SRC Moderator’s Comments (group member since Aug 19, 2016)

SRC Moderator’s comments from the The Seasonal Reading Challenge group.

TASK REQUIREMENTS

1. To claim a task in Completed Tasks, the book you use MUST exist on Goodreads.

--A) Ask a librarian to add a book or edition for you if your book does not yet exist in the Goodreads database.

--B) If information in a Goodreads record is incorrect or incomplete, you may ask a Goodreads librarian to update the record if possible. Information required for a task, such as missing print edition page numbers, should be corrected before you post.

2. If you aren't sure if a book will fit a task, please ask about the suitability of the book in the appropriate Task Help thread.

3. To determine if a book fits a task, moderators will rely on Goodreads’ main book page for information such as title, author name(s), Goodreads author status, page number, ratings, setting, etc.

--A) The moderators will make their decisions based on the information in the book link you provide. Therefore, make sure that you provide a link to the exact edition of the book the qualifies for the task and fits all SRC requirements.

--B) If the information is missing from the Goodreads record, a link to verifying information may be included in your post. Outside data cannot be used to contradict data existing on Goodreads.

4. Title requirements

--A) For tasks that require a word in a title, only the title and the subtitle may be used.

--B) Series titles will NOT apply ex. "a novel of Series name", "A Series name book", "Book # of Series name", etc.. Task creators may allow series titles if explicitly included in the task description.

5. Cover requirements

--A) For tasks that require a specific image or color on their cover, the player must link the book edition that has the required element.

6. Shelf or list requirements

--A)For tasks that require reading a book from a Goodreads listopia list or shelf, the book must appear on the list or shelf when you access it.

--B The player may not add books to the list to be used for that task.

7. Genre requirements

--A) For tasks that require books within specified genres the main book page's front page genre list will be used to determine suitability.

--B) Unless explicitly limited by the task creator, reasonable variations of genres will be accepted: ex. genre- mythology: myths, myths-and-legends, mythological, etc. would be accepted genre variations.

--C) The genre must appear on the list when you access it and the player may not shelve a book as a genre in order to use the book for that task.

--D) The player may request that the moderator or task creator note a listed genre when accessed in case the genre list has changed by the time it is posted as part of a completed task.

8. Author requirements

--A) For tasks that require information about an author, such as author's birthday or author's national origin, the Goodreads record will be used to determine fit.

----1. If the information is missing from the Goodreads record, a link to verifying information may be included in your post. Outside data cannot be used to contradict data existing on Goodreads.

--B) Only authors that are identified as authors (or a default blank in the author role field), co-authors, or contributors may be used for tasks involving author information.

--C)Other roles or functions such as editor, illustrator, artist, translator, introduction, designed by, foreward, preface, assistant or afterword may not be used for author-sourced tasks. Institutional authors and publishers, such as Scientific American and Time-Life Books, may not be used for tasks involving author information.

--D) Ask about other roles identified in a Goodreads record in the season's General Questions help thread.

9. If a task allows a one book option where a single book must meet two different option requirements, the same element (word, object, etc) cannot be used to fulfill both options.

--A) Ex. a specific title word required for an option and a title word from song lyrics for another option = the same single word cannot be used to fulfill both options.

10. More specific SRC practices and conventions are explained in the Default Rules and FAQs in the Rules folder.

Post any general questions here

20.9 Moderator's Pet: Trishhartuk's Task - Crater Lake

Being a Brit, I haven’t been to that many of the US National Parks. However, one I have visited is Crater Lake (https://www.nps.gov/crla/index.htm), the only National Park in Oregon. It has been known to the Native Americans for thousands of years, and was considered a sacred site, but wasn’t “discovered” by the European settlers until 1853. It was designated as a National Park on 22 May 1902, and was only the fifth National Park to be established. I first visited in 1996 and have been back twice since, as it’s one of my favourite places on Earth. This task celebrates this wonderful place.

Choose one option and read a book for that option. As Crater Lake is the only National Park in Oregon, all books must be by a single author (no writing teams using a single name!).
Required: State the option chosen

Option 1- Crater Lake is in the caldera of a volcano called Mount Mazama. Despite having not erupted for 7,700 years, it is still considered active by the US Geological Survey. Read a book where the author’s first and last initials can be found in MOUNT MAZAMA. Letters may be used as often as they appear.

