NBRC: Tower Teams Read 2013, Round II discussion
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Jul 04, 2013 06:38PM
I posted our Scattergories game in the Captain's Group for mods reaction/response to it.
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Jojiwoji wrote: "It's my regret to inform you that I have decided to step down from my role as co-captain.Firstly is the fact that I have not been contributing much of late. There is a lot more work involved the..."
I will miss you .as a moderator ,is good you are still of the Goodreads "hobbit 's team.Jenny
Tea, I gave you Jojiwoji and Jordan and I took over Jenny and Dee when it comes to checking shelves on the spreadsheet. This pretty much splits the team so that your members goals equal 630 and mine have 699. I can take Jordan as well or we can switch members around completely if you want, except I need to keep md since you can't see her shelves.Jordan has one book too short on her shelf which I scanned when I added her to the spreadsheet, All There Is: Love Stories from StoryCorps. I haven't compared her read shelf to her team shelf. Might want to wait on a PM to her until that is checked as well in case more is found.
Did you want to start a new round of the June Hobbit game for July? It will be an easier game for the summer to transition to a more involved Scattergories in August. It would be simple for me to make a copy of the June Hobbit Game spread sheet for July.
Yeah, we could go with second round June Hobbit game. It doesn't ask much of Hobbits. ☺I won't be much responsive in next few days. I'm helping friend with some data entry and that's pretty time consuming and we are on deadline. I'll be here from time to time (during breaks ☺), just not that much and that often. Would it be problem for you do take over spreadsheet update for next week?
We have 15 bouncie cupcakes to exchange.And I created new column in spreadsheet to count all adv books at once for teams. Since I'm now updating from SU I have no idea who got what advantage and where.
Mod
Moderators of Nothing but Reading Challenges wrote: "❀Tea❀, you can look on the very last page of the SU spreadsheet called "BAP - all," and it will give a breakdown of the Team BAPs. Unless you are talking about which individuals got the cupcakes? ..."Thanks. BAP is what I was thinking. ☺ I didn't knew that was there. Never went that far back.
TC I'll switch it back next week. ☺
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That's fine, Tea. When they get split up again, just make the new column's title "Adv Books Chunksters" for the chunkster books I'm sure we will get more of as well in future challenges.I am in the process of listing all the 'chunksters' for possible BAP. I just have your shelf and my own to go. Do you have any preference as to which ones to post first? Maybe start with longest books and work our way down the list. I also thought maybe the slow readers first since they only have a few, and it could make them feel like they are contributing more to the team. Maybe even it out among all members as much as possible? Alphabetically by our user names? The ones I find confirming word counts for first to make it easier on the mods?
Here are the numbers so far:
Melissa-6
Dee-1
Sanz-3
md-0
Ezi-7
Jordan-2
Jenny-4
Jojiwoji-4
Start with bigger ones toward smaller. Countess will have easier work :DAlso, little info, mine are all ebooks, so they tend to have (on GR) different page count (sometimes much bigger) that paper books. Leave mine for last unless you're sure they fit.
I posted the 5 extra categories for cupcakes today, so there should be no more need to track books for the 7% Solution Challenge.
Tea - I made a few changes to the August Scattergories spreadsheet. There is now a summary page so we know how many books we have read toward the challenge. This tab is automatically updated when a new book is added to the player's individual tab.My idea for tracking books on this spreadsheet:
1. Add the book read to the list underneath the player's scattergories chart
2. In the scattergories chart add the word and number of book in the square it is being used for
For example: If I read the book Caleb's Crossing by Geraldine Brooks, which I actually plan to do, I would list it as #1 below and then put Caleb's(1) or Crossing(1) in the first square of my table under title for the letter C. I entered it as an example on my tab if you want to see what I mean but I will delete it when August starts before I actually read it. I also added a few other categories so you could see what it would look like.
Good idea. ☺You can tell I'm still asleep. I went to our 'usual' spreadsheet and couldn't figure out what you're talking about. Then I remembered 'new' spreadsheet. ☺ (now it's bookmarked)
So did we got approved or we are still waiting? Does that LK's 'looks good' is green light? Or just that we don't need to fix anything?
