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Challenge #11 (Feb/Mar 2013): Tasks & Questions
CHALLENGE #11 TASK LIST:
5.1 Laissez les bons temps rouler!: In honor of Mardi Gras (and my hometown), read a book that has a green, gold and/or purple. At least 50% of the cover must one or more of these colors.
5.2 The big game: Read a book that features a sporting event or some type of competition in its plot.
5.3 Young at heart: In honor of Youth Day in Britain (March 29), read a young adult novel.
10.1 What’s in the middle? In honor of “Middle Name Pride Day” (Mar 10th), read a book where the author or a main character have the same name (first or last) as your middle name. If you do not have a middle name, then use one of your parents.
10.2 In case of emergency: In honor of Red Cross month (March), read a book featuring a natural disaster (storm, earthquake, volcano eruption)
10.3 Happy (Chinese) New Year: Read a book first published a year of the snake: 1905, 1917, 1929, 1941, 1953, 1965, 1977, 1989, 2001, 2013
15.1 The sun never sets on the british empire In honor of Commonwealth Day (March 11): Read a book set in one of the commonwealth countries (see Commonwealth Countries for full listing)
15.2. Is the book always better than the movie? Read a book that has been made into a movie.
15.3 Renaissance Man: In honor of Michelangelo's birthday (March 6), read a book which either features an artist as a main character or features an artwork in the plot.
20.1 Beware of the Ides of March: Read a HF book set during the time of the Roman Empire.
20.2Supporting our own: Read a HF book by an author who qualified for our Featured Author Group Read. Go to Featured Authors - 2012 and look at posts: 31,49, and 57. You can read any of the authors who qualified. You may also read the March Featured Author Group Read: The Golden Lynx
20.3 Sweet on you: In honor of International Flirting day and Valentine’s day, read a HF book featuring a couple where each person comes from a different country.
25.1 Spring cleaning those shelves Read 2 HF from your TBR (books you already own) list.
25.2 Big Books: Read a 500 page HF book or over book which has gotten a 5 star rating from another member of Historical Fictionistas.
25.3 Celebrating History: For this task you will read two books:
In honor of Black History month (February), read a book from Black History Month Listopia
In honor of Woman’s History month (March), read a book from Woman in Historical Fiction Listopea
50.1 Ultimate Historical Reads: Read three HF books from the HF Ultimate Reading List
50.2 New Year, New Reads: For this task, you will use some of the features of GR to discover new reads; no re-reads are allowed. All tasks must be completed to get points, but you may want to plan all the books at the same time.
100.1 Best of the 2012: Read 4 books from the GR Reader Choice Awards. One book must be from the historical fiction genre, and all books can be nominees or winners.
Post questions below in this thread.The Golden Lynx
5.1 Laissez les bons temps rouler!: In honor of Mardi Gras (and my hometown), read a book that has a green, gold and/or purple. At least 50% of the cover must one or more of these colors.
5.2 The big game: Read a book that features a sporting event or some type of competition in its plot.
5.3 Young at heart: In honor of Youth Day in Britain (March 29), read a young adult novel.
10.1 What’s in the middle? In honor of “Middle Name Pride Day” (Mar 10th), read a book where the author or a main character have the same name (first or last) as your middle name. If you do not have a middle name, then use one of your parents.
10.2 In case of emergency: In honor of Red Cross month (March), read a book featuring a natural disaster (storm, earthquake, volcano eruption)
10.3 Happy (Chinese) New Year: Read a book first published a year of the snake: 1905, 1917, 1929, 1941, 1953, 1965, 1977, 1989, 2001, 2013
15.1 The sun never sets on the british empire In honor of Commonwealth Day (March 11): Read a book set in one of the commonwealth countries (see Commonwealth Countries for full listing)
15.2. Is the book always better than the movie? Read a book that has been made into a movie.
15.3 Renaissance Man: In honor of Michelangelo's birthday (March 6), read a book which either features an artist as a main character or features an artwork in the plot.
20.1 Beware of the Ides of March: Read a HF book set during the time of the Roman Empire.
20.2Supporting our own: Read a HF book by an author who qualified for our Featured Author Group Read. Go to Featured Authors - 2012 and look at posts: 31,49, and 57. You can read any of the authors who qualified. You may also read the March Featured Author Group Read: The Golden Lynx
20.3 Sweet on you: In honor of International Flirting day and Valentine’s day, read a HF book featuring a couple where each person comes from a different country.
25.1 Spring cleaning those shelves Read 2 HF from your TBR (books you already own) list.
25.2 Big Books: Read a 500 page HF book or over book which has gotten a 5 star rating from another member of Historical Fictionistas.
25.3 Celebrating History: For this task you will read two books:
In honor of Black History month (February), read a book from Black History Month Listopia
In honor of Woman’s History month (March), read a book from Woman in Historical Fiction Listopea
50.1 Ultimate Historical Reads: Read three HF books from the HF Ultimate Reading List
50.2 New Year, New Reads: For this task, you will use some of the features of GR to discover new reads; no re-reads are allowed. All tasks must be completed to get points, but you may want to plan all the books at the same time.
Book 1: Read a HF book from the GR recommendations from the Historical Fiction genre. To do this, select Recommendations from the menu and then scroll to genres and pick Historical Fiction. (NOTE: please validate that the book also meets our group’s definition of historical fiction).
Book 2: Read a HF book by a “new to you author” by looking at the “Readers also enjoyed similar books” section of the main page. You will need to scroll down and look on the right-hand side of the page.
Book 3: Go to the author page for Book 2’s author. If you scroll down to the author’s book section on the right, the first line of this section will have a link to similar authors.. Click on this link to pick another “new to you” author and read a book by them.
100.1 Best of the 2012: Read 4 books from the GR Reader Choice Awards. One book must be from the historical fiction genre, and all books can be nominees or winners.
Post questions below in this thread.The Golden Lynx

