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message 301: by Jess-i-ca (new)

Jess-i-ca  (cotejb) Marta wrote: "Jess that's exactly how I see Javier too. They're the same, trust me. It's just that we didn't get to see how Frankie was with Eva in person, but I'm pretty sure it was like how Javier was."

But Frankie was like seriously psycho and needy like he couldn't do anything without Eva and way too controlling.....Javier is still smart and a businessman....He was controlling but okay with her working, etc...And he still treated her good...Frankie never treated eva good...I mean Javier thinks shit through and is very calculated....Frankie was just like apeshit crazy...


message 302: by Jess-i-ca (new)

Jess-i-ca  (cotejb) Stefanie wrote: "Marta wrote: "Y'all seriously need to meet Frankie... lol"

I haven't finished the book yet, but who is Frankie?"


Frankie from Undeniable


message 303: by Jess-i-ca (new)

Jess-i-ca  (cotejb) Marta wrote: "No one ratted the parents out. Ellie walked into the wrong room"

No but I mean she questions why the window was open how she got the safe code....Like it was a setup


message 304: by ★Emilia★ (last edited Mar 13, 2013 06:14AM) (new)

★Emilia★ | 89 comments Jessica wrote: "Marta wrote: "Jess that's exactly how I see Javier too. They're the same, trust me. It's just that we didn't get to see how Frankie was with Eva in person, but I'm pretty sure it was like how Javie..."

Jessica, u are like music to my ears!! I won't start with my Frankie issues bc we will be here all day, but I TOTALLY AGREE with u. U cannot compare Frankie and Javier!!


message 305: by Stefanie (new)

Stefanie | 28 comments Jessica wrote: "Maria wrote: "Stefanie wrote: "So I think I've come to justify all of Javier's actions. He cheated on her to make her leave her, because he knew that he's lifestyle was going to get her hurt but he..."

My mind is constantly thinking of ways to justify Javier's behavior so I'll believe that conspiracy (lol)


message 306: by Jess-i-ca (new)

Jess-i-ca  (cotejb) Stefanie wrote: "My mind is constantly thinking of ways to justify Javier's behavior so I'll believe that conspiracy (lol) "

haha!


message 307: by Stefanie (new)

Stefanie | 28 comments Jessica wrote: "Stefanie wrote: "Marta wrote: "Y'all seriously need to meet Frankie... lol"

I haven't finished the book yet, but who is Frankie?"

Frankie from Undeniable"


I guess I need to read this book too, I'll have to add it to my list (for some strange reason I love crazy men)


message 308: by ★Emilia★ (last edited Mar 13, 2013 06:16AM) (new)

★Emilia★ | 89 comments Stefanie wrote: "Jessica wrote: "Stefanie wrote: "Marta wrote: "Y'all seriously need to meet Frankie... lol"

I haven't finished the book yet, but who is Frankie?"

Frankie from Undeniable"

I guess I need to read ..."


FRAnkie takes crazy to a whole new level! I like crazy,but not Frankie's type of crazy


message 309: by Jess-i-ca (new)

Jess-i-ca  (cotejb) Stefanie wrote: "Jessica wrote: "Stefanie wrote: "Marta wrote: "Y'all seriously need to meet Frankie... lol"

I haven't finished the book yet, but who is Frankie?"

Frankie from Undeniable"

I guess I need to read ..."

It's a very good book. The age gap between the two grossed me out a little in the beginning but the time progression eased that for me and the storyline was great....Have you read Reaper's Property? I liked it too.


message 310: by Stefanie (new)

Stefanie | 28 comments no I haven't read either...maybe I need to create another list that says (Must Read Now) lol


message 311: by Jess-i-ca (new)

Jess-i-ca  (cotejb) Emilia wrote: "FRAnkie takes crazy to a whole new level! I like crazy but not Frankie's type of crazy"

Amen!


message 312: by ★Emilia★ (last edited Mar 13, 2013 06:21AM) (new)

