The BURIED Book Club discussion
May I ADD please?
Garima wrote: "June Akers Seese"TOO recent. Not (yet) BURIED.
But she's Dalkey, so please, Good Morning folks!!!! someone of interest for our DA clique.
Ali wrote: "Marquis de Pelleport?"Were he not BURIED, he'd still belong in the THEN, NOT NOW thread, or whatever I called it. BUT, fact is that not much more than a crowbar's been cracked into his sarcophagus. ADD please.
How did there happen to be a man named Anne? (Anne Gedeon, Marquis de Pelleport). That seems odd in itself, unless the book cover intends to imply a second author of the book?
Zadignose wrote: "How did there happen to be a man named Anne? (Anne Gedeon, Marquis de Pelleport). That seems odd in itself, unless the book cover intends to imply a second author of the book?"'tis no error on the cover, as Anne's francowiki page shows. The French have always been a more progressive society than wee anglophiles.
"Marquis de Pelleport" was a title, not his name—there was a WWI hero who also held that title. Other titles for the individual we are concerned with here were "Lafitte Pellepore, Pelleporc, Pelleport, Belleport."
Also, our man Anne's chief excavator Robert Darnton said in his introduction to the book that Gedeon was "according to everyone who met him, a scoundrel, a reprobate, a rogue, a thoroughly bad hat" and his ilk lived like "Rameau s nephew, not Rameau. " ++a few copies of this book are available at a deep discount on alibris right now...
May I suggest adding Dambudzo Marechera?
Tia wrote: "May I suggest adding Dambudzo Marechera?"...if you can find out who called him "Africa's response to Joyce" then there's no problem. Either he's not got a lot of stuff or its ill-represented on goodreads ;; (The House of Hunger is not-BURIED, 'technically') ;; ; But by the principle of proportionality, I'll say ADD, please.
MJ wrote: "To add later (maybe):Gillian Freeman
Paul Abelman
Peter Buckman"
Yes please. Request that they be vet'd for that famously ambiguous category, "relevance", before ADD'ing ; or after ADD'ing. As long as they be literary...
Ella Cara Deloria—native american who worked to transfer her culture's oral history into print in the early 20th century. she committed stories to memory and later transcribed them, not unlike Homer.asking for an exemption on the "purely literary" stipulation here as the entire language (Lakota) which she worked with was in the process of eradication before she picked up her pen.
Rand wrote: "Ella Cara Deloria—native american who worked to transfer her culture's oral history into print in the early 20th century. she committed stories to memory and later transcribed them, not unlike Home..."Waterlily, of course, is not BURIED, but the rest of her stuff clearly is ;; and I suspect that no literary exemption is required. ADD please.
Friedrich Durrenmatt? Tommaso Landolfi?
Valery Larbaud?
Walter Mehring ( YES, YES, YES!!! )
Curzio Malaparte???
Nirad C. Chaudhuri?
Benedetto Croce?
Eugenio Montale?
* batting eyelashes *
Nathan "No Reviews" wrote: "Tia wrote: "May I suggest adding Dambudzo Marechera?"...if you can find out who called him "Africa's response to Joyce" then there's no problem. Either he's not got a lot of stuff or its ill-rep..."
Having spent exactly <5 minutes exhaustively scanning the first page of Google results for the man behind the quote, I found nada y pues nada else. THAT seems fitting, somehow...
Tia wrote: "Nathan "No Reviews" wrote: "Tia wrote: "May I suggest adding Dambudzo Marechera?"Having spent exactly <5 minutes exhaustively scanning the first page of Google results for the man behind the quote, I found nada y pues nada else. THAT seems fitting, somehow... "
To quote myself I'll say "ADD please." And I mean really soon cuz if you don't, Ali's gunna get apparent credit for the ADD.
Tia wrote: Friedrich Durrenmatt? -- not even close
Tommaso Landolfi? -- ADD please -- anything in English aside from Gogol's Wife and Other Stories?
Valery Larbaud? -- ADD please (I saw a Sun & Moon edition)
Walter Mehring -- ADD please ;; and the rest of you, hear here : The Lost Library: The Autobiography of a Culture , which sounds a little like the Benjamin (?) piece about unpacking his library.
Curzio Malaparte -- He would need to have a case built arguing that the good stuff is BURIED -- he's got two big hits here, Kaputt and The Skin ;; a lot of not-english-language writers are in this situation ;; I'm still working on whether or not to include writers like our gentleman here. The key question is, Is the REALLY good stuff been covered o'er with dirt?
Nirad C. Chaudhuri? -- maybe not. His The Autobiography of an Unknown Indian is not BURIED ;; and for essays, the question is not whether its important to hear WHAT s/he says BUT whether the HOW (style, prose, etc) of the saying should spread far and wide. Also, a lot of his stuff is too recent ; we'll need important, major, world shattering stuff published (originally) pre circa 1985 (an arbitrary date).
