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Katerina wrote: "I read "Consequences" and " Truth" in a row... never read such a mindfuck in my whole life.It took me some time to recover...I am still trying to figure out, why I am so attracted to Tony.
Never ..."
Katerina,
I am asking myself the same question....Why oh why am I cheering for Tony when he has done a lot of unforgiveable things to Claire? I know they say love is blind---but how blind is it? Really? I loved both books, though. I really did.
You can't be serious, Hasbe... Truth is darker than Consequences? How can that even be possible. I just don't know if I can handle reading something even darker and more emotional than Consequences....
Kim, yes it took me a while to recover from reading the Truth, after a lot of hair pulling. lol Definitely one of the most mindfuck book I read so far.
Charlotte wrote: "Katerina wrote: "I read "Consequences" and " Truth" in a row... never read such a mindfuck in my whole life.It took me some time to recover...I am still trying to figure out, why I am so attracted..."
Charlotte,
I can´t speak for all women in general, but is a handsome, wealthy man enough to throw every moral standard and every caution to the wind?
Disturbing, for me it is...
Maybe I say so, because there is never a possibility in life, I will experience the same things Claire did ( I do not want to be raped!!! God forbid!!! ).
Katerina wrote: "I can´t speak for all women in general, but is a handsome, wealthy man enough to throw every moral standard and every caution to the wind? Disturbingly, for me it is..."If this was real life, you would forgive Anthony for everything he did? Knowing that he is a kidnapper, rapist, abuser, and murderer, you would be willing to enter a relationship with him?
What if her were just handsome and middle class, not insanely rich? Or what if he were ugly and had billions of dollars, would you still forgive him? And what if he was just average all around... middle class and average looking?
If you changed the story from Consequences up and instead of the handsome billionaire, Anthony is a local businessman and his home is an average 3 bedroom ranch on just a few acres of land. He kidnaps sweet innocent Claire and takes him to his home where he does ALL of the things to her that happened in the book. But instead of going to the theatre and opera, they go to the local movie theater. Instead of insanely expensive gifts and clothing, they are more economical versions that you could buy at the mall down the road. And what if Anthony's grandfather was arrested by Claire's grandfather for dealing drugs instead of cooking the books? Would you still feel Anthony is deserving of forgiveness and your love?
Now, let's say when you get home this evening your neighbor tells you that the sweet shy woman that lives down the road and you speak to in the grocery store is in the hospital fighting for her life because her seemingly nice and resepcatble husband beat her half to death with his bare hands because she was late getting home from lunch with her friend. He truly does love her, but she promised him that she would follow his rules and she didn't. He had told her there would be consequences if she didn't obey his rules. It is her fault that he had to hurt her, he promised he wouldn't do anything like that if she would would just do as he said. Is this man deserving of your admiration and respect?
Again, sorry for the long post. And when I say you, I'm not calling anyone out, these questions are for any and everyone.
This doesn´t work for me, if I change the story...Just in this particular case with Tony/ handsome billionaire and all that follows...
I can fully understand that Claire prefers him/ is attracted to him.
So, it is purely superficial for you, Katerina? Would you really let a man hurt you emotionally and physically as long as he is attractive and buys you nice things? I hope that didn't come off as bitchy, I'm not trying to be, I am honestly and genuinely curious about this. I haven't read Truth, I'm just trying to get a grasp on how people could idolize someone as cruel and vindictive as Anthony Rawlings. And I know this is fiction and these are not real people, but some of the things that happened in Consequences seemed very real to me... I can see some of the situations from the book happening in real-life abusive relationships. And that is why this book upset me so.
Kim wrote: "So, it is purely superficial for you, Katerina? Would you really let a man hurt you emotionally and physically as long as he is attractive and buys you nice things? I hope that didn't come off as..."
I know this sounds weird, i cannot explain it to myself either.
I have never dealt with such things as described in these two books, and i don´t know if i really, really would behave like Claire does. But I kept thinking about it, for a long time after I finished these books.
Don´t get me wrong, but at this time in this world, women get hurt emotionally and physically by men. I don´t know if all of them buy nice things afterwards, but it is a fact that for odd reasons women still stick to them.
So when I think of this particular character in this book, I must confess, that I feel somehow captivated, yet cannot explain why.
