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May 04, 2013 03:04PM
Science proves that God is real. 'Nuff said. ;)
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Science is great and all, but not all of it can be trusted. I believe science should actually be able to PROVE the existence of God, not disprove it. God is the Master Scientist, after all!
But we humans seem to think, "oh, if a scientist says it's so, then it must be true".
Oh, and I mean the atheistic scientists. :)
Take the evolution theory, for one... Darwin made a seemingly sound argument for it, and BOOM, everyone picks up on it. Thing is, it's not proven. It's just theory... I read a great argument AGAINST evolution not too long ago, I should share it, it's great!
John Lennox. Never heard of him. Reading about him on wikipedia - he sounds awesome. :)
But we humans seem to think, "oh, if a scientist says it's so, then it must be true".
Oh, and I mean the atheistic scientists. :)
Take the evolution theory, for one... Darwin made a seemingly sound argument for it, and BOOM, everyone picks up on it. Thing is, it's not proven. It's just theory... I read a great argument AGAINST evolution not too long ago, I should share it, it's great!
John Lennox. Never heard of him. Reading about him on wikipedia - he sounds awesome. :)
Richard Dawkins wrote The God Delusion, right?
:O I know so little compared to y'all. The God Delusion?
I saved it to a playlist to watch later. :)
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Cari wrote: "Science is great and all, but not all of it can be trusted. I believe science should actually be able to PROVE the existence of God, not disprove it. God is the Master Scientist, after all! But w..."
You go girl!! I completely agree with you.
Dawkins is an idiot. I'm sorry he just is. For some reason he thinks that because he is an expert in one field (biology) that automatically makes him an expert in a different field (theology). I read a Dawkins meme that said something like 'I major in biology, therefore I debate religion.' It sums up my view of the man exactly.
I don't believe science can prove God. I don't believe anyone can prove God. You can give evidence for God but you can't prove him. I think that's the way God wants it.
Melissa Corn wrote: "I don't believe science can prove God. I don't believe anyone can prove God. You can give evidence for God but you can't prove him. I think that's the way God wants it."I believe that some aspects can emphasize the existence of God though. If you look at a lot of things, it points the the presence of God.
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My mom had me read this one for my great books history study as a teenager. It's really good, talks about a lot of really awesome and famous scientists who were Christians. :)
Melissa Corn wrote: "I don't believe science can prove God. I don't believe anyone can prove God. You can give evidence for God but you can't prove him. I think that's the way God wants it."
Evidence is proof, to my way of thinking.
Evidence is proof, to my way of thinking.
♥Caro♥ wrote: "darwin is also an idiot"darwin said that evolution wasn't real on his deathbed... mr. paul said that
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darwin said that evolution wasn't real on his deathbed... mr. paul said that"
ik that okay rephrase
darwin WAS an idiot well used to b
darwin did find something interesting... Pangea most likely existed, but around Noah's ark or something maybe the continents drifted?
"According to Genesis 10:25 and 1 Chronicles 1:19, it was during the time of Peleg that "the earth was divided" – traditionally, this is often assumed to be just before, during, or after the failure of Nimrod's Tower of Babel. The meaning of the earth being divided is usually taken to refer to a patriarchal division of the world, or possibly just the eastern hemisphere, into allotted portions among the three sons of Noah for future occupation, as specifically described in the Book of Jubilees, Biblical Antiquities of Philo, Kitab al-Magall, Flavius Josephus,[1] and numerous other antiquarian and mediaeval sources, even as late as Archbishop Ussher, in his Annals of the World.[2] One account, the Conflict of Adam and Eve with Satan, states that "In the days of Phalek (Peleg), the earth was divided a second time among the three sons of Noah; Shem, Ham and Japheth" — it having been divided once previously among the three sons by Noah himself.[3]A theory current in some modern creationist schools of thought interprets this verse to suggest that Peleg lived at the time the continent of Pangaea split into modern continents,[4] although some other creationist geologists contend that such an event had happened during the Flood, five generations before Peleg.[5]" wikipedia
Leon wrote: "♥Caro♥ wrote: "darwin is also an idiot"
darwin said that evolution wasn't real on his deathbed... mr. paul said that"
yeah. people overlook that a lot. if they study his theoryof evolution, they should also look into why darwin decided evolution was wrong.