Benedetto Croce? -- Not buried. The people who need to read him, read him when they need to. [see my comments about specialists on another thread just a bit earlier today....]
Eugenio Montale -- Do NOT add. Eugenio looks pretty healthy to me. Any time I see a poet whose collected or selected volume has 30+ ratings, it's very unlikely I can adjudge them BURIED.
* batting eyelashes * -- ADD please.
and in general and as a favor to this hump-back'd authoritarian-librarian and wanna-be CUR=a=TOR, please use the "add book/author" function to create links because in this day and age, expecting aging bureaucrats to copy-n-paste, copy-n-paste,
copy-n-paste, copy-n-paste, copy-n-paste, copy-n-paste, copy-n-paste, is just asking too too much.
What do you think about Alonso de Ercilla y Zúñiga?His book La Araucana., in its various editions, has 74 ratings, 4 reviews. The first English language edition is about to be released on November 1st, as The Araucaniad.
His book is a 16th epic, in verse, about the conquest of Chile. Wiki refers to it as a national epic of the Kingdom of Chile, and a major work of the Spanish Golden Age.
I don't know whether many Chileans today read or care about it. It has so far had no impact in the English speaking world.
So, perhaps it hasn't had a chance to be buried yet, as it is just about to emerge... hmmm... then again, I don't think Vanderbilt University Press has published many best sellers, and they didn't even bother to include this title in their Fall catalog.
Zadignose wrote: "16th [cent] epic, in verse"Say no mor'. Say no mor'.
ADD please.
All hail Vanderbilt University Press!
I'm kind of busy for the next 15-20 days or so ,therefore,I may not be able to make the threads right away but these are the writers:Jeremias Gotthelf
Came to know of him as I'm reading his The Black Spider right now for the Halloween mood.
And there is Nadezhda Mandelstam
Learnt abt her from Brodsky's intro for A Tomb for Boris Davidovich.
So let me know if they are addable or maybe other good folks here could add them for me,pls.
Mala wrote: "Jeremias GotthelfAnd there is Nadezhda Mandelstam"
Especially asking if any of our Swiss readers know anything about Gotthelf beyond his The Black Spider. It appears not much else is translated?
And for Mandelstam, can anyone speak to her work beyond Hope Against Hope. It seems thatHope Abandoned might need some Flesh support from readers and Spade=Wielders. ....
Although I'm seeing Jonathan's five=stars for Hope Abandoned and it seems to me that we need to abandon its abandonment -- can we ADD please this Hope Abandoned? Yes I say again I say yes.
Yeah - hope abandoned is wonderful, though made me very sad. She is a great writer, well deserving of more readers
I'll create Kay Boyle thread soon.Anyway, Jeffrey reviewed a book yesterday by Etienne Leroux. He looks buried.
Garima wrote: "Anyway, Jeffrey reviewed a book yesterday by Etienne Leroux. He looks buried."Yes please. And I notice an unread Penguin from him too ;; unread Penguins are fantastic!
To a Dubious Salvation: A Trilogy of Fantastical Novels. And your assistance with identifying what is available in English will assist those of us missing the Dutch and Afrikaans.
Nathan "N.R." wrote: "unread Penguins are fantastic! To a Dubious Salvation: A Trilogy of Fantastical Novels. And your assistance with identifying what is available in English will assist those of us missing the Dutch and Afrikaans. "
I noticed that one too and yes! finding about English translations is my main concern. Shall try to find out though bear with me a little. Busy time in real life.
Petron by Hugh Sykes Davies, believed to be the first English surrealist novel. Going for a cheap £500 on abe. Author is otherwise un-notable and not ADDworthy.
MJ wrote: "Petron by Hugh Sykes Davies, believed to be the first English surrealist novel. Going for a cheap £500 on abe. Author is otherwise un-notable and not ADDworthy."Good luck with that one. It would appear they used the vaporizing ray on him ;; not much there to dig up. But what bones you can find -- PLEASE ADD.
A sub-classification of the BBC for buried books by authors who are otherwise un-notable might be in order. Some of the authors added have only one or two texts of relevance amidst dross or drips.
MJ wrote: "A sub-classification of the BBC for buried books by authors who are otherwise un-notable might be in order. Some of the authors added have only one or two texts of relevance amidst dross or drips."I think I follow you. As an instance, Sulzberger https://www.goodreads.com/topic/show/... wrote one novel. The rest of his stuff was journalism. Only the novel interests here.
It's a necessary consequence of the way I've got things organized. In truth, we are interested in BOOKS, not AUTHORS, but so if things were straight, each individual BOOK would have its own entry. In the case of something like Sulzberger or the situation you mention, that's sort of the task of the ADD'er, to indicate which books are of interest among the dross and dregs ;; this sorting is sort of the task of the Spade=Wielders ourselves.
