The Mark of Athena
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who of the 7 is the strongest?
I am basing my list off of how helpful these characters are, because there's so much more to being a hero than being physically strong.1. Percy, because he literally has done nothing to be placed lower on this list.
2. Annabeth, for getting everyone out of bad situations, like, all of the time.
3. Leo, for fixing everything all of the time.
4. Frank, but only HoH Frank.
5. I would rate Hazel and Piper equally, because of how well they both developed in Hoh, but I'll put Hazel above Piper because she had a bigger role in HoH (not a spoiler, by the way)
6. Piper.
7. Jason. Sure, he may be strong, but when did he ever actually use his strength to help anyone during battle? He doesn't seem to be a very quick thinker, he's a bit of a stick in the mud, and he's not very smart. There. I said it.
Creative wrote: "I am basing my list off of how helpful these characters are, because there's so much more to being a hero than being physically strong.1. Percy, because he literally has done nothing to be placed..."
@ shahdia people agree with my assessment!
Shahdia wrote: "Look, we're just going round in circles, so let's agree to disagree. I think Jason is better, you think Percy is better."fine. but percy IS better than jason. in every front.
Shahdia wrote: "Look, we're just going round in circles, so let's agree to disagree. I think Jason is better, you think Percy is better."wow you are a really stubborn person you know that? guess so am I. :P
Ok Shandia, I get your point, but I agree with Vansh here. We're not talking about Zeus vs. Posieden, Its Percy vs. Jason. Frankly, I think Percy is more powerful than Jason, but he also does have more experience. MAYBE if they were the same age, Jason would be more powerful, but really it all depends on how they use their powers.
Sorry. Shahdia, not Shandia
However, you have both brought up some good points, and have both also made incorrect statements, but good job supporting what you believe.
Sydney wrote: "Ok Shandia, I get your point, but I agree with Vansh here. We're not talking about Zeus vs. Posieden, Its Percy vs. Jason. Frankly, I think Percy is more powerful than Jason, but he also does have ..."But I am right, right?
In the fact that Percy is stronger, yes. Although I don't agree that he is flawless.
Sydney wrote: "In the fact that Percy is stronger, yes. Although I don't agree that he is flawless."okay fine maybe flawless was bit of n overstatement but you get my point.
When it comes to power, Percy is by far the strongest. When it comes to experience, I would go with Percy, Jason, or Annabeth on that one. Sure Jason has trained since he was three or something, but experience isn't training, the real stuff happens in the real world. Training prepares you. If you need strategy, than it's Annabeth. Crazy ideas, that's Percy. They all have their strengths and weaknesses, that's why there are more than one of them. My favorite is definitely Percy, but I don't think it's fair to judge them all on one category. They are all good at something. Some more than others. If I had to choose, I'd say Percy
yes, I definitely agree with that
That's true, but I still like Percy better
Shahdia wrote: "It doesn't matter. You have a point, but I believe that in different circumstances, Percy and Jason could be just as powerful, or one could be more powerful than the other (eg. if Jason wasn't Roma..."Child of prophecy? :D
Percy and Annabeth for me are the strongest as well as the bravest among the demigods. Next could either be Leo or Jason.
Shahdia wrote: "Vansh wrote: "Shahdia wrote: "It doesn't matter. You have a point, but I believe that in different circumstances, Percy and Jason could be just as powerful, or one could be more powerful than the o..."Now you are getting sidetracked, how powerful a character is, has nothing to do with the prophecy. There was the prophecy about Annabeth in "mark of Athena" but still, she is not the most powerful character in the series. she is powerful, but not the most powerful character.
And by the way "prophecy-person", that's hilarious :P
Shahdia wrote: "The Great Prophecy. The prophecy that led to Percy defeating Kronos. You think the events of the books that made Percy who he is would have happened if he hadn't been the one of the prophecy? He wo..."Oh my god, you just took a fictional world and imagined a hypothetical situation in it which would be quite amazing, if it were not for the fact that it's completely ridiculous, because guess what, he is son of posiedon, he did defeat kronos and returned the lightning bolt and all the other amazing stuff, so for the love of god can you not complicate the situation, cause it's plenty complicated already.
And as far as the prophecy is concerned, it WAS about percy, that's the whole damn point. he is protagonist in the story. the main character, so obviously the prophecy would not refer to a satyr to save olympus.
The point was, Percy is more powerful than Jason. Let's stick to it.
what circumstances? I think they both had the same "circumstances", they were being hunted by a large variety of deamon and monster. I think they both had the same problems more or less, even though jason's been training his whole life, percy proved to be better at fighting.
Jason has had way more training than Percy, but Percy is still more powerful. True, if the circumstances were different, the outcome would be different, but that's not what we have to think about Rick Riordan chose to create a character named Percy Jackson instead of Jason Grace for the first series. Jason fought Krios and did many quests, and so did Percy. You can still compare the two, and if you analyse each monster they face, ultimately Percy would be more powerful. Personally, I like Percy better than Jason, because Jason is way too serious. This is my opinion.
