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Goesta wrote: "Wendy wrote: "3) Not all of us know every single thing about every person's life, and when addressed in such a manner when we don't know and are a little (lot) confused and when some of us are sadd..."It's an accumulation of information from a number of posts over the past few weeks/months that lead to the conclusion I think. It's been mentioned that Lucas is getting married this summer and going on, from what little I heard, a really cool honeymoon afterward, plus graduation ... sounds like he has a full plate for the immediate future. ~Mind you, this is just what I've read in the recent past.~
Since everything previously written by a member who leaves GR is, to my knowledge, deleted
-Not so - it just says "Deleted Member" in the Message box. As far as I've seen, all of his messages still exist, looking a little forlorn though ...
It is discombobulating to come one day and find someone you've come to look forward to posting gone completely in the blink of a virtual eye. Sigh.
I think Goesta meant PMs, all of mine have vanished including those forwarded by GR to my private email.
Lori wrote: "It's an accumulation of information from a number of posts over the past few weeks/months that lead to the conclusion I think."Thanks, yes of course I did know about those. Which is why the first thing my paranoid little brain jumps to is, oh no, something's gone horribly wrong (I'd had the impression he was going to share the joy here after).
Right-o. On with existence.
Macky wrote: "Ije the TweetAway Queen wrote: "Boyd wrote: "Aves wrote: "What has happened to Lucas?! I can only hope his disappearance is for a happy reason."Let's see: he's getting married, going on a month ..."
Macky, it is with great despair and trepidation that I must proclaim that you will indeed be a caring, empathetic, and noble leader. :-) Perhaps TinTin and Mr. Tiddles-A-Lot could be advisors? Where did Ije find all those emoticons? Alas, I have no farting smilies in an elevator or anything amusing to put here because I haven't learned how to put a picture in--it fails every time. I did magage to insert a link once. Now, that's a sentence that could be taken in more than one way. But it's not meant that way. What way? Nevermind.
Maybe if Goesta doesn't know how to post pictures, he and I can both learn and he can post a picture of TinTin and I can post a picture of Tucker--omigosh--and you have Mr. Tiddles-A-Lot. You don't think they might conspire to become a Triad of Evil T's, do you? On the internet, no one knows you're a cat, a stuffed cat, and a dog...
You will do awesome, Macky.
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Hugs!
p.s. Oh my, that's one flat cat.
Goesta wrote: "Wendy wrote: "3) Not all of us know every single thing about every person's life, and when addressed in such a manner when we don't know and are a little (lot) confused and when some of us are sadd..."No, no, sorry, Goesta--no message. The messages here are still here, just under deleted user. I apologize. I was feeling slightly snarky when I wrote that and was trying not to be.
Maybe I should just explain something quickly to Boyd and everyone, because I haven't been here a terribly long time and it might seem odd that this would upset me as much as it has. I've spent the last two years, before I quit in April, with my former employers trying to find ways to get me to quit because I pointed out something they were doing that was illegal and they were angry with me. It wasn't fun. Until Averil (little did I know she was on a recruiting spree, sneaky one!) got me to join the Complaint Department, I honestly hadn't felt like I had fit in anywhere for a long time, but all of you are so--fun isn't the only word, honest, maybe, and genuine and welcoming, that I feel like I can relax here and not worry about sockpuppets (any sockpuppets, flee now or I will turn you into a virtual sock monkey) and some of the other things that were going on elsewhere on Goodreads. I laugh more when I'm in this group. Everyone very politely tolerates me and my strange posts and silliness. Thank you. That means a lot to me. I can't tell you how much it means to feel like I'm being accepted for who I am (and now I can't even hide out as a Pre Raphaelite now that my LHNB story is out, that I'm not promoting enough according to Averil, :-) and my real picture is on it since I have an author page).
So thank you, everyone. :-)
And here are some badly behaved emoticons :)
Note the group farting smileys :)
Ooh, ah (I mean, oh bother!), Wendy's got a story up and it has snakes, voluptuous tattooed bellybuttons and Preraphaelites (really?) in it. It's definitely next on (I mean, on the very, dusty bottom of) my to read stack. Um, Wendy? Do you happen to know any gay Preraphaelites (they do seem to be, mostly, men; and other than Beardsley, who sort of still is, I guess)? Love the decadent mysticism, if that's a fair way to describe the paintings, not so familiar with the written work, but would love even more some languid young men doing what all those dreamy-eyed girls are doing (i.e. staring languidly into complicated, poetically portentous, highly decorative space).
