The Brothers Grimm Challenge, planning and points

[Barbara]

Sorry for the delay due to illness and general lack of energy caused by illness, but finally here is: the Brothers Grimm Challenge.

The Challenge will run from 1 February 2013 – 30 April 2013.
I know that is short notice, but I don’t think that will be much of a problem since we have a lot of time for just a couple of tasks and you don’t have to plan much.

We have had a nomination round so we knew which fairytales to use. The final results are:
5 votes: * Rapunzel, * Rumpelstiltskin
4 votes: * Cinderella, *Hansel and Grethel
3 votes: * Little Red Cap, * The Golden Goose
2 votes: *Six Swans, * Sleeping beauty, * Snow-white. * The Goose Girl, * The Three Spinners, * The Wolf and the seven little goats
1 vote: * The frog prince, * The Wishing table, the gold ass and the cudgel in the sack, * Tom Thumb, * Town Musicians of Bremen

Carolien and I felt it would be a shame to leave some fairytales out. So we decided to use them all in the following way: There are 5 groups of fairytales depending on how many votes they got. You have to pick one of every group to use and read a book that is connected to that fairytale in some way. The connection has to be in the story.
For example if you pick Snow-white from the group of stories that got 2 votes you can read a book where an apple plays a big part, or with dwarves in it, or about a wicked witch, or about an orphan, etc. To complete your task you will also have to read the story Snow-white.

We also have two further tasks. So that makes 7 tasks in total.

The tasks are:
1) pick a story that got 5 votes (* Rapunzel, * Rumpelstiltskin), read that story and read a book that in it’s own storyline has a connection to it.
2) pick a story that got 4 votes (* Cinderella, *Hansel and Grethel), read that story and read a book that in it’s own storyline has a connection to it.
3) pick a story that got 3 votes (* Little Red Cap, * The Golden Goose), read that story and read a book that in it’s own storyline has a connection to it.
4) pick a story that got 2 votes (*Six Swans, * Sleeping beauty, * Snow-white. * The Goose Girl, * The Three Spinners, * The Wolf and the seven little goats), read that story and read a book that in it’s own storyline has a connection to it.
5) pick a story that got 1 vote (* The frog prince, * The Wishing table, the gold ass and the cudgel in the sack, * Tom Thumb, * Town Musicians of Bremen), read that story and read a book that in it’s own storyline has a connection to it.
6) read 10 stories by the Brothers Grimm that were previously unknown to you and let us know which ones you read.
7) read the 6 Revolting Rhymes by Roald Dahl that are based on fairytales. They are: Cinderella, Jack and the Beanstalk, Snow White and the seven dwarves, Goldilocks, Red Riding Hood, The three Little Pigs. They can be found on the internet here: http://www.funny-poems.biz/roald_dahl...

When you update that you have finished a task please do so in the following manner: I have completed task 0 by reading the fairytale X and the book Y. The connection is Z.
I will only update your score in the scoreboard if you have updated like this.
This topic can be used both for your planning and updating.

[Barbara]

SCOREBOARD:


Varla Fiona - 7 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7)
Carolien - 7 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7)
Barbara - 7 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7)
Lauren S. - 7 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7)
Liezel - 7 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7)

Riana - 4 (2,5,6,7)
Lu - 3 (2,3,4)
Rochelle - 1 (7)
Sharle

[Barbara]