Option 2- It is the deepest lake in the US, at 1,943 feet. There is one trail which gets you down to water level, and is classed as “strenuous”: the trail is only 1.1 miles long, but it drops 700 feet. Getting down is fine. Getting back up however… It’s worth it, though. The view at lake level is superb, and you can swim (if you’re brave enough) or take a boat trip. Read a book with large, natural body of water (lake, river or sea/ocean) on the cover. Man made places such as swimming pools, or just water with no other features to indicate whether it's natural or not, are not acceptable.
Required: post the cover.
These work:
These do not:

Option 3- If taking it easy, and driving round the caldera enjoying the view is more your thing, you can follow the Rim Drive, with its thirteen designated viewpoints. It’s a stunning trip. However, because of its altitude (6,500-7,900ft), and average snowfall of 41ft a year, it is only open from May to October. Read a book first published between May and October (inclusive) of any year from 1996-onwards.

Option 4- Two main islands break the surface of the lake: Wizard Island, which you can visit by boat; and the Phantom Ship, which you can only look at. Read a book with the MPG of Fantasy, Gothic or Ghosts (stand-alone or embedded).

20.8 Nickels and Dimes: MEGSCL's Task - 2025 Goals

My task is based on my two personal reading goals for this year.
Required: State the option chosen

Option 1- Read more new releases and ARCs. For this task read any book first published in March 2025 or later.

Option 2- Read award shortlists. Read a book that has been longlisted, shortlisted, or won any of these prizes in any year.
Required: The award must be listed on the GR book page

Stella Prize
Women's Prize for Fiction
Miles Franklin
Booker Prize

25.5 - Fly's Task - Celebrating Summertime
This is a two book task. Choose two different months and read a book for one option each.
State the options
One graphic novel may be read for this task.

June
Option 1 -June is the most popular month for weddings!
Read a book where a wedding or a wedding anniversary is essential to the story.
Required: If not evident from the Goodreads main page, provide a reference
or
Read a book that has a wedding dress, a wedding cake, Champagne glass(es) or wedding ring on the cover.
Required: Post the cover.
Option 2- In the northern hemisphere, June contains the longest day of the year :)
For this task choose one of the longest books on your TBR pile. Go to 'My Books,' choose the shelf 'Want to read,' set it to show 20 books per page, sort by number of pages in descending order, and choose a book from the first page.
or
If you don't have a 'Want to read' shelf, you can read any book that exceeds 600 pages.

July
Option 1 - July 4th is American Independence Day.
Read a book with a cover containing all the colors red, white, and blue according to Tineye. Any percentage is okay as long as all three colors are present.
If you'd rather celebrate Bastille day, July 14th, then you can find a cover with blue, white and red ;)
Required Post the cover.
Option 2 - July starts the dog days of summer. Celebrate by reading a book with a domestic dog on the cover!
Required Post the cover.

August
Option 1 - August is back-to-school time!
Read a book whose main character is either a teacher or a student.
Required:If it isn't evident from the Goodreads main page, provide a reference.
Option 2 - August has a lot of food holidays! I'm going to choose three of my favorites: International Beer Day, National S'mores Day, and National Waffle Day.
Read a book by an author whose initials (first and last) are in one of the following words: BEER or SMORES or WAFFLE.
Letters can be used only as many times as they appear. Books written by multiple authors can be used as long as ALL authors fit the task individually.

For example, The Guernsey Literary and Potato Peel Pie Society would NOT work, because although author Mary Ann Shaffer has initials MS in SMORES, the second author Annie Barrows' initials AB are not found in any of the three words. However, The Bletchley Riddle would work because both authors Ruta Sepetys (RS) and Steve Sheinkin (SS) have initials in SMORES, and so individually meet the requirements, and Pour l’intersectionnalité would work because author Sarah Mazouz has initials SM in SMORES, and Eléonore Lépinard has initials EL in WAFFLE.

25.4 - Bookworm526's task: Our National Parks

We have recently begun a quest to visit all of the US National Parks. This task is based around the parks we have been to and the parks that are at the top of our list to get to next.

This is a two book task, pick an option from book 1 and an option from book 2
Required: State the options.

Book 1 - So far we have visited Congaree, Denali, Gateway Arch, Glacier Bay, and Mammoth Cave. Choose one book from the options below to celebrate these parks.

Option A - Two of the parks we have visited are in Alaska. Read a book set at least 50% in Alaska.
Required: Provide reference if setting is not evident from GR main page.