Ije the TweetAway Queen wrote: "And here are some badly behaved emoticons :)Has that third emoticon practiced with any pencils? Danni might want to know. All in the name of education, you see. LOL.
Always thought Beardsley was Art Nouveau? Are you talking modern 'New-Pre-Raphaelites' like this fellow who looks like he belongs in one of your stories, rabble rousing the audience, maybe.
Goesta wrote: "Ooh, ah (I mean, oh bother!), Wendy's got a story up and it has snakes, voluptuous tattooed bellybuttons and Preraphaelites (really?) in it. It's definitely next on (I mean, on the very, dusty bott..."Oh. Snakes, definitely, tattooed bellybutton is in the picture--I didn't manage to work it into the story, but the picture is worth a few looks, no Pre Raphaelites, though, that's just my avatar.
You know, re: the Pre Raphaelites, I'm sure there must be. Lots of Maxfield Parrish's figures seem to be somewhat androgynous in many cases. I think Rossetti was sleeping with most of his models... Now I'm curious and you've given me something to research...
(I still need to start the Gothic novella. Has anyone ever used Aeon Timeline software?) I have much of it worked out in my head, am trying to be good and outline this time and am so
(Scuttling off to research)
Averin wrote: "Always thought Beardsley was Art Nouveau? Are you talking modern 'New-Pre-Raphaelites' like this fellow who looks like he belongs in one of your stories, rabble rousing the audience, maybe."
OMG! I made a joke the other day about New Pre Raphaelites, but I was joking. Interesting. So let me get this straight: the NPR are copying a group of artists from the 1800s who were going back to the period of art before Raphael... scratch that, I had to look this up. The Pre Raphaelite Brotherhood (PRB) actually came after Raphael--this is my interpretation--to reject the Mannerist (mechanical) movement that followed Raphael. I didn't know that part before. Now I need to do research on the New Pre Raphaelites as well.
Averil, you're right, Beardsley is Art Nouveau. And yes, now that you mention it, I suppose there could be rabble rousers in my audience (in the story) that look like the man in the picture. I can see that. Maybe he'd have a bearded lizard, though. LOL..
Wendy wrote: "Averin wrote: "Always thought Beardsley was Art Nouveau? Are you talking modern 'New-Pre-Raphaelites' like this fellow who looks like he belongs in one of your stories, rabble rousing the audi..."
Actually, I meant the audience for the magic shows in Goesta's stories.
LOL. I didn't know Goesta had magic shows in his stories. I'll have to ask him if one of them can have a bearded dragon.
Anil wrote: "I am angry with myself for asking you to read the long text below and tell me if my questions are valid:1 - You point out that in some circumstances, you can accept late starters up to second wee..."
Of course they are valid sweet, dear Anil but you are talking to bureaucrats who will never admit they were wrong and you were right. Is there a postgraduate admissions appeal process with an impartial hearing officer or appeals process to judge the case?
The Dean of Students or foreign students office or even an LGBT student advocate that you can contact by phone/email? The impossible to convince functionaries in the Admissions Office will always find fault in your failing to meet the rules and will never agree they were wrong, but even if they did admit they were wrong they would say, too bad but it is too late now so you must wait until the next time. They are useless to you as advocates but the Dean of Students or foreign students office or any other advocacy group or hearing process you can uncover could rule or put pressure on them to take action to repair their inadequate service to a student.
All I can offer are hairless (sorry) hugs and my sorrow that you have been wronged so outrageously.
xxx ooo Boyd
Lori wrote: "We're happy to have you Wendy!"Thank you. :-)
Hugs.
Boyd wrote: "Anil wrote: "I am angry with myself for asking you to read the long text below and tell me if my questions are valid:1 - You point out that in some circumstances, you can accept late starters up ..."