Mod
So, using your form and the letter "C," then and item on a bookcover could be "cookie" and an animal could be "cat"?
Whereas, for "author" or "title" you would count that towards your "Spell-It-Out" letters? (24)
August ScattergoriesWe have a huge variety of speeds in reading from 1 book a month to almost a book a day on our team. We wanted everyone to feel they could participate, so we put no limits on how many items a book could be used for. We have thirteen unique letters in our team name and 16 categories, this makes a potential 208 spots if a fast reader wants to try to complete the whole thing(6 items per book if you can read a book a day). One letter has 16 spots and most likely will take at least 2-3 books to complete a letter, but completing a whole letter is not required in Scattegories.
Team Hobbit Rules for Scattegories
1. Choose a letter or letters from the team name and read a book where you can find items on the list that start with that letter. For example with the letter C, an animal found could be the word 'cat', a color found could be the word 'crimson', an author could be Colleen Coble(2 pts for two Cs)
2. You can find as many as you like out of the same book.
3. It is not necessary to finish a letter, just find a many as you can.
4. Post your book when finished and tell us what categories you found in the book and why they fit. Unlike other challenges where we can just look at your shelf to list your books, you will need to post the book and items since we can not see inside the book.
5. The whole team will need to read 75 books total in the month of August.
That being said, this is what I was thinking for scoring it for the BAP:(most of this sorting done behind the scenes by the captains)
1. There will be a list of books read by each player on their tab as well as the words or pictures they find for each square.
2. If a book is only used as a title or author, it will be considered a Spell-It-Out option. Each player may use up to 3 of these books towards the BAP to reach a team total of no more than 24 books.
3. Books that are used to find other categories separately or in addition to the title or author can be counted as 1 book read. This would be similar to other teams options of reading a blue cover or a book set by water.
Tea - I just posted this in the Finalized August Challenge Thread in the Captain's Group-------------------------------------------------
Planning to post this for the team:
August Scattergories This is the link to the spreadsheet we will use for tracking books/items. There is an example of two books read on the tab labeled 'TC' for you to look at now, but they will be deleted before the challenge starts.
We have a huge variety of speeds in reading from 1 book a month to almost a book a day on our team. We wanted everyone to feel they could participate, so we put no limits on how many items a book could be used for. We have thirteen unique letters in our team name and 16 categories, this makes a potential 208 spots if a fast reader wants to try to complete the whole thing(6 items per book if you can read a book a day). One letter has 16 spots and most likely will take at least 2-3 books to complete a letter, but completing a whole letter is not required in Scattegories.
Team Hobbit Rules for Scattegories
1. Choose a letter or letters from the team name and read a book where you can find items on the list that start with that letter. For example with the letter C, an animal found could be the word 'cat', a color found could be the word 'crimson', an author could be Colleen Coble(2 pts for two Cs)
2. You can find as many as you like out of the same book.
3. Each square can only have one item from one book. For example, you can not find the word 'cheetah' from one book and 'cat' from another and use both of them for animal under C.
4. It is not necessary to finish a letter, just find a many as you can. Each word that starts with the letter gains 1 point. If you find a phrase like 'blue baboon'(2 pts) or an author with the same initials like Colleen Coble(2 pts), you get additional points each time the first letter is the same.
5. Post your book when finished and tell us what categories you found in the book and why they fit. Unlike other challenges where we can just look at your shelf to list your books, you will need to post the book and items since we can not see inside the book.
6. The whole team will need to read 75 books total in the month of August.
7. If you want make a personal goal for this challenge, here are some options to consider:
a. choose a specific letter/letters and try to complete them
b. choose a category/categories and try to complete them
c. pick a number of points to reach and see if you can find enough words to reach it
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Behind the scenes scoring by the captains:
1. There will be a list of books read by each player on their tab as well as the words or pictures they find for each square.
