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message 1: by Lee, High Priest of Shadow (new) - rated it 5 stars

Lee (kiwifirst) | 1511 comments Mod
Glass is sand and sand is glass!
The ant dancing blind as blind ants do
on the lip of the rim and the rim of the lip.
White in the night and grey in the day –
smiling spider she never smiles but smile she does
though the ant never sees, blind as it is –
and now was!


Tales to Scare Children
Malesen the Vindictive (b.?)


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David Sven (gorro) | 2042 comments Mod
The Malazan's and Brood race to make Coral first. Brood's fear is that Laseen may try to take and occupy the city if her army makes it there first

And the Pannion Seer starts to lose the plot. He has his top ranking officers questioning his treatment of Toc.


It's interesting that Toc now thinks he lost his eye not from a piece of falling rock from Moonspawn as he once thought but that Togg was directly responsible somehow

But the wolf chose the wrong man, the wrong body. When he came down to take my eye – that flash of grey, burning, that I’d thought a stone – I’d been whole, young, sound.

The Jaghut Seer attributes the Matron's renewed agitation to the fear of Moon Spawn. He states that according to Gothos Folly, Moonspawn was contructed by the Short Tails along with other sky fortresses as weapons in the war against their K'Chain Che'Malle kin.

‘The Jaghut remember Moon’s Spawn. I alone am in possession of the relevant scrolls from Gothos’s Folly that whisper of the K’Chain Nah’rhuk – the Short-Tails, misbegotten children of the Matrons – who fashioned mechanisms that bound sorcery in ways long lost, who built vast, floating fortresses from which they launched devastating attacks upon their long-tailed kin.

The Seer goes on to say that the fortress collided with Jaghut Ice and was abandoned until The Tiste Andii found and claimed it.


Also according to Envy, the wolf goddess was damaged in the Fall of the Crippled God and was rescued by Envy's sibling who housed her in an Ay until she could recover and awake

My sibling had found the goddess, terribly damaged by the Fall, and needed a warm-blooded place to lay her spirit, so that it could heal. Serendipity. The ay’s pack was dead, whilst she herself was too young to survive in normal circumstances.


And Coll discovers that he may have a three year old son by Lady Simtal floating around

‘Fine!’ Murillio snapped. ‘Here’s what I think! She had a child. She sent it away. Somewhere.


Silvio Curtis | 403 comments Coll may have a child, anyway. We don't know if it's a son.

The rescuer of Fanderay appears to be a brother of Lady Envy (A misguided sibling who'd thought he was being kind), hence not her sister Spite. And, on the simplest reading at least, an Elder God (chapter 7: the touch, Toc realized, of an Elder God).

Quite a cliffhanger that this chapter ends on. Something seems to have gone very wrong with the Mhybe's Silverfox-controlled dreams.

It was also interesting to find out that T'oolan, who is probably my favorite character so far, opposed the Ritual of Tellann at the First Gathering.

The passage from Togg's POV in chapter 1 certainly doesn't make it sound like he was involved in destroying Toc's eye.


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David Sven (gorro) | 2042 comments Mod
Silvio wrote: "The rescuer of Fanderay appears to be a brother of Lady Envy (A misguided sibling who'd thought he was being kind), hence not her sister Spite. And, on the simplest reading at least, an Elder God (chapter 7: the touch, Toc realized, of an Elder God)."

It will be interesting to find out who this brother is.
Earlier is described in Baal'Jagg's memories

Then, standing before her, a figure. Cowled, swathed in roughly woven black wool, a hand – wrapped in leather straps, down to the very fingers – reaching out. Warmth.

Then in Ch 7 of GoTM Fanderay's fall is celebrated (or mourned) with costumes

In the street below a brilliantly painted carriage clattered past, drawn by three white horses in black bridles. The man gripping the reins was robed in black and hooded...

...Murillio leaned against the railing and looked down upon the troupe. 'The bitch Fander's being carted out,' he said. 'Bloody grim rituals, if you ask me.'



Lori Wow good catch! Both of you!

(view spoiler)


message 6: by David Sven, Mortal Sword..Meow (new) - rated it 5 stars

David Sven (gorro) | 2042 comments Mod
@Lori(view spoiler)


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Lee (kiwifirst) | 1511 comments Mod
'Dear lass, you are one after Kruppe's own heart! Pray, resume this non-interrogative question, at length, wax your words into the thickest candle so that I may light an unquenchable flame of love in its honour.'

Kruppe turns on the charm so he can get laid. Eel King!


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Lee (kiwifirst) | 1511 comments Mod
Regarding my comment above (view spoiler)


Silvio Curtis | 403 comments David Sven wrote: "Silvio wrote: "The rescuer of Fanderay appears to be a brother of Lady Envy (A misguided sibling who'd thought he was being kind), hence not her sister Spite. And, on the simplest reading at least,..."

I'd totally forgotten that GotM passage.


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Rob (robzak) | 1057 comments Mod
So I know Silverfox was furious about her mother being carted off by Murillio and Coll.

Then it seems like Hood sends his knight to help them. He appears to be on "Team K'rul" as David said last chapter.

So I wonder: is the end of the chapter something going horribly wrong with Silverfox's plan, or since the account is from The Mhybe's POV, is it just her fears finally catching up with her?

It read to me like she's getting a new body, but it doesn't seem like an enjoyable process at any rate.

I'm inclined to think something went wrong because it seems like she realizes (too late) that she was never in trouble before:

She would not be torn to pieces by wolves. The wolves were gone. No, she knew now that nothing had been as it seemed--it had all been something different, something secret, a riddle she'd yet to work out. And now it was too late. Oblivion had come for her.

Maybe Hood's not on "Team K'rul" after all. Maybe he was just preventing the necromancers from messing up his own plans for The Mhybe.


message 11: by David Sven, Mortal Sword..Meow (new) - rated it 5 stars

David Sven (gorro) | 2042 comments Mod
Rob wrote: "It read to me like she's getting a new body, but it doesn't seem like an enjoyable process at any rate.

I'm inclined to think something went wrong because it seems like she realizes (too late) that she was never in trouble before:"



Keep reading :)


message 12: by Rob, Quick Ben (new) - rated it 4 stars

Rob (robzak) | 1057 comments Mod
David Sven wrote: "Keep reading :)"

Why didn't I think of that? I had been hoping the answer would come to me in my dreams..


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Dara (cmdrdara) | 210 comments Short chapter. My only comment is about Baudlin/Knight of Death. It's interesting that he has swords stuck to his hands and the K'Chain Che'Malle have blades fused to their arms. May mean nothing but it's an interesting similarity to me.


DangerBin | 64 comments As has been said many times before, it's really cool the sense of time for these books. Here that the short-tails had the tech to make the floating cities, and that that tech has been lost.

Yet another comment by me about things I don't remember:
1. Does Coll ever meet his son?
2. Why does Kruppe unleash the love sauce on Hatan. Got to be a reason as mentioned by Lee (other than humour). Very out of character.


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