Oh Katerina I totally agree with you. I questioned myself many times. But I think for me I feel Tony truly loves Claire, deeply, which he didn't expect. Also my gut instinct is that there is more to the story so therefore I can't hate him. I have hope ! lol
Kim, you should give Truth a try. I would agree with Katerina & Terri, it's not that liking this book would mean cheering for abuser. It is very angst no doubt, but there's secret behind it, and more will be reveal in 3rd book. I hope all the reviews and discussions wouldn't spoil your read or put off you from reading this book. This book is one of controversial taboo read, like many other good books such as Lolita. You either be put-off or you'll understand. The writing & story line is amazing, so to me it is a worthy read.
Hasbe wrote: "Kim, you should give Truth a try. I would agree with Katerina & Terri, it's not that liking this book would mean cheering for abuser. It is very angst no doubt, but there's secret behind it, and mo..."Agreed Hasbe :)
A weight has fallen off of me...Thank God, I´am not the only one with such strange feelings.
It is unbelievable what books can do to one.
I guess my thing with this is that so often in real life, abusers do truly and with all of their hearts and souls love their wife/gf/child, but they are still compelled to do horrible things when the wife/gf/child disappoints them. I do believe that Anthony fell in love with Claire, but that doesn't make the things he did okay. What if in Consequences when he (view spoiler) he had hit her just a little harder and actually killed her... I feel confindent he would have felt miserable and truly grieved her loss and even felt guilty, but that would not change the fact that he murdered her in the heat of anger.
I haven't decided yet about reading Truth, part of me wants to, but part of me is actually scared that I will have the desire to forgive him as so many of you have. I don't think he deserves forgiveness from any of us and most especially from Claire. He is the reason her parents are dead, not even mentioning the horrible things he did to Claire directly.
Hasbe, I'm all for controversial and taboo books, hence the reason I picked up Consequences to start with, I knew it was going to be dark and emotional... but I was not prepared for how strongly it affected me. And in a way, I really liked it, I couldn't put it down, but I just can't see Anthony as a good guy. My hatred of Tony is not a hatred of the book as a whole.
I read Captive in the Dark & Seduced in the Dark which are books of kidnapping, abuse, and the sex trade. I absolutely 100% loved them. I had very little problem forgiving Caleb in the end, despite all of the horrible things he did. But I cannot compare Caleb to Anthony. Yes, they were both driven by the desire for revenge and kidnapped a beautiful young woman to get their revenge, but that is all the two men have in common.
Katerina wrote: "Don´t get me wrong, but at this time in this world, women get hurt emotionally and physically by men. I don´t know if all of them buy nice things afterwards, but it is a fact that for odd reasons women still stick to them"Yes, every single day there are women who stay with abusive men... The usual reason is because they are too scared to actually try to leave. The abuser makes them believe they actually deserve the treatment and that they couldn't possibly survive in the big world without him. They are afraid if they leave, he will find them and things will be that much worse, assuming he doesn't actually kill her. Absolutely no one should have to feel fear of the people they love, ever! If you do fear what your significant other might do to you, you need to find help and get out of there as fast as possible.
Kim, I have the same emotion you had reading Consequences. I could never see my self forgiving Tony ever , when I picked up the truth I wanted Tony Rot & dead period. But Ms Romig have some big surprises as always, I'm not giving any spoiler away. the captive series are brilliant Stockholm syndrome read, but consequences & truth is different kind of animal, more darker, intense mindfuck & more angsty definitely Not for the faint hearted. I took me a while to recover from reading these books.
I'm emotionally invested in this series now; I need to keep reading. I'm trusting Aleatha Romig when she writes "It will be worth it - I promise".
This book was very disturbing and could not believe the end. I have the 2nd book on my to do list but i'm not sure if I even want to read it for fear it will be the same for poor Sophie.
Sandy wrote: "This book was very disturbing and could not believe the end. I have the 2nd book on my to do list but i'm not sure if I even want to read it for fear it will be the same for poor Sophie."You must read it Sandy, gives you a much better insight into Anthony Rawlings. I can't wait for Convicted to come out.
Ok...I'm not even sure where to post this question, but does the whole Cleveland thing make you feel even dirtier for reading this series? The series made me uncomfortable before, but now...it's even worse. I'm in NO WAY saying anything negative about the author or fans. I do understand the difference between fiction and real life, I'm just wondering if that has changed anyone's perception of the book.
I was already very disturbed by this book and the fact that people are "in love" with Anthony Rawlings after reading the second book. Unfortunately, I doubt that the Cleveland kidnapping case will change anyone's perception of this series. I brought up the question once before if people would forgive Anthony if instead of the handsome millionaire, he was an unattractive middle class man. It came down to the fact that Anthony's looks, money, and ability to buy nice things was what made him forgivable.
