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Should I still read Twilight?
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Forget about Twilight, it is NOT worth it! If you're looking for a quick, mindless read to rant about to your friends later, then read it. If you actually want a book of quality, then move on to Shiver and such.

Now, I haven't read any of the above listed, 'cept "twilight", naturally, so I can't say how it would compare. But "twilight" is a quick and easy read, which I found quite entertaining, so I'd say give it it a try if paranormal high school romances are up your alley. :)




I totally agree with you.I'm not ashamed to say that I like it and that from time to time, I do read it again. But I read The Host more often. Just beacause I read Twilight doesn't mean that I have poor taste or it is the only genre I read. I read it, because sometimes I just want something light to read, thats all.

Read Shiver! It's amazing and very well written. I love Maggie Stiefvater. Also, if you've read Vampire Academy, read Bloodlines too! (Ahem....Adrian!!) And if you like fantasy, Graceling by Kristin Cashore is a favorite of mine.



I gave up on this series because I realized that the joke was on me.


*cleaning your toilet, washing your basin, watering plants on a rainy day,etc
that saga was published accidentally. do yourself a favor and dont read that
DONT READ IT.

*cleaning your toilet, washing your basin, watering plants on a rainy day,etc
that saga was published accidentally. do ..."
Your post put a gigantic smile on my face. Yes, cleaning your toilet is much more productive and satisfying actually.

Actually There is no way in hell I believe your a teacher thinking about it unless your a gym teacher.

And I like Tirzah's comment!

Though, as I said, it's all up to you whether you like it or not. Though in my opinion it is quite a big step back from Divergent, but that's my favourite series, so don't listen to me. But here's one thing: if you read it, you'll know what everyone's talking about and be able to add your own input!

I'm sure as a "Teacher" you know that it is suggested that you dont enter in bad literature for course study as it leads to unconscious sloppy habits.
Using examples of good writing Harper Lee, Ray Bradbury, even Rowling helps ingrain good habits sub-consciously and bad form is corrected as it is presented by the student after it has been taught.
Meyer can teach you how to use the word Laugh three times in the same sentence though.
This book has nothing positive to teach, not in writing skills or in life. And certainly not in literature... its a pop culture joke.
It adds to the zeitgeist of stupidity enveloping our country like 50 Shades of Grey, Jersey shore and American Idol, the very existence of the Cardashians, shock jocks, and texting.
I'm not saying one must only read the classics or Shakespeare. Reading should be fun but it shouldnt be this bad, this weak.
Rowling did an amazing job with HP its pure genius no matter how much she stole. Brandon Sanderson's new YA book The Rithmatist was Great. What about all the brilliant work Neil Gaiman has done in YA.
It can be fun, aimed at the joy of youth but still not be a massive car wreck of garbage like Twilight.

So what exactly is causing you to pause? Your afraid you wont like it as much as other books? The books I don't like I don't finish. Are you the type to read it thru even though you don't like it?

So what exactly is causing your to pause? Your afraid you wont like it as much..."
Probably yes, but after thinking I think I will not read it. Just like some other people say, I have so many great books to read, and I think twilight would just be a let down.

However, if you already think you're not going to like it based on what everyone and their mothers have been saying, then don't bother. If you look at is as an entertaining, teen, high school, paranormal romance (with low expectations) you'll probably enjoy yourself.

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Twilight is an easy read. Its fun just as long as you don't take it too seriously. (Did you take Vampire Academy seriously?) There is always going to be a better book than the one you just read. The fun part is finding it. Regardless of your decision, I wish you happy adventures in your reading. :)

I will say that I loved Twilight, and did NOT really enjoy many of the "much better" books that people listed, such as Matched, Vampire Academy, Harry Potter, and The Mortal Instruments series. So- just keep in mind that it's entirely possible that you might form your own unique opinion on the series, and that it might even be positive. These adamantly opposed people have no more idea of what you'd actually like than I do.

Try it out, you might love it!

And you may end up loving it. I picked it up thinking I won't like it because that's not the kind of book I usually obsess over--you wouldn't expect a hardcore LOTR or ASOIAF geek to love Twilight, right--but it got on my 'favorites' shelf.


