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message 751: by Greg (new)

Greg | 363 comments Joseph wrote: "Had a bit of a glitch Friday evening -- I went to a concert to see some Tuvan throat singers and when I got home, I discovered I'd left my Kindle behind. So I spent the weekend reading actual paper..."

I have so many printed books to read at this stage that I'm glad I don't have a kindle (although I do read downloadable PDFs....). That was good that you got to read two paperbacks for a change (and that your kindle was found).


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Greg | 363 comments Joseph wrote: "S.E. wrote: "Phew, close call Joseph!"

Yeah, it would've been a shame if I had to buy the newest, greatest model ...

Oh, and when I got home sans Kindle, the first thing I had to do was finish [a..."


Still working my way through the first four seasons of Game of Thrones on DVD. I have the first two books but I'll wait for a bit before reading them so my memory of the earlier episodes (as portrayed on the screen) is less fresh in my mind. How do The Tales of Dunk and Egg compare with GoT?


message 753: by Joseph, Master Ultan (last edited Sep 13, 2016 12:51PM) (new)

Joseph | 1319 comments Mod
Greg wrote: "How do The Tales of Dunk and Egg compare with GoT?"

Well, they're on a much smaller scale. (For anyone who's not familiar with Dunk & Egg -- Martin has written a series of novellas set about 100 years before current GoT that follow the adventures of a hedge knight, Duncan, and his squire, Egg; they've all been initially published in great, big anthologies like Robert Silverberg's Legends.) I liked them a lot; they're a reminder that Martin is a really good storyteller, especially in a context that's more focused like this. And it's fun to read them in close proximity to the main GoT books just to see the connections.

They're much more focused on the hedge knight way of life -- plenty of jousting & tourneys, and sleeping rough, but the only times Dunk & Egg get caught up in politics or intrigue, it's because they get drawn in kind of by accident.

So I'd definitely recommend them, and they won't cause any dissonance with the TV series. And the illustrations are lovely.


message 754: by Greg (new)

Greg | 363 comments Joseph wrote: "Greg wrote: "How do The Tales of Dunk and Egg compare with GoT?"

Well, they're on a much smaller scale. (For anyone who's not familiar with Dunk & Egg -- Martin has written a series of novellas se..."


They sound interesting. Will keep an eye out for them!


message 755: by Joseph, Master Ultan (new)

Joseph | 1319 comments Mod
And I just got my copy of Servant of the Jackal God: The Tales of Kamose, Archpriest of Anubis and was amused to see that the cover art was by George Barr, who also did the cover for the Ballantine Adult Fantasy The Broken Sword.

The Broken Sword  by Poul Anderson

Servant of the Jackal God The Tales of Kamose, Archpriest of Anubis by Keith Taylor


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Peter (jimmyshelter) | 82 comments Just finished The Guns of Empire. Great stuff, flintlock fantasy with a good magic system, and great military campaigns. This part was obviously based on Napoleons invasion of Russia. The whole series is great.

Now reading a Dutch novel, as far as I know only published in Dutch: Meesterproeve van Jaap Boekestein. One of the better writers of fantasy in the Netherlands.


message 757: by Peter (last edited Sep 22, 2016 02:41AM) (new)

Peter (jimmyshelter) | 82 comments Currently reading The Failing God by Mike Jansen. I'm reading the original Dutch version, but it's one of the few Dutch books translated in English.

The blurbs of the book compare it to the works of Steven Erikson, Fritz Leiber and Glen Cook, which sounds pretty interesting.

So far it reminds me most of Steven Erikson, although a whole lot easier. Still a truckload of characters, countries and other entities to keep track off, but Jansen is not sparse with information. Maybe even not sparse enough.
A few times there were some info dumps, although I can appreciate giving a (humorous) background of a whole page for a character that is killed off on the next. Another point I did not like too much is characters explaining stuff to each other which either the other characters already knows, or on the other hand should know.
I am enjoying it so far, though.


message 758: by Greg (new)

Greg | 363 comments Peter wrote: "Currently reading The Failing God by Mike Jansen. I'm reading the original Dutch version, but it's one of the few Dutch books translated in English.

The blurbs of the book compare ..."


Looks interesting, Peter - added it to my tbr.


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Jason Waltz (worddancer) | 385 comments I also just grabbed the eBook off Amazon. thanks for the recommendation - anyone that evokes Erikson, Cook, & Leiber is already a winner.


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ToHoCo | 1 comments I am currently reading the Lightbringer series by Brent Weeks, honestly hoping to find something better though


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Peter (jimmyshelter) | 82 comments Finished The Failing God. Promising, but not without it's flaws.

