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sequels!!! oh good gravy!! how have i missed all of this?? i cant believe i dont even have to read the teen books anymore because they were for the wrong class, but now i am making independent trips to the second floor for teen fiction that wasnt even on that list in the first place... if you knew my stance on teenagers, my daring to venture there would be more impressive. suddenly, i am one of the "adults who read teen fiction" that i used to rail against. some of it is pretty good (blush)
i still have to get me those snaily snail books. and i am going to read the teen books i bought for the (wrong) class, because they are here and i might as well. im a little convert!
on the non-fiction front you can read Into Thin Air, lots of survival there but not always with overcoming it.
thats just voluntary mountain climbing though, right?? i like stories where people are in jail and a volcano erupts. oh nooo!! or - what do i eat in the woods after i become stranded from the scouts and a moose wants to eat me?
Voluntary Mountain Climbing where fucked up and unexpected things happen.....
Did I ever mention that I have a Wilderness Survival merit badge from my Boy Scout days?
It's voluntary, but only to a certain extent. Once he's out there, during the winter, he's pretty much stuck. I mostly just liked all the descriptions of the clever survivaly things he does. He lives in a hollowed out tree and has a falcon for a friend. That should be enough. I guess it's not terribly action-packed though. But there was something that I really liked about it when reading it as a kid. It's sort of like Walden for kids or something.
did i ever mention i got kicked out of brownies?? dont give me badge-envy. the cookies are so bittersweet to me now.
I also have an Emergency Preparedness merit badge, what I had to do for each of those are really intertwined in my memory. During work on one of them though I learned how to make a real noose and napalm, two skills that every person should know.
noooo my comment of "voluntary" was to gregs suggestion to read into thin air (he keeps pushing that book on me) my side of the mountain sounds really good - i just read your review on it and liked it. i will check it out at work on tuesday (yet another trip to... that floor). now it is time for salad and dork-quizzing.
They never told us that one when I was in Boy Scouts.
They only focused on the astronauts and politicians. And Steven Spielberg.
Why is it hard for me to picture Spielberg as an Eagle Scout but somehow it's not with David Lynch? I think I might be racist.
karen wrote: "noooo my comment of "voluntary" was to gregs suggestion to read into thin air (he keeps pushing that book on me) my side of the mountain sounds really good - i just read your review on it and liked..."
Ah, I see.
Karen after you've gorged on Paulsen's survival tales, you'll have to read "Guts: the true stories behind Hatchet and the Brian stories" as well as "How Angel Peterson Got his Wings".
He's also an author worth hearing if you get the chance. Gruff and sweet and grandfatherly cool to the nines!
Greg wrote: "I also have an Emergency Preparedness merit badge, what I had to do for each of those are really intertwined in my memory. During work on one of them though I learned how to make a real noose and ..."
I was a card carrying member of the Boy Scouts of America in high school; we had this co-ed camping group that did extended backpacking trips. I loved it. Missed the napalm lesson. Do remember how to hang my food high when in a bear sanctuary.
I prefer small random acts of nuisance- like leaving small piles of raisins in mailboxes atop electric bills or writing poser on someone's front walk with blue chalk, but thanks for the napalm advisory. It may help take things up a notch.
i thought he was kidding about that - because this was after he was telling me they were board books etc...
jen, in your town, they probably assume all "nuisance attacks" are the handiwork of the guy that made that movie... you are probably making life hard for him.
I can't remember the napalm recipe exactly from Fight Club, but if I do remember it is a bit more complicated than the one I learned in Boy Scouts.
I will admit though that I was too afraid of ever actually trying out the recipe, knowing my parents would not be too happy if I happened to set fire to their house, the neighbors house, the woods behind the golf course, or the school playground with burning vapors I had no idea how to put out. So, what I know might be full of shit.
Tried to make napalm out of styrofoam and gasoline once (I'm pretty sure this was the Anarchist's Cookbook recipe--this kind of info was transmitted person to person usually). I don't think it worked. But the gasoline burned for a while. Oh, youthful pyromania. What's up with that tendency anyway?
I think it's because burning things is kind of fun as a male child.
I'm not sure if anything in the Anarchist Cookbook actually works, I've heard so many mixed things over the years of little mistakes that may or may not be intentional in the book that could result in blowing yourself up.
Where did you try to set off the napalm? That was always my biggest obstacle to experimenting with it.
