): Sherlock Holmes

[Margaret, Sherlockian Sheila]

Finished the book.

https://www.goodreads.com/review/show...

[Margaret, Sherlockian Sheila]

Someone asked a while ago when Season 3 of "Sherlock" was going to air. The US airdate has been announced. Starting on PBS on January 19th.

The exact UK airdate hasn't been announced because the BBC doesn't makes airdate announcements until about 2 weeks before the date. In all probability it will be around the time of the US airdate or slightly before.

[Margaret, Sherlockian Sheila]

Airdate for Episode 1, Season 3 Sherlock will be announced on 4th December. Expected to be during Christmas week.

[Margaret, Sherlockian Sheila]

We have an airdate for Sherlock. S3 Ep 1 on 1st January 2014.

[Simona]

I read a couple of "sherlockian" books:The Devil's Grin and The Fall. I think that the 1st one is quite good.

[Margaret, Sherlockian Sheila]

Thanks for that, Simona, they look interesting.

[Simona]

You're welcome.

[Mark]

Just been annouced new sherlock is on new years day here in the uk.:)

[Margaret, Sherlockian Sheila]

I know. Waiting for Australian airdate now.

[Mark]

Margaret wrote: "I know. Waiting for Australian airdate now."

Sorry margaret I hadnt seen your earlier post.

[Margaret, Sherlockian Sheila]

It's okay, Mark. The more posts in the thread the happier I am. I love discussing Sherlock Holmes. :)

[Terri, Wyrd bið ful aræd]

Yes, she has a sickness. Sherlockian Syndrome.

[Margaret, Sherlockian Sheila]

Terri wrote: "Yes, she has a sickness. Sherlockian Syndrome."

It's terminal. There is no known cure. :D

[Terri, Wyrd bið ful aræd]

haha. Well I certainly can't think of one. So many books about him, so many tv or movies about him. It would be impossible to cut you off.

[Margaret, Sherlockian Sheila]

Terri wrote: "haha. Well I certainly can't think of one. So many books about him, so many tv or movies about him. It would be impossible to cut you off."

All intervention will be strenuously fought against.

[Simona]

I will ask to the library to find for me "The Mammouth Book of New Sherlock Holmes Novels" an anthology by Mike Ashley, I haven't been able to find the link but I'm sure it does exist because it's on the library's thesaurus :)

[Darcy]

The Mammoth Book of New Sherlock Holmes Adventures

Couldn't find one with a cover for you Simona. :(

ETA: I lied, here is one

[Simona]

thank you Darcy you are precious :)

[Margaret, Sherlockian Sheila]

Simona wrote: "I will ask to the library to find for me "The Mammouth Book of New Sherlock Holmes Novels" an anthology by Mike Ashley, I haven't been able to find the link but I'm sure it does exist because it's ..."

Mike Ashley's anthologies are always good. I have found many new authors through these. And the Mammoth Book of New Sherlock Holmes Adventures is a good one.

[Allison]

I havent read any of the stories (yet) but I do have the complete set packed away with the rest of my amazing books I can't read right now. However I think I've seen every tv show, miniseries & movie of Sherlock Holmes. Lol, the Disney version "the great mouse detective" is my fave Disney movie :) BBC version is very good w/ Benedict Cumberbatch & Martin Freeman. In the states, Elementary is on its second season. Love Johnny Lee Miller but I'm not sold on Lucy Liu being "Joan" Watson.

[Margaret, Sherlockian Sheila]

Allie, I can't stand Lucy Liu as "Joan" Watson. Making Watson female is taking it too far from canon for me to be comfortable with.

"Sherlock" with Benedict Cumberbatch and Martin Freeman is my absolute favourite Holmes and Watson pairing.

I have read all of Conan Doyle's originals and many, many short stories and novels by other writers. Sherlock Holmes was the first fictional character to have a massive fan base, and also the first fan fiction ever written. :D

[Allison]

Yes, that ones probably the best. I love their little bromance lol.