1) pick a story that got 5 votes (* Rapunzel, * Rumpelstiltskin), read that story and read a book that in it’s own storyline has a connection to it. Rumpelstiltskin - Key of Light. A deal is struck that might cost the main character something very precious
2) pick a story that got 4 votes (* Cinderella, *Hansel and Grethel), read that story and read a book that in it’s own storyline has a connection to it. Hansel and Grethel - A walk across the sun. A story about two siblings who are alone in the world and have to deal with evil people.
3) pick a story that got 3 votes (* Little Red Cap, * The Golden Goose), read that story and read a book that in it’s own storyline has a connection to it. Little Red Cap - read Derek's Bane. There is a big bad wolf in it.
4) pick a story that got 2 votes (*Six Swans, * Sleeping beauty, * Snow-white. * The Goose Girl, * The Three Spinners, * The Wolf and the seven little goats), read that story and read a book that in it’s own storyline has a connection to it. Sleeping Beauty - Key of Knowledge. The main characters are trying to save 3 sisters who have been asleep by a curse5) pick a story that got 1 vote (* The frog prince, * The Wishing table, the gold ass and the cudgel in the sack, * Tom Thumb, * Town Musicians of Bremen), read that story and read a book that in it’s own storyline has a connection to it. Town Musicians of Bremen - Undead and Unworthy. The main characters are friends and live together and are all of different "species" (vampires, humans, fiends, ghosts, werewolves)
6) read 10 stories by the Brothers Grimm that were previously unknown to you and let us know which ones you read.
1) Hans in Luck
2) THe Golden Bird
3) The Tom-Tit and the Bear
4) The Grateful Beasts
5) Jorinda and Jorindel
6) The Wonderful Musiscian
7) The Queen Bee
8) The Dog and the Sparrow
9) Old Sultan
10) Mrs. Fox
7) read the 6 Revolting Rhymes by Roald Dahl that are based on fairytales. They are: Cinderella, Jack and the Beanstalk, Snow White and the seven dwarves, Goldilocks, Red Riding Hood, The three Little Pigs. They can be found on the internet here: http://www.funny-poems.biz/roald_dahl...

[Lauren]

1) pick a story that got 5 votes (* Rapunzel, * Rumpelstiltskin), read that story and read a book that in it’s own storyline has a connection to it. - The Office of Mercy by Ariel Djanikian The main character has spent her entire life inside a building and can only look out at the natural world outside.She is not allowed to leave, until one day when she goes outside with the man she loves. She later makes it possible for outsiders to come in.

2) pick a story that got 4 votes (* Cinderella, *Hansel and Grethel), read that story and read a book that in it’s own storyline has a connection to it. - Carrie by Stephen King Carrie White is scorned by her mother and her peers, but then she gets to go to the prom with one of the most popular, handsome boys in school

3) pick a story that got 3 votes (* Little Red Cap, * The Golden Goose), read that story and read a book that in it’s own storyline has a connection to it. - Doughnut by Tom Holt At the beginning, the main character is assumed by everyone to be a complete loser. He has two selfish siblings. The only person who believes in him and tries to help him is an old man. This man gives the protagonist something valuable and unique that other people try (and fail) to obtain by duplicitous means. However, the protagonist is smart and by the end of the book he is extremely powerful.

4) pick a story that got 2 votes (*Six Swans, * Sleeping beauty, * Snow-white. * The Goose Girl, * The Three Spinners, * The Wolf and the seven little goats), read that story and read a book that in it’s own storyline has a connection to it. - Paprika by Yasutaka Tsutsui The main character is a stunningly beautiful "dream detective" and spends a lot of time inside people's dreams. There are times in the novel where she doesn't know if she's awake or asleep, and when a man who loves her comes to wake her up from a deep sleep that she cannot otherwise escape.

5) pick a story that got 1 vote (* The frog prince, * The Wishing table, the gold ass and the cudgel in the sack, * Tom Thumb, * Town Musicians of Bremen), read that story and read a book that in it’s own storyline has a connection to it. - Wolfhound Century by Peter Higgins. One of the main characters comes to care about a man who initially disgusts her but does his best to help her. The man himself has spent most of his life under a kind of enchantment or physical binding from which he is released during the events of the novel.


6) read 10 stories by the Brothers Grimm that were previously unknown to you and let us know which ones you read.
- Our Lady's Child
- The Pink
- The Three Snake Leaves
- The Moon
- The Crumbs on the Table
- The Sole
- Death's Messengers
- The Jew Among Thorns
- The Beam
- The Duration of Life

7) read the 6 Revolting Rhymes by Roald Dahl that are based on fairytales. They are: Cinderella, Jack and the Beanstalk, Snow White and the seven dwarves, Goldilocks, Red Riding Hood, The three Little Pigs. They can be found on the internet here: http://www.funny-poems.biz/roald_dahl...

7/7

[Lu]

I'm in!

1) pick a story that got 5 votes (* Rapunzel, * Rumpelstiltskin), read that story and read a book that in it’s own storyline has a connection to it.