Greg wrote: "I think it's because burning things is kind of fun as a male child."
Yeah, but why, Greg? Why?
its fun to destroy. for any child. destroying inanimate objects makes you normal. destroying living things makes you a sociopath.
Greg wrote: "Where did you try to set off the napalm? That was always my biggest obstacle to experimenting with it."
I think we'd only let the styrofoam soak for hardly any time at all, and I remember something about having to let it soak for a few days...in any case I'm sure it was just gasoline. I remember trying a variety of these pyro experiments mostly in a more isolated area where a friend of mine lived. One point I remember thinking that we we're going to burn down an entire field of corn where we'd tried to explode something or another. Things never exploded though, just burned until we reasoned that this thing was not going to explode so we could approach it and extinguish the flames. Reckless, reckless days. Luckily that all stopped once we discovered drugs and alcohol. Whew.
MyFleshSingsOut wrote: "Greg wrote: "I think it's because burning things is kind of fun as a male child."
Yeah, but why, Greg? Why?
"
Because we all secretly have the spirit of Jesus in us and want to baptize the world with Fire, not water...
Brian's Saga
* Hatchet (1987) (Has an alternate ending which makes a continuity with Brian's Winter)
* The River (Hatchet: The Return, The Return) (1991)
* Brian's Winter (Hatchet: Winter) (1996)
* Brian's Return (Hatchet: The Call) (1999)
* Brian's Hunt (2003)
I don't know if they are any good, but I think most of his books are about surviving in the wilderness.
I feel like Jack London at least has some short stories like that.
this male child theory is incorrect. Little girls are the exact same way people just don't talk about it.
my brother use to constantly yell at me for setting off the fire alarm.
I agree with Karen. I wsa going to write something like that instead of my Jesus answer.
I also think that living in a state where it was near impossible to get fireworks setting things on fire was the next best thing.
Boy Scouts was good for the fire thing too, it was kind of like sanctioned fun with fire, unless you used aerosol cans and tried to suck the fire back into the can and then throw it into the woods. Then you got in trouble even if nothing happened and no one got hurt....
Greg wrote: "Because we all secretly have the spirit of Jesus in us and want to baptize the world with Fire, not water..."
I was thinking of either some hilarious Freudian explanation or a evolutionary psychology style explanation that would actually make some sense, but I'd totally forgotten about the universal desire to turn the world to cinders. It's so obvious in hindsight.
My last roomate used to to yell at me for setting things on fire, so I guess it's not just being young in my case. But seriously in this day and age if you don't have a paper shredder doesn't setting fire to paper (in the kitchen sink, I'm not being reckless here) with personal information on it, like a social security number, just make sense?
Jasmine wrote: "this male child theory is incorrect. Little girls are the exact same way people just don't talk about it.
my brother use to constantly yell at me for setting off the fire alarm."
Wow, how great would that have been to find out that the cute girl you liked in grade school also wanted to burn things just as much as you?? We need to encourage girls to openly express their desire to raze things with flames.
MyFleshSingsOut wrote: Wow, how great would that have been to find out that the cute girl you liked in grade school also wanted to burn things just as much as you?? We need to encourage girls to openly express they're desire to raze things with flames.
I would say ask chances are she did. All of my friends did. It's why girls constantly do that aging paper with fire thing, because mommy won't get mad and you get to play with fire.
I'm just laughing over here, imagining all sorts of bass ackwards parental advice I may be giving out in the future, "Hey there, son. Now don't be afraid to ask little Susie to play with matches with you, because I've got an inside tip that says she's just as interested as you are when it comes to the sweet, sweet comforts of watching things burn..."
I too played with fire. And when Smokey the Bear came to my second grade classroom I didn't like him one bit, looney bear with slurred speech full of fire hate.
I sang this after his song, matching his chorus:
"Smokey the bear wears brown underwear,
he poops and pees right down his knees
and ruins his underwear"
Vintage Smokey propaganda- the song is at the very end...the dude talking about forest fire prevention is smoking a cigarette in the forest!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g05DjN...
Smokey never came to my school, but I remember the dare police officer, and I remember that nothing had ever made me want to do drugs more than that 4 week course.