I thought Anthony was horrible too, but I just wondered what others thought. Evidently it didn't bother them, since no one responded...
Shellody wrote: "I thought Anthony was horrible too, but I just wondered what others thought. Evidently it didn't bother them, since no one responded..."This is a work of fiction. Names, characters, places and incidents either are products of the author’s imagination or are used fictitiously. Any resemblance to actual events or locales or persons, living or dead, is entirely coincidental.
Do you thing anyone will stop playing ego-shooters on xbox or playstation whenever lunatics decide to take peoples lives?
Does anybody really believe after or even while reading this book that we are cheering for rapist or abusers and want people going through this torture?
No way!
Katerina wrote: "Shellody wrote: "I thought Anthony was horrible too, but I just wondered what others thought. Evidently it didn't bother them, since no one responded..."This is a work of fiction. Names, charact..."
Once again Katerina I totally agree with you !
I don't want a HEA for Tony and Claire. I want Tony to die a horrible, painful death.And I want Claire to wake the hell up!
Not sure if I can even read the third book.
I just finished the 1st book "Consequences" & the only reason I need to go on is to find what will happen to Tony (I do hope it's BAD). Isn't that what a book is supposed to do though? Make you feel invested in your emotions??????
That's how I am with the second book. Not sure if I can get through.
Katerina wrote: "Shellody wrote: "I thought Anthony was horrible too, but I just wondered what others thought. Evidently it didn't bother them, since no one responded..."This is a work of fiction. Names, charact..."
I don't understand why people get so defensive....I was curious, not judging. Yes, it was a work of fiction, as I acknowledged previously. I don't like the character, I did not bond with him, you did...so what? I like sushi...that doesn't mean I think less of people who don't.
I have said before that while I didn't enjoy the book, I think it was well-written and thought provoking. The writing is incredible, and I believe the author is brilliant. It is a good book...but not for me.
If you did enjoy it, great! I simply was curious if real life events made anyone rethink their position. I never said you should, I was just asking a question.
Red wrote: "I don't want a HEA for Tony and Claire. I want Tony to die a horrible, painful death.And I want Claire to wake the hell up!
Not sure if I can even read the third book."
I don't think I can read it either....I think I'm going to read the spoilers just for closure, but I don't think I'll actually feel closure when all is said and done :)
Shellody wrote: "Katerina wrote: "Shellody wrote: "I thought Anthony was horrible too, but I just wondered what others thought. Evidently it didn't bother them, since no one responded..."This is a work of fictio..."
I didn´t want to get defensive, I just wanted to express my thoughts after this reading experience.
and even if you are judging... doesn´t mean I won´t be able to sleep at nights :-)))
So many bad things are happening out there every single second... I don´t mix them with the books I am reading.
If I don´t like what I am reading and it bothers me too much, I stop it and that´s it...that is the advantage that books and every other work of fiction have.
Unfortunately this doesn´t apply to all other things...
Kim wrote: "I finished reading Consequences earlier this week and I have to say, I have never had a book make me so upset as this one! I almost always get completly absorbed into a good story, I am often overl..."Kim, I'm only halfway through and the book is completely fucking with my mind. Claire seems to be showing all the signs of a domestic violence victim. I will never trust Tony, although I can see why Claire still feels obliged to stay with him. I think there was something in the book where Tony tells Claire that if she ever escapes, she'll spend the rest of her life looking over her shoulder.
Weirdly it's more scarier reading this book than watching a movie, you just don't know what will happen next.
Just wait Nahida, the biggest mindfuck comes later in the book. I'll be interested to hear your reactions to everything the happens in the second half. I agree, books are way scarier than watching movies... it gets under your skin and inside your head much deeper than a movie can. The mark of a good book for me is one that brings out strong emotions and stays with me. Consequences was one of those books for me, but the emotions I felt were anger, frustration, incredulity... and a constant thought of WTF! going through my mind.
So many different opinions. I read this book last year and remember absolutely hating it and and no interest in the second one. I was looking for something after The Dark Duet, and this was not it at all.
Tiffany wrote: "So many different opinions. I read this book last year and remember absolutely hating it and and no interest in the second one. I was looking for something after The Dark Duet, and this was not i..."I had a definite love/hate relationship with this book. I couldn't put it down, but I absolutely freaking hated it. I stayed incredibly pissed off over the things that happened in it. I've never had a book make me so angry before. I still have no desire to read the second book because of all of the people that say they "fell in love" with the Abusive Asshole that is Anthony Rawlings. I can't imagine that. I still want him to suffer for everything he did to Claire.
