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message 1: by Rob (new)

Rob Twinem (runner56) OK I realize that we at goodreads would not be all talking to each other if not for social networking! Do we not however suffer from networking overkill...facebook, twitter, my space etc...how did we ever survive without them?


message 2: by Karolyn (new)

Karolyn I do agree with you. I love that I can connect with friends and family and see pictures and comments. But it does take up time I could be using more wisely.


message 3: by Laura (new)

Laura Ruetz (minerva451) | 17 comments i think it is a great way to be able to get resources you might not be able to get otherwise. animal rescue groups use facebook to network animals and get pledges and donations, and even drivers to help transport animals to people out of state who want to adopt them. when my cat was very sick and i couldn't pay the vet bill, some friends suggested i start a chip in from chipin.com and i did and they shared it on their wall and in two weeks, my vet bill was paid. social media can be a very useful tool for small businesses, bloggers, non-profits, etc. Right now, i personally spend too much time on there, but i am unemployed and a gamer, so I am being excessive on my time, especially healing from round two of surgery on a toe that isn't improving.


message 4: by KME (new)

KME (ljsupafly) | 3 comments I have a love/hate relationship with social networking. There are days where I can't get enough information and others where I need a digital detox.


message 5: by Angela (new)

Angela (glamourass1) | -1 comments Social media is part of my job... so I'll just say I am very thankful for it :)


message 6: by Rob (last edited Jan 17, 2013 03:02PM) (new)

Rob Twinem (runner56) Kristine Marie wrote: "I have a love/hate relationship with social networking. There are days where I can't get enough information and others where I need a digital detox."

I feel the same...this is social networking on goodreads and it is fun and informative but I can't help feeling that what happens on facebook and the like is just an idle form of time wasting....better of reading a book!...as an aside I can't imagine life without google, I seem to use it every minute of everyday


message 7: by Angela (new)

Angela (glamourass1) | -1 comments Jenni wrote: "Angela wrote: "Social media is part of my job... so I'll just say I am very thankful for it :)"

You're a righter, write? I mean a writer, right? I guess you would use it for advertising and Kind..."


Eh... I am a content writer/blogger and manage social media sites for a health company.


message 8: by Mike (new)

Mike The only time I really have issue with it is when someone is so attached to their lifeline that they can't hold a real life conversation without glancing at their messages -- text, twitter, etc. -- every few minutes. That is EXTREMELY annoying to me!


message 9: by Angela (new)

Angela (glamourass1) | -1 comments Jenni wrote: "Mike wrote: "The only time I really have issue with it is when someone is so attached to their lifeline that they can't hold a real life conversation without glancing at their messages -- text, twi..."

I've seen the movie. It's a pretty crazy one.


message 10: by Shirley (new)

Shirley (shirleythekindlereader) I have stopped using them very much since there have been so many problems.

I just added more reading groups.


message 11: by Angel (new)

Angel (angel4sue) | 15 comments Moderation


message 12: by Huda (new)

Huda Sarkowi | 176 comments One of my colleague was fired for bad-mouthing our branch manager on facebook. She didn't tag him on her status, but she did add him as friends on facebook. And she did wrote about 'my boss'. So who else could that be than our branch manager, right?


message 13: by Pat (new)

Pat Haggar (TheOldTart) | 9 comments You have to be soooo careful when using social networking sites. If you're going to bad mouth someone try to avoid doing it to your manager.


message 14: by F.T. (last edited Aug 23, 2013 03:25PM) (new)

F.T. Moore (ft_moore) | 7 comments I think some people have developed an addiction. At first, people got addicted to chat rooms, and then it switched to Facebook. We all respond to recognition, and when someone "likes" what you posted, it makes you want more. So I think as a society, it's becoming harmful. It's like a drug. We get a rush from it.