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sequels!!! oh good gravy!! how have i missed all of this?? i cant believe i dont even have to read the teen books anymore because they were for the wrong class, but now i am making independent trips to the second floor for teen fiction that wasnt even on that list in the first place... if you knew my stance on teenagers, my daring to venture there would be more impressive. suddenly, i am one of the "adults who read teen fiction" that i used to rail against. some of it is pretty good (blush)
Yes, The River is a sequel and Brian's Winter and I forget the others.
Of course some of it's pretty good! All the way "down" to board books--genius lurks!
Of course some of it's pretty good! All the way "down" to board books--genius lurks!
i still have to get me those snaily snail books. and i am going to read the teen books i bought for the (wrong) class, because they are here and i might as well. im a little convert!
on the non-fiction front you can read Into Thin Air, lots of survival there but not always with overcoming it.
thats just voluntary mountain climbing though, right?? i like stories where people are in jail and a volcano erupts. oh nooo!! or - what do i eat in the woods after i become stranded from the scouts and a moose wants to eat me?
Voluntary Mountain Climbing where fucked up and unexpected things happen.....Did I ever mention that I have a Wilderness Survival merit badge from my Boy Scout days?
It's voluntary, but only to a certain extent. Once he's out there, during the winter, he's pretty much stuck. I mostly just liked all the descriptions of the clever survivaly things he does. He lives in a hollowed out tree and has a falcon for a friend. That should be enough. I guess it's not terribly action-packed though. But there was something that I really liked about it when reading it as a kid. It's sort of like Walden for kids or something.
did i ever mention i got kicked out of brownies?? dont give me badge-envy. the cookies are so bittersweet to me now.
I also have an Emergency Preparedness merit badge, what I had to do for each of those are really intertwined in my memory. During work on one of them though I learned how to make a real noose and napalm, two skills that every person should know.
noooo my comment of "voluntary" was to gregs suggestion to read into thin air (he keeps pushing that book on me) my side of the mountain sounds really good - i just read your review on it and liked it. i will check it out at work on tuesday (yet another trip to... that floor). now it is time for salad and dork-quizzing.
They never told us that one when I was in Boy Scouts. They only focused on the astronauts and politicians. And Steven Spielberg.
Why is it hard for me to picture Spielberg as an Eagle Scout but somehow it's not with David Lynch? I think I might be racist.
karen wrote: "noooo my comment of "voluntary" was to gregs suggestion to read into thin air (he keeps pushing that book on me) my side of the mountain sounds really good - i just read your review on it and liked..."Ah, I see.
Karen after you've gorged on Paulsen's survival tales, you'll have to read "Guts: the true stories behind Hatchet and the Brian stories" as well as "How Angel Peterson Got his Wings". He's also an author worth hearing if you get the chance. Gruff and sweet and grandfatherly cool to the nines!
And read "Harris and Me." DO IT!
Greg wrote: "I also have an Emergency Preparedness merit badge, what I had to do for each of those are really intertwined in my memory. During work on one of them though I learned how to make a real noose and ..."I was a card carrying member of the Boy Scouts of America in high school; we had this co-ed camping group that did extended backpacking trips. I loved it. Missed the napalm lesson. Do remember how to hang my food high when in a bear sanctuary.
I prefer small random acts of nuisance- like leaving small piles of raisins in mailboxes atop electric bills or writing poser on someone's front walk with blue chalk, but thanks for the napalm advisory. It may help take things up a notch.
i thought he was kidding about that - because this was after he was telling me they were board books etc...jen, in your town, they probably assume all "nuisance attacks" are the handiwork of the guy that made that movie... you are probably making life hard for him.
I can't remember the napalm recipe exactly from Fight Club, but if I do remember it is a bit more complicated than the one I learned in Boy Scouts. I will admit though that I was too afraid of ever actually trying out the recipe, knowing my parents would not be too happy if I happened to set fire to their house, the neighbors house, the woods behind the golf course, or the school playground with burning vapors I had no idea how to put out. So, what I know might be full of shit.
Tried to make napalm out of styrofoam and gasoline once (I'm pretty sure this was the Anarchist's Cookbook recipe--this kind of info was transmitted person to person usually). I don't think it worked. But the gasoline burned for a while. Oh, youthful pyromania. What's up with that tendency anyway?
I think it's because burning things is kind of fun as a male child. I'm not sure if anything in the Anarchist Cookbook actually works, I've heard so many mixed things over the years of little mistakes that may or may not be intentional in the book that could result in blowing yourself up.
Where did you try to set off the napalm? That was always my biggest obstacle to experimenting with it.
