Lisa - (Aussie Girl)’s Comments (group member since Sep 26, 2012)

Lisa - (Aussie Girl)’s comments from the Nothing But Reading Challenges group.

Eldarwen wrote: "Oh wow! Nice going, Lisa!

Glad to hear you're enjoying it so far :-)

I'll see how far I can get today. I wanted to do a little something productive, like chores today, but I may just leave those ..."

Never let a little thing like chores get in the way of a good book. He endeth the lesson!

Eldarwen wrote: "I'm almost done with Book 1 and thoroughly enjoying this. Cannot wait to see where this is going.

One thing is for absolutely certain so far at least: Aaron is an ass :-p

[spoilers removed]"

I'm getting towards the end of the book... and still no (view spoiler)[comuppence for Aaron! (hide spoiler)]

And I'm really intrigued about the relationship between Gabriel and Astrid. A lot of teasing and I've got a bit of a feeling they are not going to have a lasting HEA.. 😒

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26) Out of all the people in the city, why do you think the Devil decided to help the Master and Margarita? Or did he really even help them?

It was all a bit of chaos really. And maybe that's the Devil's aim. Big I dunno !!


27) What do you think are some of the things the author was trying to convey with this book?

The only thing I took from this is bad/crazy things happen all the time and people either look away or rationalize. Is this the Devil and Hell is really on Earth? Again, you could spend hours pondering this. People who know this stuff say it was the author's satire on the situation with Stalin. But it seemed a pretty convoluted way of describing it.


28) All through the Devil seems to insist to others that Jesus really exists. Why do you think that is?
I guess you can't have one without the other?

29) (Thanks Google! - I thought this was interesting) The title to Chapter 30 (It’s Time! It’s Time!) references this poem by Alexander Pushkin:
It's time, my friend, it's time! The peace is craved by hearts...
Days flow after days -- each hour departs
A bit of life -- and both, you and I,
Plan a long life, but could abruptly die.
The world hasn't happiness, but there is freedom, peace.
And long have I daydreamed the life of bliss --
And long have planned, a tired slave, the flight
To the removed abode of labor and delight.
Now the question:
It seemed to me that peace (as described in the poem) was a pretty great reward for the Master. But why do you think/ what did in mean that the Master " earned peace but not light?"


Agree with what some others have said. Light would be heaven, peace may be oblivion.


30). What did you rate the book and why?

Like a lot of classic literature of the time it needs a lot of explaining and thinking through. Maybe it is the Russian style? Did I enjoy it? Not really but I always enjoy the discussion and getting the POV from others.

It really fits into the category... "Supposed to be literary fiction by people who know... but WTF was going on! Only 2 stars from me.

I'm half way through. It's pretty good, but not the sort of book you can skip through. And it does jump between time frames so you've got to pay attention. Liking the main character... at lot.

That's great, Sixty. That's going to help a lot. Well done. 😍

Moderators of NBRC wrote: "Lisa - (Aussie Girl) wrote: "I'll volunteer for Team Ajax.

And can I use my BOM points for an extra entry, please."

Done - note that you have no more participation points now (the record is on t..."

Haha Yes, thank you. But I've got three more in the pipeline, bwahahahaha. Hopefully I'll be successful this time and be picked. 🤞

Emma (M) wrote: "Karolyn wrote: "Good point! And remember we can bank books for this challenge, so even if it was 3-4 weeks later we could still use it"

Since they’ve provided the Master List, maybe it’s worth not..."

That's a great idea, Emma.

I've got one for T16 - 112 pages. There is also a Vegas Wedding Banquet so that covers T17 as well.

I think I've got myself totally confused by the end. Is The Master ever actually called by his name by anyone? Or is always The Master. Makes me think of Dr Who 😂

DQ Day 5
24. The Master is Released -> 27. The Last of Flat No. 50

21) All's well that ends well for the Master and his Margarita! Or is that just another illusion created by Woland? So far at least, it seems like the two of them got what they want - or rather Margarita got what she wanted and the Master is forced to go along and we're of course hoping that it will all turn out for the best. How do you think their story is going to end?

Yes, it all seems to good to be true especially when considering who they are dealing with. I'm wondering if there is going to be a twist at the end.

