New Navigation Bar on Goodreads
UPDATE: the new navigation bar is now live for everyone on Goodreads! Thanks so much to those of you who filled out the survey—to those of you who haven't had a chance to do so yet, please be sure to fill out the survey to give us your feedback on the new experience!
Starting today, we're introducing a new navigation bar on the desktop site. With a more streamlined look, the new navigation makes it easier for you to get to all the features of Goodreads you love, search for books, and stay up to date with your messages and notifications.
This new experience will be rolled out over the next few weeks, so don't worry if you don't see it yet—it's coming!

The new navigation is designed to be clean and easy to read. It features a larger search box and adapts to the width of your screen, whether you're viewing Goodreads on a tablet or a desktop computer. If you're browsing Goodreads on a desktop computer, you'll also notice that it remains visible when you scroll down the page, keeping important links accessible at all times.
Under Browse, you'll find links to our popular Giveaways section (who can resist free books!), as well as New Releases, and author interviews and book recommendations in News & Interviews. The navigation also comes with a new spotlight on books from your favorite genres that are trending among the Goodreads community, helping you discover more great books to add to your to-read list.
Community is our new gateway to all things social on Goodreads. Find your Groups and discover new ones, see which authors are answering questions in Ask the Author, and test your knowledge with Trivia and Quizzes.
Once you have a chance to use the new navigation, let us know what you think of it via our survey.
Starting today, we're introducing a new navigation bar on the desktop site. With a more streamlined look, the new navigation makes it easier for you to get to all the features of Goodreads you love, search for books, and stay up to date with your messages and notifications.
This new experience will be rolled out over the next few weeks, so don't worry if you don't see it yet—it's coming!

The new navigation is designed to be clean and easy to read. It features a larger search box and adapts to the width of your screen, whether you're viewing Goodreads on a tablet or a desktop computer. If you're browsing Goodreads on a desktop computer, you'll also notice that it remains visible when you scroll down the page, keeping important links accessible at all times.
Under Browse, you'll find links to our popular Giveaways section (who can resist free books!), as well as New Releases, and author interviews and book recommendations in News & Interviews. The navigation also comes with a new spotlight on books from your favorite genres that are trending among the Goodreads community, helping you discover more great books to add to your to-read list.
Community is our new gateway to all things social on Goodreads. Find your Groups and discover new ones, see which authors are answering questions in Ask the Author, and test your knowledge with Trivia and Quizzes.
Once you have a chance to use the new navigation, let us know what you think of it via our survey.
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Woo, I got snapped at there. At the end of the day, punishing an author for their ad popping up is like boycotting McDonalds because your Kentucky Friend Chicken is undercooked...

Duane: PMSL!
Zelyaine: You obviously haven't been here long. Do you know how many USER requests we make that get IGNORED in favor of cosmetic crap for tablet/iPhone users when the VAST MAJORITY of GR users, like me, STILL use an actual DESKTOP COMPUTER?


Duane: PMSL!
Zelyaine: You obviously haven't been here long. D..."
Um. you are aware that there are 25 million users of this site, and there are maybe 40 people in here complaining or asking where is the homepage. This is not "many". Given the volume of users "Many" would be several million people. As there are not several million people posting in here we can conclude that 25 million people -40 saw the changes, didn't care enough to comment and moved on with their lives.




err... bring down the box for browse. Whole right side of it is the Genre list. Click all Genres to bring up the old page.

Um, no. Half of those are inactive, meaning they haven't visited GR in 2 years or more. Another 10 million haven't visited GR in the past year. Many "users" join only to enter Giveaways or request for a book to be found in "What's the Name of that Book." Many foreign language users abandon GR when they realize that books in their native language aren't imported automatically.

Amber wrote: "Zelyaine: You obviously haven't been here long."
I joined a year and a half before you.
Amber wrote: "I wasn't referring to the "Homepage link is the logo" complaints, Learnin Curve, I was referring to the fact that these changes, while they look good on a tablet or iPhone, absolutely SUCK DISEASED..."
But if you scroll to the bottom of the website, you'll see that there is literally a link that says "switch to: mobile version". So... can anyone confirm that GR is trying to make even the desktop version suitable for mobile? That would seem extremely redundant...

The New York Times navigation bar changes depending on whether you are at the top of the page, or have gone further down the page. At the top of the page, the button/link you click on to go "home" reads "T home". Any lower than that on the page, the word "home" disappears but the hover over the T says "go to the home page".
Wouldn't that be a nice compromise? Clearly a lot of people are still confused about where the HOME button went.

It's like when I bought a new commode for my kid's room, almost identical to the old one, and he stood in the front of it the first day frustraited saying "I can't find my socks". Gee, kid, it only has five drawers, open them and you'll find wich one has your socks in it :).

