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I really don't think anyone is suggesting a "one road model". It's a road model. And a good one. Arguably a necessary one.

"Green technology has incredible potential. My firm alone has invested in 45 innovative ventures that can provide a greener future. Here are three examples:
Ausra, Inc., builds advanced solar-thermal technology that produces utility-scale electricity. We found this tiny start-up in Australia and helped it move to Palo Alto, Calif. And we helped hire additional world-class engineers and managers. Ausra now has a long-term contract with Pacific Gas & Electric to supply almost 200 megawatts of power. Its costs are the cheapest of any utility-scale solar technology, and with further advances we believe it will compete with coal-fired plants. Over several years Ausra plans to build two gigawatts of capacity, generating 4,000 construction jobs, 1,000 operational jobs and clean power for more than 300,000 American homes, while avoiding 2.5 million tons of emissions annually.
The second example involves a unified, national smart grid. Silver Spring Networks in Redwood City, Calif., works with utilities to install digital networks that allow consumers and utilities to control electricity usage, reducing waste—and emissions—while saving money. In just two years Silver Spring has networked more than 300,000 customers and signed contracts to network 10 million homes. The potential savings are 100 million tons of CO2 and $16 billion. California’s experience suggests that a nationwide smart grid could create 500,000 construction jobs and 280,000 permanent jobs.
The third example is an advanced battery venture still in “stealth mode.” The company’s breakthrough creates stable, durable lithium-ion batteries with greater storage capacity. The result will be electric vehicles that can travel up to three times as far—more than 100 miles—before recharging. Again, we found this team outside the U.S., but we persuaded them to build manufacturing plants that will create thousands of jobs in the Midwest. The company will ship batteries at the end of this year. This technology could revitalize our automotive industry and preserve and create many jobs."

You're not making it up, Nick SSH. The snopes article describes the entire experiment and it's results. Unfortunately it seems the experiments were too small of a sampling frequency to have any definitive results. But apparently something happens at the moment of death that can be measured in loss of weight. But it appears inconsistent.
It's interesting but also a little like angels dancing on the head of a pin. I suppose for the purely empirically minded having some kind of measurable proof of the existence of the soul would be pretty important.
It's a good question though: Does electricity have mass? I would imagine it has some mass. Maybe Richard Feynman's writings on QED would have some insight into this.



Ruth, as my mom has been pointing out, she's lived through several recessions already, this one isn't much different. But my mother lives always as if she is in a recession. That woman can make a nickel scream. I aspire, I tell you.

However, just because physicists learned about the quantum nature of the sub atomic universe via experimentation and mathematics, it doesn't change the essential information such as the finding that, while we experience matter as solid, it is actually made up of very little actual "matter", but is instead comprised mostly of energy fields. Or the finding that matter and energy are ultimately interchangeable, given the right circumstances (E = mc2). Or the finding by Schrodinger that you cannot observe something without effecting it. Or the finding that what we call "matter" seems to be actually a set of relationships.
These findings are mathematical, certainly. However, for some of us, they are also intuitive. The quantum nature of the universe doesn't belong only to the realm of mathematics. As the chaos theory and fractals show us, mathematical patterns can describe extreme complexities which seem at first random and chaotic. But those very same patterns shape our selves, our minds. We are part of that mathematical universe, at one with it. But mathematics is not the only way to understand it.
