Hedges' Frosh 12-13 discussion
4/15 SSR Response
I am reading Divergent by Veronica Roth, which is similar to Hunger Games in that it's about a futuristic society that is separated. Instead of being separated into districts, this society is separated into factions. The main character was born into a faction, or group, but decides to switch to another group--the Dauntless. Her decision leads her to do things that are scary for her, including jumping off of a train.
"I stand and look over the edge. There is a body on the pavement below us; a girl, her arms and legs bent at awkward angles, her hair spread in a fan around her head. My stomach sinks and I stare at the tracks.Not everyone made it. And even the Dauntless aren't safe." (55)
I selected this passage because even though I won't be jumping off a trains anytime soon, I can relate to how frightening it is to make big decisions. This year, I've had to make several major life decisions, and no matter what choices I made, there is danger. People are always afraid to make changes in their lives because change is scary. I'm only in chapter 8 of this book, but I think the character will be glad she made the choice she did, even though it scared the heck out of her. She's a courageous female character, like Katniss in Hunger Games. I think that's why both books appeal to me so much!
"I stand and look over the edge. There is a body on the pavement below us; a girl, her arms and legs bent at awkward angles, her hair spread in a fan around her head. My stomach sinks and I stare at the tracks.Not everyone made it. And even the Dauntless aren't safe." (55)
I selected this passage because even though I won't be jumping off a trains anytime soon, I can relate to how frightening it is to make big decisions. This year, I've had to make several major life decisions, and no matter what choices I made, there is danger. People are always afraid to make changes in their lives because change is scary. I'm only in chapter 8 of this book, but I think the character will be glad she made the choice she did, even though it scared the heck out of her. She's a courageous female character, like Katniss in Hunger Games. I think that's why both books appeal to me so much!


“We were so tired, past the point of exhaustion and into some deeper, more painful state. Surely we could sleep. All we had to do was not think. We could do that.”
I feel like this passage really describes what it is like going to sleep when you have a lot on your mind. When all you want to do is sleep, but your mind won’t stay still, and you have to put in effort to not think about anything.

"but whenever my father sang, all the birds in the area would fall silent and list."(page 43"
This quote in the book actually makes me feel sad. As if katniss were telling me about her father. And i relate to it because certain things make me think about my grandpa who died 4 years ago. I think everybody could relate to this actually. There is at least one thing that makes people think of someone or a time or place. The Hunger Games is by far my favorite book. I constantly feel like this through-out the whole stor, and even into the second book. You feel personally connected to the characters and actually care about what's going to happen to them.


The world of Alagaesia is engaged in an all out war between the oppressive Empire, and the revolutionary Varden. The Varden needs the support every race in Alagaesia (elves, dwarves, humans, and urgals). The Dwarves are in the process of choosing a new leader (the last one died during the previous battle), and Eragon is on his way to help them pick a leader that is sympathetic to the Varden.
"It was with regret that Eragon left behind the pale sunshine and fresh mountain air for the darkness of the tunnel." This was meaningful to me because i much prefer the open air of mountains, than the enclosed space of a tunnel or cave.


"Listen to me, you son of a swine!" "So much for curiosity. You shall receive five more times more if you dare to tell anyone what you saw! Understood?"
I selected this passage because it shows what lack of respect Germans have for Jews. A Jew caught him sexually abusing a girl. The German decided to hit him with a whip 25 times, over and over. Telling the Jew if he told, he would get 5 times that. 125 whips on his back. I think it's wrong how the Germans treated the Jews, it was decided just like in Number The Stars. Poorly. They barely had enough food to survive. Some died from starvation. The others died from being tortured so much. Working all day to get a piece of bread and hit by a whip. I enjoy reading about this, i'm not sure why. Both these books I enjoy.



"One way or another we all fight for the things we believe in. Doesn't that give us some common ground?"(547)
I decided to pick this passage because of the fact that it applies to everything. All people are similar due to the fact they all fight for what they believe in. People are not so different. This especially applies to the conflict with North Korea at this time.