Option B - The national park we have visited most often, because it is the closest to home, is Congaree. Read a book with a word of at least four letters in the title (subtitles excluded) that can be made from the phrase CONGAREE SWAMP.
Letters may only be used as often as they appear.
Required: State the word.

Option C - We visited Gateway Arch and Mammoth Cave on a summer road trip. Read a book that meets the SRC requirements from the first 25 pages of this list:
Road Trip
Required: state the page

Book 2 - We have two trips planned to visit new-to-us National Parks this year. We are going to New River Gorge and US Virgin Islands National Parks. Choose one book from the options below to celebrate these upcoming trips.

Option A - New River Gorge is one of the newest US national parks. To celebrate this trip, read a debut work by an author who is new to you.
Required: State that the author is new to you.

Option B - We are going to US Virgin Islands National Park during a holiday cruise. For this option, read a book that is set at least 50% in a location found on this list https://www.cia.gov/the-world-factboo... OR on a cruise ship.
Required: State the setting. Provide a reference if the setting is not evident from the goodreads main page.

25.3 - Shemac's task: Celebrating the end of WW2

The 80th anniversary of VJ Day (Victory over Japan Day) will be commemorated on August 15, 2025, marking the end of World War II. It will be a time to honour those who served and to remember the sacrifices made by everyone involved.

This is a two book task. Choose two different options and read one book for each. The combined page count must be 500 or more pages.
Required: state the options

Option 1 - Read a book that is set (at least 50%) in any combination of Japan and/or of the territories in Asia that Japan invaded between 1st September 1939 and 15th August 1945.
Guam, Wake Island, Hong Kong, Philippines, the Dutch East Indies (Indonesia), Malaya, Singapore, Burma, Thailand, Indochina, Nauru, Kiribati, New Guinea and India
Required: State the setting and provide a reference if not evident from the goodreads main page.

Option 2 - Read a book that has MPG World War II

Option 3 - The rationing of essential food and commodities began in the UK with petrol on 22nd September, 1939. It finally ended with the announcement on 23rd June, 1958 that restrictions on coal would be abolished.
Read a book that was first published between these dates (inclusive)

Option 4 - Read a book that has any part set during World War II that has been made into a feature film or TV series. Verify the movie/series is listed here https://www.imdb.com/?ref_=nv_home by entering in the title you chose.
Required: provide IMBD link to film/series

IT'S A FACT TICKETS- Final
If the totals here don't match your records, first check the folder Completed Tasks with ? or Problems to see if there's a message there about your post(s). If that doesn't resolve the issue, please post a message there and I'll investigate. Thanks!

Lisa MD- 19
Apple- 15
Kathy P- 15
Delicious Dee- 9
Heather (Gibby)- 8
Kathy KS- 8
MEGSCL- 7
JUKKA- 7
JenJ IA- 7
ROBIN P- 6
EMurphy- 6
Tammy AZ- 6
KSMARY- 6
Julia103- 5
Kelly L- 5
Angela IL 5
FLY- 4
Erica H- 4
August- 4
Joanne MI- 4
Cindie- 3
Mai- 3
Kai- 2
JAYNE- 2
Slideshell- 2
Christine V- 2
ED- 2
Kristen IA 2
Jager- 2
Molly- 2
Lora- 1
Jecca- 1
Val Tx- 1
trishhartuk- 1
Deedee- 1
Cindy F- 1
Michelle in Alaska- 1
Rochelle- 1
JENNY H- 1
katy- 1

GOLDEN OLDIES TICKETS- FINAL

If the totals here don't match your records, first check the folder Completed Tasks with ? or Problems to see if there's a message there about your post(s). If that doesn't resolve the issue, please post a message there and I'll investigate. Thanks!

FLY- 10
Lora- 8
Julia103- 7
Kai- 7
Heather (Gibby)- 7
Kathy KS- 4
ROBIN P- 2
Erica H- 2
Apple- 2
EMurphy- 2
August- 1
Jecca- 1
Joanne MI- 1
MEGSCL- 1
JAYNE- 1
Slideshell- 1
Val Tx- 1
Delicious Dee- 1
Hannelore- 1
trishhartuk- 1
Brigia- 1
Deedee- 1

BIG BOOK TICKETS- Final


If the totals here don't match your records, first check the folder Completed Tasks with ? or Problems to see if there's a message there about your post(s). If that doesn't resolve the issue, please post a message there and I'll investigate. Thanks!