It says something that I can still remember the characters' names. I'm bad to forget names. This book haunted me. I still get angry if I think about it too much.
Speaking of The Dark Duet... did you know there is another book coming out this month? Epilogue is from Caleb's POV. I can't wait to read it. There are some teasers of the first chapter or so on CJ Roberts' webpage. I'm re-reading the Duet this month so it is fresh in my memory before starting Epilogue.
Yep, counting down to the next Duet installment. I absolutely loved those books and think this one will be just as good. I am not a fan of the new POV books telling the same story, but this will be after they met in Spain and how he acclimates to "normal life". Ugh, Caleb. Swoon.
Nahida wrote: "Kim wrote: "I finished reading Consequences earlier this week and I have to say, I have never had a book make me so upset as this one! I almost always get completly absorbed into a good story, I am..."OMG, I loved the ending of the first book! Just when I thought Claire could escape him, he reeled her in.
I've nearly finished reading Truth - not as good as the first book I've got to say. I'm still on Team TonyIsADouche, no matter what he does in the second book I still hate him.
Claire, what do you see in this guy? His lovely arrogant personality, short temper or his creepy obsession with his Grandfather?
Don't know whether I'll bother reading the third book since I am now resenting Claire (who was my only reason for reading the series).
The books are amusing. I finished them in 3 days. My emotions are up and down and cannot be calm. I hate Tony in Book 1. I don't understand why Claire agreed to marry Tony after what Tony had done to her. Tony was unforgivable to place the trap to his wife. How could he do that if he really loved Claire? Claire deserved better life. After her release, she should keep her living as normal as possible and told the world that she lived well. I prefer she loved Harry, rather than Tony. I agreed that Tony might be irresistible, but Claire should not be back with him. He didn't deserve it and even had an offspring. But I believe Romiq favour Tony over Harry. The baby made Claire to return to Tony so easily and looked naturally. If Claire was not pregnant, the story should end in different way.By the end of Book 2, it seems to hint that the bad guy was not Tony. Tony would also be destroyed by the bad guy. I think the Romiq would want to give more excuses to Tony to justify what he did to Claire. I wonder what will happen. I look forward to seeing the third book. I love the book.
Oh Nahida, that makes me so glad to know someone is reading book two and isn't in love with The Abusive Asshole! That gives me hope! LOL. I'm still not convinced I want to read the second book, much less the third one. Maybe after book three comes out and I can find out if karma bites Anthony in the ass like it should, I'll decide if I want to pursue it. If Anthony and Claire end up with a HEA, I'll probably just read through the spoilers and be done with the idiots for good! LOL
Everyone in the world must have a much more forgiving nature than me because nothing Tony does in Truth excuses the treatment of Claire in Consequences. Bare in mind I'm an actual fan of the books but can not fangirl this dude at all. It's a great psychological thriller which highlights how abusive relationships tick. I can't judge anyone too harshly but can not understand the crushing on this character.
Kim wrote: "I finished reading Consequences earlier this week and I have to say, I have never had a book make me so upset as this one! I almost always get completly absorbed into a good story, I am often overl..."I agree with you 100%! For me there's no way that Tony could possibly redeem himself, I mean, not only did he beat the crap out of her, but he SENT HER TO JAIL!!!!!! What consequences should he suffer for all this horrible things he's done to Claire and John Vandersol?
I think I need to give this series another try. I started it and just didn't get it. Also I'm from Davenport Ia and know the city and Iowa City very well, and some of the things the author described didn't really sound like these areas to me.
Yana wrote: "I can't make myself relax after finishing this book"Me too!!! i felt like i need to read something very light after finishing the horrible disturbing novel!!
KimeyDiann wrote: "I finished reading Consequences earlier this week and I have to say, I have never had a book make me so upset as this one! I almost always get completly absorbed into a good story, I am often overl..."Totally agree with your post, i hate Anthony and i dont want to like him or understand him, after all he did, i wanted revenge for Claire, but after reading a few chapters of Truth i couldn't continue; Because the book insinuated that Claire actually forgive Tony and Tony suddenly becomes good.
Yes this was a very disturbing book. The rape was in a way unimportant - it was the way Tony manipulated Claire that was so creepy. And the end - I could not believe it.Very well written.
Does the book have descriptive sex Or erotica or no sex. Please tell me. Rape scenes are descriptive or not.
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It took me some time to recover...I am still trying to figure out, why I am so attracted to Tony.
Never once, I wanted Claire to fall in love with this other guy in "Truth". I already have forgotten his name...
Probably, I am not quite right in the head.