✔2) - a retelling off Cinderella

✔3) - retelling of little red riding hood

✔4) - Sleeping beauty - A witch is putting beautiful young girls with magic powers in a coma by taking their youth and powers.

5) pick a story that got 1 vote (* The frog prince, * The Wishing table, the gold ass and the cudgel in the sack, * Tom Thumb, * Town Musicians of Bremen), read that story and read a book that in it’s own storyline has a connection to it.

6) read 10 stories by the Brothers Grimm that were previously unknown to you and let us know which ones you read.

7) read the 6 Revolting Rhymes by Roald Dahl that are based on fairytales. They are: Cinderella, Jack and the Beanstalk, Snow White and the seven dwarves, Goldilocks, Red Riding Hood, The three Little Pigs. They can be found on the internet here: http://www.funny-poems.biz/roald_dahl...

3/7

To work in:

[Liezel]

1) pick a story that got 5 votes (* Rapunzel, * Rumpelstiltskin), read that story and read a book that in it’s own storyline has a connection to it. Rapunzel - Girl of Nightmares Anna is trapped in 'hell' by the Obeahman and when Cas finds out he does everything he can to save her, not caring that it might cost him his life

2) pick a story that got 4 votes (* Cinderella, *Hansel and Grethel), read that story and read a book that in it’s own storyline has a connection to it. Hansel & Gretel - If You Find Me siblings living in the woods after their mother leaves them to fend for themselves

3) pick a story that got 3 votes (* Little Red Cap, * The Golden Goose), read that story and read a book that in it’s own storyline has a connection to it. Scarlet

4) pick a story that got 2 votes (*Six Swans, * Sleeping beauty, * Snow-white. * The Goose Girl, * The Three Spinners, * The Wolf and the seven little goats), read that story and read a book that in it’s own storyline has a connection to it.Snow-White Altered the genetically altered boys have to keep Anna away from the branch who want to get rid of her to achieve their goal of controlling the boys

5) pick a story that got 1 vote (* The frog prince, * The Wishing table, the gold ass and the cudgel in the sack, * Tom Thumb, * Town Musicians of Bremen), read that story and read a book that in it’s own storyline has a connection to it.Town Musicians of Bremen - Un Lun Dun - the citizens of Un Lundun work together to rid Un Lundun of the bad guys

6) read 10 stories by the Brothers Grimm that were previously unknown to you and let us know which ones you read.
- Our Lady's Child
- The Story of the Youth Who Went Forth to Learn What Fear Was
- The twelve brothers
- The three little men in the wood
- Straw, coal, and bean
- Mother Hulda
- Clever Else
- The robber bridegroom
- The golden bird
- Frederick and Catherine

7) read the 6 Revolting Rhymes by Roald Dahl that are based on fairytales. They are: Cinderella, Jack and the Beanstalk, Snow White and the seven dwarves, Goldilocks, Red Riding Hood, The three Little Pigs. They can be found on the internet here: http://www.funny-poems.biz/roald_dahl...
7/7

[Varla Fiona]

Me too! This one is going to be fun...

5/7

✔1) Rumpelstiltskin & The Rook - Child taken away from parents
✔2) Cinderella & Cinder - Step mother hates her (basically the whole book is a connection)
✔3) Little Red Cap & Scarlet - Wolf follows her to Grandma's place (Book based on story so lots of connections)
4) Snow-white & Before The Poison - His wife dies and he looks for a fresh start
5) The frog prince (read) & On the Island - She comes to love him despite everything (I suspect - I haven't read it yet!)
✔6) 10 Grimm stories I have never read:
- The Fisherman's Wife
- The Robber Bridegroom
- Jorinda & Joringel
- The Wishing Table, The Gold-Ass & The Cudgel in the Sack
- The Story of the Youth Who Went Forth to Learn What fear Was
- The Wolf and the Seven Little Kids
- The Hare & the Hedgehog
- Snow-White & Rose-Red
- Iron John
- The Goose-Girl
✔7) Revolting Rhymes

[Varla Fiona]

I think I will buy Revolting Rhymes, and maybe a Grimm collection for this challenge...