Hi Anil,
Unfortunately, I have to agree with Boyd's assessment of the situation. The hoops you have to go through with universities is beyond absurd sometimes. I moved to Oregon to go to school here, but I also planned on staying here. When you're an out of state resident, you get charged out of state residence tuition, which is sometimes a lot higher than for those who live in the state. After, I think it was two years, you could apply for residency. My car was registered in Oregon, I had paid taxes in Oregon for two years, I had an Oregon drivers' license, you get the idea. I even have family here that had moved up a few years before I did, so I had even more reason to stay. I applied for residency and it was promptly denied. I was completely shocked. I was very lucky in that I found someone who knew what the residency committee wanted to hear, and I appealed the decision, but I had to get more evidence that I planned to stay in Oregon. I missed a term and had to pay out of state tuition while they finally decided I was an Oregon resident.
And don't ask about the time I wanted to change my name back to my maiden name after I got divorced, and the social security office wanted my green card. It's hard to produce a green card when you've always been a citizen.
I hope everything works out. I'm so sorry you've had to go through all of this. Is there a Summer term, or do you definitely have to wait until September?
I'm not hairy either, so now you'll have two non-hairy hugs. :-)
Wendy
I hate that the weather in London is just so cold. It is like having a second winter and I never really recovered from the first!!
Wendy wrote: "1) I must begrudgingly thank you for giving us the reasons behind Lucas' leaving, but;2) I must also take note at the tone in which it was given,
because;""
Hi Wendy pronounced Windy which is a beautiful name.
I'm going to attempt to respond to your message "4242". The first thing you should know and everyone else should remember is that I'm not a moderator. Only Macky is the Moderator I have no power except to show off my washboard abs and green eyes and perfect teeth but most people… well everybody here except for Goesta is immune to that. In return for the eye candy thing I get to hug and kiss female members while being immune to girl cooties. I agree it's not much of a life so that might explain why I'm single and I can't find a serious boyfriend for possible…husband? Well I can dream can't I?Unfortunately I usually just have wet dreams about Lucas. Oh this isn't addressing any of your points.
Not only am I a powerless member just like any other member but I also don't take the Complaint Department too seriously because it's a place for fun (but also for caring.) So I would suspect a lot of people might not like my attitude. But I wasn't trying to give you attitude, I was only trying to give you information that people who have been members for awhile knew but you didn't know because you just recently joined the group about 12 days ago.
I apologize if I sounded snooty or like I was talking down to you. I did not think I did that and I know that sure wasn't my intent at all. I just like to be helpful and I thought that info would be helpful to you. Nothing more.
Also I do not have an inside scoop nor am I withholding inside info. What I wrote came from reading the postings here for 4 months and Lucas's former profile. You wrote "You obviously know everything that's going on, or much of, that's going on in Lucas' life, and you may have known this was coming." I really don't know any more than Tj or JustJen or other early members. What we know were read here. I don't know everything or much of what going on in Lucas' life. Indeed I have never even met him not that I wasn't desperately hoping to meet him. I did see him but he was with Tom and didn't notice me. I was surprised as anyone when [delete user] replaced Lucas. I did not know ahead of anyone else.
I'm afraid your comments were so organized and mine are going to be so jumbled up. :(
Lucas created the Complaint Department on February 15th. I guess he and and his fiancé Tom were too busy doing the nasty on February 14th celebrating Valentines Day. So I signed up on February 15th for the Complaint Department on its very first day, in fact I was the first member. Lucas remained Complaint Department's dumb jock and moderator until just recently after graduation. He built up all the various discussions, promo section, polls, logo, games, and everything here while still a student. He was not shy about talking about his fiancé and their wedding and honeymoon. Before he graduated his Profile said he was a dumb-jock student at NYU living in Manhattan. So between that and messages people wrote it was common knowledge he was enfiancéd and studying for his Doctorate like in these postings:
"I am unhappy with our "jock" soon-to-be-married leader's being not content with the amount of complaints he hears about himself." Anil, April 14
To brilliant author/member George Seaton
“Having just received my doctorate at NYU…”
May 31st Reply from George
Congratulations on completing your matriculation."
"I think Lucas' proper wedding will be the story we all want to know about when he finally ties the knot and he'll tell it much better, hopefully we'll get to see a few piccys of his wonderful day...... * Sigh* " Macky Apil 4th
From Lucas "I have promised everyone photos of the wedding. We can take the pecs and abs pics at the reception when we start the real dancing. We've already hired a still photographer and a videographer.