Amber wrote: "Zelyaine: You obviously haven't been here long."
I joined a year and a half before you.
Amber wrote: "I wasn't referring to the "Homepage link is the logo" co..."
I don't even know where to begin with this one. Mobile versions in general do not work well on screens over a certain size, and terribly on an ipad.
In a few years they will go the way of the dodo as phones get bigger and the cost of mobile internet gets cheaper, if they removed it then people with older phones, limited data packages, or poor eyesight/hand movement would be complaining. The button is not there so that people can switch to mobile, it's there so that people on mobiles and iPads can switch to desktop version.

Um, no. Half of those are inactive, meaning they haven't visited GR in 2 years or more. Another 10 million ha..."
:psyduck: even half of 100 thousand users is 50 thousand. As there are not 50 thousand people in here complaining then we can safely conclude that I'm afraid, horrible as a thought it may be, people who don't like the changes are in the minority.
I've seen what happens on a site this size when a change happens that the majority does not like, this is why people claiming it's most people, everyone and the majority of users is so laughable. 14 pages in a week? lol try 400 pages in a few hours on the announcement thread and 100 offshoot threads full of people losing their minds. Site owners very rarely change it back though, they just wait for the storm to die down, as it usually does in a week, and carry on.

Duane: PMSL!
Zelyaine: You obviously haven't bee..."
Many of those users you cite are sockpuppet accts-just so you know. Sock puppets write 5 star reviews for many a book.

In other words, if GoodReads is really trying to make the desktop site more mobile-friendly, then they are just trying to anticipate trends as most active sites with large userbases do, in order to avoid becoming too quickly outdated?
So should they enact regular change or not?

I can see "mobile version" being changed in the next few years into some form of stripped down ease of access version of websites or dropped altogether. If barely anyone uses mobile versions then it's a massive waste of resources that could go towards the "real" site.
People complaining at goodreads have no idea how much time and effort goes into maintaining a site like this. It has to work on three different desktop operating systems, each of which have multiple browsers. Then you have apple and android tablets, also with multiple browsers. All of which are being constantly updated, goodreads has to not only re-do old code to keep up with them, so that the site will work in every combination of browser and platform, but they also need to keep up with modern trends to prevent going the way of myspace.
It is possible part of the reason behind this update was they wanted to to replace bloated or old code and making the toolbar more streamlined is only the tip of the iceberg.

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Don't think the staff give a hoot. But that's what I did. O..."
Thanks for the tip. My favorite genres are now "Don't want to see recommendations on the new navigation bar". It doesn't solve it, but at least it's not so annoying...

Because they, too, have learned that they can't get their b****ing to get anything done, so they don't complain, Leanin Curve; just like you can't expect your b****ing about the government to get anything done regardless of whether or not you vote.
Lobstergirl is pretty damn accurate, Learnin' Curve when she says "Um, no. Half of those are inactive, meaning they haven't visited GR in 2 years or more. "
Zelyaine: If that's true, then WHY do you SOUND like a complete n00b over the fact that ALL website admins seem to exist solely to "fix" things that aren't broken?
Lobstergirl: Forget the idea of compromise? Why? because that's simple common sense and like the politicians, regardless of country or party, common sense is ANATHEMA to website admins...and 99.999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999ad infinitum% of Homo sapiens, our species.
La-Lionne: A "commode" is a TOILET, not a dresser!
Learnin Curve (again): No matter how much cheaper the iPads/mobiles get they will NEVER be cheap enough for people on SSI. Which means that "people with older phones, limited data packages, or poor eyesight/hand movement " will likely NEVER be able to afford it anyway which is ILLEGAL according to the Americans with Disabilities Act of 1995.
See what I told you at the top of this comment about voting/complaining to GR admin.


You are able to select your favourite genres when setting up your GR profile. You can also edit them under the "My Favourite Genres" section of the Genres page (under browse). There are probably other ways to do it too, but they keep changing things and I don't have reason to use that function, so...

The problem is that your library monitors and computers are old and out of date, it's the flickering on the monitor which causes headaches. The fact that the site went white as this is the modern trend is unfortunate but sites are not designed with old monitors in mind.
Instead of swimming against the tide and screaming into the wind on goodreads this could be an issue you could use to try and get new computers for your library. This won't be the only site that has issues, if they are that old then they won't be able to handle a number of programs and sites people use for learning which makes them about as useful as a chocolate teapot for a library. I would start by talking to the librarians, then disability and children's charities a lot of major businesses do donate computers often less than 2 years old to charities and you need to find out where to apply to. You have the kiddie, elderly and disabled all covered which should make your library a shoe in.