★Emilia★ | 89 comments I liked reapers property, unfortunately I didn't like undeniable BUT a lot of my friends did. I was definitely in the minority with undeniable


message 313: by M. (last edited Mar 13, 2013 06:22AM) (new)

M. That's because we never got a prequel to Frankie and Eva's story. So we never got to see that sweet side of Frankie. Eva still did her own thing when she was with Frankie. It's not like anyone could tell Eva what to do. One word to her father and he'd get Frankie killed in no time. And Frankie treated her good too. He loved Eva in his sick and twisted way and took good care of her. I think you just forgot. Eva wouldn't have stuck around if that wasn't the case. She even loved him back. Javier is way too controlling too. One remark on her tattoo and he went apeshit crazy on her! Who says Frankie didn't think things through? Crazy people think things through too. He thought things through and got a (view spoiler) Javier is just as psycho to me, that's why all this Javier love is seriously disturbing me.


message 314: by Keighley (new)

Keighley (keighleytypoqueen) | 12 comments Undeniable is awesome book. I had teh OMG face on throughout, the things they say, the things frankie done, the full 'wild pussy cant be tamed' speech :O Havent found anything else that compares. and if anyone falls for Frankie, they need a therapist STAT


message 315: by ★Emilia★ (last edited Mar 13, 2013 06:27AM) (new)

★Emilia★ | 89 comments Marta wrote: "That's because we never got a prequel to Frankie and Eva's story. So we never got to see that sweet side of Frankie. Eva still did her own thing when she was with Frankie. It's not like anyone coul..."

You're right, and I have mentioned b4 that maybe if we had a prequel that I can probably sympathize with him BUT(view spoiler) it kinda went downhill from there. I just couldn't love him. For me, Frankie was "apeshit" crazy and VERY possessive with Eva. Marta, u make me laugh bc u are ok with Frankie and not Javier??


message 316: by M. (new)

M. Emilia, I don't love him either. I'm saying I hate Javier as much


message 317: by M. (new)

M. lmao no I'm not okay with Frankie. I hate both of them equally :) I'm just comparing them to show you they're the same


message 318: by Stefanie (new)

Stefanie | 28 comments ok I seriously need to read Undeniable like now, so if anyone can loan it to me that would be great, my email is nicole735@yahoo.com


message 319: by Jess-i-ca (new)

Jess-i-ca  (cotejb) Stefanie wrote: "no I haven't read either...maybe I need to create another list that says (Must Read Now) lol"

I have Reaper's Property...Idk if I have undeniable..Will have to look


message 320: by ★Emilia★ (last edited Mar 13, 2013 06:29AM) (new)

★Emilia★ | 89 comments Marta wrote: "lmao no I'm not okay with Frankie. I hate both of them equally :) I'm just comparing them to show you they're the same"

Oh ok..lol but I just can't compare them.Frankie does things that are unforgivable,for me. I know Javier is crazy too but not to the extent of Frankie, IMO


message 321: by M. (last edited Mar 13, 2013 06:29AM) (new)

M. I think Javier is capable of the things Frankie did too. He already went as far as to stalk the shit outta her, get her in a crazy car chase, kill her uncle and threaten a baby and a woman to get her back.


message 322: by Jess-i-ca (new)

Jess-i-ca  (cotejb) Stefanie wrote: "ok I seriously need to read Undeniable like now, so if anyone can loan it to me that would be great, my email is nicole735@yahoo.com"

I had it :)


message 323: by Stefanie (new)

Stefanie | 28 comments Jessica wrote: "Stefanie wrote: "no I haven't read either...maybe I need to create another list that says (Must Read Now) lol"

I have Reaper's Property...Idk if I have undeniable..Will have to look"


I have Reaper's Property, I just haven't got to it yet...I'm a one click whore and keep buying new books (lol)


message 324: by Jess-i-ca (new)

Jess-i-ca  (cotejb) Emilia wrote: "Marta wrote: "lmao no I'm not okay with Frankie. I hate both of them equally :) I'm just comparing them to show you they're the same"

Oh ok..lol but I just can't compare with. Frankie does things ..."