I'm primarily talking about Facebook here, because it's less of a problem when you're actually doing something, like conversing on Goodreads :-)


message 15: by F.T. (new)

F.T. Moore (ft_moore) | 7 comments Good science fiction is often predictive and revealing, isn't it?


message 16: by David (new)

David Freas (quillracer) | 2376 comments Like anything, it is a 2-edged sword.
It allows us to keep in contact with family and friends who live far away and share things with them almost instantly.
It can however become addictive as some have mentioned, and it has replaced to some extent face to face interaction.


message 17: by Scout (new)

Scout (goodreadscomscout) | 486 comments Putting your private business, or even your photos, on the Net can come back to bite you. Anyone can come along and use what you put out there to promote their own agenda.


message 18: by Robin (new)

Robin (goodreadscomtriviagoddessl) | 428 comments especially now with the wikileaks and the nsa scandal. It is not so good when your own government is spying on its own citizenry.


message 19: by F.T. (new)

F.T. Moore (ft_moore) | 7 comments What happens when the govt keeps databases like that? Even if the govt is trustworthy and full of integrity, the information gets out -- stolen or leaked -- and innocent people get targeted by political enemies. You end up with a govt full of blackmailed politicians.

A very bad situation.


message 20: by J. (new)

J. (jguenther) Pat wrote: "You have to be soooo careful when using social networking sites. If you're going to bad mouth someone try to avoid doing it to your manager."

I recently sat as an alternate on a jury in a murder trial. The victim had posted something very unwise on her page. Her partner had full access to her computer and her FB account. He read the open post. His sister saw the thread on her own computer and immediately advised the victim not to put things of that nature on her wall.

Later that day, there was another exchange in which the boyfriend read a PM from his partner to someone else. She returned home that night, and a tussle swiftly escalated into deadly violence.


message 21: by Robin (new)

Robin (goodreadscomtriviagoddessl) | 428 comments I think on some social networks too much is put out there, no one wants to know the daily lives of some relatives, maybe some do, but we don't need to ALL know about it. Keep a diary for goodness sakes. Or the ones who get bouquets of flowers from either their husband or their significant other and needs to post pictures of it, I get it your husbands or whomever are romantic, but geez louise enough, it is almost like show and tell at school gone amok.


message 22: by J. (new)

J. (jguenther) Robin wrote: "I think on some social networks too much is put out there, no one wants to know the daily lives of some relatives, maybe some do, but we don't need to ALL know about it. Keep a diary for goodness s..."

I agree. I think 80% of everything posted is boring at best, malicious at worst.


message 23: by Robin (new)

Robin (goodreadscomtriviagoddessl) | 428 comments I know someone who posted at least 100 pictures, my god I can't look at someone's pictures, either this person is a narcissist, or has LOTS of time on their hands.


message 24: by Patricia (new)

Patricia Dusenbury | 32 comments In many ways, it's up to you whether social networking is good or bad. Making "friends" with interesting people from distant places is totally cool, and you can learn a lot. Trolls and over-sharers aren't fun or interesting, but you can avoid them. The bad side happens if you put up something that can come back to bite you.


message 25: by Scout (new)

Scout (goodreadscomscout) | 486 comments Robin said: "It is almost like show and tell at school gone amok."

A thoughtful and accurate description! Usually rational adults are behaving like children.


message 26: by F.T. (new)

F.T. Moore (ft_moore) | 7 comments "Show and tell gone amok."

Great description. People seem to feel that they have privacy, and that they are speaking to actual friends, rather than random strangers. It's practically psy-ops.


message 27: by Robin (new)

Robin (goodreadscomtriviagoddessl) | 428 comments I know. and the millions of people who are looking in on their daily happenings.


message 28: by Scout (new)

Scout (goodreadscomscout) | 486 comments When a new criminal hits the national news, many times his information or photo on social media is used in the reporting. Talk about dumb crooks.


message 29: by Vishal (new)

Vishal Ajwani | 1 comments One thing can be done to cross social net sites is creating a teleporter..


Erin *Proud Book Hoarder* (erinpaperbackstash) I don find it too addicting sometimes but overall has been a great way to keep active in what's going on with friends lives and keep in touch.


message 31: by Katie (new)

Katie (skateanddonate) | 2 comments I disagree. Friends on social media are not strangers just because you have never met in person.

Many people I havenmet online have become close friends who I enjoy sharing my life with.