When I first saw "elementary" and Watson was a girl, I was like whaaaaaaatttt????? But I've kept watching because I think J.L. Miller is fantastic as Sherlock. Really love the guy who plays Mycroft too.

I will read them all one day. I swear!

[Margaret, Sherlockian Sheila]

Allie wrote: "Yes, that ones probably the best. I love their little bromance lol.

When I first saw "elementary" and Watson was a girl, I was like whaaaaaaatttt????? But I've kept watching because I think J.L. ..."
Jonny Lee Miller is a good actor. I saw him recently acting opposite Benedict Cumberbatch in the National Theatre's Frankenstein.

His Sherlock is good, but as I don't like the female Watson I don't watch. Also, when one appalling script writer gave him the line "Deduction isn't everything." I lost it. That's the whole point of the Sherlock Holmes stories - the deductions are EVERYTHING.

I'm not keen on the porn star mo their Mycroft sports. :p

[Allison]

Hmmm... clearly I have not been paying attention. Never heard that.

Haha, I just like the actor (Mycroft) and other stuff he's been in.

[Allison]

That Frankenstein sounds so good!!!

[Margaret, Sherlockian Sheila]

Allie wrote: "Hmmm... clearly I have not been paying attention. Never heard that.

Haha, I just like the actor (Mycroft) and other stuff he's been in."

First season. They ran it in a trailer. I nearly had apoplexy.

[Margaret, Sherlockian Sheila]

Allie wrote: "That Frankenstein sounds so good!!!"

It was brilliant. They reversed the roles. One would be Victor and the other the Creature, then the next night each played the opposite role. I saw both versions.

[Dawn]

Allie wrote: "Hmmm... clearly I have not been paying attention. Never heard that.

Haha, I just like the actor (Mycroft) and other stuff he's been in."

Love Rhys Ifans but I think they're messing with the Mycroft character too. Last episode I saw with Mycroft had him coming across as a bad guy at the end, I think. It was a bit iffy. :)

[Margaret, Sherlockian Sheila]

Dawn wrote: "Allie wrote: "Hmmm... clearly I have not been paying attention. Never heard that.

Haha, I just like the actor (Mycroft) and other stuff he's been in."

Love Rhys Ifans but I think they're messing ..."

The recent adaptations of Mycroft are interesting. Mycroft is being seen AS the British government, when in the books he simply held a unique, but powerful, position within it.

The change came in the 1970's with the movie "The Private Life of Sherlock Holmes" in which Christopher Lee's Mycroft is much more than a government functionary, and the Diogenes Club is a front for the British Secret Service.

Mark Gatiss and Steve Moffat, the creator's of "Sherlock" freely admit that their Mycroft is based in part on Christopher Lee's portrayal. Both men include the movie amongst their favourites.

And "Elementary" is borrowing from the "Sherlock" mythos rather than the Conan Doyle canon.

[Dawn]

Margaret wrote: "And "Elementary" is borrowing from the "Sherlock" mythos rather than the Conan Doyle canon...."

I think they may be going beyond it. I mean, seriously, he's a restaurant owner?? And possibly mixed up with Moriarty??

I liked the Christopher Lee portrayal myself.

[Margaret, Sherlockian Sheila]

Dawn wrote: "Margaret wrote: "And "Elementary" is borrowing from the "Sherlock" mythos rather than the Conan Doyle canon...."

I think they may be going beyond it. I mean, seriously, he's a restaurant owner?? A..."

What??? That...that...that... *speechless*

Here, children, is another reason I don't watch Elementary!!!!

Christopher Lee was my favourite Mycroft... until Mark Gatiss came along in "Sherlock". I adore Mark's portrayal of Sherlock's big brother. :)

[Dawn]

Ah, I thought you might not know how much they had changed Mycroft. I swear the restaurant owner bit realy threw me for a loop and (view spoiler)[ his affair with Watson was a bit odd (hide spoiler)]. Did you know Moriarty is (view spoiler)[ a woman too, in fact Irene Adler is Moriarty (hide spoiler)]! :)

The spoilers are only for those who aren't caught up. I don't want to ruin anything for those who still want to watch the show and haven't yet!

