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Gotta love Oscar Wilde :)

@Holly, I had the same with Catch 22, I started reading it with the idea that I would probably not get through because so many people shelve it as DNF, but after I had crossed the 80 pages mark and started surrendering to the bizarre inner logic of the book I loved it.


I am dying to read this, good to know you've loved it.

"I am dying to read this, good to know you've loved it."
Go for it, I can't recommend it enough! -and don't forget to tell us your impressions afterwards!

"I am dying to read this, good to know you've loved it."
Go for it, I can't recommend it enough! -and don't forget to tell us your impressions afterwards!"
One of the best books that I read in 2013!

https://www.goodreads.com/review/show...



hmmm -- sounds like something I might enjoy. Adding to my teetering pile ;)

Would I recommend it? Not for the casual reader but if you are interested in the history and development of themes in literature then yes. Not that I understood this.... I needed DCB Pierre (who read the audiobook) to explain this in an afterword.!

Would I recommend it? Not for the casual reader but if you are interested in the history and development of themes in literature then yes. Not that..."
Can you explain it to me? I read it last January but didn't really get it at all...

There is something about this tradition of turkish satire (Orhan Pamuk sort of being the contemporary interpretator of it) that I just can't get in to. Like with Orhan Pamuk I just get very bored once I know what it's mocking, and no matter how clever and biting the satire, I loose interest.
This really is one of the things I have yet to learn: no matter how good the book, no matter how rave the reviews, certain things I just don't like in literature for no other reason than: I just don't. There might be virtue in trying over and over again (which I have) but I guess at some point there's also virtue in acknowledging that I am just not that kind of reader. Sigh.



You might be right, satire needs to work much harder than most other genres in order for me to like it. I can think of a few exceptions to the rule though, which are mainly English/Irish. And about the Man Booker: I am not yet sure I'd agree, but it's utterly hit and miss for me. In fact it might be more miss than hit.
I just finished Andrew's Brain by E.L. Doctorow. It was amazing! Beautifully written, the story builds to an intense climax. I'm reminded why Doctorow is one of my favorite authors.

He is an author I would like to try. What would you recommend as a good book to start with?

@Leslie, I really loved The March by him, but maybe even the last one would be a good place to start, as it is fairly short.

Dely- It was a few years back that I read The Color Purple I guess it just didn't resonate with me.
Kristi- I REALLY enjoyed Stones from the River! Fantastic book.
Leslie wrote: "Terri wrote: "I just finished Andrew's Brain by E.L. Doctorow. It was amazing! Beautifully written, the story builds to an intense climax. I'm reminded why Doctorow i..."
Leslie, the first thing I ever read by Doctorow was Ragtime, and that got me hooked. It's one of his earlier works and is probably a good place to start. I thought the images and the language in World's Fair were really beautiful. On the other hand, you don't have to read his earlier works to appreciate Andrew's Brain, and since it's contemporary that's not a bad place to start either. :)
Leslie, the first thing I ever read by Doctorow was Ragtime, and that got me hooked. It's one of his earlier works and is probably a good place to start. I thought the images and the language in World's Fair were really beautiful. On the other hand, you don't have to read his earlier works to appreciate Andrew's Brain, and since it's contemporary that's not a bad place to start either. :)

Thanks for the suggestions (you too, Jenny!). It will be a while, but I will look out for his books...

I found The Golden Notebook on the depressing side as well. Perhaps all Lessing's books are like that?

It's annoying though, it's the kind of book I read then I think "Crap, I'm never going to be as good a writer as her".

It's annoying though, it's the kind of book I read then I think "Crap, I'm never going to be as good a write..."
I really must read this soon!!

It's annoying though, it's the kind of book I read then I think "Crap, I'm never going to be as good a write..."
Haha, yep it's that sort of book, glad you liked it Robert. Have you read any of Sylvia Plath's poetry? I don't read much poetry, but Ariel completely blew me away.



It's annoying though, it's the kind of book I read then I think "Crap, I'm never going to be ..."
No, I don't really read poetry I just tend to write it. I have a friend who likes her poetry though so I'll see if I can borrow it off her.








The Golden NotebookDhanaraj wrote: "@ Jenny: I liked the last paragraph of your post (n. 1121). Well said......"
Totally agree, even if it sometimes not easy to drop a book, especially if well considered!
But I've stopped feeling "obliged" to like it because the others consider it a masterpiecd - see my all in all impressions of
Totally agree, even if it sometimes not easy to drop a book, especially if well considered!
But I've stopped feeling "obliged" to like it because the others consider it a masterpiecd - see my all in all impressions of

Would I recommend it? Not for the casual reader but if you are interested in the history and development of themes in literature..."
Not sure I can but I'll have a go. Any Dostoyevsky buffs out there please do feel free to chip in....
Dostoyevsky is breaking new ground as an author by having the narrator.....the underground man constantly questioning and analysing his own thoughts, motives and feelings and commenting freely on his views of the thoughts, motives and feelings of others. In this respect it is important to be aware of when this was written.... Pre psycho-analysis days. He explores the question...
Why do rational intelligent educated people knowingly speak and act in ways that are contrary to their own health and well-being?
With our 21st century eyes we may look at the narrator and perhaps suggest here is someone who is severely depressed with a great lack of self esteem etc etc and prescribe perhaps a range of options to improve his life assuming, perhaps rather patronisingly that he himself needs to "get better" even if he doesn't want to. In Dostoyevsky's day there was no resorting to self analysis. Perhaps writing will be ultimately liberating for the narrator, perhaps not....indeed by his own acknowledgement we do not know how much of what he has written is "the truth" perhaps he doesn't know himself. Moreover these published notes are just a small selective fragment of a much greater body of notes selected, we are told, by a third party (the author if you will) who did not know the writer in person. ) so how far they are truly representative of the underground man's overall life and personality we cannot tell.
We now know Dostoyevsky suffered from partial complex seizures which will have affected his personality causing unexplained mood swings and several of his characters exhibit symptoms of this. So perhaps he is attempting, in this book to explore and rationalise behaviour, thoughts and feelings that cannot ever be rationalised. The underground man is trapped by his own thoughts and feelings. He seems to go out of his way to upset those he meets. He is inclined to rant not only in his personal notes but when he is speaking, for example to Liza, and this may also, with C21st century eyes be symptomatic of mental health problems.
Liza does of course need a friend and someone to rescue her but he rants, it seems, out of his need rather than hers and when she does seek him out is wholly unable to respond in an empathic and supporting way instead breaking down himself in tears so we realise his need for love and support is actually far greater than hers but he has no-one having alienated everyone, including Apollon his faithful servant, whom he is increasingly paranoid about withholding his pay etc.
Phew. Well writing has clarified it for me anyway!



That sounds like my kind of book!

Your comment (1153 at the present time) should really be added to your review in my opinion! By all means tweak it if you like. I'd already read and "liked" your review, but I think it would be a great shame if these observations were lost in the "threads" of time...
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