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Please edit or correct or delete this quote. (part 3)
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Hello,This quote was mistakenly attributed to 'Anonymous' when I used share on my Kindle PW, but it was actually by Mark Twain (or Samuel Clemens - whichever is preferred).
https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/1031...
Could somebody please fix this so Twain/Clemens is properly credited?
Thank you!
Muddasir wrote: "My qoutations now started doubling. Both are still with previous mistakes."OK, then add it again, like Banjomike suggested. I think what he's suggesting is that, if you add the quote again, the incorrect version can be deleted and merged into the correct one. That way those that have liked the quotes already will still have their quotes, just a correct version. Hope that makes sense!
Susie wrote: "...if you add the quote again, the incorrect version can be deleted and merged into the correct one..."That will only work automatically if the new version has more likes than the old one. I think that can be fiddled but I also want to see if copy/paste from a correct version of the quote to the old version will work.
kk wrote: "Hello,This quote was mistakenly attributed to 'Anonymous' when I used share on my Kindle PW, but it was actually by Mark Twain (or Samuel Clemens - whichever is preferred).
https://www.goodreads..."
So it is! Thanks for all of your help!
These are variations of the same quote. Pls fix, as appropriate. FYI, I fixed/merged the Nietzsche quote/profile into 'Friedrich Nietzsche' b4 I realised that there were others. Hope that doesn't pose a problem. :(https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/sear...
https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/6869...can't edit (too many likes), needs a couple of apostrophes
"It's real, Six. You can't get mad at a real ending. Some of them are ugly. It's the fake happily ever afters that should piss you off."
thanks!
I have created another tread for this but posting it here to draw attention:please see the spate of spam quotes at:
https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/rece...
Riku wrote: "I have created another tread for this but posting it here to draw attention:please see the spate of spam quotes at:
https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/rece..."
Replied in other thread. Basically, ignore the spam.
Lobstergirl wrote: "https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/8510...Problems with spelling, punctuation."
Fixed
Could you please edit the source for the Sylvia Plath quote “Let me live, love and say it well in good sentences.” https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/2704...The quote is not from "The Bell Jar", but from "The Unabridged Journals of Sylvia Plath". This is a common error, but if you make a "Search inside the book" via amazon, you'll find out where the quote is really from.
Please help me educate the masses in regard of that one! :)
Thx!
anolta wrote: "Could you please edit the source for the Sylvia Plath quote “Let me live, love and say it well in good sentences.” https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/2704..."Done, and corrected punctuation. I prefer the full version but there you go...
"God, let me think clearly and brightly; let me live, love, and say it well in good sentences, let me someday see who I am and why I accept 4 years of food, shelter, and exams and papers without questioning more than I do."
Thank you! :)I also prefer the full version! :)
https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/list...
Hi I just added a quote by Chinua Achebe/Things Fall Apart (number four on my quote list) and noticed a few typos.
1. first sentence- "really had" should be flipped to "had really"
2. needs a comma inserted after "dry season"
3. last sentence - "to" should be "too".
Could someone please fix it? I apologize, I was under the impression we could edit our own links and so typed this too quickly. Thank you!
Hi I just added a quote by Chinua Achebe/Things Fall Apart (number four on my quote list) and noticed a few typos.
1. first sentence- "really had" should be flipped to "had really"
2. needs a comma inserted after "dry season"
3. last sentence - "to" should be "too".
Could someone please fix it? I apologize, I was under the impression we could edit our own links and so typed this too quickly. Thank you!
Typo.https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/1004...
“News flash, Fern Taylor!" Ambrose barked, slamming his hand against the dashboard, making Fern jump.
"Everything has changed! You are beautiful, I am hideous, you don't need me anymore, but I sure as hell need you!"
"You act like beauty is the only thing that makes us worthy of love," Fern snapped. "I didn't just l-love you because you were beautiful!" She'd said the L word, right out loud, though she'd tripped over it.”
Typo.
https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/1051...
“Speaking of names and all-time favorite romances, Bailey told me you write under a pen name. I've been really curious about that."
Fern groaned loudly. She shook her fist toward Bailey's house. "Curse your big mouth, Bailey Sheen" She looked at Ambrose with trepidation. "You are going to think I'm some stalker chick. That I'm totally obsessed. But you have to remember that I came up with this alter ego when I was sixteen and I was a bit obsessed. Okay, I'm still a bit obsessed."
"With what?" Ambrose was confused.
"With you," Fern's response was muffled as she buried her forehead in his chest, but Ambrose still heard her. He laughed and forced her chin up so he could see her face. "I still don't understand what that has to do with your pen name."
Fern sighed. "It's Amber Rose."
"Ambrose?"
"Amber Rose," Fern corrected.
"Amber Rose?" Ambrose sputtered.
"Yes," Fern said in a very, very small voice. And Ambrose laughed for a very, very long time.”
Could you please update the sources for the following Sylvia Plath quotes to "The Unabridged Journals of Sylvia Plath": https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/7815...
https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/7038...
https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/6267...
https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/1789...
https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/3585...
https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/9062...
https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/3032...
https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/2294...
https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/2996...