FLY- 10
August- 6
Jecca- 6
Joanne MI- 6
MEGSCL- 6
Nick KY- 6
JAYNE- 5
JUKKA- 5
Elizabeth P- 4
Slideshell- 4
Cindy F- 3
Julia103- 3
Kai- 3
Lora- 3
Masoodah- 3
red sycamore- 3
ROBIN P- 3
Christine V- 2
ED- 2
Erica H- 2
Michelle in Alaska- 2
Rochelle- 2
Tammy AZ- 2
Val Tx- 2
Apple- 1
Delicious Dee- 1
EMurphy- 1
Hannelore- 1
Heather (Gibby)- 1
Kathy P- 1
Kelly L- 1
Krista KY- 1
Kristen IA 1
trishhartuk- 1

ALPHA READERBOARD-Final

If the totals here don't match your records, first check the folder Completed Tasks with ? or Problems to see if there's a message there about your post(s). If that doesn't resolve the issue, please post a message there and I'll investigate. Thanks!

Amy B- 605
Amy FL- 975
Ana- 50
Angela IL 455
Ann A- 250
Apple- 755
ASH- 975
August- 330
babbling c- 85
Bookwrm526- 975
Brigia- 75
Cat- 975
CathyG- 690
Chandni- 425
Christine V- 215
Cindie- 195
Cindy F- 295
Coffeegirl- 585
Deborah- 430
Deedee- 290
Delicious Dee- 975
ED- 60
Elizabeth P- 610
EMurphy- 500
Erica H- 470
FLY- 975
Gangee- 5
Gita- 90
Hannelore- 280
Heather (Gibby)- 575
Jager- 210
Janice CA- 45
Jasmiina F- 140
Jayme(theghostreader)- 65
JAYNE- 155
Jecca- 975
JEN B- 510
JenJ IA- 570
JennRenee- 975
JENNY H- 85
Jessica S- 840
Joanne MI- 260
JUKKA- 495
Julia103- 945
Kai- 655
Karen Michele- 295
Kathy KS- 655
Kathy P- 235
Katrisa- 975
katy- 50
Kelly L- 415
Kim O- 20
KmarieD- 925
Krista KY- 435
Kristen IA 530
Kristina Simon- 400
KSMARY- 760
Line- 10
Lisa MD- 975
List_Addict- 130
Lois- 850
Lora- 845
Mabeelle- 470
Mai- 495
Marty- 115
Masoodah- 375
Mazza1- 975
Mcquaid- 405
MEGSCL- 335
Michelle in Alaska- 160
Molly- 40
Nick KY- 975
PAULA S- 130
Rebecca NJ 50
red sycamore- 245
Rihiannon- 80
ROBIN P- 975
Rochelle- 140
Rockynook- 640
Roxana- 55
SHAUNA W- 35
Shelby- 335
SHEMAC- 800
Slideshell- 975
Stephanie127 45
Sue T 120
Susan A- 975
Tammy AZ- 525
TessaVanessa- 975
Theresa - 220
Tien- 915
trishhartuk- 575
Val Tx- 80
XBM- 415

VERIFYING MINIMUM PAGE COUNTS FOR BOOKS

1. Each book must have at least 100 pages.

2. Some tasks may require a higher page count at the creator's discretion.

3. Page counts will be determined by the book link used in the Completed Task post.

--A) You may choose to link any English language edition that fulfills the page count requirements for the task. You do not necessarily have to link the edition you read.

--B) If you read a book in another language, you may opt to use that book link for your task.

--C) If you have any questions about which edition should be used to establish page count please ask for a ruling by a moderator in the season's General Questions Help Thread

Exceptions:

--A) You cannot use the book link for a Large Print edition.

--B) Ebooks without a page count or audiobooks without a print or digital edition MUST get the book pre-approved by a moderator in the topic "eBook verification-no print edition" in General Help

----1. These books may not be used for tasks with a minimum page count requirement other than the general 100 page SRC requirement.

There are just a few days left in the Spring 2025 Challenge, so there are some things you need to do NOW!


1. Post any tasks that you have already completed NOW. If your tasks are not posted completely and correctly by midnight Eastern time on May 31st, you don’t get credit for them, no matter why they didn’t get posted.

