The Hobbit, or There and Back Again
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Riddles
Tavo wrote: "Nothing?"Yes! =D
Alexandria wrote: "Ruth wrote: "He said, "I wasn't talking to you.""no, lol, not that part lol. I guess I'll have to go see it again lol. I meant after he agreed, then told Bilbo the terms if he lost."
He said "And if he loses? What then? Well, if he loses, precious, then we eats it! If Baggins loses, we eats it whole!"
To which Bilbo replies after a shocked silence "Fair enough".
It was pretty funny. =D
For me, this is the ultimate riddle. I'm not sure the 2% rule still holds given that people in general are educated to a much higher level that they were when Einstein created this riddle. It's quite famous and, if approached with pure logic isn't too hard.1. In a street there are five houses, painted five different colours.
2. In each house lives a person of different nationality
3. These five homeowners each drink a different kind of beverage, smoke different brand of cigar and keep a different pet.
THE QUESTION: WHO OWNS THE FISH?
HINTS
1. The Brit lives in a red house.
2. The Swede keeps dogs as pets.
3. The Dane drinks tea.
4. The Green house is next to, and on the left of the White house.
5. The owner of the Green house drinks coffee.
6. The person who smokes Pall Mall rears birds.
7. The owner of the Yellow house smokes Dunhill.
8. The man living in the centre house drinks milk.
9. The Norwegian lives in the first house.
10. The man who smokes Blends lives next to the one who keeps cats.
11. The man who keeps horses lives next to the man who smokes Dunhill.
12. The man who smokes Blue Master drinks beer.
13. The German smokes Prince.
14. The Norwegian lives next to the blue house.
15. The man who smokes Blends has a neighbour who drinks water.
ALBERT EINSTEIN WROTE THIS RIDDLE EARLY DURING THE 19th CENTURY. HE SAID THAT 98% OF THE WORLD POPULATION WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO SOLVE IT.
Nichola wrote: "For me, this is the ultimate riddle. I'm not sure the 2% rule still holds given that people in general are educated to a much higher level that they were when Einstein created this riddle. It's q..."
i've done this riddle before, its the german
i've done this riddle before, its the german
This is my favorite Hobbit riddleAlive without breath
As cold as death
Never thirsty, ever drinking
All in mail, never clinking
Someone try to answer this one: two men are in a cabin at the bottom, of a mountain, they are both dead, how did they die.Ask only yes or no questions
"What ... have I got in my pocket?"Love that. Actually, I loved that whole scene. Especially in the movie *-*
Ya the movie was terrific, the scene even more so, smegal looked sooo real
"If Baggins loses we eats it whole"....."Fair enough"
HahA, LOVED that part
Ryeleigh wrote: "Someone try to answer this one: two men are in a cabin at the bottom, of a mountain, they are both dead, how did they die.Ask only yes or no questions"
Ryeleigh wrote: "HahA, LOVED that part"Me too
Ryeleigh wrote: "Ryeleigh wrote: "Someone try to answer this one: two men are in a cabin at the bottom, of a mountain, they are both dead, how did they die.
Ask only yes or no questions""
Were they climbing, fell off the mountain and through the roof?
Ask only yes or no questions""
Were they climbing, fell off the mountain and through the roof?
Ryeleigh wrote: "Someone try to answer this one: two men are in a cabin at the bottom, of a mountain, they are both dead, how did they die.Ask only yes or no questions"
Was there an avalanche?
Tavo wrote: "#3 I have holes in my top and bottom, my left and right, and in the middle. But I still hold water. What am I?"A sponge
Mercer wrote: "This thing all things devours:Birds, beasts, trees, flowers;
Gnaws iron, bites steel;
Grinds hard stones to meal;
Slays king, ruins town,
And beats high mountain down.
Answer: Time!
I always th..."
Definately my favorite.
Andy wrote: "Ryeleigh wrote: "Ryeleigh wrote: "Someone try to answer this one: two men are in a cabin at the bottom, of a mountain, they are both dead, how did they die.Ask only yes or no questions""
Were th..."
