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http://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/1184"
No pdf??

http://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/1184"
No pdf??"
There are several pdf versions online. If you google "Count of Monte Cristo pdf" it will return a slew of results from which to choose.

http://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/1184"
No pdf??"
There are several pdf versions online. If you go..."
thanks found one for me


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Thanks for posting this. It's very helpful especially to those of us who read it previously and need a reminder or two (or more) about specifics.
Be aware this is filled with spoilers. Great for review, perhaps not so good if you haven't finished.

a relations map"
Thanks for posting this. It's very helpful especially to those of us who read i..."
Thank you Elizabeth! I'm so sorry I didn't say anything, ugh, I hate spoilers but for me in this case, readying a little ahead in the plot has helped me to follow the story. If anyone is having trouble getting started I agree with Pamela listening to it on audio might be a better way to go. I found a link online that has it for free and no downloading required. Enjoy!
http://archive.org/details/count_mont...




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It only gets better. Sorry about the sleep you'll be losing.


LOL

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I love that part in The Shawshank Redemption when they are unpacking the library and the inmate reads "Count of Monte Crisco" and then pronounces Alexandre Dumas as Dumb ass. He giggles like a little boy haha

I realized that I was reading an Abridged version! I downloaded the free version that everyone else is reading. :-0

It is a fantastic story Just a very large portion. It will be the longest book I have ever read. Pushing Steven King's The Stand out of first place.
After this can we vote for a Dr. Seuss book?


You might be reading an abridged version. The full versions usually have more than 1000 pages.

You might be reading an abridged version. The full versions usua..."
You are right!! I didn't notice. I don't see how adding twice as many pages would make this better. I am enjoying it.

I was sort of wondering too. This is my first discussion with this group, and everyone seems so afraid of spoilers they won't post anything. I would think anyone coming to this thread should have read the book and be ready to discuss.

I was sort of wondering too. This is my first discussion with this group, and everyone seems so afraid of spoi..."
I'm still working on the story. I thought it would be ok to share my progress and comments.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ch%C3%A2...
Apparently it was used one time as a prison, and with great imagination, Dumas took pen in hand.

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Do the French know that Edmund and his Buddy chiseled a hole through the wall of one of their accommodations?
I wondered about the stories written during this time period. Were the stories in this time period mostly focused on the French revolution? I am comparing the way during the cold war seemed novels of Russia were all about spies and espionage. (aside from the classics) I have yet to come across any Russian Romance novels for example. They must exist. Politics influencing art?


I tried to visit Chateu d'If a few years ago when I was on holiday in that area but the wind was so bad that day that none of the boats were doing the journey over there. For anyone interested in the history of the place and prisoners as it relates directly to this book though I would look into The Black Count: Glory, Revolution, Betrayal, and the Real Count of Monte Cristo (I haven't read it yet myself but discovered it from a customer when I worked in a bookshop, who thought it was brilliant so it's on my wishlist).
Now. Discussion points... I find the repeated references to Polidori's The Vampyre: A Tale and the comparrison between the count and Lord Ruthven fascinating. I don't know if anybody else has read The Vampyre but it is really very fitting - he's a mysterious and apprently charming aristocrat who decides to join the travels young and naive young man travelling around Europe. As they travel his friend slowly realises that everything Lord Ruthven does destroys the lives of the people he comes into contact with. It's a short read and it's not *brilliant* or anything - it was envisaged as a campfire ghost story and it reads like one - but I think I'll be rereading it again quickly once I finish Monte Cristo. Of course the Count's secret isn't that he's actually a vampire, and he's still (vaguely) sympathetic rather than the villain of the book - but the similarities between him and Lord Ruthven, and the way Dumas deliberately draws attention to them, is pretty interesting (at least for me!).
I'm also very drawn to the mute black slave, Ali. I think he's an interesting character - his backstory shows very early on just how cruel and calculating the Count has become and how little value he places on other people, that he would deliberately wait for a man's tongue to be cut out before rescuing him. But Ali's role in the book also tells us about race in France at the time Dumas was writing about. Ali is a victim of racism, both from the northern Africans who sentenced him to death for the colour of his skin and in France where people either openly stare or treat him like part of the furniture. The way Villefort's vile son called him 'too ugly' to say thank you to and the obvious hurt that casued him really made me angry (no revenge will be too nasty for that child). And I wonder how much Dumas is drawing on his own and his family's experience there because, although Dumas is writing about predominantly white people, he himself was actually mixed race (his father was the son of a white nobleman and a black slave who went on to became a senior general in Napoleon's army).
Books mentioned in this topic
The Black Count: Glory, Revolution, Betrayal, and the Real Count of Monte Cristo (other topics)The Vampyre (other topics)