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Zeenat (zeekwon) | 6376 comments Dresden Files!!! :) And some other books ... :::shrugs:::


Mello ❣ Illium ✮Harry✮ ☀Myrnin☀ Torin Ichimaru | 2012 comments Lol! You are on a Harry Dresden high.


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Zeenat (zeekwon) | 6376 comments I really am! I just started rereading storm front. So awesome.

It's fun to see how different some of the characters were early on. Same thing with Murphy and Harry's relationship. LOL.


Mello ❣ Illium ✮Harry✮ ☀Myrnin☀ Torin Ichimaru | 2012 comments I'll be reading books 3, 4 and 5 once I'm done with the book I'm reading now. I'm excited to get back to the series. I love me some Harry Dresden.


Valerie ~ Val Hall ~ | 1164 comments I even read his fantasy series (Codex Alera)...it's not as dark and quite nice too....and I liked the narrator's voice.


Mello ❣ Illium ✮Harry✮ ☀Myrnin☀ Torin Ichimaru | 2012 comments I really might have to check that series out after all.


message 7: by Claire (new)

Claire (claire1) | 4451 comments Just read Storm Front (The Dresden Files, #1) by Jim Butcher and Fool Moon (The Dresden Files, #2) by Jim Butcher . They were really good books. The mysteries are great and I really do like Dresden. I may give them 5 stars, though I'm a teensy bit disappointed in the world building. I want to know more about how Harry's wizard world works. And what the Nevernever is and such.


message 8: by Zeenat (new)

Zeenat (zeekwon) | 6376 comments well with 14 books and the series is going to have 20-25 books, I wouldn't be worried about that ;)


message 9: by Claire (new)

Claire (claire1) | 4451 comments Fair enough...but I have no desire to wait for book 25 to find out!


message 10: by Zeenat (new)

Zeenat (zeekwon) | 6376 comments LOL you won't :) It is spread across, you learn more and more as the books go on. By the time you get to 14, I think you have a good handle on everything around them.

I was annoyed by how he didn't explain a lot of things. like they talk about the wizard's death curse, and never explained what it is. You figure it out but it would have been better if there was a scene where it was explained.


message 11: by Zeenat (new)

Zeenat (zeekwon) | 6376 comments So in rereading storm front, I got to the part where he first met Bianca, and I got mad... I mean it's all her FREAKING fault for everything that happened!! AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!! Damn vampiress biatch. LOL


Mello ❣ Illium ✮Harry✮ ☀Myrnin☀ Torin Ichimaru | 2012 comments Tell us how you really feel, Zee.


message 13: by Zeenat (new)

Zeenat (zeekwon) | 6376 comments You know someone is a good author when you are invested in their characters sooooo much that you want to throw them across the room....he he he


message 14: by Claire (new)

Claire (claire1) | 4451 comments What is all Bianca's fault??? =) [I'm only on book 3]

Seriously, she hates Harry for (view spoiler)


message 15: by Zeenat (new)

Zeenat (zeekwon) | 6376 comments Everything Claire. I blame her for everything. If she didn't vow to kill/hurt Harry... then everything bad that happened wouldn't have happened. HER FAULT. (I'm biased against her).

and yeah, that's part of the reason why that scene makes me mad. It's not like he did anything wrong. She screwed up and blames him and blows everything to hell. Bitch.


message 16: by Claire (new)

Claire (claire1) | 4451 comments So clearly, Biance needs a stake through the heart ASAP


Mello ❣ Illium ✮Harry✮ ☀Myrnin☀ Torin Ichimaru | 2012 comments I thought the same thing about Bianca when she made that vow against Harry. She attacked him and he defended himself. Wtf else was he supposed to do?


message 18: by Sarah (new)

Sarah Wilson | 404 comments Zeenat wrote: "LOL you won't :) It is spread across, you learn more and more as the books go on. By the time you get to 14, I think you have a good handle on everything around them.

I was annoyed by how he didn'..."


Are you asking about death's curses in general in the Dresden books or one scene in particular?

About the previous Molly discussion (view spoiler)


message 19: by Zeenat (new)

Zeenat (zeekwon) | 6376 comments death curses in general. I don't think it was every blatantly explained. Just a bunch of conversations that kind of drew a picture when put together.