Thanks!
It's per task, Rebecca. If you do 5.2, you earn 5 points, plus bonuses, even if you don't do any of the other tasks.

I'm also having trouble finding this one
"Book 3: Go to the author page for Book 2’s author. If you scroll down to the author’s book section on the right, the first line of this section will have a link to similar authors.. Click on this link to pick another “new to you” author and read a book by them."
I'm looking at Julie Otsuka 's page, but I don't see anything that says similar authors.

Rebecca wrote: "Thanks!
I'm also having trouble finding this one
"Book 3: Go to the author page for Book 2’s author. If you scroll down to the author’s book section on the right, the first line of this section wi..."
The link is right under the header for "Julie Otsuka's Books":
Average rating: 3.59 · 15,399 ratings · 3,242 reviews · 5 distinct works · Similar authors
I'm also having trouble finding this one
"Book 3: Go to the author page for Book 2’s author. If you scroll down to the author’s book section on the right, the first line of this section wi..."
The link is right under the header for "Julie Otsuka's Books":
Average rating: 3.59 · 15,399 ratings · 3,242 reviews · 5 distinct works · Similar authors
Becky is correct --- the intention of task 25.1 is to read some of the books that you already own as people keep requesting TBR challenges in the feedback thread.


Regarding 15.1 will you accept Burma (formerly occupied by Britain)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burma#Br...
as a Commonwealth country?
for The Art of Hearing Heartbeats
@Christina -- I think the link is fixed (although I have no idea why, perhaps it didn't like the 's in the title.
@Holly -- no, I won't accept Burma as the commonwealth of nations is meant to where they recognize the sovereignty of the British monarchy --- in Burma, they were not happy to be occupied by the British. (however, it is a good book so you should read it anyway ;-))
@Holly -- no, I won't accept Burma as the commonwealth of nations is meant to where they recognize the sovereignty of the British monarchy --- in Burma, they were not happy to be occupied by the British. (however, it is a good book so you should read it anyway ;-))
Linda, I'm not sure if this will work for you, since we have the group set that only mods can add books, but maybe it will let you go far enough to see this page.
http://www.goodreads.com/group/show_b...
How I got there:
- Go to the group Bookshelf
- On the left, type the title in the "add" field at the top and click search
- On the results page, you should see the title, author, star rating, and then underneath there would be a link saying "View Group Reviews" which shows who has rated or reviewed the book in the group.
Can you try that and see if it will work?
http://www.goodreads.com/group/show_b...
How I got there:
- Go to the group Bookshelf
- On the left, type the title in the "add" field at the top and click search
- On the results page, you should see the title, author, star rating, and then underneath there would be a link saying "View Group Reviews" which shows who has rated or reviewed the book in the group.
Can you try that and see if it will work?

Update: Yep worked for me! Thanks!


Thanks again.


@Nell -- use the genre recommendations -- it should be the section after your own bookshelves (vs using your own shelf --- I'm not sure that everyone has a historical fiction shelf)

The review bonus is for a review I write of the book?
I'm so confused, lol.