darwin said that evolution wasn't real on his deathbed... mr. paul said that"
yeah. people overlook that a lot. if they study his theoryof evolution, they should also look into why darwin decided evolution was wrong.
did darwin become a christian in his deathbed?
Hard to say. Here's an interesting article I started reading http://carm.org/secular-movements/evo...
Leon wrote: "did darwin become a christian in his deathbed?"No, he did not. That is a myth. We just learned this in science class from a Christian book.
How can we really know for sure, though?
Cari wrote: "Leon wrote: "♥Caro♥ wrote: "darwin is also an idiot"darwin said that evolution wasn't real on his deathbed... mr. paul said that"
yeah. people overlook that a lot. if they study his theoryof evol..."
Indeed. And Darwin thought his whole theory was ridiculous, after all. He was not serious about the whole thing - I like to see it as the man tried to con us for fun for a little while to prank everyone - except he managed to prank everyone for all time.
Cari wrote: "How can we really know for sure, though?"It is a fact.
Sam wrote: "Cari wrote: "Leon wrote: "♥Caro♥ wrote: "darwin is also an idiot"
darwin said that evolution wasn't real on his deathbed... mr. paul said that"
yeah. people overlook that a lot. if they study his ..."
Ha. That's it!
darwin said that evolution wasn't real on his deathbed... mr. paul said that"
yeah. people overlook that a lot. if they study his ..."
Ha. That's it!
Rose wrote: "Cari wrote: "How can we really know for sure, though?"
It is a fact."
And how do people know that that is a fact?
It is a fact."
And how do people know that that is a fact?
Cari wrote: "Rose wrote: "Cari wrote: "How can we really know for sure, though?"It is a fact."
And how do people know that that is a fact?"
I'll have to look up the circumstances of when he died, but our Christian science book said he did not.
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Rose wrote: "Melissa Corn wrote: "I don't believe science can prove God. I don't believe anyone can prove God. You can give evidence for God but you can't prove him. I think that's the way God wants it."I bel..."
True true, I just don't think you can absolutely prove God. God doesn't want us to be able to prove him, because we're supposed to walk by faith.
Cari wrote: "Melissa Corn wrote: "I don't believe science can prove God. I don't believe anyone can prove God. You can give evidence for God but you can't prove him. I think that's the way God wants it."Evide..."
I guess we think differently then :)
Not that I need 'evidence' in order to believe in God. :) I know He exists.
Cari wrote: "Not that I need 'evidence' in order to believe in God. :) I know He exists."Right, that's what I was trying to say.
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I think you can argue emotionally or scientifically but either way theres faith involved. which is a confusing factor for non believers
Yea, because your told that God made the world and then the schools say it was The Big Bang.
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Schools go blahblahblah on evolution
Yay *intense awkward moment in science class*
I cant stand when they teach Evolution! I remember when we started it, I was shaking my head no the whole time. My friend was too. Then we asked the other two kids at the table what they thought and one said, no. and the other was like, well maybe...
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Because that's all they CAN say. Because they know they are wrong!
♥CaroLynna♥ wrote: "We believe in creation
Schools go blahblahblah on evolution
Yay *intense awkward moment in science class*"
I remember one time in science class, we had just started a new unit and my teacher was going on and on about how we evolved from water creatures, etc. My friend, who sat all the way across the room, and I turned towards each other at the exact same moment, and rolled our eyes together. I think we were the only ones who didn't believe in evolution in that class.