No
CJ wrote: "Ryeleigh wrote: "Someone try to answer this one: two men are in a cabin at the bottom, of a mountain, they are both dead, how did they die.Ask only yes or no questions"
Was there an avalanche?"
No :) keep guessing
Ryeleigh wrote: "Ryeleigh wrote: "Someone try to answer this one: two men are in a cabin at the bottom, of a mountain, they are both dead, how did they die.Ask only yes or no questions""
Are they really dead ???
Hannah wrote: "I love riddles! I went on a riddle rampage a few years ago, and this one has remained my favorite.
What do men love more than life,
fear more than death or mortal strife?
What the poor have, the ..."
It is really interesting that the same "themes" are used, but in a different format, different "poesy". They all try to "mislead" you in one way or another. I think that this was what Tolkien did well in the Hobbit - asking well known riddles in a different way. I won't answer, apart from to say that the solution has already appeared on this page. Any more "rampaging riddles"?
What do men love more than life,
fear more than death or mortal strife?
What the poor have, the ..."
It is really interesting that the same "themes" are used, but in a different format, different "poesy". They all try to "mislead" you in one way or another. I think that this was what Tolkien did well in the Hobbit - asking well known riddles in a different way. I won't answer, apart from to say that the solution has already appeared on this page. Any more "rampaging riddles"?
Andy wrote: "Ryeleigh wrote: "Ryeleigh wrote: "Someone try to answer this one: two men are in a cabin at the bottom, of a mountain, they are both dead, how did they die.
Ask only yes or no questions""
Were th..."
Is the fact that they are at the bottom of the mountain important?
(Sorry - that is really ungrammatical! I am ashamed!!!!)
Ask only yes or no questions""
Were th..."
Is the fact that they are at the bottom of the mountain important?
(Sorry - that is really ungrammatical! I am ashamed!!!!)
Andy wrote: "Andy wrote: "Ryeleigh wrote: "Ryeleigh wrote: "Someone try to answer this one: two men are in a cabin at the bottom, of a mountain, they are both dead, how did they die.
Ask only yes or no questi..."
Just an afterthought - are we talking about a log cabin, or perhaps an aircraft cabin...?
Ask only yes or no questi..."
Just an afterthought - are we talking about a log cabin, or perhaps an aircraft cabin...?
Ryeleigh wrote: "Andy wrote: "Ryeleigh wrote: "Ryeleigh wrote: "Someone try to answer this one: two men are in a cabin at the bottom, of a mountain, they are both dead, how did they die.Ask only yes or no questi..."
I don't think that's a riddle.
Todd wrote: "Ryeleigh wrote: "Andy wrote: "Ryeleigh wrote: "Ryeleigh wrote: "Someone try to answer this one: two men are in a cabin at the bottom, of a mountain, they are both dead, how did they die.Ask only..."
Me neither
Todd wrote: "Ryeleigh wrote: "Andy wrote: "Ryeleigh wrote: "Ryeleigh wrote: "Someone try to answer this one: two men are in a cabin at the bottom, of a mountain, they are both dead, how did they die.Ask only..."
There are different types of riddles. There are the story ones, like this one, where you have to figure out how they died or whatever, and then there are the object types ... like the Tolkien ones. The definition of a riddle is simply this: a puzzling question, problem, or matter. And/or: a question or statement so framed as to exercise one's ingenuity in answering it or discovering its meaning; conundrum.
Therefore, both types are riddles.
"and if the hobbit loses, we eats him whole!"Bilbo: (gulp) Fair enough!
Andy wrote: "Andy wrote: "Ryeleigh wrote: "Ryeleigh wrote: "Someone try to answer this one: two men are in a cabin at the bottom, of a mountain, they are both dead, how did they die.Ask only yes or no questi..."
Its kinda important
Todd wrote: "Ryeleigh wrote: "Andy wrote: "Ryeleigh wrote: "Ryeleigh wrote: "Someone try to answer this one: two men are in a cabin at the bottom, of a mountain, they are both dead, how did they die.Ask only..."