Greg wrote: "I think it's because burning things is kind of fun as a male child."Yeah, but why, Greg? Why?
its fun to destroy. for any child. destroying inanimate objects makes you normal. destroying living things makes you a sociopath.
Greg wrote: "Where did you try to set off the napalm? That was always my biggest obstacle to experimenting with it."I think we'd only let the styrofoam soak for hardly any time at all, and I remember something about having to let it soak for a few days...in any case I'm sure it was just gasoline. I remember trying a variety of these pyro experiments mostly in a more isolated area where a friend of mine lived. One point I remember thinking that we we're going to burn down an entire field of corn where we'd tried to explode something or another. Things never exploded though, just burned until we reasoned that this thing was not going to explode so we could approach it and extinguish the flames. Reckless, reckless days. Luckily that all stopped once we discovered drugs and alcohol. Whew.
MyFleshSingsOut wrote: "Greg wrote: "I think it's because burning things is kind of fun as a male child."Yeah, but why, Greg? Why?
"
Because we all secretly have the spirit of Jesus in us and want to baptize the world with Fire, not water...
Brian's Saga* Hatchet (1987) (Has an alternate ending which makes a continuity with Brian's Winter)
* The River (Hatchet: The Return, The Return) (1991)
* Brian's Winter (Hatchet: Winter) (1996)
* Brian's Return (Hatchet: The Call) (1999)
* Brian's Hunt (2003)
I don't know if they are any good, but I think most of his books are about surviving in the wilderness.
I feel like Jack London at least has some short stories like that.
this male child theory is incorrect. Little girls are the exact same way people just don't talk about it. my brother use to constantly yell at me for setting off the fire alarm.
I agree with Karen. I wsa going to write something like that instead of my Jesus answer. I also think that living in a state where it was near impossible to get fireworks setting things on fire was the next best thing.
Boy Scouts was good for the fire thing too, it was kind of like sanctioned fun with fire, unless you used aerosol cans and tried to suck the fire back into the can and then throw it into the woods. Then you got in trouble even if nothing happened and no one got hurt....
Greg wrote: "Because we all secretly have the spirit of Jesus in us and want to baptize the world with Fire, not water..."I was thinking of either some hilarious Freudian explanation or a evolutionary psychology style explanation that would actually make some sense, but I'd totally forgotten about the universal desire to turn the world to cinders. It's so obvious in hindsight.
My last roomate used to to yell at me for setting things on fire, so I guess it's not just being young in my case. But seriously in this day and age if you don't have a paper shredder doesn't setting fire to paper (in the kitchen sink, I'm not being reckless here) with personal information on it, like a social security number, just make sense?
Jasmine wrote: "this male child theory is incorrect. Little girls are the exact same way people just don't talk about it. my brother use to constantly yell at me for setting off the fire alarm."
Wow, how great would that have been to find out that the cute girl you liked in grade school also wanted to burn things just as much as you?? We need to encourage girls to openly express their desire to raze things with flames.
MyFleshSingsOut wrote: Wow, how great would that have been to find out that the cute girl you liked in grade school also wanted to burn things just as much as you?? We need to encourage girls to openly express they're desire to raze things with flames.I would say ask chances are she did. All of my friends did. It's why girls constantly do that aging paper with fire thing, because mommy won't get mad and you get to play with fire.
I'm just laughing over here, imagining all sorts of bass ackwards parental advice I may be giving out in the future, "Hey there, son. Now don't be afraid to ask little Susie to play with matches with you, because I've got an inside tip that says she's just as interested as you are when it comes to the sweet, sweet comforts of watching things burn..."
I too played with fire. And when Smokey the Bear came to my second grade classroom I didn't like him one bit, looney bear with slurred speech full of fire hate. I sang this after his song, matching his chorus:
"Smokey the bear wears brown underwear,
he poops and pees right down his knees
and ruins his underwear"
Vintage Smokey propaganda- the song is at the very end...the dude talking about forest fire prevention is smoking a cigarette in the forest!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g05DjN...
Smokey never came to my school, but I remember the dare police officer, and I remember that nothing had ever made me want to do drugs more than that 4 week course.



Do you know you CAN keep on reading Brian's story! There are like four sequels. Also, there is a nonfiction companion called "Guts" where Gary Paulsen tells you stuff from his real life that showed up in the book.