Nathalie wrote: "So, I never read twilight, and now I am contemplating on whether to still read it. I have been reading divergent, matched, vampire academy, and I don't know if it would be a step back. If you get w..."
I have read the entire Twilight series...but here's the thing, outside of my own opinion(I thought they were good books)- Twilight offers a few things that can be wonderful or annoying...
1.Sparkly vampires who glitter in the sun.
2. 500+ page books
3. First person POV of a girl obsessed with a vampire(so you know all her rambling thoughts).
4. There is romance and a serious love triangle.
5. It is a very, very popular book series and for those who hate it, they made the book even more talked about so...
It's up to you.
I have read the entire Twilight series...but here's the thing, outside of my own opinion(I thought they were good books)- Twilight offers a few things that can be wonderful or annoying...
1.Sparkly vampires who glitter in the sun.
2. 500+ page books
3. First person POV of a girl obsessed with a vampire(so you know all her rambling thoughts).
4. There is romance and a serious love triangle.
5. It is a very, very popular book series and for those who hate it, they made the book even more talked about so...
It's up to you.




May I suggest....anything in the world but this crap aimed at immature 14 YO girls and read a book that isn't written by a hack.


It's always a "pleasure" to hear from you, why, who else would dare to think of himself as a reader and equal books for young girls to garbage... *sigh*


Are you saying that everyone who loved Twilight is immature?
And getting a boyfriend is not the sole point of the book. It's about a situation that happens to many teenagers, moving and having to fit in the new community, being socially "awkward" and not popular...and also about Bella finding her true love, not about catching a guy you can walk around and show to your friends or Bella thinking she must have a boyfriend or anything. I mean, she was 17 when she met Edward and she made it pretty clear she wasn't thinking much about guys before.
Also, if you don't like Bella or think she's weak, there are plenty of other characters in the book that surely meet everyone's standard of strong or badass or whatever. Alice, Esme, Jane, Tanya, Maria...

Short answer ...Yes
There are exceptions to every rule like maybe the over simplistic writing style and lack of anything approaching the need for thought would make this series good for the mentally handicapped.
Woman want to be taken seriously and most of the time they damn well should be but when you have a bunch of grown woman standing around a cubicle discussing Twilight believe me those woman are no longer taken seriously.
Nothing across the pop culture world is made fun of more than Twilight...not even Justin Beiber and Reality shows which Like Twilight appeal to very immature and under-developed minds.
The Writing is horrid...Hack bad and embarrassing saying NOTHING of the plot and characters.
Examples: New Moon, page 476
Aro started to laugh. "Ha, ha, ha," he chuckled.
That's three times Meyer told us Aro was laughing. I'm sure most people over the age of five know what laughter sounds like so I'm pretty certain we don't need a 'ha, ha, ha' and 'chuckled' tagged on to demonstrate that.
Then later, on page 479, just three pages after that, she does it again:
"Ha, ha, ha," he laughed, his head still bent forward.
The Series is plagued with grammatical errors, Purple Prose, over usage (such as Dazzling), repetition and worse.
how about the fact that she describes Edward's "crooked smile" and "marble chest" about 200 times!
Meyer places big words in simple sentences to make the books seem more advanced, yet misuses words I learned in first grade.
Meyer has no sense of Biology WHAT SO EVER. Vampires are dead..no heartbeat no Pulse according Meyer they can't cry Blush, pee etc but wait no blood flow? means no erection, no sex, no impregnation only an immature mind could easily dismiss basic biology for the sake of suspension of disbelief right? But When you assume as Meyer was that you're writing to an IMMATURE audience no one will question common sense as long as they can say "OMG Edward is like so hot, I wish I could get a boy to stalk me and break into my bedroom."
Renesme shouldn't be a "perfect baby", she has 23 paired chromosomes and 2 unpaired - generally "left over" chromosomes lead to conditions such as Down's Syndrome, and it is likely that Edward's vampire "sperm" wouldn't be compatible with Bella's human ova (you can't mate humans and chimps for example) but god forbid a mature reader like Twilight's even question any biology.
Bella is a spineless, whiny doormat who's obsessed with her boyfriend. She's also the biggest Mary Sue in literary history. All her flaws are so fake. She's clumsy which is the stupidest "flaw" ive ever heard of but how does this make her life harder in any way? Edward thinks it's adorable & funny and it's just another excuse for him to stalk or "protect" her on every page. She's nerdy and since when is this a flaw? Last time i checked, being smart was a virtue. Meyer tries to make it seem like this impacts her social life, yet 2-5 guys chase after her and all the girls want to be her friend. The only ones that don't are portrayed as mean in general. She's an anti-social anti-feminist crappy character.
Edward is a controlling, weird, 108 year old virgin creep. He monopolizes Bella and their relationsihp is far from normal. And not in a good way, like S.Meyer tries to make it seem. In a seriously creepy way.
the entire thing is poorly written with an over dramatic plot about a girl who can't live without a boy. Just read any random page out of any of her books and you'll see.
The Book is overloaded with her Right -Wing Mormon Dogma.
Or how about the simple fact that she destroyed vampires for Ever. They glitter and can move in daylight and play baseball (STUPIDIST SPORTS SCENE EVER WRITTEN), can have kids but they don't drink blood or in any way act like a vampire.
Stephen King one of the most prolific and read and respected authors FOR ADULTS hates her.
http://www.theguardian.com/books/2009...
Let me know if you have anymore confusion because I'm just stopping due to boredom, and god knows I wasted enough time on this joke of Writer.