Schools go blahblahblah on evolution
Yay *intense awkward moment in science class*"
I remember one time in science class, we had just started a new unit and my teacher was going on and on about how we evolved from water creatures, etc. My friend, who sat all the way across the room, and I turned towards each other at the exact same moment, and rolled our eyes together. I think we were the only ones who didn't believe in evolution in that class.
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Oh evolution -.- I had someone trying to convince me that there's a point during the developement of a chick in an egg where the baby chicken is actually a dinosaur. All I was doing "Dear Jesus, oh good Lord, please make them realize how dumb that is. Please please please! And would you mind burning up my school biology offices with your holy fire? Thanks!" *facepalm* But the thing is, the very terrifying truth is that we'd believe the same thing if God hadn't shown himself to us... THANK YOU SO MUCH GOD FOR MAKING US SEE THE TRUTH! :') Now we can know that we aren't monkeys.. or water creatures... or whatever the heck they say we are now :P
lol evolution is very interesting, I believe there is some evidence to warrant a belief in it but it isn't nearly as conclusive as people think. speciation for instance, a lot of evolutionists assume that evidence for speciation is evidenced for evolution. that isn't the case, most creationists believe that at least some form of speciation took place it just wasn't as extensive as evolutionists say it is. and we do believe in evolution, we call it micro-evolution ;), we just don't believe it can go as far as modern day (macro)evolutionists say it can.
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makes sense
Melissa Corn ~bubbles bubbles bubbles~ wrote: "lol evolution is very interesting, I believe there is some evidence to warrant a belief in it but it isn't nearly as conclusive as people think. speciation for instance, a lot of evolutionists assu..."
Exactly! Like, I believe in adaptation - I'm not saying that every single species of domestic cats was created and put on the ark - good Lord, can you imagine that?! Waaaay too many cats - Noah would've been the first crazy cat man! So I think it's totally plausible that cats "evolved", or better term here, adapted to their climate and then different types of cats "emerged", if you know what I mean. I think that makes sense. But all this "a chicked becomes a dinosaur becomes a monkey becomes a boy" stuff is just so mind-blowingly preposterous that it gives me a headache just trying to reason with people. That's why I just pray - works so much better :')
Exactly! Like, I believe in adaptation - I'm not saying that every single species of domestic cats was created and put on the ark - good Lord, can you imagine that?! Waaaay too many cats - Noah would've been the first crazy cat man! So I think it's totally plausible that cats "evolved", or better term here, adapted to their climate and then different types of cats "emerged", if you know what I mean. I think that makes sense. But all this "a chicked becomes a dinosaur becomes a monkey becomes a boy" stuff is just so mind-blowingly preposterous that it gives me a headache just trying to reason with people. That's why I just pray - works so much better :')
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the irony
Lia wrote: "Melissa Corn ~bubbles bubbles bubbles~ wrote: "lol evolution is very interesting, I believe there is some evidence to warrant a belief in it but it isn't nearly as conclusive as people think. speci..."Yeah that is pretty much my belief right now. I think that God created a basic type of every animal (dog, bear, cat etc.) with a very large gene pool that was capable of a lot of different adaptions and diversity etc. All the animals today are decedents of those basic types that God created. But just because there is evidence that adaption took place in one type of creature isn't evidence that one creature turned into another one or anything like that.
Melissa Corn ~bubbles bubbles bubbles~ wrote: "Lia wrote: "Melissa Corn ~bubbles bubbles bubbles~ wrote: "lol evolution is very interesting, I believe there is some evidence to warrant a belief in it but it isn't nearly as conclusive as people ..."I agree. Some translations of the Bible still say that God created the beasts of the field and their kinds, etc. The large capability for a kind to adapt into various species is pretty immense. A Kind is able to reproduce with each other and not produce a horrible mutation. I think it's likely that the biblical Kind is roughly equivalent to the classification Order as shown in the link below.
http://a-z-animals.com/reference/anim...