Now switching to some short stories of Beneath Ceaseless Skies #85 again.


message 762: by Greg (new)

Greg | 363 comments Peter wrote: "Finished The Failing God. Promising, but not without it's flaws.

Now switching to some short stories of Beneath Ceaseless Skies #85 again."


You might like to know, Peter, that Beneath Ceaseless Skies just won the 2016 British Fantasy Award for Best Magazine/Periodical, according to Locus Magazine!


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Peter (jimmyshelter) | 82 comments I didn't know. A well deserved award, BCS has been publishing over 200 issues with some high quality writing.


message 764: by Greg (new)

Greg | 363 comments Peter wrote: "I didn't know. A well deserved award, BCS has been publishing over 200 issues with some high quality writing."

I haven't read any of the magazines as yet but I've noted what you have said about them in your reviews and I've really liked their covers. When I get a bit more time, I'll subscribe and catch up on some fantasy/sci-fi reading.


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Peter (jimmyshelter) | 82 comments Ha, more time. I could read fulltime and still not read a quarter of all the books I'd like to read.


message 766: by Greg (new)

Greg | 363 comments Peter wrote: "Ha, more time. I could read fulltime and still not read a quarter of all the books I'd like to read."

It would be many decades before I got through my 'To be read' list! Perhaps 'wish list' would be a better term for that shelf!


message 767: by Peter (new)

Peter (jimmyshelter) | 82 comments I just finished Beneath Ceaseless Skies #140 with a flintlock fantasy and a sword & sorcery story.

Especially story, taking place in a pre-islamic Persian inspired setting is great stuff.


message 768: by S.E., Gray Mouser (Emeritus) (new)

S.E. Lindberg (selindberg) | 2357 comments Mod
Peter, I am thinking you deserve a dedicated BCS folder!


message 769: by Peter (new)

Peter (jimmyshelter) | 82 comments To be honest it's our fellow group member Fletcher Vredenburgh's 'fault'.
Through his Short Story Roundups I discoverd BCS. He also often posts about some other online magazines I'd like to read more, Heroic Fantasy Quarterly and Swords & Sorcery Magazine.
Because BCS does have ebook downloads, while the other only have their webpages I never get around to it. I do most of my reading on an ereader while commuting, and reading from webpages just doesn't suit me.

Links:
http://www.heroicfantasyquarterly.com/
http://www.swordsandsorcerymagazine.com/


message 770: by George (new)

George | 3 comments I'm currently reading "Conan and The Amazon" and Star Trek: Titan - "Taking Wing".


message 771: by S.wagenaar (new)

S.wagenaar | 418 comments Let me know what you think of Conan and the Amazon. I have this one, but have yet to read it . John Maddox Roberts is one of the better Conan pastiche authors.


message 772: by S.E., Gray Mouser (Emeritus) (new)

S.E. Lindberg (selindberg) | 2357 comments Mod
Peter wrote: "To be honest it's our fellow group member Fletcher Vredenburgh's 'fault'.
Through his Short Story Roundups I discoverd BCS. He also often posts about some other online magazines I'd like to read mo..."


Hey Peter, I copied your comment-link to Fletcher's Facebook wall to thank him! Thank you too for sharing your reviews on BCS


message 773: by Fletcher (new)

Fletcher Vredenburgh | 91 comments Peter wrote: "To be honest it's our fellow group member Fletcher Vredenburgh's 'fault'.
Through his Short Story Roundups I discoverd BCS. He also often posts about some other online magazines I'd like to read mo..."
I give BCS some guff, but it's a well done zine with the very good writers gracing its virtual pages

Peter wrote: "To be honest it's our fellow group member Fletcher Vredenburgh's 'fault'.
Through his Short Story Roundups I discoverd BCS. He also often posts about some other online magazines I'd like to read mo..."



message 774: by Peter (last edited Oct 09, 2016 12:49AM) (new)

Peter (jimmyshelter) | 82 comments Yes, they do seem to go through some cycles of more 'modern' thematic fantasy stories before publishing some more plot heavy stories, but whatever the theme they publish high quality stuff.

I still wish the other online magazines would follow their lead of publishing the content in epub/pdf format.


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Peter (jimmyshelter) | 82 comments Jack wrote: "After finishing the Books of the South omnibus, I'm reading the next book in The Black Company series, The Silver Spike, and may mix in some Warhammer 40K ([book:Gaunt's Ghosts: The F..."

I did read the first Black Company book, but it didn't click with me, but I see people of this group reading them all the time. So I guess I'll have to give the series a second chance.