Can be all verified via amazon "search inside the book".
Thanks :)
anolta wrote: "Could you please update the sources for the following Sylvia Plath quotes to "The Unabridged Journals of Sylvia Plath""The second one is a QotD and is not editable.
https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/7038...
The others are done.
Thanks :)Is the QotD not editable in general or just today?
anolta wrote: "Thanks :)Is the QotD not editable in general or just today?"
Only staff can edit a QotD and they don't like to edit the text of the quote, the person (even when wrong), or the tags, or combine multiple versions. Occasionally a minor edit will get done as in this case. Rivka has fixed this one.
Please Help!The first quote, found here,https://www.goodreads.com/author/quot..., reads “Hold you dreams tight, my friend. Share them with no one . . ."
Can someone please change it to "Hold YOUR dreams tight . . ."
Thanks!
Please can someone delete the quote associated with my book Wrappedu up in Life with Omniscient Eyes. It is not in the book but rather my own quote. Thanks
Do you want it deleted? Because I have removed the book title, see if it's ok nowhttps://www.goodreads.com/quotes/9887...
The Goodreads Quote of the Day for Friday (2/21/14) is a misattribution to Anaïs Nin."And the day came when the risk to remain tight in a bud was more painful than the risk it took to blossom."
There is no evidence in her published work that she ever wrote this quotation.
There is good evidence this was written by Elizabeth Appell (fka Lassie Benton) in 1979.
See http://anaisninblog.skybluepress.com/... for the background on this quote and its likely author.
Moloch wrote: "Do you want it deleted? Because I have removed the book title, see if it's ok nowhttps://www.goodreads.com/quotes/9887..."
Thank you. Yes, I want to keep it up but can you just add "I" in front of "have"?
Does anyone know the source of the quotation attributed to Toni Morrison published as the Quote of the Day for 2/18/14 (her 83rd birthday)?"If there's a book that you want to read, but it hasn't been written yet, then you must write it."
I can find no reference that lists where or when Ms. Morrison either said this or wrote this. I have emailed the Toni Morrison Society asking them the same question but have received no response. Thanks.
I remember her saying this in an interview years ago.
Sandra wrote: "I remember her saying this in an interview years ago."Thanks, Sandra.
Any other details of any sort? Location, to whom she was giving the interview, etc.?
I forgot but the interview was in PBS
Typo.https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/1054...
“Code Red. Code Red. Ryan on top of Lexie. Must keep teasing her or tickle her or say something. But don't just stare at her. Don't look into her deep brown eyes...her golden browns. Don't pay attention to her smile creating that extra dimple only I know she has. Don't drool over how her shirt comes up a bit in the front, letting me see her bellybutton. Don't look at her great rack. Don't breathe in her scent. Her candy apple and cinnamon scent.
But that's all I do.”
Sandra wrote: "Moloch wrote: "Do you want it deleted? Because I have removed the book title, see if it's ok nowhttps://www.goodreads.com/quotes/9887..."
Th..."
Ok, fixed!
Sandra wrote: "I forgot but the interview was in PBS"OK, Sandra, thanks again. At least it gives me a place to start to try to pin down the details.
Goodreads Quote of the Day for Sunday ( (2/23/14: "They say a person needs just three things to be truly happy in this world: someone to love, something to do, and something to hope for." - Tom BodettUm, yeah, “they” do say that. Or said that. Or wrote that, actually, in 1848.
It was George Washington Burnap, an American clergyman, who wrote “The grand essentials to happiness in this life are something to do, something to love, and something to hope for.” See his The Sphere and Duties of Woman : A Course of Lectures (1848), Lecture IV, page 99. By the way, this quotation has been widely misattributed (including on Goodreads) to Joseph Addison.
Being the skilled writer Mr. Bodett is, I would have thought he would have been willing and able to give Mr. Burnap the proper credit for this quotation. It annoys me greatly when others misappropriate the words of another. I suspect Mr. Bodett would not appreciate other writers quoting words of his without proper attribution.
Denis wrote: "Goodreads Quote of the Day for Sunday ( (2/23/14: "They say a person needs just three things to be truly happy in this world: someone to love, something to do, and something to hope for." - Tom B..."You will have to mention this in the Merges and Corrections for Quotes of the Day (corrections for goodreads' staff member) thread, as only GR staff can modify Quotes of the Day.
But do note - there are instances where a quote has been paraphrased later on by someone else, and in which case the paraphrasing gets attributed to the new author, not the old one, which may be the case in this instance.
Denis wrote: "Goodreads Quote of the Day for Sunday ( (2/23/14: "They say a person needs just three things to be truly happy in this world: someone to love, something to do, and something to hope for." - Tom B..."I've added it
https://www.goodreads.com/topic/show/...