Oh and some people here have seen Tom at his summer job. When his school is on summer vacation he's a life guard at a large indoor pool. And I think at least one of our members has seen us working out at the gym. But you guys shouldn't mind a little wait for pics when we officially become husband and husband and co-jocks for life". April 14th
"Dr. Lucas Lyons, what a great sounding name, but to follow the rules, I have to complain we all didn't get an engraved announcement. It is an immense achievement and I congratulate you, and your husband to be for putting up with all you had to go thru to achieve it… " Jerry, May 30th
So it was common knowledege to anyone who had read the postings here on May 30th when Jerry B's message mentioned both the doctoral degree and the "husband to be."
That was May 30th. You joined the Complaint Department on May 31st so you missed that message by one day.
Since you are a writer (with a Masters!) and are also a blogger plus need to pick sweaters off the floor you are very busy and I would not have expected you to make time to read our back pages. Speaking of being an author please consider using the Author's Promotion thread here to advertise your books, post your blog info (everybody her blog is at:
http://livinginmultispleworlds.wordpr... ) and let us pimp your writing. I'm surprised you are not a member of the LGBT Fantasy group. Consider it for PR and book recommendations.
You wrote, "(I pictured you in a little dark office playing video games for some reason)." How did you know? We have a back room here and it's got rocking games but they're all 8bit for 1980's Commodore 64 and Atari. Actually I do post messages here. As you can tell by the length and warped structure of this one, I don't think I should post too many or everyone will get annoyed at my rambling.
You wrote "That always made me a little nervous, that doctors practice medicine." Well from what he said here he worked in doctors' offices, hospitals, gyms and institutions every summer for the past three years as part of his requirement for the Doctor of Physical Therapy degree/license so he is probably finished practicing and is ready to get down to work."
Sadly I don't know all about ribs, bones and muscles and stuff like our Dr. Dumb Jock; however, I do remember an artwork of the guy with as birdcage torso but I don't know if it's the same one you asked me about. There is the sculpture by my favorite surrealist René Magritte and others have made images of it.
I love the analogy of valentines candy hears with writing on them. I must go think about little eye candy writing I can do that is more my style than the typical sayings like "be mine." How about "Zowie Hottie!"
I like bacon a lot and I like waffles and pancakes with syrup with my bacon but to answer your intriguing question, I have never had bacon syrup, only bacon and syrup together. I looking forward to my first taste of bacon syrup even if I have to lick it off somebody. Any hot bodied male volunteers? :::smiling:::
Hugs and kisses my delightful zephyr, Boyd
Hardly succinct, Boyd,
I am perturbed that no one is chatting so that I might chat about the most incredible, non-spam, subject line in an email that I ever received concerning a power bottom. Or any bottom, because the only other bottom emails I received before were when my kids were little and Huggies sent me coupons.
I am biodigested that it's raining again and there will be gale force winds tomorrow. I know it comes of living on an island off the Continental coast, but couldn't the coalition government have Britain towed south and parked off the coast of, say Portugal, or maybe The Gambia? I mean, REALLY!
Since we are under new administration (or moderating-tion, whichever tickles your fancy) I need to begrudgingly refer Mucky Moderatrix Extraordinaire Macky to message 4035.Let's see if she can do something about it.
I must whine that I find your picture of the sculpture quite intriguing and interesting.
Gabbo wrote: "Since we are under new administration (or moderating-tion, whichever tickles your fancy) I need to begrudgingly refer Mucky Moderatrix Extraordinaire Macky to message 4035.Let's see if she can do..."
Whining might work here: That would be a cool discussion thread. Please, please Macky?
Gabbo wrote: "Since we are under new administration (or moderating-tion, whichever tickles your fancy) I need to begrudgingly refer Mucky Moderatrix Extraordinaire Macky to message 4035.Let's see if she can do..."
What movie is particularly bothering you, Gabbo?
Might've restated it Gabbo, Damnit, took me an age to find message 4035!Now I have a complaint to the Sacred Owner of the Cap, in other words our St. Lucas of the WashboardAbs.
Why is that we as complainers don't have a WHAT I REALLY HATE ABOUT BOOKS TURNED INTO MOVIES thread?
Aren't there enough of those to complain for eons?