So, yes, in my book :: author = book(s) ;; not a subject of biography.
Any thoughts?
With someone like that who seems otherwise unremarkable, I think we should definitely make note of them but perhaps they don't need full on threads until someone has actually confirmed a work or two to be worthwhile. Because though much of my discovery is author-driven, it seems like it'll save sorting time to check some of them out before getting overly invested.
Nathan "N.R." wrote: "So, yes, in my book :: author = book(s) ;; not a subject of biography. "That seems fair > some tiny biographical info followed by a link to the notable work(s). There are threads on here that could use pruning and directing readers to the important works instead of big clumps of bio info.
MJ wrote: "A sub-classification of the BBC for buried books by authors who are otherwise un-notable might be in order. Some of the authors added have only one or two texts of relevance amidst dross or drips."I think that describes the recently late (well, 2008) Stephen Marlowe, who wrote like 60 books in his long life and about 97.8% of them are trash. I think he might have approached the check-your-legacy phase of life and looked back with nausea at all the noir, sci-fi, and horror dreck bearing his name.
I'm not saying that he deserves his own thread; I just try to pimp for The Death and Life of Miguel de Cervantes whenever I can as it is woefully under-appreciated and he's an author one can only recommend very advisedly with strict caveats, otherwise one will have people reading the pulpiest detective garbage or sloppy cliched obviously-written-for-quick-cash supernatural piffle and developing a low opinion of one's taste and one must not have that.
The book has 60 ratings (mostly TBR's) and 5 brief reviews, containing quotes like
"The novel's main problem is that Marlowe is too conscious that he is being clever. The prose frequently seems to be saying 'Look at me!', and this is tiring."
"a style reminiscent of both Salman Rushdie and John Barth"
"He took a fabulous and fascinating history and junked it up with a whole lot of bullshit."
All of which clearly recommends it.
MJ wrote: " There are threads on here that could use pruning and directing readers to the important works instead of big clumps of bio info. "Eh, yep. The things I take for granted. I suppose my un=articulated assumptions about what an author is has indeed led to that slight glut of the biographic ;; I mean, aside from the fact that most people are inherently interesting.
If anyone's listening, I'll repeat, that as a group effort, ADD'ers, ie, the persons writing comment #1 in a given thread, are quasi-moderators of those threads ; and the better the info in comment #1, updated now and again, the more useful this whole group will be. Think of comment #1 as your infinitely editable Review, with discussion following. Something like that.
Also, I've got so damn much wordage in this group it's nigh-on impossible to following everything that leaks out of my impetuous brain....
Gregsamsa wrote: "I'm not saying that he deserves his own thread; I just try to pimp for The Death and Life of Miguel de Cervantes whenever I can as it is woefully under-appreciated and he's an author one can only recommend very advisedly with strict caveats"And he almost made it ; except that 1991 and 60 ratings is too recent and too rich for my blood.
Natalie L. M. Petesch — found her by doing a google book search on a line from Yeats's Sailing to Byzantium, that book is not in this database yet.
Rand wrote: "Natalie L. M. Petesch"ADD please.
The poor guy died young of the flu following the close of the Great war, poorer for being a cripple of small height due to tuberculosis of the spine (see: Pott disease), and deformation of the face thanks to his mother's obstetrician's forceps. Randoplph Bourne, that is, whom about we have a thing from Ed Dahlberg:"Bourne conceived such homely and radiantly mortal errors; this was his desperado impossibilism, and for this we remember him. We recall him to guide us . . . through the infernal limbo of American culture."
Each had flirted with socialism - both attended Columbia, and I want to say had been coevals, if not concurrent attendees, in that sense - Dahlberg afforded the fortune of long life to relinquish it.
His History of a Literay Radical and Other Essays is incisive, indignant, optimistic. There are another few things of his, but I'll leave it at that.
Eric wrote: "Randoplph Bourne, that is, whom about we have a thing from Ed Dahlberg:"another anarchist, eh? ADD please.
some Bourne available online ::
http://fair-use.org/randolph-bourne/
I'm gonna do a little clean up on Bourne records... looks like he has another persona with the middle name Silliman included, and one would imagine that "Literay" Radical is quite similar to his other book "Literary" Radical...
I don't know if Jean Ferry needs to be added - he only has one work of fiction, and it's about to be unburied just due to it being in print and available again (as of 11 days ago), but it currently only has three ratings, and at least deserves a mention here.