Susie wrote: "But do note - there are instances where a quote has been paraphrased later on by someone else, and in which case the paraphrasing gets attributed to the new author, not the old one, which may be the case in this instance. "
If the best quote that could be found for his birthday was a paraphrease of one that is 160 years old then I would not have bothered to make him/it the QotD.
Susie wrote: "Denis wrote: "Goodreads Quote of the Day for Sunday ( (2/23/14: "They say a person needs just three things to be truly happy in this world: someone to love, something to do, and something to hope..."Thanks for the link, Susie. I am new to this site, so I am not as familiar with the different threads as I would like to be. I expect this link you provided will be helpful.
Misattributions are rife, particularly on the Internet. In defense of Mr. Bodett, he did not write the quotation as if it were his ("They say ...") but I just thought it was lazy of him to either not research its provenance (in which case he likely would have incorrectly settled on Joseph Addison or, less likely, Alexander Chalmers, BOTH of which have been named as the authors of the quote in the Goodreads Quote of the Day (approximately 12/26/07 and 12/30/11, respectively, the estimated dates based on the first "likes" of the quotation when published)), or did research it and chose to not give proper credit.
If you are giving an off-the-cuff speech, paraphrasing is fine and usually necessary, as most of us do not have eidetic memories. However, if one is writing, or giving a prepared speech, failure to give proper attribution of quotations is just plain sloppy, if not out-and-out unethical.
Banjomike wrote: "Denis wrote: "Goodreads Quote of the Day for Sunday ( (2/23/14: "They say a person needs just three things to be truly happy in this world: someone to love, something to do, and something to hope..."Thanks, Banjomike!
Denis wrote: "Thanks for the link, Susie. I am new to this site, so I am not as familiar with the different threads as I would like to be. I expect this link you provided will be helpful.Misattributions are rife, particularly on the Internet. In defense of Mr. Bodett, he did not write the quotation as if it were his ("They say ...") but I just thought it was lazy of him to either not research its provenance (in which case he likely would have incorrectly settled on Joseph Addison or, less likely, Alexander Chalmers, BOTH of which have been named as the authors of the quote in the Goodreads Quote of the Day (approximately 12/26/07 and 12/30/11, respectively, the estimated dates based on the first "likes" of the quotation when published)), or did research it and chose to not give proper credit.
If you are giving an off-the-cuff speech, paraphrasing is fine and usually necessary, as most of us do not have eidetic memories. However, if one is writing, or giving a prepared speech, failure to give proper attribution of quotations is just plain sloppy, if not out-and-out unethical."
The awkward thing about GR is that only one author can be attributed to a quote. I remember a long discussion about where Neil Gaiman paraphrased G.K. Chesterton in the beginning of Coraline. He himself couldn't actually remember the full quote at the time then actually forgot to look it up, due to time constraints (although he does state it originates with G.K. Chesterton, which makes it better than a lot that paraphrase). It means that the quote is now listed here as attributed to Neil Gaiman, but has a tag stating that it's paraphrasing G.K. Chesterton:
https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/1776...
Banjomike wrote: "If the best quote that could be found for his birthday was a paraphrease of one that is 160 years old then I would not have bothered to make him/it the QotD."
How do they choose the QotD, BTW?
Susie wrote: "Denis wrote: "Thanks for the link, Susie. I am new to this site, so I am not as familiar with the different threads as I would like to be. I expect this link you provided will be helpful.Misattri..."
Thanks again, Susie. I read that whole thread to which you alluded and, given the constraints of the system, I feel it was handled in the best way possible. However, those two quotations, while quite similar, were not nearly identical. Bodett's quotation was virtually identical to Burnap's, though, so the two situations are only tangentially related, in my opinion.
I, too, am curious how the Quote of the Day is chosen. I also am curious how much, or what kind of, due diligence is done on the quotation before it is chosen and emailed/published. As I wrote earlier, Burnap's quotation has been a Goodreads Quote of the Day on at least 2 separate occasions, and misattributed to both Joseph Addison and to Alexander Chalmers. Doesn't anyone at Goodreads in charge of the Quote of the Day check on these things?
Susie wrote: "How do they choose the QotD, BTW? "No idea. The quotes that are chosen are nearly always good ones. It tends to be the attribution that is at fault if anything is. I would have thought that a bell would have run somewhere given that there are currently FOUR versions of the quote by THREE different people (none of whom seem to be the originator of the saying). That tells me that something needs looking at before making one of them the QotD.
https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/4797...
https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/2628...
https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/4329...
https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/1329...
EDIT:
make that six versions by four people
https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/9207...
https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/3457...
Banjomike wrote: "Susie wrote: "How do they choose the QotD, BTW? "No idea. The quotes that are chosen are nearly always good ones. It tends to be the attribution that is at fault if anything is. I would have t..."
Whoever submits, or decides on, quotations for the Quote of the Day needs to exercise due diligence. I think citing the source (ORIGINAL source, not some lame Internet link to someone's blog or some such thing) should be required, in addition to the quotation and the author.
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Could someone please delete these two quotes:
https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/8210...
and
https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/8210...
Thank you.