Those who object to oversharing should consider adjusting their notifications


message 32: by Feliks (last edited Jul 17, 2014 08:21PM) (new)

Feliks (dzerzhinsky) BS. Aka, 'bull'. Whatever minor convenience lazy individuals can 'crow about' with regard to social media--it hardly compares to the damage they're carelessly allowing to mount in kids' culture today. Oh sure, you're really setting a good example for them, chatting away 'non-stop', while your car is idling at an intersection and you are nattering on to someone in Kalamazoo, MI. Green light? Uh oh, better look up, mommy.

Selfish short-sightedness cannot mask the calamity that this unnecessary and silly technology represents. Does no one have a sense of history anymore? It is astounding to me that grown adults look first to the slightly-bettered efficiency of *their* own leisure time, as a justification for the harm now opened-up to their offspring.

'Chit-chat' toys for bored parents, oh err, how now, all of a sudden, is your 11-yr old watching hardcore porn and failing her English class? She's got the same phone as you have! Gee, I can't imagine what went wrong! The internet gave us the miracle of email--of which 90% is simply spam--what did anyone think social media would be? A Godsend? A way to instill responsible values in our young people while we play Tetris?

Uh oh, Facebook is now tracking consumer-marketing-preferences for your child, from cradle-to-grave.And their SS#'s have been hacked. How did that happen? No idea. Must be immoderate, 'over-sharers'.

Little Johnny was caught doing what in the locker room with who? And now he can't get a job because it went 'viral'? Oh snap, how did a thing like that happen? Let me ask my virtual friends (100,000 miles away) for advice!

Jesus wept...George Orwell is spinning in his grave..


message 33: by Marion (new)

Marion Coro | 189 comments Scout wrote: "Robin said: "It is almost like show and tell at school gone amok."

A thoughtful and accurate description! Usually rational adults are behaving like children."

My feelings on Social Networking can vary from one day to the next, but I think this can often be an apt description.




message 34: by Michael (new)

Michael (micky74007) Feliks wrote: "BS. Aka, 'bull'. Whatever minor convenience lazy individuals can 'crow about' with regard to social media--it hardly compares to the damage they're carelessly allowing to mount in kids' culture tod..."

Agreed.


message 35: by Feliks (new)

Feliks (dzerzhinsky) Without even re-reading, I know I was a little loud last night when I penned my last post. My apologies. Comments weren't directed at anyone here. No offense intended. It's just a hot-button topic with me. I reside in the Big Apple --a city crawling with idiots abusing their personal electronics--debasing the quality-of-life of everyone around them with really emphatic, casual, and glaring discourtesy. It's endemic. Hence my outburst. My bad.


message 36: by J. (new)

J. (jguenther) Feliks wrote: "Without even re-reading, I know I was a little loud last night when I penned my last post. My apologies. Comments weren't directed at anyone here. No offense intended. It's just a hot-button topic ..."

Thanks, Feliks. I'll admit after reading your earlier post, I scrolled back, wondering who is this guy? Now I know. Good to meet you!


message 37: by J. (new)

J. (jguenther) Jamie Lynn wrote: "There are times I miss the pre-social media era."

It's very much a mixed blessing. Facebook seems to bring out the worst in people, the mob instinct. It's caused at least one death that I know about, probably a lot more.


message 38: by David (new)

David Freas (quillracer) | 2376 comments I'm willing to bet our ancestors had the same doubts about the telegraph, telephone, radio, and television.

The bottom line is none of those older technologies or the modern entities we're discussing here is good or bad. It's the use we put them to that is beneficial or evil.


message 39: by J. (new)

J. (jguenther) Quillracer wrote: "I'm willing to bet our ancestors had the same doubts about the telegraph, telephone, radio, and television...."

I still have severe reservations about television...


Erin *Proud Book Hoarder* (erinpaperbackstash) Katie wrote: "I disagree. Friends on social media are not strangers just because you have never met in person.

Many people I havenmet online have become close friends who I enjoy sharing my life with.

Those ..."


Oh I agree. One of my top best friends I met at 21 and we stayed close friends until I was in my early thirties. He was disabled with muscular dystrophy and sadly passed away from a procedure clearing fluid out of a lung a few years back. I was crushed and definitely grieved as much as I would a friend I have offline. We would exchange gifts through the mail and talk over the phone for years too. He was here for me for so much support and changes through life.

I have another close friend from online I met through Goodreads. We've text daily now for over a year.