The Conductor and Other Tales
Publisher description:
First published in French in 1950 in a limited edition of 100 copies, then republished in 1953 (and enthusiastically praised by André Breton), The Conductor and Other Tales is Jean Ferry's only published book of fiction. It is a collection of short prose narratives that offer a blend of pataphysical humor and surreal nightmare: secret societies so secret that one cannot know if one is a member or not, music-hall acts that walk a tightrope from humor to horror, childhood memories of a man never born, and correspondence from countries that are more states of mind than geographical locales. Lying somewhere between Kafka's parables and the prose poems of Henri Michaux, Ferry's tales read like pages from the journal of a stranger in a familiar land. Though extracts have appeared regularly in Surrealist anthologies over the decades, The Conductor has never been fully translated into English until now. This edition includes four stories not included in the original French edition and is illustrated throughout with collages by Claude Ballaré
Jean Ferry:
Jean Ferry (1906-1974) made his living as a screenwriter for such filmmakers as Luis Buñuel and Louis Malle, cowriting such classics as Henri-Georges Clouzot's Le Quai des orfèvres and script-doctoring Marcel Carné's Les Enfants du paradis. He was the first serious scholar and exegete of the work of Raymond Roussel (on whom he published three books) and a member of the Collège de 'Pataphysique.
The Conductor and Other Tales
Publisher description:
First published in French in 1950 in a limited edition of 100 copies, then republished in 1953 (and enthusiastically praised by André Breton), The Conductor and Other Tales is Jean Ferry's only published book of fiction. It is a collection of short prose narratives that offer a blend of pataphysical humor and surreal nightmare: secret societies so secret that one cannot know if one is a member or not, music-hall acts that walk a tightrope from humor to horror, childhood memories of a man never born, and correspondence from countries that are more states of mind than geographical locales. Lying somewhere between Kafka's parables and the prose poems of Henri Michaux, Ferry's tales read like pages from the journal of a stranger in a familiar land. Though extracts have appeared regularly in Surrealist anthologies over the decades, The Conductor has never been fully translated into English until now. This edition includes four stories not included in the original French edition and is illustrated throughout with collages by Claude Ballaré
Jean Ferry:
Jean Ferry (1906-1974) made his living as a screenwriter for such filmmakers as Luis Buñuel and Louis Malle, cowriting such classics as Henri-Georges Clouzot's Le Quai des orfèvres and script-doctoring Marcel Carné's Les Enfants du paradis. He was the first serious scholar and exegete of the work of Raymond Roussel (on whom he published three books) and a member of the Collège de 'Pataphysique.
Ronald wrote: "I don't know if Jean Ferry needs to be added "Yes. He. Does. I.E. :: "a blend of pataphysical humor and surreal nightmare" will do just nicely.
Newly out of oop, or rather, finally translated -- sometimes publishers do justice for BURIED Books.
ADD please.
Ali wrote: "It's worth noting, too, that while results can vary, "back in print" or "newly translated" doesn't necessarily mean "sloughing off the soil", as Pitigrilli (2013 reprint) and the Marquis de Pellepo..."
Yeah, that's fair - I guess I just expect that it will end up with more than just 3 ratings now that it's available again. But that could easily be wishful thinking.
Yeah, that's fair - I guess I just expect that it will end up with more than just 3 ratings now that it's available again. But that could easily be wishful thinking.
It's true, unburying doesn't just happen, even with reprinting. It often still needs our hard work!
My review of Francesc Trabal's 1936 Catalan novel Waltz (in Martha Tennent's translation, published in 2013 by Dalkey) was just published at 3:AM Magazine, and copied to GR as well. In spite of MJ's earlier review, and mine, just added, Trabal seems fairly buried to me yet. What's the official view, Nathan - should I add him as officially buried here?
Kris wrote: "My review of Francesc Trabal's 1936 Catalan novel Waltz (in Martha Tennent's translation, published in 2013 by Dalkey) was just published at 3:AM Magazine, and copi..."Jeebuz, YES. ADD please.
Anything else been english'd?
Not to my knowledge. Waltz was his most famous novel, so a logical place for Dalkey to begin. Hopefully they'll publish more translations in their Catalan Literature series. I'll add Trabal today.
How about Sigurd Hoel? His most "popular" book - Meeting at the Milestone - has 67 ratings, but only 1 review - and he has 9 reviews across 7 works.
I have Meeting at the Milestone - it's on Green Integer press, one of my favorites.
I have Meeting at the Milestone - it's on Green Integer press, one of my favorites.
Ronald wrote: "How about Sigurd Hoel? His most "popular" book - Meeting at the Milestone - has 67 ratings, but only 1 review - and he has 9 reviews across 7 works."A well=signal'd situation -- (despite TOO many ratings) let's see :: Norwegian ; scarcely review'd ; pub'd by the likes of Green Int & Sun/Moon ; most of those TOO many ratings appear to be from non=Anglo names (ie, fix our Anglo=bias) ; can I go on ?
ADD please.
Good deal, I'll get on it later this evening.
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