I don't have a HF shelf. When I click on HF under genre, the recommendations are based on books on my shelf. Scrolling on each book says the recommendation is based on a specific book.
@Nell -- OK, I didn't realize that it still looked at your shelves for the genre recommendations. You are in the correct place.
@Sandra: The challenge is to see how many tasks you can do during the two month period. We keep a running tally of points and publish a scoreboard for a little friendly competition. Yes, the review bonus is for you to write a review --- basically encouraging people to use GR. You may want to check out the Historical Fiction Challenge #10 to see how it works: http://www.goodreads.com/topic/show/9... The tasks are different but that is how the scoring works.
@Sandra: The challenge is to see how many tasks you can do during the two month period. We keep a running tally of points and publish a scoreboard for a little friendly competition. Yes, the review bonus is for you to write a review --- basically encouraging people to use GR. You may want to check out the Historical Fiction Challenge #10 to see how it works: http://www.goodreads.com/topic/show/9... The tasks are different but that is how the scoring works.

Sandra wrote: "Ok, thx. I am doing the HFU challenge too, so I hope to kill two birds with one stone. You people must do nothing but read, though. I thought I read a lot (145 books in 2012), with working full tim..."
Well --- I am nowhere near reading that much a month/year. Last year was my high of 83 --- but I found that I often went for shorter books due to challenges.
I also love finding books that check off multiple check-marks for various challenges --- that is part of the fun. Also getting exposed to new authors or genres. However, everyone needs to pick the their own goals for the challenges --- not everyone (including me) can usually finish, but we also want challenges that work for the speed-readers in the group. The important thing is to have fun!!!
Well --- I am nowhere near reading that much a month/year. Last year was my high of 83 --- but I found that I often went for shorter books due to challenges.
I also love finding books that check off multiple check-marks for various challenges --- that is part of the fun. Also getting exposed to new authors or genres. However, everyone needs to pick the their own goals for the challenges --- not everyone (including me) can usually finish, but we also want challenges that work for the speed-readers in the group. The important thing is to have fun!!!

@Sandra -- Without knowing where you are on the site, I'm not sure if I can answer your question. I'll try a couple of things.
At the top of all GoodReads pages is a "menu" which has a gray-ish background. It has Home, My Books, Groups, Recommendations, and Explore. If you click on "My Books", you are taken to your own set of bookshelves. Everyone starts out with the same: Read, Currently Reading, and To Read; these are exclusive shelves, meaning a book can only be on one of them at a time. You can also create additional shelves so that you can organize how you like. A book can be on multiple shelves of the ones that you create. As an example, I have a shelf called library, kindle and different genre categories because at the end of the year, I like to look at my stats by those categories.
When you are looking in a group, the group information is in the upper right corner (below the main menu bar). All the links in that section refer to the group, so the bookshelf that is located there is the bookshelf of the group. We place all the books that we have done group reads on the bookshelf.
If you are referring to another "bookshelf" tab, please paste a link of the page that you are looking at and I'd be happy to explain. GR is a bit overwhelming at first, but once you get used to it, it can be very powerful!
At the top of all GoodReads pages is a "menu" which has a gray-ish background. It has Home, My Books, Groups, Recommendations, and Explore. If you click on "My Books", you are taken to your own set of bookshelves. Everyone starts out with the same: Read, Currently Reading, and To Read; these are exclusive shelves, meaning a book can only be on one of them at a time. You can also create additional shelves so that you can organize how you like. A book can be on multiple shelves of the ones that you create. As an example, I have a shelf called library, kindle and different genre categories because at the end of the year, I like to look at my stats by those categories.
When you are looking in a group, the group information is in the upper right corner (below the main menu bar). All the links in that section refer to the group, so the bookshelf that is located there is the bookshelf of the group. We place all the books that we have done group reads on the bookshelf.
If you are referring to another "bookshelf" tab, please paste a link of the page that you are looking at and I'd be happy to explain. GR is a bit overwhelming at first, but once you get used to it, it can be very powerful!

Sandra wrote: "It was the group information tab, so they were the group's books. I found my books and have now started creating shelves; that's a lot of work organizing my read books. Therefore, I won't organize ..."
Yes, it is a great tool. I actually use my to-read shelf to indicate books that I own but haven't read. I created a wishlist shelf (that I made exclusive) to indicate books that I'm interested in. The reason is that I was "double-buying books" (especially Kindle and paperback format) so now I use GR as my inventory. Since there is an iPhone app, I always have my library with me to look up when I'm shopping! It did take me a while to get this set-up. Good luck!
Yes, it is a great tool. I actually use my to-read shelf to indicate books that I own but haven't read. I created a wishlist shelf (that I made exclusive) to indicate books that I'm interested in. The reason is that I was "double-buying books" (especially Kindle and paperback format) so now I use GR as my inventory. Since there is an iPhone app, I always have my library with me to look up when I'm shopping! It did take me a while to get this set-up. Good luck!