I think its two different levels of crazy.....Like a bruised gross apple and a rotten apple...lol


message 325: by Nina (new)

Nina | 6 comments I don't know if you guys already talked about it but you know what bothered me most (and is one of the many reasons why I don't want her with Javier)? Ellie was (view spoiler)

I'm still so looking forward to Javier in Shooting Scars and how he's going to like Ellie instead of Eden.


message 326: by M. (new)

M. I wish Madeline would've done Frankie and Eva's story too so I could see all of you fall for Frankie like you're falling for Javier lol


message 327: by ★Emilia★ (new)

★Emilia★ | 89 comments Marta wrote: "I think Javier is capable of the thinks Frankie did too. He already went as far as to stalk the shit outta her, get her in a crazy car chase, kill her uncle and threaten a baby and a woman to get h..."

Like I've said b4, I find those stalker qualities endearing LMAO!kidding. But the stalking didnt bother me,neither did killing the uncle. Threatening the baby did bother me but I don't think he would have done anything to the baby,IMO BUT maybe I just love Javier and choose to believe he wouldn't do that. As far as him threatening Camden's ex wife, well I can care less about her..lol BUT if we want to be fair, Javier threatened her BUT Camden has hit her..lol I LOVE CAMDEN TOO, just making a point


message 328: by Stefanie (new)

Stefanie | 28 comments Marta wrote: "I think Javier is capable of the thinks Frankie did too. He already went as far as to stalk the shit outta her, get her in a crazy car chase, kill her uncle and threaten a baby and a woman to get h..."

Ellie could have prevented all of that by just going with him when they were in Vegas. He killed her uncle because he betrayed/turned against his own flesh and blood for money (he told her that he would kill anyone that ever hurt him)...in he's world that killing was justified. I agree with he should've never kidnapped Camden's son and ex-wife but that was the only way he could get Ellie. In his mind the end result was justified


message 329: by Maria (new)

Maria | 26 comments Maybe, Travis found out about Ellie and is trying to kill her. And that's why Javier is doing everything he can to get her back so that he could protect her. He always keeps his promises and he promised Ellie that he would kill anyone who try to harm her.


message 330: by M. (new)

M. Nina, I mentioned I love post-Javier Ellie a LOT more too! I agree with you there. The only thing I like about her relationship with Javier is that it made her stronger


message 331: by M. (new)

M. Stefanie, how is that okay when she just doesn't want to go back to him? Is it okay for Javier to FORCE her to come back? And if he really wants to kill everyone who hurts her, he should start by killing himself. No one hurt her more than he did


message 332: by Stefanie (new)

Stefanie | 28 comments I think we all might need some serious help that we find Javier so appealing. (lol)


message 333: by ★Emilia★ (last edited Mar 13, 2013 06:38AM) (new)

★Emilia★ | 89 comments Stefanie wrote: "I think we all might need some serious help that we find Javier so appealing. (lol)"

Girl, I think I've needed help after falling in love with Caleb from the dark duet series...lol I know I need help but I don't want it. If loving them is wrong, I don't want to be right..lol


message 334: by Nina (last edited Mar 13, 2013 06:41AM) (new)

Nina | 6 comments Marta wrote: "Nina, I mentioned I love post-Javier Ellie a LOT more too! I agree with you there. The only thing I like about her relationship with Javier is that it made her stronger"

Yes, she needed that experience to become the person she is now.

Emilia, I think it's a safe thing to say giving someone a slap (after they hit you repeatedly) isn't as bad as kidnapping and beating a woman and a kid...


message 335: by Stefanie (new)

Stefanie | 28 comments Marta wrote: "Stefanie, how is that okay when she just doesn't want to go back to him? Is it okay for Javier to FORCE her to come back? And if he really wants to kill everyone who hurts her, he should start by k..."