1. Percy2. Jason
3. Frank
4. Leo
5. Annabeth
6. Pipper
7. Hazel
for me annabeth and leo are equally strong . Annabeth only have her wisdom for power . but leo vcan summon fire so he can put a whole world on fire . and he really helped the group : he built the argo 2 and he helped when the ship is damaged also he repaired festus ... so i think he is equal with annabeth
Shahdia wrote: "I don't understand why so many people have put Leo above Annabeth. Like, sure, he can summon fire, but how much has he actually helped the Seven?"@shahdia okay I agree with u on this, annabeth ia definitely more powerful and experienced than leo. She should be ranked above than leo and even frank.
i think if a war is to come leo can put the enemy on fire but what can annabeth do? surely she is clever but i think on this point leo is better
Clara wrote: "i think if a war is to come leo can put the enemy on fire but what can annabeth do? surely she is clever but i think on this point leo is better"@clara Annabeth defeated archne, that giant ass spider all on her own just with her wits and intelligence and survived tarturus, not only did she supported percy but also held her own in the battles. Leo might be a good engineer, but he is definitely not better than annabeth in battle strategy and when it comew to actual fights.
Vansh wrote: "what circumstances? I think they both had the same "circumstances", they were being hunted by a large variety of deamon and monster. I think they both had the same problems more or less, even thou..."i'm with you but how exactly has percy proved to be the better fighter? Or are you just relying on feats why you say that?
I hate how Annabeth is low on everyone's list. She has contributed greatly. Sure, she might not be the most powerful, but she and Percy are what has kept the crew from falling apart. If Percy's the most powerful, and Annabeth has saved his life on multiple accounts, than what does that make her? Without Annabeth, the crew would be done for. This goes for every single one of them. Each book has a highlight of someone saving the other members. Leo saved Piper and Jason in The Lost Hero, and in the House of Hades, Frank saved Hazel and Nico. They're all important and powerful, that's what makes them a team
surely they are all in a way equal . everyone of the 7 has his weakness so they complete each other . Percy and Annabeth did better together. percy coudn't survive without Annabeth and also annabeth couldn't survive without percy. and everyone of the 7 is important. leo , frank, jason, percy, hazel, annabeth, pipper , all of them did great and each of them did his own task
Overall, I think Percy is the strongest.
Annabeth is AWESOME!!! Also, Percy doesn't always rely on his powers. Sometimes those can't save him. He has excellent swordsmanship. I think Percy would win in a fight. Percy is my favorite character(obviously) and Annabeth is my second favorite.
Bonnick wrote: "Vansh wrote: "what circumstances? I think they both had the same "circumstances", they were being hunted by a large variety of deamon and monster. I think they both had the same problems more or l..."@Bonnick :How percy proved to be a better fighter?, are you kidding me!? did you missed the part where he fought a small army of monsters on the bridge, all by himself in the battle against kronos, or that he brawled with that several titans, including atlas when he held the sky! he produced a hurricane and actually rode it while he fighting that titan in the new york battle, tell me that's not cool!
from the very beginning, when he was only 12, and not even in the camp, he killed a freaking minotaur(remember the damn horn he used to carry around), or medusa or 1000 more monsters he slayed after that. Percy is definitely the best fighter.
I think that answers your query. :)
I tried counting the number of monsters he fought, and I lost count in the first 50 pages
Percy and Annabeth are tied.
Annabeth is the smartest but Percy is the best fighter. It depends in the circumstances which one of them would win.
Vansh wrote: "Bonnick wrote: "Vansh wrote: "what circumstances? I think they both had the same "circumstances", they were being hunted by a large variety of deamon and monster. I think they both had the same pr..."of course percy is cool didn't say he was but as i said i asked you what you based your statements on? Now i see your answer is feats nothing wrong with that percy has several books dedicated to him so he has better feats. As the better fighter i can't say so unless he and jason fight. Hell jason took on the strongest giant bare handed and still managed to wound him (this was with a curse that made him invulnerable or a cursed sword that will return to your pocket).
heck i think Talia could and will beat anyone of the seven and she lacks the feats percy has.
Here is the difference between Percy and JasonPercy - He didn't have any bad history in the mortal world, however he always has shit going down when he is doing quests.
Jason - Has a terrible history with an abusive mother and then with him being abandoned, but things go smoothly for him in the demigod world.
They are complete opposites, and yet they seem to be tied in Rick Riordan's view
Bonnick wrote: "Vansh wrote: "Bonnick wrote: "Vansh wrote: "what circumstances? I think they both had the same "circumstances", they were being hunted by a large variety of deamon and monster. I think they both h..."whatever man.
Annabeth is a really important character. I like Leo, but nowhere near as much as I like Percy and Annabeth.
Shahdia wrote: "1. Jason: Because Zeus is more powerful than Poseidon, and using Thunder on a Squirtie is super effective.2. Percy: He's almost too strong....