I loved the Gaunt's Ghosts books. I don't usually read media tie-in novels, but these WH40K novels are great stuff. Great military sf, unapologetic pulp. Fast paced, great action and great characters. I read through the whole series in a few weeks.


message 776: by Greg (new)

Greg | 363 comments It's not S&S but, having bought this book last year, I thought I'd continue with Michael Grant's Gone series and start reading Lies.

And I'd like to read some Black Company books too. So little time....


message 777: by Richard (new)

Richard | 816 comments Greg wrote: "It's not S&S but, having bought this book last year, I thought I'd continue with Michael Grant's Gone series and start reading Lies.

And I'd like to read some Black Company books t..."


The Black Company and Dread Empire are really enjoyable. Worth the time.


message 778: by Greg (new)

Greg | 363 comments Richard wrote: "Greg wrote: "It's not S&S but, having bought this book last year, I thought I'd continue with Michael Grant's Gone series and start reading Lies.

And I'd like to read some Black Co..."


I guess I'll just have to make time for it then! :)


message 779: by Joseph, Master Ultan (new)

Joseph | 1319 comments Mod
For myself, I've been reading Rachel Aaron's Eli Monpress books (The Legend of Eli Monpress is an omnibus of the first three novels, of five in total), which aren't S&S, but which are a lot of fun and which do feature some impressive swords and feats of sorcery.


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Richard | 816 comments Joseph wrote: "For myself, I've been reading Rachel Aaron's Eli Monpress books (The Legend of Eli Monpress is an omnibus of the first three novels, of five in total), which aren't..."

I've read the first three books in the omnibus and really enjoyed them. I only wish that the last two books of the series were put into an omnibus.


message 781: by Richard (new)

Richard | 816 comments I've picked up a copy of Talus and the Frozen King by Graham Edwards. I've never heard of the author before, but the story seemed interesting. It's kind of a murder mystery set in a place similar to the Orkneys in northern Scotland during the Neolithic period. I figured I'd give it a go...


message 782: by Joseph, Master Ultan (new)

Joseph | 1319 comments Mod
Richard wrote: "I've read the first three books in the omnibus and really enjoyed them. I only wish that the last two books of the series were put into an omnibus. "

I think they were, but just in a UK edition, maybe?


message 783: by Greg (new)

Greg | 363 comments Richard wrote: "I've picked up a copy of Talus and the Frozen King by Graham Edwards. I've never heard of the author before, but the story seemed interesting. It's kind of a murder mystery set in a place similar t..."

Sounds interesting - I added it to my TBR shelf.


message 784: by George (new)

George | 3 comments S.wagenaar wrote: "Let me know what you think of Conan and the Amazon. I have this one, but have yet to read it . John Maddox Roberts is one of the better Conan pastiche authors."

I really enjoyed "Conan and The Amazon". I agree that Roberts is one of the better of the pastiche writers. I'm going to have to read more of his books.


message 785: by S.wagenaar (new)

S.wagenaar | 418 comments Great. I have this on my shelf, brand new, never read. I might read this for the Nov-Dec group read.


message 786: by Peter (new)

Peter (jimmyshelter) | 82 comments On holiday, so plenty of reading time. Started with the very first issue of Beneath Ceaseless Skies. Very pleasant surprise: it contains the first part of a Bone & Gaunt novella. Very nice sword & sorcery.


message 787: by Greg (new)

Greg | 363 comments Just bought this book at a remaindered price yesterday: Beastmaster: Myth. Not actually reading it yet but just wondering if anyone else has?


message 788: by Michael (new)

Michael (dolphy76) | 74 comments just finished "Mage, Maze, Demon" by Charles Gramlich along with a couple of other great short stories. Loved it! 5 stars! I am no reading "Wings Over Talera" by Charles Gramlich. I expect to read the third installment in this series as well. I have all three and love them! Very much inspired by Edgar Rice Burroughs "John Carter" series but Charles is a great writer and this is a genre I truly love (Sword and Planet). Charles, I plan to read your whole catalog! :)


message 789: by Michael (new)

Michael (dolphy76) | 74 comments I just finished "Mage, Maze, Demon" by Charles Allen Gramlich which also incorporated two other short stories and loved it! 5 Stars!
I am currently reading "Wings Over Talera" by Charles and will follow it up with Book three in the Talera Trilogy. Very much derivative of Edgar Rice Burroughs "John Carter" stories but I love Charles' writings and love the genre "Sword and Planet". I plan to l read Charles' entire catalog! :)


message 790: by Richard (new)

Richard | 816 comments Greg wrote: "Just bought this book at a remaindered price yesterday: Beastmaster: Myth. Not actually reading it yet but just wondering if anyone else has?"