"To hang a young boy in front of thousands of spectators was no light matter. The head of the camp read the verdict. All eyes were on the child. He was lividly pale, almost calm, biting his lips. The gallows threw its shadow over him" (61).
I chose this passage because it's desrcibing how the Jews feel and how they are direspected. It gives a good visual image of the torturous things the German soldiers did to Jews. I feel like these words express the fear the Jews have and they know everything that's happening to them isn't fair but there is nothing they can do about it.

"They were versatile but hardly mor than average. Both could dribble well enough-but not brilliantly-and both could hit a fair share of their shots but no consistently. Both could pass but nobody would call them unerring- and both could jump-but lacked the height and muschle to dominate".
I selected this paragragh because that's what I feel what coaches think about me in every sport. I'm not tall enough or athletic enough. I still get things done and I consider myself to be decent at sports.



“Many solutions were suggested for this problem, but most of these were largely concerned with the movements of small green pieces of paper, which is odd because on the whole it wasn’t the small green pieces of paper that were unhappy.” (Pg.1)
I selected this passage because I believe that, even though it is told humourously, it really holds true in the world. As many others have said before, money can’t buy happiness, and I think this was just Adams’ contribution to this philosophy. It just helps illustrate how having a sizable sum of money doesn’t really do much for many people, and how the whole reason of why many humans are so sad (money) was created by humans themselves to fix their unhappiness. It conveys a very serious and well thought out viewpoint in a very comedic sarcastic manner, not unlike my own outlook on life and human nature.

I knew he was going to kill me. I did not realize then that I was an animal already dying.
"Why don’t you get up?" Mr. Harvey said as he rolled to the side and then crouched over me.
His voice was gentle, encouraging, a lover’s voice on a late morning. A suggestion, not a command.
I could not move. I could not get up.
When I would not — was it only that, only that I would not follow his suggestion? — he leaned to the side and felt over his head, across the ledge where his razor and shaving cream sat. He brought back a knife. Unsheathed, it smiled at me, curving up in a grin. He took the hat from my mouth.
Tell me you love me," he said.
Gently, I did. then the end came
she was killed in such a bad way and the reason it got to me was because one of my friends died on easter, he was shot in the chest at 14

I am currently reading If We Survive by Andrew Klavan. At the time of the passage, 4 teen American missionaries are being set up to be slaughtered, after helping to rebuild the local school in Costa Verde. They get captured by rebels who overthrow the government and now want to kill all the Americans. The priest has already tried to reason with them and has been shot. Will is being lined up to be shot when he says “ And it was all beautiful and it was all perfect and I wished I could stay forever and see it this way forever because I never would have complained about anything or hated anybody. I would have just been glad to be alive in God’s perfect creation every second of every day”. Page 114 is where this is found. This passage is meaningful to me because not only does it put my life in a whole new light, but I feel this is realistic as to what would run through my mind. I think I would feel angry at everybody because I would have been a few hours from home, and now I’m set up to be slaughtered. I would be full of rage, and I wish I could be as calm and peaceful as Will is in this passage. I would be too scared to try and escape and not be able to succeed at the situation that was at hand for him; to help his friends survive. That is why this is meaningful to me.

“Stop right now, or you aint gonna see tomorrow.” (73) This quote is pretty much the meaning of this book. Everywhere you turn there is action happening and people dying. In this particular quote the main character is being attacked by one of the other boys at the Glade, Ben. Alby is threatening to shoot ben and later does.

"I'd always thought of surrender as a giving up. it wasn't. To surrender deeply, truly, was to give in to an idea that hadn't occured me until this kiss: that your admiration for somebody could be as great as your adoration of her. It moved me, her trust in me, her faith in herself, her belief in us." (291)
I chose this because it inspires me to never really give up. You just give in to ideas that leave you happy, and leave other happy.

"He woke to the sight of his own breath misting in the cold morning air. When he moved, his bones ached. Ghost was gone, the fire burnt out. Jon reached to pull aside the cloak he'd hung over the rock, and found it stiff and frozen. He crept beneath it and stood up in a forest turned to crystal.
The pale pink light of dawn sparkled on branch and leaf and stone. Every blade of grass was carved from emerald every drip of water turned to diamond. Flowers and mushrooms alike were coats of glass. Even the mud puddles had a bright brown sheen."
I can relate to this quotation, because I have spent many nights camping, including some with makeshift shelters. Many times I have woken up to everything frozen and still, and just like Martin describes later, the world thaws again as everyone rises and the day begins. Because of my personal experiences, I feel a personal connection to Jon and what he is feeling in this passage.



