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Correct.
As Amazon is a legitimate source for book data now, includes this Costumer Images from their site?
It would come under fair usage Tessanie. You're not using it for financial gain, you're using it to create a reference article which is allowed under fair usage. If a book owner does object then Good reads deals with the deletion requests.
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Turns out that's not really helpful when the image is hosted by a bookseller. Taking it from them is a problem.
Amazon is the only exception: https://www.goodreads.com/topic/show/...
Using a scan or photo of a book that a librarian owns is allowed. The Librarian Manual says so. Costumer images on Amazon's website are scans or photos but not made by a librarian.
Is it allowed to use these costumer images too as these covers are from Amazon?
Esme wrote: "Using a scan or photo of a book that a librarian owns is allowed. The Librarian Manual says so. Costumer images on Amazon's website are scans or photos but not made by a librarian.
Is it allowed to use these costumer images too as these covers are from Amazon? "
According to Amazon Content Submission Agreement if you upload anything to Amazon you give Amazon (and presumably Goodreads as an Affiliate) the right to sub-let your house and borrow your car.
License Grant for Materials. You hereby grant to Amazon and its Affiliates a worldwide, nonexclusive, royalty-free, perpetual right and license to (a) reproduce, distribute, transmit, publicly perform and publicly display the Materials, in whole or in part, in any manner and Media, (b) modify, adapt, translate and create derivative works from the Materials, in whole or in part, in any manner and Media, and (c) sublicense the foregoing rights, in whole or in part, to any third party, with or without a fee.
Amazon covers are acceptable as Amazon is (now) the parent company of GR. As I understand Amazon's Terms of Service, the images provided by customers are uploaded with rights granted over to Amazon as part of the process.
If it's your material Banjomike but they can't claim right to a book cover unless the author uploads it. It's always seemed a dubious claim that logically is unenforceable but is put there to try and avoid copyright infringement.( how can I upload a photo belonging to an author which isn't my photo and they claim rights to use it ) Silly as no one would enforce such a claim in a court of law.Esme the original post was questioning the legal rights of a librarian who uploads a scan regardless of what the manual says. Technically we shouldn't be.
They don't claim a right to the cover, but to the IMAGE of the cover. Seems a small difference, but legally it's the crux.
Banjomike wrote: "According to Amazon Content Submission Agreement if you upload anything to Amazon you give Amazon (and presumably Goodreads as an Affiliate) the right to sub-let your house and borrow your car.":)
Thank you, Banjomike & Emy.
Jozef wrote: "Esme the original post was questioning the legal rights of a librarian who uploads a scan regardless of what the manual says."
Yes, I know. This thread is from last year as Amazon was going away as a data source, I guess. It seems fitting with my question too. Sorry for messing up the topics.
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Exactly.
Esme wrote: "This thread is from last year as Amazon was going away as a data source, I guess. It seems fitting with my question too. "This thread is from April this year, just after Amazon bought Goodreads.
they can't claim a right to the image of the cover as its copy righted. taking a photo of a copy righted image doesn't release it from the copy right.
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In any case, I see no point in continuing this debate. Goodreads policy regarding covers is what it is.
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This is a general question about uploading book covers. Just to make sure that I understood the pinned (and closed) topic about sourcing books.
A good way to add book covers is by scanning a copy one owns?
I am not sure, if this is allowed because I don't own any copyright of the cover art that I could scan, but it will have my name as source written in the librarian log.
Thanks for your help! I am new to goodreads.