22) I would not want to be part of the police force in those days, trying to clear up all those messes that the devil and his posse have created while they were playing in Moscow. Lots of people seem to be returning and they all want a padded cell "for their safety" - or would that be sanity? What are your predictions for all these people? Will Iwan realise that he is not actually mad? Will Rimski regain his composure? Will the signing bank personnel believe it was mass hypnosis and all go back to normal? It seems like there is just too much to cover it all up or make it all go away again, or not?
I think all will go back to normal and fade into people's memory. Is this what the author was aiming to convey to the readers? That really bad things happen and in a State such as this it's swept under the carpet and becomes business as usual for the population.

23) Why do you think Margarita is the only person we have encountered in this novel (so far) who seems to think that there was nothing particularly amiss with meeting Woland. She even took the supernatural element in stride. For her, there is nothing to worry and everything seems to be as it should be. What makes her special? Why is it that she is the only one not to question her sanity?
Is this representing the dissident voice or the opposite. The person who goes along with anything just to get along? Mmmm, it could be either.

24) The Jesus chapters seem to have come to an end - what do you think their relation is to the story line set in Moscow in light of what has happened in the chapters in Book 2? At first I thought there was more to them, but now I'm beginning to wonder if they aren't merely bits and pieces from the Master's novel thrown into the mix. What do you think their purpose is?

I have no idea. I'm happy to be enlightened by some other perceptive reader, LOL. On the surface it seems that it was Ivan's book he was writing but in a book known for it's satire and message it's probably deeper than that. Open to interpretation maybe?

25) Any predictions on the last craziness of the devil gang? What are they going to get up to now that they've set flat No. 50 on fire and have flown out the window?

Maybe fly off to create havoc somewhere else where the light needs to be shown on Hell on Earth?

Eldarwen wrote: "It's late here and I've read way too much of this book in a single day for my brain to still be functioning properly at this hour haha. Apologies if the questions seem odd :-)"

No worries, Eldarwen. The questions are all good but if they were odd that would fit right in with the craziness of this novel. 😍

DQ Day 4
Book 2: 19. Margarita -> 23. Satan's Rout

16) Margarita dreams of the Master coming to her and she believes he is either dead and coming for her or alive and wants her to remember him. Have you ever had a dream about a loved one or about something that eventually came true?

I have the occasional vivid dream but usually non sensical ones. Nothing like the ones in this book thankfully.

17) Margarita rubs the cream all over her and turns into a young witch who becomes invisible and flies through the air on a broom. Her first act is to go to the critics house and destroy him but since he is not there she destroys his house instead. Do you think she really would have killed him if he was home?
Yep, she was under the power of the cream. I'm with you Suzanne I was thinking pity you had to sell your soul to get that cream because otherwise I'd be in too! 🤣

18) This ball Woland hosts, what do you think it is meant to symbolize? Why are the women naked and what was the meaning of Margarita taking a few extra seconds with the woman who killed her baby?

Is it a Ball of all the people who end up in Hell for nefarious and evil deeds? Yes, I think she looked at that woman thinking her Hell wasn't of her making. As usual, a man got off scott free!!

19) Do you think Margarita will remain with Woland after this night? She seems to be in over her head and this reunion is not at all what she expected.

Doesn't she make a Faustian pact with the Devil so the Master can go free? I think I read that in my cheat sheet.

20) After reading Book 1 about the Master and a few chapters in Book 2, which are you enjoying more? Is one easier to read or understand than the other?

Yes, book 2 is more enjoyable as we follow Margarita's exploits. Also it was mentioned that the Master was writing a biography of Pontius Pilate so that may explain the link between the two timelines... maybe??

I'm reading which cover Minotaur tasks 2-5. At 711 pages just a bit short for task one unfortunately. Also one beheading, and I'm sure a few more tasks as I'm only a third of the way through.

I love a mini challenge! And the Mods have excelled with this one. Off to see what fits. Enjoy, everyone.

Lost Roses
Note - This is Book 2 - The Lilac Girls book 1 was a BOM quite a while ago, but it is not necessary to have read the first book .

Friendship - between three women with WWI looming!

The runaway bestseller Lilac Girls introduced the real-life heroine Caroline Ferriday. This sweeping new novel, set a generation earlier and also inspired by true events, features Caroline's mother, Eliza, and follows three equally indomitable women from St. Petersburg to Paris under the shadow of World War I.

