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message 1: by Scott (new)

Scott Don't leave us hanging, 'dear.' 😆


message 2: by Marquise (new)

Marquise ... she claimed I was calling her "dear" out of condescension and superiority (!). It was so out of the blue and hurtful that the friendship was never the same again. I always wondered why, was it my posh accent? Her different culture? Just an excuse? I don't know.

It seems like I've done it again, though. Bothered someone by calling them "doll," something I only call my 3 best friends and people I truly like (so if I've called you "doll" here on GR, yes, that means you're one of my favourites. :P). And am left again at the same point as years ago.

Anyway, if you're one of those who dislikes terms of endearment and affectionate nicknames for whatever reason, please let me know right now. No judgment. I'd rather know than step on your toes.


message 3: by Lady MacDeath (new)

Lady MacDeath This is exactly how I was raised with my family. Everyone is darling, or babe or hon etc. I also know people who hate this, but it’s just natural for me to use these terms of endearment in my vocabulary 🖤


message 4: by Marquise (new)

Marquise Scott wrote: "Don't leave us hanging, 'dear.' 😆"

Of course, sugar! 😆 You posted as I was typing, slooowly...


message 5: by Marquise (new)

Marquise Lady MacDeath wrote: "This is exactly how I was raised with my family. Everyone is darling, or babe or hon etc. I also know people who hate this, but it’s just natural for me to use these terms of endearment in my vocab..."

Yeah, my mum was always after me for not telling people some compliments or showing I liked them as a child. She said it was rude, so for me it was just part of how we talk.


message 6: by Thibault (new)

Thibault Busschots I have no idea what you’re talking about, Beautiful Precious Queen Marquise :)


message 7: by Marquise (new)

Marquise Oh, drat, just found out from a trusted source that in some segments of the US, "doll" is slang for prostitute/escort.

Wat???!!!

i SWEAR ON MY HONOUR THAT I DIDN'T MEAN TO CALL YOU THAT.

Damn... that's bad, really bad. I should stay in my Shire, I'll be the worst American ever. :'(


message 8: by Scott (new)

Scott Marquise wrote: "Scott wrote: "Don't leave us hanging, 'dear.' 😆"

Of course, sugar! 😆 You posted as I was typing, slooowly..."


Ok, then 'doll.' 😉


message 9: by Marquise (new)

Marquise Thibault wrote: "I have no idea what you’re talking about, Beautiful Precious Queen Marquise :)"

So you're fine with me calling you Thibu? <3


message 10: by Michelle (new)

Michelle As an American, I had no idea that doll could possibly be slang for a prostitute/escort...learn something new everyday!


message 11: by Marquise (new)

Marquise Scott wrote: "Ok, then 'doll.' 😉"

I've called your lady that, even though she likely can be my mother. Apologies! <3


message 12: by Thibault (new)

Thibault Busschots Marquise wrote: "Thibault wrote: "I have no idea what you’re talking about, Beautiful Precious Queen Marquise :)"

So you're fine with me calling you Thibu? <3"


Yeah, sure. I don't mind being part of your Funky Bunch, Marky Marquise :)


message 13: by Marquise (last edited 17 hours, 20 min ago) (new)

Marquise Michelle wrote: "As an American, I had no idea that doll could possibly be slang for a prostitute/escort...learn something new everyday!"

It must be very, very niche, uh? Maybe only in some state or some cities.

Some slang is well known, like the C-word in AU/UK vs America, but others are too niche and we can't possibly know every single slang usage... what with English being so widespread, surely there's slang we don't know and inadvertently offend folks somewhere.

Culture is such a mess, a good one, but a mess...


message 14: by Marquise (new)

Marquise Thibault wrote: "Yeah, sure. I don't mind being part of your Funky Bunch, Marky Marquise :)"

Thank you! <3


message 15: by Leah (new)

Leah T I think it's really sweet lol


message 16: by ~*~Princess Nya Vasiliev~*~ (last edited 16 hours, 54 min ago) (new)

 ~*~Princess Nya Vasiliev~*~ We live in a time where everyone is truly offended by VERY trivial things.. It's what I call "selective outrage" which makes no sense to me. Things that typically aren't offensive or are throwaways, becomes a major offense, but things that are truly deserving of that outrage or anger, things that really matter; they remain silent on or see no issues with it.. Crazy right?? ..

