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What is your favourite way vampires are portrayed? Name the book! *MAY CONTAIN SPOILERS!*
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Bill wrote: "Diane wrote: "Diane wrote: "A lot of authors have deviated from the traditional model as well."Bill wrote:
Here's the kicker, though: None of them have deviated from the leech's feed on humans. ..."
LOL changing arguments are we, but okay I'll bite.
Nope, Angel and Spike got on the vegetarian vampire train too.
Go ahead and google it. Oh and you still have to prove that those other vampires can't live on animal blood alone.
The ones in Dark Shadows can live on either.
And it's unclear if the ones in Underworld can or cannot, but the complaint was the taste and not the nutritional value (Viktor drank livestock blood, not cattle=human blood); sooo it's leaning towards they could live on cattle but they just don't want to.
And in vampire chronicles it was also unclear, rat blood tasted awful and it was less nutritious (p.s. it was Louis who was the one devoted to the rat diet though Lestat introduced it to him).
Oh and other other vampires on that wikipedia list too. Please include folklore ones that aren't listed, romanian vampires I've heard also target the livestock. Chupacabras are also considered vampires in some places.
Bill wrote: There may be vampires in later books, but...
HOLY CROW! Probably the closest thing to acknowledgement that there are vampires in the twi-series from you. I'll take it!
James, Victoria and Laurent are in Twilight. They are not vegetarian.
FACT.
Though for the record, I've also come across vampires who feed on stuff like tomatoes and the color red. I'm not sure if the tomato thing is mostly from asia or if it's present in western portrayals as well. Just thought I'd mention that.
The crux of the issue is not one of whether Vampires ever eat the blood of animals or not -clearly Angel and Spike both do at some point in their careers, as mentioned - it's whether or not the Vampire has the desire to feed off of humans and more crucially, whether this concept is central to the narrative. In both Anne Rice and Buffy it is, in Twilight Ed Cullen is made a vegetarian vampire so that the author can sideline the concept of vampirism. In Buffy, Angel is initially muted as a Vampire figure precisely so the dark sexual concepts related to vampirism can rear their ugly head and drive the emotion and plot of the show later on. Spike, of course, starts out preying on humans and then becomes muted because he is controlled by humans. Regardless his sexual cravings and bloodlust do not dissipate.Ed and Bella make a pact not to explore their sexuality throughout the books. This completely and entirely misses the point of the concept of Vampirism. Therefore, with Bill I proclaim Ed Cullen Not a Vampire
Alex wrote: "The crux of the issue is not one of whether Vampires ever eat the blood of animals or not -clearly Angel and Spike both do at some point in their careers, as mentioned - it's whether or not the Vam..."
Second the motion.
Second the motion.
The Thirst series by Christopher Pike, Sita has been my favorite vampire. That was until I just read the Blood Thirst series by Stephanie Jackson. Her Jaxon family of vamps have become my fave.The Undead Heart
I like any book with classic vampires the kind that drink human blood and don't sparkle in the sun, can be staked, are scared of crucifixes and hate garlic :) that's my kind of vampire
Olivia wrote: "Michelle wrote: "The Thirst series by Christopher Pike, Sita has been my favorite vampire. That was until I just read the Blood Thirst series by Stephanie Jackson. Her Jaxon family of vamps have be..."Which book? Thirst series by Pike or Blood Thirst series?
Sita is portrayed as being one of the first ever made and now the last on Earth. She is the typical human blood drinker, yet she is good in all other ways.
The Jaxon's drink animal blood and are good.
Both series are similar in some qualities, like can stand sunlight, strength, time travel.
I would recommend them, they are good books.
Bookaholic wrote: "Vampire Academy! Dimitri and Adrian, Swooon! :P"Yes! my fav vamp series is most defenitely Vampire academy.
A sliver kiss. Is really good, along with the movie lost boys!
the Drake chronicles!! ANd TMI is really good, love the vamps xDAnd Blood of Eden
Bill wrote: "Did I ever say a vampire never drank animal blood? Nope. I said they all drink human blood. Every one of them. They all live on it.Who doesn't drink human blood? Edward and his family.