Erin *Proud Book Hoarder* (erinpaperbackstash) Jamie Lynn wrote: "All things can be good or evil. My friend used to say you can use a knife to kill your neighbor or you can use it to slice bread to feed the poor. It's the mentality of the individual who uses it. ..."

Exactly. It's not the tool, it's how you use it. I do agree so many have turned so strongly to social media that they don't exist as much anymore in real time interactions. It's annoying going to dinner with someone who keeps checking their text messages! I worked at the theatre and it was annoying someone would come and spend all that money to sit in the theatre on their phone. Seriously, they can't put it down for a few hours and watch a movie?


message 42: by David (new)

David Freas (quillracer) | 2376 comments Jamie Lynn wrote: "I have a pathetic cell phone. I can text and make phone calls...period haha! I live in a cave!"

That's all my wife and I have, Jamie Lynn, by choice. I have this somewhat Luddite notion that a phone is for making phone calls, not for taking pictures or surfing the web.


message 43: by J. (new)

J. (jguenther) DianeAlice wrote: "I don't use Facebook or Twitter, Facebook because I really don't think anyone wants to know every (very) boring little detail of my life and I just don't get Twitter at all, it's probably my age lo..."

Twitter is a great way to provide links to interesting stuff on your blog or on the net. Tweets are very fast to read, fast to write. I like Twitter much better than Facebook.


message 44: by Marion (last edited Jul 19, 2014 09:53PM) (new)

Marion Coro | 189 comments As already noted, things can be used for good or bad, and my feelings also vacillate about the merits of Facebook on a given day.

And while I do care about the impact Social Networking has on children, is everything I do supposed to be determined by that filter?

I wouldn't intentionally participate in anything that I felt was going to have a negative impact on children, and I do know people who spend more time on Facebook than they do tending to their children.

On the other hand, I don't have children, so I fail to see how my participation or lack thereof on Facebook is going to harm them.

It's a bit non-inclusive to assume that all of one's life choices be driven by whether or not they are kid-friendly. And yes, I like kids.


message 45: by Erin *Proud Book Hoarder* (last edited Jul 30, 2014 09:25AM) (new)

Erin *Proud Book Hoarder* (erinpaperbackstash) I'm really not seeing how Facebook is a direct threat to children. Something has gone wrong with at least one or two children and it, I'm sure, but that's with everything, not the norm. People overdo a lot of this stuff IMO


message 46: by Marie (new)

Marie Wow, no one has commented on here in three years! Dead thread back to life. lol

In my opinion, in this new day and age with so much technology it makes it very easy to connect with people all over the world. There are so many sites that can connect everyone together it just is amazing. Though I have facebook, I am not on it as much as I am on here. GR makes it real easy to make new friends and to connect to people that are book lovers as yourself. To me, I would rather be on here than be on facebook. I get so much more out of the experience being surrounded by book loving people. :)


message 47: by Eric (new)

Eric Klein (wheelguyeric102963) | 13 comments I feel social networking has made us too lazy to write a physical letter but if you're careful in showing your face to someone but your privates stay private then it's good. Some people go to the extremea and share everything without a care in the world.


message 48: by Eric (new)

Eric Klein (wheelguyeric102963) | 13 comments I feel social networking has made us too lazy to write a physical letter but if you're careful in showing your face to someone but your privates stay private then it's good. Some people go to the extremea and share everything without a care in the world.


message 49: by Betsy (new)

Betsy | 11554 comments Because of a disability, I find handwriting difficult so being online is a help although I rarely use social media. I must admit that I find the tendency to 'share' everything ridiculous and dangerous. Are people that desperate for 'friends'?


message 50: by Pamela (new)

Pamela Mclaren | 193 comments Betsy wrote: "Because of a disability, I find handwriting difficult so being online is a help although I rarely use social media. I must admit that I find the tendency to 'share' everything ridiculous and danger..."

I agree! And why are we interested in what our friends ate on any particular night? May be that they went somewhere other than bowling ... It is almost as if people have to find something to get on. And while pictures of puppies and kittens, piglets and baby elephants are cute, how much do I need to see them.

But I think that beyond how much of their lives people devote to it, its the idea that you can say anything on social media without having to deal with how you hurt and offend others that I find most troubling. People really say a lot of awful things out there.


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