So I say don't change your light or how you speak, in order to appease the few that don't matter.. Cause those that do matter wouldn't take offense in something that you're clearly not being offensive about..

FYI, I LOVE endearments being thrown my way..


message 17: by Juho (new)

Juho Pohjalainen Words are just words, their meanings and purposes drift in time and vary according to who's saying what to whom. It's probably best to always err on the side of caution and assume the other person isn't trying to insult you even if the words could indicate such, because they usually aren't. But likewise, it's always good to inform them if there are meanings they might convey by accident.

When it comes from you, I know it always comes from a good place. So call me whatever.


message 18: by Antonio (new)

Antonio Ippolito please, I am curious: which is the endearing culture you originate from?
Here in Italy it's mostly Tuscany indulging in so many niceties ("svenevolezze")
..please, quench my curiosity before I succumb to diabetes!


TL *Humaning the Best She Can* They don't bother me, my sister calls everyone darling


message 20: by Christy (new)

Christy fictional_traits You always have to treat people within their cultural/ generational context. I know there’s some people who think the elderly can make racist or misogynistic comments but, depending of course on exactly what’s being said, sometimes you just have to realise that’s the era they were raised in.


Tammie P ℓօรƭเɳαɓօօҡ I use darling, dear, hon and sweetie! I'm fine with terms of endearment.


message 22: by Craig Vasiliev (new)

Craig Vasiliev I love to give and receive endearments.


message 23: by Marquise (new)

Marquise Antonio wrote: "please, I am curious: which is the endearing culture you originate from?
Here in Italy it's mostly Tuscany indulging in so many niceties ("svenevolezze")"


Not sure if this is sarcasm, so I'll err on the safe side and say "no."


message 24: by Marquise (new)

Marquise Craig Vasiliev wrote: "I love to give and receive endearments."

You are also part of an affectionate family, right? Same for me. <3


message 25: by Marquise (new)

Marquise Tammie P ℓօรƭเɳαɓօօҡ wrote: "I use darling, dear, hon and sweetie! I'm fine with terms of endearment."

Good to know, thank you!


message 26: by Marquise (new)

Marquise Christy wrote: "You always have to treat people within their cultural/ generational context..."

That's very true. But then, in an online context with so many cultures and backgrounds mingling freely, how do you avoid inadvertently stepping on someone's toes? What's normal for one won't for another, and then there's those that simply want to pick a fight.

It's easier in person... but even so, it can't be avoided. The anecdote I told about the "dear" incident was in person, we both were the same age, and she knew me already. Sometimes, it boils down to ascribing ill-intentions to the other part that simply aren't there, as you noted.


message 27: by Marquise (new)

Marquise TL *Humaning the Best She Can* wrote: "They don't bother me, my sister calls everyone darling"

I don't call everyone darling, only some people I really like. I used to do it more when younger, and was given more of a pass on account of being young, but after the "dear" incident, I've limited its use.


message 28: by Marquise (new)

Marquise Juho wrote: "When it comes from you, I know it always comes from a good place. So call me whatever."

Hehehe, thank you, Ju! <3


message 29: by Marquise (new)

Marquise Leah wrote: "I think it's really sweet lol"

The intention is meant to, of course. :)


message 30: by Meishuu (new)

Meishuu Aww I guess it was a cultural difference? We usually call each other here “bebé” or “cariño” between close friends which are close to dear I think :)


message 31: by Marquise (new)

Marquise ~*~Princess Nya Vasiliev~*~ wrote: "We live in a time where everyone is truly offended by VERY trivial things.. It's what I call "selective outrage" which makes no sense to me."

Sigh, I know exactly what you mean. People make me regret being an extrovert more and more often these days. :'(

It's not just the reviews, I do attract a more-than-average amount of strange folks in person too, it seems... Family and friends have pointed that out to me (good thing they don't see my reviews!). And in these days when anything and everything finds someone to take offence at, I can't live self-policing myself. It's not humanly possible even if I tried.


message 32: by Marquise (new)

Marquise Meishuu wrote: "Aww I guess it was a cultural difference? We usually call each other here “bebé” or “cariño” between close friends which are close to dear I think :)"

Yes! I know, pretty common in your country and all of LatAm to use pet names, endearments, and diminutives like it's just verbs. My name doesn't have a diminutive, but would you believe they found one for it? Simply splat "ita" on it, and voilá, you've been adopted by a tía. :D


message 33: by Maria (new)

Maria Klondike I’m honored to be called darling lol.