If you post tasks at the last minute, problems may not be identified in time for you to deal with them and get credit for the task. Sometimes the problem is that you forgot to include required information, but if you don’t post until the last day, there may not be time for me to identify the problem and for you to correct it before midnight.

To get credit for a task, it must be posted with all necessary requirements in the post and the books must fit the task. If you have any doubts about a book that you’re planning to read at the last minute, you should get it approved in the help thread (and include that information in your post) to avoid any last minute disappointments.

If you're claiming a children's book, I suggest including the AR Bookfinder information, even if you don't notice the genre childrens on the main page. That may avoid problems.

2. From here on out, you should post tasks as you finish them, rather than holding them to post a bunch at a time. And, please, before you post, read the task requirements. If something says REQUIRED, you must include it. Read through the task requirements one last time before you post, to make sure that your book actually works for the task and that you’ve included everything. And, for a list task, check again to make sure the book is actually on the page of the list that you're saying - if you found it on the list 2 months ago, it may well have moved.

Just do your posting as you read, and avoid any unnecessary problems.
Many posts at the end of the challenge make your moderators cranky. If you don't want to get walloped with a Stephen King hardback, don't make the moderators cranky.

2. If you’re planning on reading any books that only exist in ebook form, make sure that they’ve been approved for length. Check the spreadsheet linked in post 1 of the ebook verification thread first, and if your book hasn’t already been approved, post in the approval thread NOW, so that there will be time to do the research and give you approval.

Remember that the spreadsheet line or post # MUST be listed in your completed task post for any book that only exists in ebook form, and ebook only formats may not be used for tasks that require a specific number of pages or page limit.

3. Check your Readerboard totals for points, Golden Oldies, It's A Fact, and Big Books NOW. If they don’t agree with your records, first make sure that you check the post through which the Readerboards have been updated. Then check your maths, check to see if you have messages in the ?/problem thread, check to make sure that you’ve actually posted the tasks that you think you have – GR has been known to eat messages! If checking all of those things doesn’t resolve the discrepancy, post in the ?/problem thread right away, giving as much info as possible so that I can try to resolve it.

If a problem was noted with one of your posts, be sure that you reposted the task in the regular posting thread - an edit to the old post, or a note in the ?/problems thread amending the post is not sufficient.

Let's try to have a smooth and problem-free end to the Spring Challenge.

Sorry, I fixed it here in the help thread when I saw it but forgot to go to the task thread. Fixed now.

Fiction- Psychological Thriller - You Killed Me First
Fiction - Modern Classics - The Poisonwood Bible
Non-Fiction- Linguistics - Because Internet: Understanding the New Rules of Language

and
The Gutenberg Classic- The Adventures of Sally

This is the discussion thread for the Summer 2025 Group Read The Adventures of Sally in the category Gutenberg Classics. Please post your comments here. This thread is not restricted to those choosing this book for task 20.10, feel free to join in the discussion. Warning- spoilers ahead!

The requirement for task 20.10: You must participate in the book's discussion thread below with at least one post about the contents of the book or your reaction to the book after you have read the book.

16 MAY 5/10/15/30 Point Tasks posted for Summer challenge (as available)
31 MAY 11:59PM EST = Spring Challenge Ends

1 JUNE 12:01am EST = Summer 2025 Challenge starts
1 JUNE = 20/25 Point Task Creators identified
2 – 7 JUNE = 20/25 Point Tasks posted when available
12 JUNE = All Tasks proofread and FINAL or *5 days after the last task is posted.

15 JUNE- 5 JULY= 50 Point Task Idea Submission Thread Open
6 JULY- 12 JULY= 50 Point Task Idea Poll
13 JULY- 15 JULY= 50 Point Task Idea Poll Runoff if needed
15 JULY= Logo Contest for Next Challenge begins

15 JULY 11:59PM EST = Midpoint Cutoff
16 – 18 JULY= 50.1 Midpoint Task posted
18 – 30 JULY = Group Reads Books nominated for next challenge

1 – 14 AUG= Group Reads polls for next challenge
1 – 14 AUG= Task Ideas brainstorming for next challenge
16 AUG 11:59PM EST = Logo Contest Cutoff
16 AUG 11:59PM EST = Cutoff for 30 Point Early Finishers
17 – 31 AUG = Logo poll for next challenge
17 AUG = 30 Point Task Creators Identified
17 AUG = start 5/10/15/30 Point Tasks posted for Fallchallenge (as available)

31 AUG Midnight EST - Summer challenge ends.

30. 9 Nick KY’s Task: Uluru – National Parks of Australia.