[Margaret, Sherlockian Sheila]

I didn't know the first, but did know the second. I heard the screams from other Sherlockians when that was revealed at the end of season 1. I'd given up even attempting to watch by that point.

[Allison]

Margaret wrote: "Allie wrote: "That Frankenstein sounds so good!!!"

It was brilliant. They reversed the roles. One would be Victor and the other the Creature, then the next night each played the opposite role. ..."

Oh my gosh, that sounds amazing!!! I soooo wish I had gotten to see that.

[Allison]

Dawn wrote: "Margaret wrote: "And "Elementary" is borrowing from the "Sherlock" mythos rather than the Conan Doyle canon...."

I think they may be going beyond it. I mean, seriously, he's a restaurant owner?? A..."

Oh man! I really haven't been paying attention....he may be mixed up with Moriarty? That whole angle w/ M was cray-cray.

[Allison]

Margaret, you're like the Sherlock of Sherlock Holmes :)

[Margaret, Sherlockian Sheila]

Allie wrote: "Margaret, you're like the Sherlock of Sherlock Holmes :)"

That may just be the sweetest thing anyone has ever said to me. LOL

[Allison]

Yay! :)

[Terri, Wyrd bið ful aræd]

Allie wrote: "Margaret, you're like the Sherlock of Sherlock Holmes :)"

hahaha. Now that is a lovely compliment to give Margaret. :)

[Margaret, Sherlockian Sheila]

Aint that the truth, Terri. :D LOL

[Allison]

Margaret: you should join the group "reading the classics" if you're not already a member. They started reading the whole canon of Arthur Conan Doyle's Sherlock Holmes with a discussion for each story. Sounds right up your alley.

[Margaret, Sherlockian Sheila]

Allie wrote: "Margaret: you should join the group "reading the classics" if you're not already a member. They started reading the whole canon of Arthur Conan Doyle's Sherlock Holmes with a discussi..."

It does indeed. Thank you. :)

[Allison]

No problem :)

They've been reading them since this summer (its still going) so there's a plethora of discussions for you to indulge in!

[Margaret, Sherlockian Sheila]

Okay someone recommended Sherlock in Love: A Novel to me. I found a copy in an opportunity shop today.

Portia, I think it was your recommendation? Not sure.

[Darcy]

On the Smithsonian channel they've been playing a show called How Sherlock Changed The World. There are a few forensic scientists who explain how Arthur Conan Doyle used Sherlock to advance investigative techniques, kind of a la Jules Verne with transportation and other sci-fi stuff. Quite interesting.

[Portia]

My recommendation was How Sherlock Changed the World bec Dominic Cumberbatch clips are shown and the cemetery from which one of the murder victims was exhumed is the one where my family is buried. When the shot of the entrance to the graveyard came on, Spouse was saying, "Is that ,,,?" as the narrator was saying "... Mount Olivet Cemetery." Wierd to see my family headstone on PBS.

[Portia]

The forensics are fascinating. Joseph Bell was a genius.

[Margaret, Sherlockian Sheila]

*chuckles* Wrong saint, Portia. It's Benedict not Dominic. :D

[Mark]

Well watched sherlock in the last bow. And HO HECK.;)

[Margaret, Sherlockian Sheila]

Mark wrote: "Well watched sherlock in the last bow. And HO HECK.;)"

His Last Vow, not Bow.

I've heard. I was NOT expecting the ending. I was told about (to be fair I asked. I wanted to know. Television induced anxiety isn't my favourite thing).

I have pre-ordered the dvds. I won't be watching it on tv here, because it is going to start next weekend on Sunday night, with adverts added the hour and a half will be stretched to 2 and half hours and I get up at 5AM. Not practical for me.