I am missing out on stuff being out of town:(Sorry to hear Lucas left us.
Helle I hope you are doing better.
And I will catch up with everyone later:)
Gabbo wrote: "Since we are under new administration (or moderating-tion, whichever tickles your fancy) I need to begrudgingly refer Mucky Moderatrix Extraordinaire Macky to message 4035.Let's see if she can do..."
I wish to complain that Gabbo hasn't got off his lazy arse and just started the thread himself.
I hate when the bureaucrats make vague statements. (Sorry, guys who are my friends on Facebook, I just want to consult more people) What does 'to develop further specialisation in a particular field' mean? Would I develop further specialisation if the uni made an offer and I completed my Postgraduate Certificate to a Master's degree?
Roger wrote: "I am biodigested that it's raining again and there will be gale force winds tomorrow. I know it comes of living on an island off the Continental coast, but couldn't the coalition government have Br..."I am appaled to hear about the possibility of gales tomorrow. Thank goodness I am working from home tomorrow so I can hide from the gale force winds. Thank goodness my boss champions working from home. Here is what the Mayor of London said about working from home in his recent vision for London
"Some may find that working from home descends into a morbid routine of making coffee, checking emails, and hacking that hunk of cheese from the fridge; some may be justifiably anxious, in tough times, that management may be more willing to dispense with them
if they are never in the office."
Nice one!!
Gabbo wrote: "Since we are under new administration (or moderating-tion, whichever tickles your fancy) I need to begrudgingly refer Mucky Moderatrix Extraordinaire Macky to message 4035.Let's see if she can do..."
I am so annoyed that Gabbo made me pander to his desires! Get complaining Mr Pornandez.
Macky wrote: "Gabbo wrote: "I am so annoyed that Gabbo made me pander to his desires!"I wish Gabbo would make me pander to his desires :)
Ugh! Fire:( traffic is stopped! And it is starting to rain
Tj wrote: "Ugh! Fire:( traffic is stopped! And it is starting to rain"Watching the news this morning when they showed the evacuations, I wondered about George.
Boyd wrote: "Macky wrote: "Gabbo wrote: "I am so annoyed that Gabbo made me pander to his desires!"I wish Gabbo would make me pander to his desires :)"
I discombobulated to learn that I might have some kind of power over Eye candy Boyd, I'm a sucker for curly hair so don't tempt me, boy.
Oh, it was a vehicle fire on the freeway. Melted the entire cab of the semi:( I hope George is ok too!
I hate when someone plays fast and loose with history and I can't prove if it's an anachronism or not. Seriously, does anyone know, when the phrase "out and proud" originated? It seems to be from Chicago, which fits the story I'm working on but I can't prove one way or another if it was used in 1976.
Averin wrote: "Seriously, does anyone know, when the phrase "out and proud" originated? "Did you google it already?
Boyd wrote: "Wendy wrote: "1) I must begrudgingly thank you for giving us the reasons behind Lucas' leaving, but;2) I must also take note at the tone in which it was given,
because;""
Hi Wendy pronounced Win..."
Dearest Boyd, I feel the utmost need to
This is starting to not make sense even to me. Are you mocking my profile, sir? I lead a very
Okay (I've had a few deep breaths now). I think it's
I also
As for my appraisal of the 8-bit console systems, I never had an Atari, but I did have a Commodore 64. We didn't have any games, though, and all I managed to do with it was make a TARDIS with a blinky light on top that flew around the screen. I tell you, though, I miss my Nintendo. My favorite game of all time is Legend of Zelda, in its beautiful gold cartridge. I could still play that for hours. I saw awhile ago that some company was making these huge wall hangings, 11' or so, of the map of Hyrule. I'd be there in a second if all our walls weren't already covered with bookcases (one of the reasons I had to get a Kindle--there physically isn't room for more books). I had a Genesis so I could play Phantasy Star, and I also played Final Fantasy. I loved the earlier games. There just aren't any games out there now like Master of Monsters. My latest trip to our big superstore, there is now a Nintendo that plays 8-bit and 16-bit cartridges. I went up to the 64-bits, then played Diablo 1 and 2 for a while, then stopped to concentrate more on my writing. I can't play the new games--the POV thing screws me up. I bought a used GameCube to play Zelda: Twilight Princess and it just made me incredibly dizzy. I had sooo many good games for the 8-bit and 16-bit Nintendo consoles, though. People don't appreciate them.