Molly (view spoiler)


message 20: by Zeenat (new)

Zeenat (zeekwon) | 6376 comments According to Jim Butcher's twitter:

Book 15 is called Skin Game and it's about (view spoiler) AND we'll see (view spoiler)


message 21: by Llaph (new)

Llaph  (llaph) | 3285 comments Oh man ... I hate ambiguous hints. :P
On one hand I want the next book right now ... on the other I would hate to have him stint on the awesome story by writing too fast. :(


message 22: by Kathy (new)

Kathy Davie (kathydavie) | 457 comments I agree. I want it now and I'd rather wait for a good 'un. Although, then again, that didn't work with the last Jean Auel....


message 23: by Zeenat (new)

Zeenat (zeekwon) | 6376 comments there is a 50/50 chance that both his new steampunk novel and the next dresden files will be out next year. I know he turned in the steampunk, but I don't know where in DF book he is at.


message 24: by Sarah (new)

Sarah Wilson | 404 comments Zeenat wrote: "death curses in general. I don't think it was every blatantly explained. Just a bunch of conversations that kind of drew a picture when put together.

Molly the actual age doesn't bother me, beca..."


What I got about the death curse is it's a strong curse when you're dying. Basically the strongest magic comes from the wizard's life force and the death curse utilizes all the power a wizard can access including the power to stay alive. The wizard casting it will die. Often targeted on the wizard's killer but can be targeted at anyone.


Valerie ~ Val Hall ~ | 1164 comments Harry often mentioned that to effectively deliver a death curse you have to a) have enough time to cast it and b) know which person to send it to.

I mean, if you were shot in the head....you die before you have time to realize that you are dead than you can't lay your death curse. I think I'm reading too many romance novel with military dudes in them....like a shot from a rifle may be cowardly but at least the wizard can't sling back a curse at you...so it's a safe way to get rid of them that way.


message 26: by Zeenat (new)

Zeenat (zeekwon) | 6376 comments I understand it now... It just wasn't explained in the beginning, and I pieced it together later on. LOL sorry I wasn't clear :)


message 27: by Zeenat (new)

Zeenat (zeekwon) | 6376 comments Valerie ~ Val Hall ~ wrote: "Harry often mentioned that to effectively deliver a death curse you have to a) have enough time to cast it and b) know which person to send it to.

I mean, if you were shot in the head....you die ..."


And sometimes it's not death.... Which is worse!


message 28: by Zeenat (new)

Zeenat (zeekwon) | 6376 comments I just reread Storm Front... and it was great, but not as great as the first time around. I dropped it down to 4 out of 5 stars LOL.

Except for the obvious... You don't really realize how much things change when you read books back to back without going back to the beginning. Like Harry and Murphy's relationship. They were so distrusting of each other in the beginning!


message 29: by Llaph (new)

Llaph  (llaph) | 3285 comments @ Kathy:
I have read the first four books many times since high school till Shelters of Stone came out ... since then I haven't even had the desire to read them again. I have never gotten past the first few pages of The Land of Painted Caves ... not interesting anymore. It felt more like a text book/ lecture.

@ Val:
lol, that sounds familiar.



Using headshots to take out enemies a lot would make a book boring though I am thinking. You would totally miss out on the suspense and the omgomgomg aspect of other ways.


message 30: by Kathy (new)

Kathy Davie (kathydavie) | 457 comments @Llaph I liked Shelters of Stone, then when The Land of Painted Caves came out and seemed to almost the same as SOS... I barely want to re-read the series at all anymore. And to think we waited so long for that )*^#*&!


message 31: by Sarah (new)

Sarah Wilson | 404 comments Zeenat wrote: "I understand it now... It just wasn't explained in the beginning, and I pieced it together later on. LOL sorry I wasn't clear :)"

Oh, ok.


message 32: by Zeenat (last edited Jan 10, 2013 09:25PM) (new)

Zeenat (zeekwon) | 6376 comments So in fool moon, Chauncy the Demon and Harry have this conversation:
“You . . . you knew my mother? You knew Margaret Gwendolyn Dresden?”
Chauncy regarded me without expression or emotion. “Many in the underworld were . . . familiar with her, Harry Blackstone Dresden, though under a different name. Her coming was awaited with great anticipation, but the Dark Prince lost her, in the end.”