2. If a book is only used as a title or author, it will be considered a Spell-It-Out option. Each player may use up to 3 of these books towards the BAP to reach a team total of no more than 24 books. Adjustments may be made in the number per player if one player only uses books in the Spell-It-Out option form and another player doesn't use any in this manner.
3. Books that are used to find other categories separately or in addition to the title or author can be counted as 1 book read. This would be similar to other teams options of reading a blue cover or a book set by water.
Tea - when the August challenge is officially approved, tell me when you are creating the new thread for it so I can copy and paste the rules into the first post.I like the name Scattered Hobbits or something similar.
I have question about spell-out part.You said we'll use spell-out option for 'non-active' players and spell-out is title or author, right? Why can't we put in both? In case of Dee's book, why did you use only title when author also fits? And we can also check characters on GR page.
Spell-out is title, author, or main character according to mods. We can only use up to 24 of these books. I just meant that we could still use the books from the 'non-active' participants as spell-out options since we can't see what other items they found inside their books. I guess they could also be non-spell-out options by using the covers, I was just trying to make it easier on us by not having to research what else might be used from the book and just staying with title/author.
I did put the author on Dee's book. She has 3 points, one for the title and 1 each for both initials of the author. Since I only used it for title and author, though, I counted it as a spell out book.
I don't think we will have much trouble getting close to 75 books with the actively participating members. I do think we should use their books first since they are going through the extra effort of posting their books specifically for this challenge.
So basically if book fits only upper part it's spell-out, no matter how many times we use it.OK I thought that it's spell-out only if we use it for title or author or character names. Got it now. :D
I would say if it is only used for the first four items in the top part, title/author/female character/male character, then it is a spell out book no matter how many points the member can get for it. It can only get counted as 1 book for the BAP challenge, so for that purpose, it really only counts toward 1 letter. As part of our team challenge, we can give them points for as many letters as they can find.Location and cover in the top part can still be considered a non-spell out book.
All that being said, I am not worried about spell-out books. I have a feeling we won't be needing to use them at all. (except Dee's book, but maybe I can go back and find an item on the cover for her)
You are really good at this game. You have more points than me and I have read twice as many books.
Turtlecollector wrote: "I would say if it is only used for the first four items in the top part, title/author/female character/male character, then it is a spell out book no matter how many points the member can get for i..."I was more checking for Jenny's book. :D She's reading Hunger games, and there we have title, author, both characters, cover and if we stretch it location. :D
As I said I just asked because I wasn't sure what's treated as spell-out. I know we can probably manage it without them, but it's good to have fall back option. And there are always cupcakes to use if needed. I can't believe nobody used them yet. :D
Turtlecollector wrote: "You are really good at this game. You have more points than me and I have read twice as many books."And most of them came from one book. :D
I think it is more fun earning cupcakes than using them. But it is always good to have a couple of backup plans.
Tea, what do you think about me posting a list in our team thread with the number of books our members will need to read based on the preliminary percentages to see who will be interested in participating in Sep?Since more books are required to fit in that first challenge than before, maybe we can give the slower readers the option to choose ahead of time which day they will be reading first if they want? Or just use them for the other two challenges which we can make mostly spell out? I am willing to choose most of my books to fit the first challenge to make it easier for others to participate.
Mod
We should definitely check who wants to participate since we can't just use books from those that aren't playing.Your idea about giving them percentages will give them better idea. And we should give slower readers choice if they want to go with spelling or other challenges. It won't be fair to 'force' them to do one or the other.