[Riana]

Let's do this!!!!

1) My Name is Rapunzel
DONE: 2) Cinder
3) Cloaked in Red
4) DEWITCHED: The Untold Story of the Evil Queen
DONE: 5) Shiver: The character fell in love with an animal - that also turns human
DONE: 6) read 10 stories by the Brothers Grimm that were previously unknown to you and let us know which ones you read.
The aged mother
The Bremen Town Musicians
Brides on their trail
The bright sun brings it to light
The wolf & the Seven Young Kids
The heavenly wedding
The girl without hands
The crystal ball
The hut in the forest
The devil with the three golden hairs

DONE: 7) read the 6 Revolting Rhymes by Roald Dahl

[Carolien]

1) pick a story that got 5 votes (* Rapunzel, * Rumpelstiltskin), read that story and read a book that in it’s own storyline has a connection to it.
Completed Francona: The Red Sox Years for Rapunzel. In 2004 the hero arrives to break a 86 year old curse - the happily ever after part is more problematic. Read Rapunzel and Rumpelstiltskin (and actually watched The Sleeping Beauty on Monday).

2) pick a story that got 4 votes (* Cinderella, *Hansel and Grethel), read that story and read a book that in it’s own storyline has a connection to it.
Completed Soulless for Cinderalla - the stepsister walks away with the prince. Read Aschenputtel.

3) pick a story that got 3 votes (* Little Red Cap, * The Golden Goose), read that story and read a book that in it’s own storyline has a connection to it.
Completed The Wolf Gift Wolf in both stories, the line "The better to hear you with" is used since the wolf has sharp hearing. Read Little Red Cap.

4) pick a story that got 2 votes (*Six Swans, * Sleeping beauty, * Snow-white. * The Goose Girl, * The Three Spinners, * The Wolf and the seven little goats), read that story and read a book that in it’s own storyline has a connection to it.
Completed Airman. A princess that needs rescuing - Sleeping Beauty

5) pick a story that got 1 vote (* The frog prince, * The Wishing table, the gold ass and the cudgel in the sack, * Tom Thumb, * Town Musicians of Bremen), read that story and read a book that in it’s own storyline has a connection to it.
Completed Rock Me Amadeus. It is a history of classical music so most musicians and musical instruments feature. Read the Town Musicians of Bremen.

6) read 10 stories by the Brothers Grimm that were previously unknown to you and let us know which ones you read.
Completed
The Rabbit's Bride
Six Soldiers of Fortune
Clever Grethel
The Death of the Hen
Hans in Luck
The Raven
Faithful John
The Wonderful Musician
The twelve brothers
The Vagabonds

7) read the 6 Revolting Rhymes by Roald Dahl that are based on fairytales. They are: Cinderella, Jack and the Beanstalk, Snow White and the seven dwarves, Goldilocks, Red Riding Hood, The three Little Pigs. They can be found on the internet here: http://www.funny-poems.biz/roald_dahl...
Completed Revolting Rhymes

7/7

[Riana]

I have completed task 7 - Read the Revolting Rhymes

[Sharle]

1) pick a story that got 5 votes (* Rapunzel, * Rumpelstiltskin), read that story and read a book that in it’s own storyline has a connection to it.

2) pick a story that got 4 votes (* Cinderella, *Hansel and Grethel), read that story and read a book that in it’s own storyline has a connection to it.

3) pick a story that got 3 votes (* Little Red Cap, * The Golden Goose), read that story and read a book that in it’s own storyline has a connection to it.

4) pick a story that got 2 votes (*Six Swans, * Sleeping beauty, * Snow-white. * The Goose Girl, * The Three Spinners, * The Wolf and the seven little goats), read that story and read a book that in it’s own storyline has a connection to it.

5) pick a story that got 1 vote (* The frog prince, * The Wishing table, the gold ass and the cudgel in the sack, * Tom Thumb, * Town Musicians of Bremen), read that story and read a book that in it’s own storyline has a connection to it.

6) read 10 stories by the Brothers Grimm that were previously unknown to you and let us know which ones you read.