Yes its a riddle
Lesley wrote: ""and if the hobbit loses, we eats him whole!"Bilbo: (gulp) Fair enough!"
Bilbo Baggins: Why don't we have a game of riddles?
Gollum: And if he looses? What then? Well, if he looses, precious, then we eats it! If Baggins looses, we eats it whole!
Bilbo Baggins: [shocked silence] Fair enough.
If anyone wants to see the original riddles that inspired Tolkein, look at the Anglo-Saxons - I think Penguin did a collected version of all the riddles that have survived in manuscripts from that period.
Tavo wrote: "#1 What gets wetter and wetter the more it dries?" A towel!
Tavo wrote: "#2 What goes up and down the stairs without moving?" A Carpet
Tavo wrote: "#6 what always runs but never walks, often murmurs, never talks, has a bed but never sleeps, has a mouth but never eats?" A Stream
Tavo wrote: "#3 I have holes in my top and bottom, my left and right, and in the middle. But I still hold water. What am I?" A Sponge
Tavo wrote: "#4 Give me food, and I will live; give me water, and I will die. What am I?" Fire
Tavo wrote: "#7 What has a head, a tail, is brown, and has no legs?" Hair
Tavo wrote: "#5 I am the beginning of the end, and the end of time and space. I am essential to creation, and I surround every place. What am I?" Gravity?
Hannah wrote: "I love riddles! I went on a riddle rampage a few years ago, and this one has remained my favorite. What do men love more than life,
fear more than death or mortal strife?
What the poor have, the ..." Hope
Hannah wrote: "I love riddles! I went on a riddle rampage a few years ago, and this one has remained my favorite.
What do men love more than life,
fear more than death or mortal strife?
What the poor have, the ..."
Ryeleigh wrote: "Andy wrote: "Ryeleigh wrote: "Ryeleigh wrote: "Someone try to answer this one: two men are in a cabin at the bottom, of a mountain, they are both dead, how did they die.Ask only yes or no questi..."
Ooh! Did they die in a plane crash (the "cabin" being an "airplane cabin!")?
Jenny wrote: What do men love more than life,
fear more than death or mortal strife?
What the ... hope"
No, sorry!
Hannah wrote: "Jenny wrote:
What do men love more than life,
fear more than death or mortal strife?
What the ... hope"
No, sorry!"
I'm having difficulty following this as the replies get a bit separated in the discussion. To recapitulate )
Not a fall from a climbing accident, not an avalanche, it is sort of important that the cabin is at the bottom of a mountain, and it was not an aircraft cabin - did I miss any?
Can I ask if the weather conditions prevented travel?
What do men love more than life,
fear more than death or mortal strife?
What the ... hope"
No, sorry!"
I'm having difficulty following this as the replies get a bit separated in the discussion. To recapitulate )
Not a fall from a climbing accident, not an avalanche, it is sort of important that the cabin is at the bottom of a mountain, and it was not an aircraft cabin - did I miss any?
Can I ask if the weather conditions prevented travel?
CJ wrote: "Ryeleigh wrote: "Andy wrote: "Ryeleigh wrote: "Ryeleigh wrote: "Someone try to answer this one: two men are in a cabin at the bottom, of a mountain, they are both dead, how did they die.Ask only..."
YEEEEESSSSS
@Ryeleigh: Who exactly are you quoting? It's impossible to tell.
Who am I quoting?
I love all of them. They baffle the mind and yet Bilbo answers them so easily.
I wouldn't say easily xD But yeah :) Go Bilbo!! :D
Jenny wrote: "Tavo wrote: "#5 I am the beginning of the end, and the end of time and space. I am essential to creation, and I surround every place. What am I?" Gravity?"
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It has roots no one can see
It's taller than the trees
Up,up it goes
Yet never grows
I would ask people if they knew the answer ( most didn't )
Then everybody read the Hobbit and then everybody knew the answers. Plus I thought that it was a good riddle.