Go ahead play with numbers. ☺
I'm signed up for Book a Day challenge, but I'm waiting for September to start it. ☺
Since my parents are coming to my place this weekend and we are going to a concert on Sunday afternoon, I am posting a list here of what I need to get done so hopefully I don't forget anything.To Do List
1. Sunday Update (Sunday morning) done
2. Update Team spreadsheet (Fri/Sat evening, Sun morning)
2a. Team updates updated 8/25 morning
2b. Cupcake page updated 8/24
2c. Chunksters list(Sun/Mon)
3. Update Scattered Hobbits (Fri/Sat/Sun/Mon) updated 8/25 morning
4. Check on September participants (Mon)
4a. Determine how to set up tracking spreadsheet
5. Redeem Chunksters and Triple Threats (Mon)
6. READ BOOKS. I really need to at least get the 4 I have started finished.
Turtlecollector wrote: "Since my parents are coming to my place this weekend and we are going to a concert on Sunday afternoon, I am posting a list here of what I need to get done so hopefully I don't forget anything.To..."
Can I help with something? ☺
As for tracking September challenge, I was thinking we could do it as we did 7% - list books and then fit them into categories. I can make template spreadsheet and send it to you so you can work your magic. ☺
Do you want me to play with redeeming? Since there was rule change I believe some of redeemed chunksters can now fit into TT (Dee's Stephen King?).
As for Scattered Hobbits, we have few books that are same, why don't you 'borrow' mine words? I did few of yours (ideas at least). ☺
I have the chunksters in two different spreadsheets, one of my own for the ones I am still looking up word counts on and the tab in the Team Spreadsheet once I have determined that they will qualify with word counts or have been previously accepted. If you can understand the tab in our team spreadsheet, you can go ahead and exchange chunksters for triple threats. I haven't updated the last total earned yet(it was in my plan for this weekend), so you may want to check the cupcake spreadsheet to see how many we have left. I think I have only redeemed one Triple Threat so far.
Mod
When do you want to start filling spell-out part of Scattegories?
I was going to do it tomorrow morning to give Ezi and Sanz time to update their last books. I asked the mods if there was a specific time tomorrow that I needed to turn it in, but I haven't had a response yet. I have another book that will be finished tonight, so I might do it late tonight instead.
Mod
August Challenge (by Teams) for BAPs Update Due - September 1st, 12:00 noon PDT.
Click on the link and see the deadline in your timezone.
Thank you :DI always need one of those.
On Saturday I will be finishing up the reserved posts on our September Mod Challenge Thread. I will copy and paste the rules into the first post and set up for A to Z challenge. Some members probably will find it easier to see there than using the link I will make to the spreadsheet. I will also pick/list some animals for the Animal Alphabet Challenge. I am pretty sure that was the 3rd challenge the team seemed to want? Do you have ideas/preferences for which animals?
I was thinking we should fit books into the Book a Day challenge first if we can to make sure we get all of those, since the spell out and A to Z will be easy to fill in with the other books.
Turtlecollector wrote: "I was thinking we should fit books into the Book a Day challenge first if we can to make sure we get all of those, since the spell out and A to Z will be easy to fill in with the other books."I agree, especially since that is the only category with fixed minimum books to read.
We should also give them that split-up (or how to call it) of days so they can get better view of them. Did you try to split them up more? I think in few of them I left that or part in one category.
As for animals, something with less vowels? ☺
Did we decide for A-Z are we going with authors or titles?
❀Tea❀ wrote: "Turtlecollector wrote: "I was thinking we should fit books into the Book a Day challenge first if we can to make sure we get all of those, since the spell out and A to Z will be easy to fill in wit..."I reserved a post for each challenge, so I will put the days breakdown in one too.
I haven't done much with the spreadsheet yet. I just looked to see how you had set it up, and I liked the different tabs for each challenge. I was leaving that for Sunday when I have the whole day off since we really don't need it for tracking until at least Sunday night. I think I can get it to add up the books for us from the challenge tabs onto the summary tab. I'll see.
I hadn't see a decision about author or title yet.
I will pick animals with few vowels.☺
I will finish up putting the challenges in the thread tomorrow. I am going to bed now since I am about to fall asleep in front of my laptop.I did change the spreadsheet so that when we enter finished books on the List of Books tab, it will automatically update books read and percentages on the Summary tab. We need to write the player names like this in order for it to work:
TC
Tea
Jojiwoji
Dee
Sanz
Karen
Ezi
Melissa
md
Jenny
Jordan
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