MeerderWörter’s Comments (group member since Jan 08, 2016)

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James wrote: "MeerderWörter wrote: "Can't they read a dictionary? Haven't they heard Emma's speech (which went kinda viral), in which she said exactly that this is not what feminism is about?
I'm at a loss for w..."

James, I didn't either. I'm still shook. I really hate it when I hear people saying Emma is too privileged to say something: Yes, she is privileged, she said so in the speech herself, but why on earth should that mean that she can't promote gender equality? That's so illogical.
I'm not sure if the negative aspect will vanish either. I hope so.
The bad thing is, we don't have a Gloria Steinem, who seems to be quite intersectional, but we only have Alice Schwarzer, and I haven't really read much about her, but she seems to be this anti-man, 68's feminist (who is also problematic with her view about islam) who I really don't identify with.
My mom compared her with Gloria Steinem, and to be honest, I felt ashamed that this comparison was even made!
I don't know much about Alice Schwarzer, but it seemed so illogical.

I need to immerse myself more within feminism in order to better understand it! If only I had the time!

xoxy

James wrote:"Thats why it can lead to a negative viewpoint of feminism in general"

I had a discussion with a lad and the shocking truth I discovered was that one of the political parties of Austria, the Greens, are exactly representing what I definitely consider not to be feminist:
abortion(so you could abort males)
males are to blame for everything
oh, and man-hating in general!

He's really into politics(member of the Communist Party) and I was shocked, still am, because I think:

If that's how feminism is portrayed in the public, how can I (or we in general) make a point about feminism being good for everyone. For EVERY HUMAN!
I understand why they are turned off, I am turned off by that too!

It's insensitive, it's discriminating, I feel ashamed when I say I'm a feminist and people link me with THIS!

Can't they read a dictionary? Haven't they heard Emma's speech (which went kinda viral), in which she said exactly that this is not what feminism is about?
I'm at a loss for words right now!

Thanks Emma for announcing it now - still enough time to order/borrow it and no stress because of that.

Let's see how open-minded the book is. I fear it is heteronormative, but let's see!

As fas as I have seen, this read is going to be a controversial one. Let's see nonetheless. Although I do think about sitting this one out!

MeerderWörter
xoxy

James wrote: "Kevin wrote: "Each person has different mindset.."

Well, thats kind of the problem i think.

If you were to start googling feminism you will find all sorts of blogs, websites, etc dedicated to fe..."

James, now this is something that feminism really has to worry about. In feminism it is possible to go from the one extreme to the other extreme.

Many who consider themselves feminists, aren't feminists for me, most important example being the connection with man-hating.

Ross wrote: "Why the rush for the next books folks. Busy lady puts a lot of thought -and feeling- into selection of these diverse works. I personally like the consistent theme of progress being made, even if we..."

Sure Ross, but I've been reading it about 4 weeks ago and I need new reading material. But you're right, our Boss Lady is really putting a lot of thought - and feeling - into choosing the books.

Ross wrote: "Sorry, should have read the whole thread before commenting caught up un the interesting topic, my bad :)"

I'd love to see Bunny joining us here - since she's the expert, we could actually get much more out of it than just us talking about it.

I better check that topic out - Bunny is around here since the beginning, they're really great.

The more I think about Mom&Me&Mom the more I realise I need to read it again. I missed so much reading it the first time, I was just rushing through it!

Definitely worth a reread:)

Ross wrote: "Intresting subject. I am fascinated by the various approches to sexuality now. I have a question as how these variations relate to those in gender typing; there are currently 58 different classific..."

Ross, your second paragraph warms my heart:) No, for sure, we are all different but equal in value.

I don't know if sexual orientation and gender are linked, an interesting question tho.

Robert wrote: "To be 100% honest...short answer...It was the first group I noticed when I started browsing GR Groups. That said though, I've always desired equality among gender, race, religion or whatever, I've ..."

Robert, don't mind the long answer. It's always a pleasure for me to read people's comments, may they be short or long.

The longer you're here, the more you will learn. And no, I also had wrong assumptions about feminism in the first place, you're not alone.

James wrote: "So like the title says, what if anything have you learned about yourself while being a part of this book club? Do you still feel that you are searching for your own identity when it pertains to gen..."

James, I congratulate you on your development. It's heartwarming to read such a comment.
Emma sure does ignite some change, you're the best example.
I hope there are many more who'll find their place in this movement of ours.

Monical wrote: "I stand corrected, MeerderWorter , apologies, can't do umlaut, and Stefania."

Apology taken.

Don't worry about the Umlaut, many call me Meerder here, I like that.

Woah, folks, this blew up here!

Interesting discussion, I must second Ross here because OSS is available for everyone who has internet and can speak English. Because of that, many Westerners are found here (no surprise), but we also have members from other parts of the world too, which I greatly appreciate.

Meelie wrote: "Firstly, hello, Eric!

Secondly - why should it be of concern?? This is meant to be a safe place for all to discuss the books read, there shouldn't be reason for anyone's sex/gender to be an issue..."
Thanks Meelie for once again stating that gender and age, among other boxes, aren't an obstacle here, they're here to enrich conversation.

Agnes wrote: "so
A hermaphrodite is an organism that has both male and female reproductive organs....Until the mid-20th century, "hermaphrodite" was used synonymously with "intersex"...Medical terminology has s..."

You nailed it Agnes! Hermaphrodite is confusing on the one hand, and hurting on the other hand, that's why it's not used anymore:=) Really glad about that.

Marta, your header is really simple, I like that. Congrats on being chosen!

Emily wrote: "Christopher wrote: "I found "Mom & Me and Mom" really hard to read but I'm glad that I did. Some of the stories earlier on where she's going from one sickeningly dangerous situation to another, and..."

I think she might have dissociated from these events in her life. That's why they're so "clinical."

Laure, that is something we both completely agree on.

I haven't thought of anything yet. I was hoping people's brains would kick in and we had some sort of brainstorming.

Ideas, folks, are greatly appreciated!

Michael wrote: "Indigo wrote: "He's allosexual and had wanted to court me from the get-go but was wonderful about waiting since I told him how things worked for me, and was also going to be fine if it turned out t..."

Why do you think that you can't have a relationship with her? A relationship is more than just - let's face it - sex and romance. And demisexual and -romantic doesn't mean she's not interested in either, it just needs time!

Ana wrote: "See, in my experience growing up, blame was (wrongly!) placed not much on the way a woman is dressed but rather on whether she was alone when the harassment / abuse / rape took place. Ever since I ..."

Interesting, Ana! Being alone doesn't seem to be that much of a controversy here in Austria, although I hear both.
On the other hand, I don't know anybody who has been sexually harassed that I know. In a small village it's just that: You're alone at night, everybody else is in their houses.

A slight distrust in doctors? Sorry, but yes.