I am reading The Dark Tower: V: Wolves of the Calla.
The quotation I am using is "Do you come for aid and succor?" on page 109. This line speaks to me because it is quite warm but at the same time, has dark implications. This passage is about applying aid in dark times, when supplying this aid causes one to do dark things for it.
I picked this because it applies to a darker, grey side of life. The life where no choice seems completely right. But you just have to attempt to hold on to humanity that we have.

"you dont remember being shot" (77)
I chosethisqotation because it reminds me of how to many people die. and i dont like it when people die. Th character in this book is very self independent and very trustworthy.

"she was very different she had changed, for a moment i had been paranoid and actually thought that i was from Aliens actually alieans." the reason i added that passage was because he finally saw his mother and things were different because he can jump and he hasnt seen her since she left.

The passage is, "Matt, he said that a giftie makes a person like you best of all.
Kira sighed in exasperation. 'No that's not the way it is. A gift--' she gave up. 'Neer mind. Tell us where he went.'
'He be getting you some blue!'
'Blue? What do you mean?'
'Dunno, miss. But Matt, he said it. He be saying they got blue yonder, and he be getting you some."
I chose this because we don't always understand things right now, but later when we've listened to everything, we get it. In Kira's case, a present. And I really like her present too.
I am currently reading "Killing Floor" by Lee Child. The main character, Jack Reacher, is being falsely accused of murdering a man in the small town of Magrave. On pages 51-52, Jack Reacher thinks to himself, "I was worried. I felt like somebody in a kid's book who falls down a hole. Finds himself in a strange world where everything is different and weird." I chose this passage because it explains how humans feel when they find themselves in need of help. I have felt this way many times, but just knowing that it happens to everyone can help motivate you to perservere through the hard times. Make the most of your problems and never give up.

"Chldren still existed, of course, but they'd become, in Postman's wod, 'adultified'. I was ten years old when Postman published his book, and in many respects my biography aligns with his unflattering generational portrait. In Postman's opinion the rising divorce rate indicated a 'precipitous falling off in the commitment of adults to the nurturing of chilren.' (page 206)".
This paragraph is meaningful to me because I have a few younger siblings, and I don't want them to become desensitized and adultified when they're young. When Hohn mentions how children can become as miniature adults, I become disappointed in the adults of today. Because they are unwilling to raise their children the right way and more willing to set them in front of age-inappropriate technology, their children will not have as much of a childhood or understanding of how to raise their children in return. I think it's interesting how he mentions Postman's book in his article, mostly because it shows how much a simple plastic spill can change how childhood is thought of.

"That's not true at all. It's not the face, but the expressions on it. It's not the voice, but what they say. It's not how you look like in that body, it's what you do with it. You are beautiful."
I love this quote because Wanda is convinced the only reason he loves her is because of how she looks, she knows that he couldnt possibly love an alien. what he is saying is that what he loves about her isnt what she is, but who she is.


“Haven’t you ever noticed that life is like a series of movies? Well you have adventures. All start out with troubles, but then you admit your problems and become a better person by working really hard, which fertilizes the happy ending and allows it to bloom- just like the end of all the Rocky films, which are my favorite films, even though I have sworn off movies until Nikki returns, because now my own life is the movie I will watch, and well, it’s always on.”
In this excerpt from the story, you can tell that Pat is a little different. He tells the counselor that he will not watch any movies until his wife and him are back together which, in his mind, will occur very soon. He doesn’t see things for what they really are, but just wants a happy ending.. A silver lining.


"Hitler turned his crazy pipe dreams into the deaths of millions if people and a living nightmare for millions more...one good reason for studying Hitler: he forces us to ask questions about ourselves."
I chose this passage because I love history and I love to learn about big historical figures (including this jerk). I just have no idea how someone could have so much hate and so much anger to do this, but it's important to me because as the quote says, he forces us to ask questions about ourselves. We get angry, but we can't get as angry as this mad man got. We as a generation must learn our world's history so that we do not make the same mistakes.