So if you read most of the books (at least through the porn book--blood rites I think), then you know (view spoiler) Right? But what other name of hers?? Was it her (view spoiler)


message 33: by Sarah (new)

Sarah Wilson | 404 comments I don't remember this too well but my husband said the Dark Prince was the devil. The demon was saying her coming to hell was anticipated but she didn't end up there in the end. Don't know about the name. My husband has a vague memory that she was called different things, like a nickname.


message 34: by Zeenat (new)

Zeenat (zeekwon) | 6376 comments if it's the "devil" we haven't seen him yet.... so it could be true. I thought it had to do with all the (view spoiler) business.


message 35: by Sarah (new)

Sarah Wilson | 404 comments Ok, my husband figures it refers to the nickname (view spoiler) Is that a spoiler?


message 36: by Zeenat (new)

Zeenat (zeekwon) | 6376 comments It's an earlier book spoiler, though I don't where... I don't think Claire is there yet, Mello might be. I don't remember all the details of what happens where between book 4-11 LOL.

That makes sense.... except demons and fey deal with "real names". at least in that situation they were discussing. So it would have to be her given name. A part of me still thinks she is "part fey"... but maybe not.


message 37: by Kathy (new)

Kathy Davie (kathydavie) | 457 comments Well there's Harry's godmother. Leanansidhe. Maybe his mother's background can explain her.


message 38: by Zeenat (new)

Zeenat (zeekwon) | 6376 comments harry's subconscious cracks me up:

My double considered Murphy for a moment. “You should ask her out sometime, too.”
“I should what?” I said.
“You heard me. You’re repressing big time, man.”



message 39: by Claire (new)

Claire (claire1) | 4451 comments Keep repressing! Keep repressing!!


message 40: by Anna (new)

Anna | 1680 comments Quite excited, got Dresden Files #1 for Christmas, (but also gotGRR Martin box set. Choices choices.)


message 41: by Zeenat (new)

Zeenat (zeekwon) | 6376 comments Claire, how far are you now?

You got great friends and family to get you the right presents ;)


message 42: by Zeenat (last edited Jan 11, 2013 02:48PM) (new)

Zeenat (zeekwon) | 6376 comments ::smacking palm on forehead moment:: I just figured out that not only is Michael's last name "Carpenter", but that he also is one... And then it all connected.

LOL another funny moment, this time in Grave Peril:

“Holy shit,” I breathed. “Hellhounds.”
“Harry,” Michael said sternly. “You know I hate it when you swear.”
“You’re right. Sorry. Holy shit,” I breathed, “heckhounds.



Mello ❣ Illium ✮Harry✮ ☀Myrnin☀ Torin Ichimaru | 2012 comments I loved that part, Zeenat.


message 44: by Llaph (last edited Jan 11, 2013 03:00PM) (new)

Llaph  (llaph) | 3285 comments lol @ that zeenat ... seeing about copying DF to my reader again....



I got a memory of light and I think I am avoiding reading it ... almost 20 years of reading coming to an end.


message 45: by Sarah (new)

Sarah Wilson | 404 comments Claire wrote: "Keep repressing! Keep repressing!!"

She does get better.


message 46: by Sarah (new)

Sarah Wilson | 404 comments Zeenat wrote: "::smacking palm on forehead moment:: I just figured out that not only is Michael's last name "Carpenter", but that he also is one... And then it all connected.

LOL another funny moment, this time..."


That was a funny part. I also liked the part (I forget the book-maybe 4th?) with Duke Ortega and Harry on the Larry Fowler show and the comments Harry had about the duke's negotiating skills. It was hilarious.


message 47: by Kathy (new)

Kathy Davie (kathydavie) | 457 comments I do not remember this... Well, I've been wanting an excuse to re-read...


message 48: by Claire (new)

Claire (claire1) | 4451 comments @Zeenat I only finished book 2. Right now I'm afraid to dive into a book because I have to finish a roommate's christmas present

@Sarah Promise?


message 49: by Zeenat (new)

Zeenat (zeekwon) | 6376 comments ha ha They are addictive. Mello is reading them faster than me lol


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