Yes, I was thinking the same thing --- but I was organizing my books last night and realized that I am doing more challenge-y type things than last year (and that doesn't include the ones here :-D).
Anyway --- I'm glad that you guys like them!
Anyway --- I'm glad that you guys like them!

Yes, that is fine Cassie --- it's nice to hear that there are people who are not hoarders like me.


Thanks JoLene :). I'd probably be more of a book hoarder if my library wasn't so good here.
Jill wrote: "I'm sorry if the answer to my question is listed, but I can't find it...if we read a book that covers two tasks(ie: listed on Woman in Historical Fiction Listopea and another task) can I count it f..."
@Jill --- no, you can only count a book once for each challenge. You can use one book to fulfill tasks in other challenges like the HFU challenge as well.
@Jill --- no, you can only count a book once for each challenge. You can use one book to fulfill tasks in other challenges like the HFU challenge as well.

I know it has the time-travel element so I was thinking that might disqualify it based on the HF rules...?


Good to know! I'll be reading it one way or another as it fits into my HFU plan as well as another challenge I'm doing. Since it's SUCH a big book, though, I'm trying to get it to fit in as many things as I can ;).

@CassieV -- it can't be a time-travel book for HF. (Sorry, just being consistent with rules that had been established earlier --- but I really enjoyed that book)
@Sandra --- many of the lower point books can be any genre, but you will get a bonus point if you read a HF fiction book for those tasks as well (and claim it).
@Sandra --- many of the lower point books can be any genre, but you will get a bonus point if you read a HF fiction book for those tasks as well (and claim it).
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Participants may join at any time during the challenge. All points must be reported by 11:59pm EST on March 31, 2013 to be counted.
During February and March, we will return to our usual task-based challenge. You may do the tasks in any order, but task can only be scored once. Any books that you read can also be claimed for other challenges (like HFU).
RULES:
1) Books must be Historical Fiction if specified as HF. If no specification is made, the book can be ANY genre. The definition of historical fiction that our group uses is a work published at least 50 years after at least half of the events in the work. Historical fantasy, alternate history and magical realism books are not considered historical fiction for our group.
2) Books must be at least 200 pages long. Eligibility for this is determined by THE MOST POPULAR EDITION OF THE BOOK ON GOODREADS -- NOT the edition you actually read. If the most popular edition is 197 pages, it will not count, even if the edition read is 215 pages.
To determine the most popular edition on Goodreads, simply do a title/author search - the first result that matches your book is the most popular edition on GR. If the first book is an audio book or ebook without page numbers, then use the 2nd book shown in the editions.
3) The first book used for the challenge should be started on or after February 1st.
4) Re-reads and audiobooks are accepted unless specified otherwise in the task. (Audiobook page counts will be determined by the most popular edition on Goodreads.)
SCORING:
5) Task categories are assigned a point value, and points are awarded ONE TIME once all parts of the task are complete. When claiming a book, please link to the TITLE of the book (the most popular one) using the add book/author link above the comment box. If the task involves a cover, then also add the cover link (this is a radio button at the bottom of the dialog box to add a link for the book).
For multi-book tasks, please post only when ALL of the books are completed.
6) There are several opportunities to earn Bonus Points. Bonus points will be awarded PER BOOK READ when task points are awarded. Partial task points and/or bonus points (page count, HF point, etc) will NOT be awarded if the task is unfinished. Bonus points can only be claimed when task points are claimed (so make sure to check your postings)
6a) Book Length Bonus:
Bonus points will be awarded based on the length of each book read, as follows:
200 to 300 pages = 2 bonus points
301 to 500 pages = 4 bonus points
501 to 750 pages = 6 bonus points
751 to 1,000 pages = 8 bonus points
1,000+ = 10 bonus points
6b) Historical Fiction Bonus = 1 point
WE WILL NOT AWARD HF POINTS IF IT IS NOT REPORTED.
6c) Review Bonus = 5 points
In order to receive these points:
- You MUST link to the review in the scoring thread. If it is not directly linked, points will not be awarded. The review must be on GoodReads, not a blog post.
- It must be a legitimate review as determined by scorekeeper; Good book or liked it will not be considered as a legitimate review
- Review must be done when claiming task bonus points.
7) A separate scoring thread will be opened prior to February 1st.
8) HAVE FUN!!!