3. Annabeth: Even though she doesn't have any powers...."
How can somebody be too strong? And Zeus isn't more powerful, he's just the king of the gods. When Poseidon was fighting his own war in the ocean, teh gods oculdn't destory Typhon by themselves. But, when poseidon came to their aid, he killed Typhon. Percy can defeat Jason with his powers and if he had no water around him, he could summon water without any water. Their fighting abilities with a sword a pretty equal, but Percy is trained to be unpredictable, where as Jason was learned to work with the legion. And even though Jason went to Camp Half-Blood, he wasn't training, just working on teh Argo II. Percy for the win!
Jason can work in a legion with other people, but if he's alone, he is doomed.Percy can take on a lot of monsters by himself, but he lacks the wisdom to make battle strategies.
Ananth wrote: "Jason can work in a legion with other people, but if he's alone, he is doomed.Percy can take on a lot of monsters by himself, but he lacks the wisdom to make battle strategies."
how is he doomed whn he fought a titan by himself. Every time my boy percy fought a titan he had people with him.
Percy is the strongest by far his power IS limitless,He controls water, water IS in everything!
There is water vapour in the air (clouds are condensed water vapour) its in people, the ground - EVERYTHING
Each time Percy uses his power it grows and he becomes more aware of what he can do and can use it for longer and longer each time
He subconsciously controls his own body, he doesn't lose strength until after a fight as he controls and regulates his adrenaline flow, plus just by touching water he is fully regenerated
******* HOUSE of HADES SPOILER ALERT *********
In House of hades he shows this against Akhlys (God of Misery and POISON) she can control poison BUT a mere trace of water allows Percy to control the Poison Mist overpowering the GODS control of it!!!!!!!!!!
At the end of the book he also overcomes his Fatal Flaw - Percy will sacrifice everything including his life to save those he counts as friends -
He allows Bob, Small Bob and Damsen (who he now counts as friends) to sacrifice themselves for him. Now he's done it once he'll be able to do it again but easier!
If Percy fully realises his power he has the potential to destroy the world just like Leo and water trumps fire as water is a chemical that has already been burn't and can't burn any more!
The prophecy says - "The world must fall to storm or fire" i.e Percy or Leo
(Not Jason as it doesn't say lightning storm i personally think Percy can easily out power jason when controlling a storm)
The demigods think "The world" could mean either Gia OR The world. I think it Means BOTH which ever out of the two defeats Gia could gain full mastery of their power and get a lust for it!!
I think we could be seeing a darker Percy in the future
1 Percy - Limitless, could drain the water out of a living being! Blood plasma is mainly water Imagine him pulling the blood out of someone scary huhh? (Humans are 90% water if there's a trace in monsters/giant/titans/gods he has the potential to kill them!!!!) can control rain to create hurricanes, water traces in the ground (even the desert has water underground! out powers a god for control of her own element: poison, because of a TRACE of water!
2 Leo - too be seen (its said that the Hephaestus who controls fire can destroy the world)
3 Jason - Lightning and Flight Percy Blocks lightning with water!
4 Frank - Can command the dead legions and change into a dragon!!!!
5 Hazel - can pull all precious gems, metals and stones to her Diamond cannon!!
6 Annabeth - the groups brains/leader and Percys anchor
7 Piper - Jasons/the groups Anchor
Its Percy Jackson, he created a volcanoe which affected 2 million people, i doubt even Jason has a better feat than that, unless if his power increases in the next book.
Percy rules and Jason can suck at it!THE END!!!!!!!
Vansh wrote: dude what the hell!Just giving an opinion!
1. Percy2. Jason
3. Leo
4. Hazel
5. Frank
6. Piper
7. Annabeth
These are my most POWERFUL order, meaning how good they are with their abilities and what they are. My most useful list would probably be something like:
1. Percy
2. Leo
3. Annabeth
4. Hazel
5. Frank
6. Jason
7. Piper
Although there's Hazel, who is much stronger than Leo or Piper.Reasons:
She can actually fight with a metallic weapon, unlike Leo
She is always very calm and she is a Big Three child, unlike Piper
for me hazel is the #6 just before pipper and annabeth , percy , and leo are the strongest 3 . for me leo is much stronger than hazel or pipper or eve jason and frank
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oh for the love of god!!
Did you not read the same books or something, let me remind you..
1.zeus's lightening bolt debacle.
2.he actually brawled with ares, an honest to god, well god.
3.oh and let's not forget that HE HELD THE FREAKING SKY. and fought that titan over there too.
and medusa, he cut her head off
4. he actually led an army of super natural creatures in a battle against the titan king himself!
5. the titans he killed during the battle with hurricane and stuff.
6.and he fought and almost killed hades after he bathed in styx, although i know hades couldn;t be killed but still he held his sword on hades throat which is totally cool!!
7.and in the labrynth he fought that god, which was super dificult to kill. and had a very complicated name...
and countless more battles which i am currently forgetting. oh and in the very beginning when he was 12 and on his way to the camp for the forst time he killed the horned guy, i forget his name but whatever the point is, he definitely have more experience than jason in battles . and by my count he has killed way more titans and demons than jason.