And I see you are posting, which is absolutely
I do want to officially complain, however, and possibly even lament, over the fact that so many guys have the nice curly hair. That is so unfair. A few years ago, for fun, I put some of those foam curlers in my hair. The result was that I looked like a deranged Shirley Temple. There is no evidence of that incident, by the way. :-) Absolutely none.
Did you know Boyd means blond? It's a good thing that worked out. :-)
Hugs to Zowie Hottie,
Your zephyr, Wendy
Averin wrote: "I hate when someone plays fast and loose with history and I can't prove if it's an anachronism or not. Seriously, does anyone know, when the phrase "out and proud" originated? It seems to be from C..."I'm looking, but from what I've found, I don't think it would have been the 70s. Granted, the article I'm looking at is from Toronto, but I can't imagine it being much different here, and this was Univ. of Toronto--you couldn't teach if you were gay, and everyone was afraid to come out. I'm guessing it came later. I'm still looking.
Aves wrote: "Averin wrote: "Seriously, does anyone know, when the phrase "out and proud" originated? "Did you google it already?"
Yes it comes up over and over for an organization that doesn't have its timeline up.
There's a book that just came out about gay history in Chicago from the 1920's that's called "Out and Proud" so a lot of hits are for that. It looks like an interesting book, for anyone who's interested.
Wendy wrote: "There's a book that just came out about gay history in Chicago from the 1920's that's called "Out and Proud" so a lot of hits are for that. It looks like an interesting book, for anyone who's int..."
Yes, they seem to be a local historical society; but what I need isn't available yet.
Averin wrote: "I hate when someone plays fast and loose with history and I can't prove if it's an anachronism or not. Seriously, does anyone know, when the phrase "out and proud" originated? It seems to be from C..."Darn it all, now I have a mystery to solve! So far the best I've been able to come up with is post Stonewall, but I'm willing to hunt (I love to research) if you want me to.
Averin wrote: "Wendy wrote: "There's a book that just came out about gay history in Chicago from the 1920's that's called "Out and Proud" so a lot of hits are for that. It looks like an interesting book, for an..."
I found one from right after Stonewall, "Gay is Good," around 1970, and wiki has a list of LBGT slogans, and "Out and Proud" isn't one of them, but it's all over the place.
Lori wrote: "Averin wrote: "I hate when someone plays fast and loose with history and I can't prove if it's an anachronism or not. Seriously, does anyone know, when the phrase "out and proud" originated? It see..."Any assistance is appreciated. There's about 50 stories ahead of this one in the Initial Edits queue, so I can fix it right up until it's ready to go back for author approval.
Wendy wrote: "Averin wrote: "Wendy wrote: "There's a book that just came out about gay history in Chicago from the 1920's that's called "Out and Proud" so a lot of hits are for that. It looks like an interesti..."
Yeah it referred to rainbows, not around for another two years, and "We're here, we're queer…" which is from the '90s.
Boyd wrote: "Macky wrote: "Gabbo wrote: "I am so annoyed that Gabbo made me pander to his desires!"I wish Gabbo would make me pander to his desires :)"
Why you little slu(*cough*)mberland Nemo, naughtilous captain of my jalousie window to the birdhouse of my sole canary islands in the stream we're not I guess after all the sweet music you twittered into my ear stalks of flax ("erect annual plant with slender stems") -en curls can't stop thinking about last night.
Gabbo, you're so toast. *growlroarhissmineminemineallmine*
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Not to want to draw this out any further, but does the point you make above mean that there was a message? Since everything previously written by a member who leaves GR is, to my knowledge, deleted, I must have missed this. So I am, like some others here perhaps, entirely in the dark as to what he might have said before it all disappeared. Or is there still a parting message somewhere that I am not aware of?
I also noticed afterwards that an email address of Lucas' not directly associated with GR (though maybe indirectly, as having been the same moniker?) that we'd been using to communicate off-site had become "unavailable." Even though he and I were not very close, this obviously would cause anyone such as myself, who is rather fond of whoever he may be in real life, based on this virtual 'relationship', some concern. None of it is any of my business, but I feel affected nonetheless, and not in a very reassuring way.