOVE this series.










Scanguards Vampires-Tina Folsom: Alot of people did not care for this series....I wonder why? A Vampire Brotherhood, lots of action, sex, romance and humor....It is one of my favorites.












Yea I liked the first one but i liked it less and less towards the end...but i still never was really crazy about them. Oh and i do not like the ending.
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HAHAHAHHAA Asshat hilarious!