I love endearments and I call my friends babe, hon, love, dear, sweetheart, etc. I look forward to being old enough that I get to call strangers younger than me honey or sweetheart and have them not think it’s flirting but just a general sense of affection and good intentions. I just have the soul of a grandma and spiritual “you remind me of my grandkid” energy, I’m not trying to flirt with you kiddo 😭


message 34: by Marquise (new)

Marquise Maria wrote: " I just have the soul of a grandma and spiritual “you remind me of my grandkid” energy, I’m not trying to flirt with you kiddo 😭"

#marquiseslifegoals: To be called "sugar" by a Southern lady as she stuff me full of tea and grits and sweets. <3

Seriously, though, even I haven't had the "she's flirting with me!" reaction yet. Phew!


message 35: by Cindy (new)

Cindy aka "The Book Fairy" Aha... can't resist adding my two cents worth for here in Newfoundland the terms of endearment can be quite varied!...Some common ones are " yes my love or lover, my trout, darling, duckie".......some visitors to our province have been surprised and not sure what to make of it ;)


message 36: by Maria (new)

Maria Klondike Lol you definitely feel rich in life. Gotta get you to a classic Americana diner sometime. Waffle House is peak. Great cheap food, lovely people, but the sweet iced tea might shock your tea sensibilities lol


message 37: by Marquise (new)

Marquise Cindy wrote: "Aha... can't resist adding my two cents worth for here in Newfoundland the terms of endearment can be quite varied!...Some common ones are " yes my love or lover, my trout, darling, duckie".......s..."

Yeah, I come from an affectionate family, but even I have been surprised at the terms of endearment I've witnessed or been given in several parts of the world.

Reminds me of that interesting little Tweet I forgot to save that was doing a mini-sociological study of how the youth have used pet names in every generation, and how some places use terms that sound downright offensive/racist/sexist in other places (the Aussie/Brit example of "c-nt" is the most famous one).


message 38: by Marquise (new)

Marquise Maria wrote: "Lol you definitely feel rich in life. Gotta get you to a classic Americana diner sometime. Waffle House is peak. Great cheap food, lovely people, but the sweet iced tea might shock your tea sensibi..."

Me and my gut bacteria are well-prepared! :D

It's funny, but I have American friends from different places of the country, and they have warned me that in some states they tend to be oversensitive to trifles and others are so friendly they're accused of "fakes." Oh, well, big country, I'm guaranteed to offend someone at some point. :P


message 39: by Beka (new)

Beka I call friends “mdear” a lot and love having pet names and endearments shared. So feel free to call me anything you like. 😂💕


message 40: by Mai (new)

Mai H. I'm from the US South where this is more common, but I hate how infantilizing it is


message 41: by Marquise (new)

Marquise Mai wrote: "I'm from the US South where this is more common, but I hate how infantilizing it is"

Heh, that's why I don't call you any pet names. :P


message 42: by Marquise (new)

Marquise Beka wrote: "I call friends “mdear” a lot and love having pet names and endearments shared. So feel free to call me anything you like. 😂💕"

Hahaha, yeah, I know. Thank you, Beksy! 💕


message 43: by Beth (last edited 6 hours, 12 min ago) (new)

Beth "Bethsy" is cute, not obnoxious at all.

Once I reached a certain age--about the same time women who have kids become grandmothers--I started to have this compulsion to call people "dear" or "sweetie" etc that I have to take deliberate effort to suppress. I have no children so I don't get why this is happening. I call my cat "sweet pea" many, many times a day, and he doesn't care, so that alleviates things somewhat.


message 44: by Persephone's Pomegranate (last edited 3 hours, 35 min ago) (new)

Persephone's Pomegranate I exchange endearments with some of my friends here, but only with those who are around my age or younger. I would never call someone much older than me 'darling' or 'precious.' In my culture, it is not appropriate for younger people to use such terms with those who are older.


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