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I read it years ago because of its ties to the dark tower. Really enjoyed it. I'd also recommend it.
What about11/22/63? Is that more alternative history than sci fi? It's a time travel book and not horror as far as I know (haven't had a chance to read it yet).

Yeah, 11/22/63 is time travel. I don't know if I'd call it alternate history. I won't say more for fear of spoiling it! It was the first Stephen King novel that I've read, and I enjoyed it. It was long, but pretty good.
I have the sample for the Eye of the Dragon on my kindle, so I'm looking forward to reading it once I'm done with my re-read of Towers of Midnight.
I'm not sure if the Dark Tower is something I would enjoy though.

I haven't read that one either. It's on my list.

Yeah, 11/22/63 is time..."
If you enjoy fantasy, you'll probably enjoy The Dark Tower. It truly is a masterpiece, and really isn't horror at all (though it has many elements of horror). I've read up to the fourth book so far. Book IV was a bit slow and hard to get through, but I've been assured by my wife that the series picks up after that.
I wasn't sure about reading the eyes of the dragon because I hadn't heard anything really good about it. I've owned the darn book for over 20 years and never opened it. :) And here I've been missing a great story all this time.



I've never liked the Dark Tower series, though in fairness I've never been able to make it past chapter two of book one. There's no attempt to grab you in the in the beginning.
King often uses sci fi in his stories. The Mist, The Stand and The Tommy Knockers all use sci elements, no matter where they go. I wouldn't expect a hard science fiction novel out of him. It wouldn't be to his strengths as a writer, but he's very good as using it as a portal to the dark places of possibility.

Skip the first book, its the earliest and there's a gap between him writing that book and the rest. Start on book 2. After or during reading book 3, you may or may not want to return to book 1 as there are references to events (or non events) in the original book. I appreciated the first book more as I read through the series.

Its sci fi. The whole premise is a rip in the space time continuium that allows the lead character to return to a specific date in the late 1950's.
Toward the end of the book you'll find out how and why the hole exists and it gets very sci fi at that point as well as connecting the book into the DT series (not that you need to have read other DT books as it stands alone but DT book readers will have some ah-ha moments).

I'll have to try that. Should be easy, I've got the first four in boxed set somewhere

I don't get it... I loved the first book. Couldn't put it down. And it's short, so it's a fast read.
I actually found the fourth book the hardest to get through so far because It's mostly back story.
I was looking into the character Randal Flagg and on his wiki page they describe the following read order for the King novels that feature him.
The Stand > Eyes of The Dragon > Dark Tower
Anyone recommend this order?
The Stand > Eyes of The Dragon > Dark Tower
Anyone recommend this order?

Did you get as far as Roland getting on that same plane?
Thomas wrote: "I don't get it... I loved the first book. Couldn't put it down. And it's short, so it's a fast read."
I loved the first book as well. I like the device he uses where you keep going back in time. But the other books were written a lot later when his writing was improved, and the first book was originally intended as a single standalone story. The rest of the series while faithful to the first book, don't really rely too heavily on the first.

It always amazes me how different people see different books. For instance, I thought The Waste Lands was an amazing book, and Wizard and Glass was dull. Took me a very long time to push myself through Wizard and Glass.
But I think this is the case with all King books. They are love em or hate em.
I haven't read the other Flagg books yet (other than DT 1 through 4), but I do want to read The Stand some day. My wife tells me it's very good.

Did you get as far as Roland getting on that same plane?"
I got to where Roland was talking to the drug dealer...

I found the voice took a little getting used to. But yes, it's very different, and makes it interesting. It's not your typical King novel.

To each their own. The Waste Lands is my fav King book and one of my fav books of all time.
I love books 2-4, 4 being my favorite. I like the other books in the series, including book 1. It's the first real series of books I read growing up. It felt like an eternity between book 4 and 5.

Loved the Stand and his Maximum overdrive short story.


Ohh I haven't met Naomi yet. I'll have to keep an eye out for her. :)



I agree. It was certainly very different from King's usual style. But I *am* a fan of his work, and this book was no exception. :)
This is *NOT* your typical Stephen King novel. It's pure fantasy, and if you liked The Dark Tower series, you'll probably enjoy this book as well.