Marta....I know your right but I can't help it I'm a sucker for controlling, crazy, stalker-ish sexy men!


message 336: by Stefanie (new)

Stefanie | 28 comments Emilia wrote: "Stefanie wrote: "I think we all might need some serious help that we find Javier so appealing. (lol)"

Girl, I think I've needed help after falling in love with Caleb from the dark duet series...lo..."


I so agree


message 337: by Jess-i-ca (new)

Jess-i-ca  (cotejb) Emilia wrote: "Stefanie wrote: "I think we all might need some serious help that we find Javier so appealing. (lol)"

Girl, I think I've needed help after falling in love with Caleb from the dark duet series...lo..."

OOoh I liked Caleb too...Maybe we do have a problem....lol


message 338: by Elaine (new)

Elaine (elainelaz) Lol Marta, I think everyone should read about Frankie then they would see why we think Javier is so creepy and also we have no idea what Karina has in store for him. I would of loved a prequel to Eva and Frankie's story, I think both guys have/ had serious abandonment issues and I can't get over how similar they both are


message 339: by Maria (new)

Maria | 26 comments Javier is not going to kill himself for hurting Ellie because he probably thinks he has to do whatever it takes to keep her safe.


message 340: by ★Emilia★ (new)

★Emilia★ | 89 comments Call me crazy but I think that's just the way of life with Javier. It is with most men in organized crime. They're possessive & crazy. I think I've accepted that with Javier. I knew I what I was getting into with Javier. Like I said b4, OES made me sympathize with him and made me see why he is the way he is.


message 341: by M. (new)

M. I just don't see why you guys think Javier is better than Frankie. Frankie was in organized crime too


message 342: by ★Emilia★ (new)

★Emilia★ | 89 comments Marta wrote: "I just don't see why you guys think Javier is better than Frankie. Frankie was in organized crime too"

But my problem with Frankie is (view spoiler)


message 343: by Maria (new)

Maria | 26 comments Stefanie wrote: "Emilia wrote: "Stefanie wrote: "I think we all might need some serious help that we find Javier so appealing. (lol)"

Girl, I think I've needed help after falling in love with Caleb from the dark d..."


Stefanie, Yay for Caleb, I'm with you & Emilia!


message 344: by Keighley (new)

Keighley (keighleytypoqueen) | 12 comments Frankie out crazies them all! (view spoiler)


message 345: by M. (new)

M. I seriously don't doubt Javier is capable of all that too


message 346: by ★Emilia★ (new)

★Emilia★ | 89 comments Marta wrote: "I seriously don't doubt Javier is capable of all that too"

(view spoiler)


message 347: by ★Emilia★ (new)

★Emilia★ | 89 comments Marta, I don't want to make it seem I'm only team Javier bc u know I love Camden too. I'm on both teams...lol maybe I can pick a team in shooting scars, but right now, I love both men..lol


message 348: by M. (new)

M. I know Emilia. No hard feelings here, we're just discussing lol. Who knows Javier might do something very selfless in Shooting Scars and I'll change my opinion on him. Right now, from what I've read in S&N and OES, I feel like he's just psycho.

But yeah, I'm glad you guys don't agree with me so there's something to discuss. It'd be pretty damn boring if we'd all think alike.


message 349: by ★Emilia★ (last edited Mar 13, 2013 07:42AM) (new)

★Emilia★ | 89 comments Marta wrote: "I know Emilia. No hard feelings here, we're just discussing lol. Who knows Javier might do something very selfless in Shooting Scars and I'll change my opinion on him. Right now, from what I've rea..."

Yup, you're right. I do agree with u on some things. I do think he's a bit crazy but I like that...lmao. Marta, I'm not all there myself..lol ( kidding) you are just passionate. I like that quality. I wish I was on one team and not on the fence. It would make it easier for me, but I'm just a mess after reading OES..lol


message 350: by Maria (new)

Maria | 26 comments Marta wrote: "I know Emilia. No hard feelings here, we're just discussing lol. Who knows Javier might do something very selfless in Shooting Scars and I'll change my opinion on him. Right now, from what I've rea..."

The last sentence is very true. We finally agreed on something Marta. LOL.


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