Sounds interesting. I loved the movie as a kid. Just added another to the TBR list.


message 791: by Michael (new)

Michael (dolphy76) | 74 comments Richard wrote: "Greg wrote: "Just bought this book at a remaindered price yesterday: Beastmaster: Myth. Not actually reading it yet but just wondering if anyone else has?"

Sounds interesting. I lov..."


I read the Book "Beastmaster" by Andre Norton when I was a kid and revisited it a year ago and still liked it. It is a Young Adult type Science Fiction story. The movie was loosely based on the book and was turned into more of a Sword and Sorcery Tale. It played on HBO constantly in the 1980s. It was fun "guilty pleasure" for an old S&S lover. Never read any other books about The Beastmaster although some sequels were written by her and several posthumously.


message 792: by S.E., Gray Mouser (Emeritus) (new)

S.E. Lindberg (selindberg) | 2357 comments Mod
Hey Michael... there are a number of Gramlich fans here ;)


message 793: by Michael (new)

Michael (dolphy76) | 74 comments S.E. wrote: "Hey Michael... there are a number of Gramlich fans here ;)"

Understandable!


message 794: by S.wagenaar (new)

S.wagenaar | 418 comments A Gathering of Ravens, by Scott Oden. I am lucky enough to have received an advance copy from Scott to read. I told him I would do my best to help create buzz for the book before it's official release next June. I'm probably preaching to the choir here...:)


message 795: by Greg (new)

Greg | 363 comments Richard wrote: "Greg wrote: "Just bought this book at a remaindered price yesterday: Beastmaster: Myth. Not actually reading it yet but just wondering if anyone else has?"

Sounds interesting. I lov..."


I liked the movie as a kid as well although I did think even then that Jack Palance was a bit hammy in the role!

Michael wrote: "Richard wrote: "Greg wrote: "Just bought this book at a remaindered price yesterday: Beastmaster: Myth. Not actually reading it yet but just wondering if anyone else has?"

Sounds in..."


I didn't know that the movie was based (albeit loosely) on a novel by Andre Norton. I'd like to read that sometime.


message 796: by Michael (new)

Michael (dolphy76) | 74 comments Greg wrote: "Richard wrote: "Greg wrote: "Just bought this book at a remaindered price yesterday: Beastmaster: Myth. Not actually reading it yet but just wondering if anyone else has?"

Sounds in..."


Andre Norton was a favorite of mine as a kid in the 60s. Beastmaster, Daybreak 2250 A.D and the Witchworld Novels some of her best. After the big S&S movie craze around the time of Conan The Barbarian they changed it to a S&S movie and capitalized on it. Read the book if you get a chance. It's a quick read.


message 797: by Michael (new)

Michael (dolphy76) | 74 comments S.wagenaar wrote: "A Gathering of Ravens, by Scott Oden. I am lucky enough to have received an advance copy from Scott to read. I told him I would do my best to help create buzz for the book before it's official rele..."

I read "Lion of Cairo" and loved it! I've been meaning to get to more of his stuff.


message 798: by Richard (new)

Richard | 816 comments Michael wrote: "Greg wrote: "Richard wrote: "Greg wrote: "Just bought this book at a remaindered price yesterday: Beastmaster: Myth. Not actually reading it yet but just wondering if anyone else has..."

Thanks Greg. I've read Ms. Norton's Witch world books and enjoyed them but I've never read her Beastmaster books. Guess I'll have to keep an eye out for them.


message 799: by Periklis, Fafhrd (Emeritus) (new)

Periklis | 427 comments Mod
I've been reading a few noteworthy Sword & Sorcery related titles lately.

* Black Road, Vol. 1: The Holy North, which brought to mind RE Howards historical fiction,with a little bit more of Conan's savagery in it...

*Britannia. Ony two monthly issues, of this five-issue mini series, have been released. Its historical S&S plus Cthulhu Mythos (similar to the Simon Magus stories). The writing is really good and the artwork visceral, from the artist of Wolfskin, Juan José Ryp.

Currently reading, Night's Dominion #1, a superherotake on S&S on a setting that promises to be Lankhmar-ish. Only two issues released thus far...


message 800: by Greg (new)

Greg | 363 comments Periklis wrote: "I've been reading a few noteworthy Sword & Sorcery related titles lately.

* Black Road, Vol. 1: The Holy North, which brought to mind RE Howards historical fiction,with a little bi..."


Those graphic novels look cool so I've added them to my TBR shelf!


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