Edward and Jacob are hot and they have teams and millions of junior high girls read them
http://www.jamiechavez.com/blog/2011/...

How bad are they? Let me count the ways.
Bad romance: Edward breaks into the bedroom of a young girl without her knowledge. He stalks her, for heaven’s sake. The relationship is psychologically unhealthy from Bella’s standpoint too: she completely subverts her personality to please him.
Bad technique: Bella goes on and on and on not knowing why Edward is mad, yet readers already know why he is angry—because we know his character and Meyer telegraphs it through his body language. This is a violation of POV. We shouldn’t discover why Edward is angry until Bella does. Meyer constantly tells, rather than showing. (Show don’t tell is the first commandment in the Novelist’s Bible.)
Bad characterization: Meyer has said she left out a detailed description of Bella so the reader could “step into her shoes” (which sounds to me like something made up after the mistake was pointed out) but the fact is Bella also lacks a personality, goals, interests, and life experiences. The only thing we know about her is she’s clumsy, and that never truly made sense to me. She is weak, passive, and overly emotional. The books reek of melodrama.
Bad craft: Meyer provides a reaction to every single comment. I rolled my eyes, I groaned, he stiffened, I glowered groggily. Here’s one and another example.
Bad storytelling: The books move really, really slowly. They don’t utilize any aspect of modern story structure, which recommends we start out with some piece of action that will reveal the conflict to come. In the case of the protagonists, Bella and Edward, there is no conflict for them to overcome (the most obvious of which would have been for Bella to remain human). And due to the overwriting and repetition, the books are about twice as long as they need to be. Meyer should have been reined in after the first book. I can’t imagine why no one at the publishing house did so.
Bad copyediting: Take it from me, kids, it’s atrocious. Look! Look! I’m shocked it got past the proofers.
Bad fiction: It’s just one coincidence after another in Twilight-land. (Jacob imprints on Renesmee? Oh, stop.) There are continuity errors literally from page to page.
Bad research: It bugs me when Meyer writes that Edward grips the handles of two steamer trunks in one hand. (Steamer trunks? Really?) It annoys the snot outta me when Alice bribes a guard in a foreign city with an American one-thousand-dollar bill, when those bills have been out of circulation since 1969. I could go on and on, but my point is an editor should have questioned every single one of these details.
Meyer breaks the laws of her own universe in the last book. Worse, she breaks the rules of good YA, the first of which is the story stops at the wedding. Teens really don’t like reading about other teens doing the Mom Thing. Why didn’t her editor remind Meyer about her target audience, much of which is tweens? If I’m the mother of a middle-schooler, I don’t want her reading about an eighteen-year-old girl who gets all bruised up after some rough vampire sex, even if it was on her honeymoon. What were Meyer and her editor thinking?
Worst of all, I think, is there’s a whole generation of girls out there, some of them aspiring writers, who will be misled into thinking the Twilight series was good writing simply because it moved them emotionally (and sold a lot of copies). Twilight et al should have been better books. They should have been books that made girls think and grow. Because what’s the point otherwise?

Worst of all, I think, is there’s a whole generation of girls out there, some of them aspiring writers, who will be misled into thinking the Twilight series was good writing simply because it moved them emotionally (and sold a lot of copies). Twilight et al should have been better books. They should have been books that made girls think and grow. Because what’s the point otherwise?

Give it a try if you haven't already. I love underworld, vampire, witch type storylines as well as romance! Good Luck!
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