It is 1914 and the world has been on the brink of war so many times, many New Yorkers treat the subject with only passing interest. Eliza Ferriday is thrilled to be traveling to St. Petersburg with Sofya Streshnayva, a cousin of the Romanov's. The two met years ago one summer in Paris and became close confidantes. Now Eliza embarks on the trip of a lifetime, home with Sofya to see the splendors of Russia. But when Austria declares war on Serbia and Russia's Imperial dynasty begins to fall, Eliza escapes back to America, while Sofya and her family flee to their country estate. In need of domestic help, they hire the local fortuneteller's daughter, Varinka, unknowingly bringing intense danger into their household. On the other side of the Atlantic, Eliza is doing her part to help the White Russian families find safety as they escape the revolution. But when Sofya's letters suddenly stop coming she fears the worst for her best friend.

From the turbulent streets of St. Petersburg to the avenues of Paris and the society of fallen Russian emigre's who live there, the lives of Eliza, Sofya, and Varinka will intersect in profound ways, taking readers on a breathtaking ride through a momentous time in history. (less)

Hyde

Hyde
by Craig Russell (Goodreads Author)
3.89 · Rating details · 739 ratings · 156 reviews
Edward Hyde has a strange gift-or a curse-he keeps secret from all but his physician. He experiences two realities, one real, the other a dreamworld state brought on by a neurological condition.

When murders in Victorian Edinburgh echo the ancient Celtic threefold death ritual, Captain Edward Hyde hunts for those responsible. In the process he becomes entangled in a web of Celticist occultism and dark scheming by powerful figures. The answers are there to be found, not just in the real world but in the sinister symbolism of Edward Hyde’s otherworld.

He must find the killer, or lose his mind.

A dark tale. One that inspires Hyde’s friend . . . Robert Louis Stevenson.

Started this a tad early because it's a long book.

Can I just say I'm enjoying it a lot more than The Master and Margarita, LOL.

DAY 3
11)
“Since antiquity, the rooster has been, and still is, a sacred animal in some cultures and deeply embedded within various religious belief systems and religious worship….
In the sixth century, Pope Gregory declared the rooster the emblem of Christianity and in 9TH century the figure of the rooster was ordered to be placed on every church steeple. Also in Central European folk tales, the devil is believed to flee at the first crowing of a rooster.” (Source : Wikipedia)

Maybe it is just me, but I think there is something deeply symbolic about the fact that in the seemingly atheistic society a man is saved from black magic/the devil by a bird that is strongly connected to Christianity and is part of people’s inherent belief/superstitions. Do you think this was intentional on the author ‘s part and if so what possible message was he trying to pass on?
I agree, most things in this book are intentional.. even though they are probably going over my head! Interesting fact about the cock crow, I'm thinking back to Sunday School now many moons ago... Wasn't there the prophecy that Peter would deny Jesus by the third cock crow thus sealing his fate? Hope I'm remembering that correctly. I like the point that someone made about the juxtaposition of a non religious State with all the Devil and his minions causing havoc there. I haven't picked up why he's actually there yet? Or maybe I've just missed it in all the chaos!

12) Connected to the question above: were there any superstitions you were brought up with or were told about by your family/friends?

Well, I still wouldn't walk under a ladder or step on pavement cracks..

13) While the plot mainly concentrates on the weird happenings in “modern” Moscow and only few chapters are devoted to Jerusalem, do you think any parallels can be drawn between the two cities or their people?
Isn't that the crux of the novel? But if anyone can explain to me the parallel please go ahead, LOL. I actually am enjoying the Jerusalem events more than the Russian ones especially because I am touring Israel, Egypt and Jordan later on this year.

14) One of the many memorable scenes was when people broke out in a “song and dance flashmob” despite their not wanting to (the evil workings of Korovyev, the “ex-choirmaster”, translator ad assistant of Woland). Have you ever participated in a flashmob or saw one performed in person? If not: have you ever been involved in a school play/choir/etc?
Not a flash mob, or choirs but performed in school plays and musicals back in the day.

15) We already agreed that it is quite difficult to make sense of this book. Have you ever read a book that had similar effect on you? (fascination/bewilderment/what-am-I-just-reading? :)

Maybe it's Russian literature but even though I love the BBC version of Anna Karenina the book was a struggle to get through.

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