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I also finished the audiobook of Open Season, which is the first book in a police procedural mystery series set in Vermont. I interrupted my other reading for this as the author is coming to my town for our Book Festival this weekend. While a little grittier than my current taste in mysteries, I liked this enough that I would like to read more in the series. 3.5★

I'm slowly making my way through this one, Leslie.

I'm slowly ..."
Yes, I took my time with it. It would be easy to overdose on his stories I think, especially the darker ones.

Our reviews are similar and we rated the book the same.
My review for We Are Water: https://www.goodreads.com/review/show...

Aunt Dimity And The Duke by Nancy Atherton
Nancy Clancy - The Secret of the Silver Key - Book #4 in the Nancy Clancy Series by Jane O'Connor.
Both of these books are really good. I dearly lov these books.
I am going to be buying the Nancy Clancy Series....they are kinda like Nancy Drew Books. There is a total of 7 books in this series.
Happy Reading

Ditto. Glad I'm not the only one not feeling it with that book and glad it wasn't any longer.

* edit--I should be clear about my "reviews." I don't write reviews per se. I just give a couple of sentences about my thoughts on the book, and I almost always, always, always, avoid giving a synopsis, as I'm convinced they spoil the book for potential readers. I generally try to avoid them until I've read the book. I won't even read reviews if I have any intention of reading a book for fear of encountering a synopsis.

I think people should explain their views, so I am putting a link to my review here: https://www.goodreads.com/review/show...
When you picked up the book I didn't want to open my mouth but now you have finished.

Review: https://www.goodreads.com/review/show...

Goodness, that's discouraging Chuck - hope it isn't true. It reminds me a little of Eminent Victorians by Lytton Strachey, another destroyer of legends.

I'd need to read it of course, but several things ring alarm bells for me straight off:
1. It's short - 98 pages
2. Goodreads says, "Hitchens was a polemicist and intellectual. While he was once identified with the Anglo-American radical political left, near the end of his life he embraced some arguably right-wing causes" Bit of a shift there ...
4. He was a journalist - and maybe keen for a story, or an unusual angle?
5. Goodreads again, "Hitchens was an anti-theist". Now I'm not religious either, so know you can still admire the person without believing in their religion. But couple this term with the earlier one "polemicist..."
So I'm just wondering how reliable you found this account to be. Like Greg I'd be very saddened if it turned out to be accurate, but I suppose you can never be sure ...

Re: Christopher Hitchens: A staple of talk shows and lecture circuits, his confrontational style of debate made him both a lauded and controversial figure. Known for his contrarian stance on a number of issues, Hitchens excoriated such public figures as Mother Teresa; Bill Clinton; Henry Kissinger; Noam Chomsky; Diana, Princess of Wales; and Pope Benedict XVI.
Long describing himself as a socialist and a Marxist, Hitchens began his break from the established political left after what he called the "tepid reaction" of the Western left to the controversy over The Satanic Verses, followed by the left's embrace of Bill Clinton, and the "anti-war" movement's opposition to intervention in Bosnia-Herzegovina. Even though Hitchens did not leave his position writing for The Nation until post-9/11, stating that he felt the magazine had arrived at a position "that John Ashcroft is a greater menace than Osama bin Laden."[8] The September 11 attacks "exhilarated" him, bringing into focus "a battle between everything I love and everything I hate," and strengthening his embrace of an interventionist foreign policy which challenged "fascism with an Islamic face".
The preceding two paragraphs are from Wikipedia.
Personally, I'm not sure I'd ever read anything he wrote!


@ Jean: Yes, it's true--I'm absolutely convinced.
John wrote: "A sad loss when he died a few years ago, I always found everything Hitchens wrote interesting, arguable, and well-written, with passion. A bit like George Orwell, about whom he wrote a good book. A..."
Absolutely.
Chuck wrote: "
@ Jean: Yes, it's true--I'm absolutely convinced..."
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I'd heard she was imperious in her management style, but I always thought it was in the interests of giving people the best care. But I know very little about it; so I'm sure others could judge much better than me.
@ Jean: Yes, it's true--I'm absolutely convinced..."
:(
I'd heard she was imperious in her management style, but I always thought it was in the interests of giving people the best care. But I know very little about it; so I'm sure others could judge much better than me.

@ Jean: Yes, it's true--I'm absolutely convinced..."
:(
I'd heard she was imperious in her management style, but I always thought it was in the interests of giving people the best..."
That's the part that really gets to me: the horrible way people were treated in her clinics: People who had terminal cancer, absolutely severe pain, couldn't get anything more than aspirin; Hypodermic needles were reused; People whose lives could have been saved via a simple surgery or antibiotics were denied. Of course, when she needed care it was nothing but the best for her.



That was his intention right from the beginning. Before reading Hitchens, it is also good to be informed of it.