Ergo, Edw..."
Bunnicula drank veggie juice.
just sayin....
Alex wrote: "The crux of the issue is not one of whether Vampires ever eat the blood of animals or not -clearly Angel and Spike both do at some point in their careers, as mentioned - it's whether or not the Vam..."Very well put. I'd also like to add that, if Spike and Angel really did abstain from preying on humans later on, they were never real vampires to begin with (although, given the prevalence of sorcery and witchcraft in Buffy's world, it is possible that they had outside help altering their diets... which would make them not real vampires later on, anyway).
Which brings up something that bugs the hell out of me:
"Vegetarian vampires."
What brain-damaged short-bus moron coined THIS turd? They need to be beaten into a permanent coma, and anyone who actually uses this phrase needs to be scrubbed from the gene pool to avoid permanent long-term damage.
Aside from the fact that they aren't real vampires, these leeches aren't eating vegetables... they're eating animals, which technically makes them "carnivores" (or, if you want to get seriously scientific, "hemophages," taken from the movie Ultraviolet).
"Vegetarian vampires" makes as much sense as "virgin porn star." It just reeks of lazy and cretinous in ways that it's physically painful to contemplate. Use "anti-cannibal" instead, because that's close to what you need to convey without sounding like Mom and Dad were first cousins.
Mochaspresso wrote: "Bill wrote: "Did I ever say a vampire never drank animal blood? Nope. I said they all drink human blood. Every one of them. They all live on it.
Who doesn't drink human blood? Edward and his famil..."
That's cause he's a RABBIT, duh!
The Cullens and the Denalis aren't vampires. All the other, red-eyed, ones ARE vampires cause they drink human blood.
Who doesn't drink human blood? Edward and his famil..."
That's cause he's a RABBIT, duh!
The Cullens and the Denalis aren't vampires. All the other, red-eyed, ones ARE vampires cause they drink human blood.
Definately the Southern Vampire/True Blood vampires for me...
I liked the vampires in the Morganville series...
I've enjoyed Interview with the vampire. although VD was too close and I prefer the series more than the book.
it's the other side of the story from the famous Bram stoker's Dracula , That book was perfect I read Dracula but after reading James's Book I loved it a lot it was the perfect dracula :)) he is the best !
but also the series of immortals after dark
was very good especially Lothaire...
also the dark hunter series it's so cool but no one can deny is Twilight .... is on the top vampires and werewolves I just love the way Mayer describes vampires
Ingrid wrote: "Interview with a Vampire - but I preferred the movie to the book (sorry Anne Rice!). I also LOVE the vampires in the Vampire Twins books by Janice Harrell."I loved the movie too :D I can't believe I am saying that but the book was somehow boring and I wasn't tempted to read the series
my favourite is Vampire academies way how you can forcibly turn someone into a vampire
buffy the vampire slayer,blood + and hellsing..vampires that are evil bloodsuckers and are in no way looking for redemption or salvation; now that's my kind of vampy vamp story
Brooke wrote: "Mochaspresso wrote: "Bill wrote: "Did I ever say a vampire never drank animal blood? Nope. I said they all drink human blood. Every one of them. They all live on it.Who doesn't drink human blood..."
Of course Bunnicula was a rabbit. That's the point. The Bunnicula books deviate from whatever so-called "vampire canon" others are subscribing to. All vampires in literature do not drink human blood because Bunnicula was a vampire rabbit that drained the juice out of veggies and never once drank blood or needed to. The books also have a talking dog and a talking cat.
I could be a zombie "zealot" and say that only zombies that resemble the creatures in Romero's films are "real zombies" and therefore, the creatures in "Warm Bodies" were not in fact zombies. They were actually humans afflicted with an undisclosed illness or virus that was curable by love. Or I could be an even bigger purist and say that Romero's films are actually the fake zombies because even he deviated drastically from the African and Haitian voodoo roots of "true" or "real" zombies.
The point is that there are actually books out there that depict vampires in different ways. I don't think it is possible to make definitive statements of what traits a fictional creature can and cannot possess.