7) read the 6 Revolting Rhymes by Roald Dahl that are based on fairytales. They are: Cinderella, Jack and the Beanstalk, Snow White and the seven dwarves, Goldilocks, Red Riding Hood, The three Little Pigs. They can be found on the internet here: http://www.funny-poems.biz/roald_dahl...

[Varla Fiona]

Finished

Task 2: Cinderella and Cinder - Hated by her step-mother (Based on the Cinderella story so basically the entire book is a connection.)

and

Task 7: Revolting Rhymes

2/7

[Varla Fiona]

Riana wrote: "Let's do this!!!!

1) My Name is Rapunzel
2) Cinder
3) Cloaked in Red
4) The Goose Girl
5) The Frog Princess
6) read 10 stories by the Brothers Grimm that were previously unknown to you and let us ..."

I was checking out which books you choose as some of them looked really good. I noticed that Cloaked in Red is only 127 pages long, which means it can't be used for a challenge. Sorry! The sequel to Cinder has just come out though and would qualify for this task...

[Riana]

Varla Fiona wrote: "Riana wrote: "Let's do this!!!!

1) My Name is Rapunzel
2) Cinder
3) Cloaked in Red
4) The Goose Girl
5) The Frog Princess
6) read 10 stories by the Brothers Grimm that were previously unknown to y..."

Oh I didn't even check the number of pages! Thanks for telling me! Will find something else.

[Carolien]

Completed task 7.

[Varla Fiona]

Finished Task 3

Little Red Cap & Scarlet - Wolf follows her to Grandma's place (Book based on story so lots of connections)

3/7

[Rochelle]

2) Cinder (complete)
7) Revolting Rhymes (complete)

[Barbara]

updated!

[Lauren]

I've been reading some fantastic short stories based on fairytales! I wish I could use them, *sigh*.

[Varla Fiona]

Finished task 6:

✔6) 10 Grimm stories I have never read:
- The Fisherman's Wife
- The Robber Bridegroom
- Jorinda & Joringel
- The Wishing Table, The Gold-Ass & The Cudgel in the Sack
- The Story of the Youth Who Went Forth to Learn What fear Was
- The Wolf and the Seven Little Kids
- The Hare & the Hedgehog
- Snow-White & Rose-Red
- Iron John
- The Goose-Girl

4/7

[Varla Fiona]

Finished Task 1

✔1) Rumpelstiltskin (read) & The Rook - Child taken away from parents

5/7

[Carolien]

Finished Task 4

Airman - a princess needs rescuing - Sleeping Beauty (read)

[Lu]

Finished:

✔2) - a retelling off Cinderella

[Barbara]

I read the revolting rhymes for task 7

[Lauren]

I've been neglecting this challenge, but I've read 3 books that can be used:

- The Office of Mercy by Ariel Djanikian for task 1 (Rapunzel) The main character has spent her entire life inside a building and can only look out at the natural world outside.She is not allowed to leave, until one day when she goes outside with the man she loves. She later makes it possible for outsiders to come in.

- Carrie by Stephen King for task 2 (Cinderella) Carrie White is scorned by her mother and her peers, but then she gets to go to the prom with one of the most popular, handsome boys in school

- Paprika by Yasutaka Tsutsui for task 4 (Sleeping Beauty) The main character is a stunningly beautiful "dream detective" and spends a lot of time inside people's dreams. There are times in the novel where she doesn't know if she's awake or asleep, and when a man who loves her comes to wake her up from a deep sleep that she cannot otherwise escape.

Score: 3/7

[Barbara]

Me too. I haven't had time yet to do some thinking, but I am sure one or two of the books I read can be used. I just need to find the time to go through them. :)

Can you please edit your comment to include the connection? Thanks!

[Lauren]

Done :)

I need to read the stories for the other tasks - I don't know them all and I'm sure I can find some connections, especially since their tropes have become so common in fiction.

[Lauren]

I read the 6 Revolting Rhymes for task 7. Loved those! Especially the ending of The Three Little Pigs :)

4/7

[Carolien]

Completed Task 3. Read The Wolf Gift. Wolf in both stories, the line "The better to hear you with" is used since the wolf has sharp hearing. Read Little Red Cap.