How have I not come across this author? He sounds so controversial! Expensive on Kindle unfortuately but I now have him on "Watch".
I have a natural aversion to these "warts and all" exposés ... but also do not like to prejudge!
I'd certainly heard of him - I have friends that like him. But I was mainly familiar with his anti-religious books like God is Not Great: How Religion Poisons Everything. You can tell from the title that this isn't a measured book either. He was a passionate man, quite intelligent but not necessarily someone that matched my temperament.
I don't think he's one of those polemical writers that just cynically lies in a spectacular way in order to maximize controversy and hence sales & profit. We do have plenty of those over here, and they sometimes get comfy jobs on a certain news station which is beyond me.
I do think though that he wasn't cautious or measured, and he definitely loved expressing things in shocking & controversial ways. He had a high octane mind that sometimes carried him a bit past the mark. That's just my opinion. I haven't read the Mother Teresa one, and I haven't done any research; so I can't comment on it. But I'll hold onto my uncynical view of her until I have time to look into it fully - by default I prefer to believe in goodness when I can; I think that makes life happier. :)
I can comment on the book I linked. In it, there were some kernels of truth, but some statements were highly unfair I think, and I certainly didn't agree with his conclusions. I definitely think that he meant and believed them though.
I don't think he's one of those polemical writers that just cynically lies in a spectacular way in order to maximize controversy and hence sales & profit. We do have plenty of those over here, and they sometimes get comfy jobs on a certain news station which is beyond me.
I do think though that he wasn't cautious or measured, and he definitely loved expressing things in shocking & controversial ways. He had a high octane mind that sometimes carried him a bit past the mark. That's just my opinion. I haven't read the Mother Teresa one, and I haven't done any research; so I can't comment on it. But I'll hold onto my uncynical view of her until I have time to look into it fully - by default I prefer to believe in goodness when I can; I think that makes life happier. :)
I can comment on the book I linked. In it, there were some kernels of truth, but some statements were highly unfair I think, and I certainly didn't agree with his conclusions. I definitely think that he meant and believed them though.

Alice, I, too, thought he was probably very smart and worth reading until I read his Wikipedia page. He seemed to like to create outrage, more than anything else.

I'm only guessing here, in part, but I have a nagging notion in my head that that is all which would have been available in India at the time.
But we must also remember, Mother Teresa was a nun and care in her Houses of the Dying were administered by nuns and volunteers. Should expert medical care be expected from nuns and volunteers?
I'm not arguing with you, I've never been to India so I know none of these facts. I went to Catholic school and Teresa was one of our modern day 'saints'. That may be why I've come out to bat for her even though I'm now a lapsed Catholic.
Hitchens may have had a brilliant mind but he sure could be very antagonistic in all his writing.

I share Greg's view and wholeheartedly agree with:
Greg wrote: "by default I prefer to believe in goodness when I can; I think that makes life happier. ..."

Our reviews are similar and we rated the book the same.
My review for [bo..."
WE obviously have great taste :)

hmm...that title sounds sacrilegious to me....didn't see your review so not sure what kind of eye opener that one was, Chuck!

Although Wiki can be very useful, there are mistakes in there, some of which are deliberately and maliciously included. And though the piece about Christopher Hitchens probably wasn't inaccurate in that way, I do wonder if it was overly partisan. Personally I have found that some articles are much more objective and informed than others, although they do try to keep an eye on it and say when something need proper citation and verifying.
One of my friends regularly adds to Wiki actually, though I reckon it must be a minefield!

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To the truth: she was anything but a good person, much less a saint. BTW, I'm not sure anything is sacred.

That's true Chuck - on the Mother Teresa subject I just don't know enough yet to judge what's true. That was my main point.

And that's a commendable approach in my view. I've always thought people should take what they read and hear with a grain of salt, whether it be Hitchens or anyone else, you know.
I don't know if others do this or not, but since I read eBooks exclusively on my laptop (or listen to audiobooks), I tend to do a lot of research while reading. I even do so with fiction, especially historical fiction. I'm about as skeptical as a person can be and still be open to learning, heh.
I often do the same thing Chuck! A lot of times that flushes things out for me so I understand better, especially with historical fiction as you say. I think a little outside research helps me retain things better too because I make more connections.

B the BookAddict wrote: "I'm only guessing here, in part, but I have a nagging notion in my head that that is all which would have been available in India at the time.
But we must also remember, Mother Teresa was a nun and care in her Houses of the Dying were administered by nuns and volunteers. Should expert medical care be expected from nuns and volunteers?
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If a person can be saved in a hospital the nuns aren't allowed to make brainwashing with the usual topics "suffering is a gift of God...you will be rewarded" and other things like this. Ill people must be cured in a hospital by qualified people and not by nuns and volunteers. I've read that Mother Theresa didn't allow her patients to go to a hospital; of course not, she received a lot of money thanks to her "help".
Don't know this author but I'm now curious about him. I had not heard of these rumors about mother Teresa, I'm not particularly interested in her. Usually I beliave that no one isctotally good or bad. She ment well, but probably pending totally on one side she did great wrongs. But I can't really tell

Yeah, it never ceases to amaze me how much you can learn from HF, and just the amount of work some of these authors must have done. I have to be real careful as to not get sidetracked when I start researching something that's piqued my interest, though, lest I end up reading something else, as one thing can often lead to another, and I'll end up reading about something else entirely, heh.

When MT was asked if she taught the poor to endure their lot she responded: “I think it is very beautiful for the poor to accept their lot, to share it with the passion of Christ. I think the world is being much helped by the suffering of the poor people.”
I think that's called being blinded by dogma to the real suffering people are going through in the here and now. And, IMO, it's morally bankrupt.

Didn't like it that much for many reasons. My review: https://www.goodreads.com/review/show...

Edited to add I have also read Mortality, very good I thought.

Unfortunately, some good events have resulted from questionable actions. Whenever this is proved beyond question then it is bound to make us reassess those involved a little bit. Do the ends always justify the means? And there you have one of the questions moral philosophers have been struggling with for centuries!
Chuck - I agree entirely that suffering is never justifiable. I take this across all species. Clearly the view you quote though is a particular spiritual view, based on a code which has its own internal "morality", based on a specific belief system, and nothing to do with the here and now. It makes no sense to me either in terms of logic unless you accept the basic premise. I'm afraid I cannot begin to get inside the mindset of someone who does.


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My review: https://www.goodreads.com/review/show..."
A friend of mine really likes Rutherfurd and has been suggesting his books for year to me.
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