Olivia wrote: "Ali wrote: "my favourite is Vampire academies way how you can forcibly turn someone into a vampire"
That is really cool. how do u forcible change somone into a vamp.?"
You BITE them, duh!
That is really cool. how do u forcible change somone into a vamp.?"
You BITE them, duh!
The Night Huntress series by, Jeaniene Frost.
Mochaspresso wrote: "Bunnicula was a vampire rabbit..." No, he wasn't.
It was implied, but never stated, that it had some vampiric powers, but it was never explicitly stated that it was a "vampire rabbit." Quite the opposite, in fact, was true according to the dog (whose name escapes me at the moment).
You can't use an orange to prove that another orange is an apple.
It would be a toss up between The Vampire Diares and Southern Vampire Mysteries..probably lean towards SVM :-)
i like the way the mortal instruments portrayed vampires...they didnt sparkle :)
Darren Shan Saga! Definitely a must read! Has amazing vampires in it.
the vampire in the TMI books
the last vampire, the evernight series and the vampire diaries! loved the vampires in them all, especially Evernight and for the vampire diaries not so much the books as the series :)
I prefer traditional vampires. They should be scary, not sparkle in the light.
Olivia wrote: "I really liked the vampires in the Skulduggery books! anyone else? they're not like other vampires, these are feral creatures who kill anything in sight!!!"They have to be the best. Ordinary people in the day, but at night they pull off their skins and become fanged albino monsters, killing anything they come across.
Twilight vampires are my favs
Definitely has to be Lestat and Loui for me.They are different in the book, but Lestat is even more cruel.
Although the Nathaniel Cade series is actually quite good, Cade as a character i like because he knows what he is and fights it.
Twilight.. Meh, just too unreal for me they just seem like teenagers that are strong and fast. I really hated the Sparkly thing.
Yes i have read the books, i wanted to know what all the hype was about, the stories themselves aren't too bad just a bit too mushy love for me.
I like Nicholas Sparks though, WEIRD!!!
Just wondering if anyone has read the Chelsea Quinn Yarbro vampire series about le Comte Saint-Germain? It started with Hotel Transylvania (published in 1978).I liked the series (I read a few, maybe not all) as the Count was intelligent and while he did drink blood, he rarely had to be violent to get it.
Supposedly the character was based on a real person who never appeared to age...
Deffinately 'The Mortal Instruments'. I mean, Raziel- come on! I really don't like the portrayals in books like 'Twilight'. The 'Dracula' type vampires are much better.
L.J Smith vampires!!!
I like the vampire diaries but my fav is twilight
I really didn't understand the twilight craze.The books were mediocre at best, the vampirism wasn't particularly good. I did enjoy some parts of the books where it wasn't the Cullens mainly though.
The best of the vampirism came from the The Volturi. They were more the embodiment of vampires as they're supposed to be.
Yes i did read all the books, so i can say this is my opinion about them, all the trollers/teenagers about to start complaining we're allowed our own opinions.
I've tried Vampire Diaries too, but just couldn't get into it.
What i've seen of Mortal Instruments i wont even try reading, that just looks far too much like Twilight with a different name/species.
Bill wrote:
Here's the kicker, though: None of them have deviated from the leech's feed on humans. Ever.
They may ..."
None of them have. You aren't paying any attention, or lack critical reading comprehension skills (which is odd... this is a site dedicated to reading books).
Every single vampire mythology you linked has vampires feeding on humans... except Eddie and his gang.
They might snag the occasional rat to drain in a critical situation (Lestat revived himself after his century-plus hibernation by draining underground critters) but they feed on humans.
As in, humans are their main meal.
As in, they need to feed on human blood to live.
As in, Eddie and his family are NOT vampires.
There may be vampires in later books, but...
There are no vampires in Twilight .
You can keep arguing with the closest thing here to a vampire "expert" (as in, I've likely read more vampire novels and seen more vampire movies than you have years on this planet), or you can just accept the fact (yes, FACT) that you are wrong.