Completed task 6. Read:
The Rabbit's Bride
Six Soldiers of Fortune
Clever Grethel
The Death of the Hen
Hans in Luck
The Raven
Faithful John
The Wonderful Musician
The twelve brothers
The Vagabonds

+2 4/7

[Riana]

Finished task 2 Cinder

2/7

[Varla Fiona]

Finished Task 5

5) Frog Prince and UnWholly - She is forced to live with someone she is repulsed by, but comes to care for him.

6/7

[Barbara]

Riana wrote: "Finished task 2 Cinder

2/7"

Could you please also mention the story you picked and what the connection is? It is sort of selfevident with Cinder but just to make sure everything is complete and for further tasks it is important.

[Barbara]

Updated!

[Varla Fiona]

Finished Task 4

4)Wolf and seven kids & Etiquette & Espionage - Youngsters learning and applying how to be sneaky and get out of difficult situations.

7/7

All done! Challenge completed.

[Lauren]

Well done!

[Carolien]

Well done!

[Varla Fiona]

Thanks! I want to try and read all the Grimm stories this year as well.

[Lauren]

Do you like them, or do you just want to know about them? I find them really weird and rather flat - interesting to know about, but not pleasurable to read.

[Varla Fiona]

I find them quite monotonous, very similar stories. I didn't realise there were so many so now I want to read them all so I know I haven't missed any good ones. I'm glad I have the year to do it as I get bored with the monotony.

[Lauren]

Yes, and some of them are very disturbing (violent, amoral, etc.), in a bland kind of way. I much prefer what contemporary writers do with the stories.

[Barbara]

Varla Fiona wrote: "Finished Task 4

4)Wolf and seven kids & Etiquette & Espionage - Youngsters learning and applying how to be sneaky and get out of difficult situations.

7/7

All done! Challenge completed."

Congrats!

I think I am going to steal your idea and use that book for that task too!

The stories were written with a reason and a message. We aren't used to stories with a reason anymore. We read stories just for fun not to learn. That often makes stories with a message a bit boring. Especially if you read loads of them at one time. So spread them out read a couple each week and you will like them more.

[Lauren]

I don't know... I like to learn things from novels, but I actually found that some of the stories seemed to have no reason or lesson, unless the point was just to illustrate how horribly unfair and tragic life can be.

[Barbara]

Which of the stories are you talking about? Maybe you just missed the point?

[Lauren]

It's been a while since I read my Grimm collection (and I found it quite forgettable), but I skimmed over the stories and found two of the kind I mean:
"The Death of the Hen" - I understand that the hen dies for being greedy, but why does everyone else die too?
"The Straw, the Coal and the Bean" - so the story explains why beans have seams, but what about the poor straw and coal? They did nothing wrong.

Many of the stories seem appallingly unfair - people die or are horribly punished for relatively small things. Or they do horrible things and are rewarded or portrayed as the good guys.

[Riana]

Finished task 6 -
The aged mother
The Bremen Town Musicians
Brides on their trail
The bright sun brings it to light
The wolf & the Seven Young Kids
The heavenly wedding
The girl without hands
The crystal ball
The hut in the forest
The devil with the three golden hairs

3/7

[Lauren]

I've completed task 6. Here are my 10 stories:
- Our Lady's Child
- The Pink
- The Three Snake Leaves
- The Moon
- The Crumbs on the Table
- The Sole
- Death's Messengers
- The Jew Among Thorns
- The Beam
- The Duration of Life

Total: 5/7

[Carolien]

Completed Task 2. Read Soulless for Cinderalla - the stepsister walks away with the prince. Read Aschenputtel.

5/7

[Liezel]

Finished 2,6 &7
2) Hansel and Grethel & If You Find Me siblings living in the forest after their mother leaves them to fend for themselves

6) read the 10 stories below
- Our Lady's Child
- The Story of the Youth Who Went Forth to Learn What Fear Was
- The twelve brothers
- The three little men in the wood
- Straw, coal, and bean
- Mother Hulda
- Clever Else
- The robber bridegroom
- The golden bird
- Frederick and Catherine

7) read the 6 Revolting Rhymes by Roald Dahl
3/7

[Riana]

Finished task 5: Shiver - the character falls in love with an animal that turns human