A very meaningful passage from All These Lives would be this one from page 243: ““There aren't guarantees on anything. I'm sure you've had plenty of time
to think about this, but there are millions of ways to die. Millions and millions. And
at any moment, any- thing could go wrong and it could all be over. For any of us.” Though Dani was a really hard character to like—though I could relate to her--, sometimes she meandered from her egotistical, conceited mindset and said some really deep things such as this. I find this very striking simply because I relate to her. I had a family member taken from me and Dani feels that her sister might be taken from her. She realizes that life is short and nothing is for certain. I have learned that lesson as well, and it is very moving.


" One April day, on a morning just like every other morning, I had a sudden realization: I was in danger of wasting my life. As I stared out the rain-spattered window of a city bus, I saw that the years were slipping by. "What do I want from life, anyway?" I asked myself. " Well... I want to be happy." But I had never thought about what made me happy or how I might be happier."
I really liked this paragraph because it shows how you can be anywhere and realize that you want to make changes in your life. Obviously, I won't be doing a happiness project because I am very happy as is. But, it is very nice to get to see something from someone elses perspective.

“There comes a time when the world no longer needs heroes. And then the true hero knows to walk away.” (11)
I selected this quote because it has stayed in the back of my mind the entire time while I have been reading this book. I feel like I try to do everything I plan and organize and I try to be the “hero” of tough decisions. I think that this really means, sometimes I need to take a step back and let the world do its job and let whatever in store for me happen when it happens because it is out of my control.


I'm reading Tuck Everlasting, written by Natalie Babbitt. This quote is important to me because its true that everything seems more interesting when you don't have it or it isnt 'yours'. I really like this quote because I can relate to it a lot. When you dont have something you're more curious and you really want it, but when you do have something you're eager to know more about it.



Now, the reason I like this passage so much is because Hazel knows she’s strong, she has survived a rare cancer and nothing can stop her. She knows that if Augustus is really into her he will work his butt off to prove it to her. I like that she respects herself.


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"oleander time" she said. "lovers who kill eachother now will blame it on the wind" she held up her large hand and spread the fingers, let the dryness lick through.My mother was not herself at the time of the Santa Anas I was twelve years old and I was afraid for her.
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"you should get some sleep," i offered.
"I never sleep" she said.
I sat next to her , and we stared out at the city that hummed and glittered like a computer chip deep in some unknowable machine,holding it's secret like a poker hand. ....Her beauty was like the edge of a very sharp knife.I rested my head on her leg. She smelled like violets. " We are the wands" she said. "We strive for beauty and balance, the sensual over the sentimental."
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" We recieved our coloring from Norsemen" she said.
" Hairy savages who hacked their gods to pieces and hung the flesh from trees. We are the ones who sacked rome. Fear only feeble old age and death in bed. Don't forget who you are"
" I promise," i said.
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What I like about this passage is that it shows alot about the relationship between Astrid and Her mother. How her mother majority of the time speaks through poetry.And how reserved Astrid is, especially around her mother.This passage is what made me more interested in this book.


In this book it gave me a new meaning to life and made me rethink everything I have learned about religion. This book talks about different religions, but mainly focuses on Christianity. A lot of people are mean towards each other because of what religion they are, and this book really explains why and why people believe that there problems will be solved by god. "God gives us a path of life" pg.98. This passage means a lot to me as to why people still believe in god. It has a lot of saying in that passage because I wonder why people believe so strong in god, and this book and quote gave me the answer. The main reason people still beeline strongly in god is because it gives them a reason and something to do and follow in their life and feel like they will never be alone and that's wonderful, but for a person like me and being opened it makes me think clearly about that and read between the lines.
Connor wrote: "I am currently reading The Cardinal of the Kremlin. I have not read very much of my book so far but I will attempt to explain this. In this book the Soviet Union and the United States of America ar..."
SO true, Connor! I love that you are tying your reading to current events :)
SO true, Connor! I love that you are tying your reading to current events :)

In this book a basket ball player's girlfriend was shot and he is trying to find out who did it. He is getting tired of trying so this is my quote "don't give up on me kid". This is meaningful to me cause you should never give up nomatter how tough something gets.


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