This is S’s suggestion for a task from the task suggestion thread:
Uluru-Kata Tjuta National Park, Australia

One of the natural wonders of the world, Uluru is a massive dome of red sandstone that seems to rise directly from the desert landscape. Uluru is a deeply spiritual site for the Anangu people. The caves here are filled with remarkable rock art in vivid shades of red, yellow, and brown that date back at least 10,000 years.

This is a two book task. Choose two different options and read one book for each option.
REQUIRED:State the Options.

Opt. 1. Read a book with at least 3 U's in the title/subtitle.

Opt. 2. Read a book with a word of at least four letters in the title/subtitle/author’s name from the phrase ULURU KATA TJUTA NICK KY. Letters may be used only as often as they appear in the target phrase.
Required: State the word

Opt. 3. Uluru is an outcrop – a geological term meaning the part of a rock that juts out of the surface of the earth. Read a book from the following Geology listopia: Best Geology Books
Required: State the page

Opt. 4. Read a book that takes place at least 50% in Australia or is by an author born in or currently living in Australia.
Required: If the setting or the author birth place is not evident from Goodreads, provide a reference.

30.10 Amy FL’s task: Return of a Favorite

I’m a mystery reader who loves a good series. This summer I’m looking forward to reading the newest entry in one of my absolute favorites. Let’s pay tribute to that series.

This is a two book task. Choose two different options and read one book for each option.
Required: State the option

I was hooked on The Prey series by John Sandford from the very first book, Rules of Prey. The main character, Lucas Davenport, is a police officer who is tough, brilliant and surrounded by some memorable characters.

Option 1: The Titles
The newest entry is #35 in the main series. There are two spinoff series, but for this task we will focus on the Lucas Davenport books which all have “Prey” in the title. Read a book with one of these words from the series in the title (subtitle excluded). Words must be exact. No variations.
Rules, Shadow, Eyes, Silent, Winter, Night, Mind, Sudden, Secret, Certain, Easy, Chosen, Mortal, Naked, Hidden, Broken, Invisible, Phantom, Wicked, Storm, Buried, Stolen, Silken, Field, Gathering, Extreme, Golden, Twisted, Neon, Masked, Ocean, Righteous, Judgment, Toxic, Lethal

Option 2: The Setting
This series takes place in Minnesota so for this task, read a book set at least 75% in Minnesota.
Required: If the setting is not obvious from the Goodreads Main Page, provide a reference.

Option 3: The Author
John Sandford is a pseudonym for the author who was born John Roswell Camp. Read a book written using a pseudonym. The pseudonym must be a single author, so no writing teams. J. D. Robb (pseudonym for Nora Roberts) works; Nicci French (pseudonym for Nicci Gerrard and Sean French) does not.
Required: If the pseudonym is not listed on on the Goodreads author page, provide a reference.

Option 4: The Characters
Read a book by an author who shares a first or last name with one of the recurring characters in the Prey series. The name must match exactly but can appear in any position.
Lucas Davenport, Jennifer Carey, Weather Karkinnen, Virgil Flowers, Del Capslock, Harrison Sloan, Letty Davenport, Rose Marie Roux (Rose or Marie work), Marcy Sherrill, Elle Kruger
Required: State the character’s name

We are looking into changing a few things in in the default rules regarding page numbers.

After watching the discussion in regards to page number accuracy and having the correct editions, this is what the mods have come with up.

1) Removing the requirement for verification of length on e-books that do not have a physical copy. If the page number is listed on the Goodreads main page for the e-book and it satisfies the minimum page count for books.

If the e-book has no physical copy and does not list the page number, it will still need to be verified for length.

We would like to implement this change due the fact that page numbers for e-books seem to becoming more accurate.



2) For Page number tasks. We want to implement using a standard for the page count instead of the version we read. Since it is often difficult to know the version you getting or the page count is listed wrong, we will now use:

The paperback with the highest rating. We thing using the paperback in this situation is better since more books have paperback than MMPB. If there is no paperback, then we will use the hardcover.

E-books with no physical copy will still be excluded from page number tasks.

Before we make the changes permanent, we wanted to get the general consensus and to give a heads up.

.