"La-Lionne: A "commode" is a TOILET, not a dresser!"
I almost feel sad for getting this response on a book site. Almost.

A donated computer for my home would be as useless to me as a screen door on a submarine so long as I continue to be unable to afford home internet access.
And speaking of the "chocolate teapot," it DOES exist! http://www.amazon.co.uk/Schokolat-Edi...

"La-Lionne: A "commode" is a TOILET, not a dresser!"
I almost feel sad for getting this response on a book site. Almost."
If you type the wrong words, you should feel ashamed of getting corrected!

Your library has just gone through an expensive renovation, but the old computer monitors which have been provided are giving the lovely well behaved children trying to do homework headaches (along with the elderly and the disabled).
This is a nice little political issue for someone to get hold of, especially in an election year. They get to make someone else look bad while being a hero.

"La-Lionne: A "commode" is a TOILET, not a dresser!"
I almost feel sad for getting this response on a book site. Almost."
If you type the wrong words, you should feel ashamed of getting corrected! "
Other than the fact that insulting La-Lionne is highly unnecessary whether she is right or wrong, a quick Googling by any capable internet user would show you that La-Lionne's definition is, in fact, absolutely correct. Telling her she's a fool for using this word to represent a dresser is equivalent to going to Europe and lecturing to locals that "water closet" shouldn't mean anything except a closet literally filled with water.
Additionally, getting corrected is not a point of shame, unless your education system and upbringing failed to point out that without mistakes, we don't learn anything.
@La-Lionne: I agree.... a book site, I mean one would think...
Anyway, on topic, it would be interesting to know what peripherals are being used by users who are commenting about the whiteness of the screen. From what I can observe, it's not any different white from every other website I come across, so it makes me wonder if those users have problems with those sites too?


I like that. I always tell that to the kids I work with.
Thank you for standing up for me. I was thinking about replying, but my reply wouldn't have been as polite.

OH NO... Call a WAAAAHmbulance!
When is it going to work right on my NetBook running Windows CE? I'm calling Discrimination! I'm gonna hold my breath until my face turns blue (or at least as long as the reefer stays lit).
(It's called "Legacy Software Support!!" That's what they pay software geeks the Big Bucks for!!!)
Oh, And, Also, DaMN YOU AMBER!!! :
"...these changes, while they look good on a tablet or iPhone, absolutely SUCK DISEASED MOOSE WANG, cosmetically speaking, on a desktop unit..."
NOW you've DONE it.
How the hell is THAT supposed to work? Is the Wang still attached to the Moose? Because if it is, Have you ever SEEN a Moose? They are BADASS... Do you realize Moose kill MORE PEOPLE every year than ANY other animal on the North American continent except Liberals?. Do you REAlLY think you're gonna get a Moose to *cooperate* with that? Because if he *doesn't*, whoever *tries* it is gonna be found upside-down in Nova Scotia or Siberia, where they *landed* after that Moose connected with them in Maine or wherever. AND YOU are going to be RESPONSIBLE for influencing suggestible GR readers into Death by Moose!!!!
(CRAP... Now I am going to be up ALL NIGHT pondering this...) <<< Fume... >>>

The monitors and computers were state of the art when they were donated. And about the kids, except for the middle schoolers and older, 99.9999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999ad infinitum% of the kids who show up here are too young to be here w/o supervision and are spoiled BRATS, because mommy and daddy are total wimps who do not DISCIPLINE them at home, then expect the librarians to do it...which I think is more likely to cause our headaches here than the screen refresh rates. It is YOUR job as a PARENT to discipline your own kids, not the job of your librarians!
Didn't wanna say anything about that earlier, Learnin Curve, because I was hoping you WOULDN'T bring it up.
Zelyaine : Since WHEN have ENGLISH dictionaries changed the definition of "commode" from "toilet" to "dresser"? It may be the correct definition in the non-English speaking parts of Europe but not in those parts of the world that speak English.
Duane: Blame Harry Dresden, the bad ass wizard PI of Chicago, Illinois created by Jim Butcher for that line. That line came from one of the Dresden Files novels when Harry was back talking to "Gentleman" Johnny Marcone, the Dresdenverse's Chicago based equivalent of Don Coreleone.
Vickie: Because as I've said before, site Admins love to "fix" things that aren't broken.

Simple Definition of commode
1: a low piece of furniture with drawers or sometimes a door and shelves
2: a chair with a hole in the seat and a pot underneath that is used as a toilet
Full Definition of commode
1: a woman's ornate cap popular in the late 17th and early 18th centuries
2a: a low chest of drawers
2b: a movable washstand with a cupboard underneath
2c: a boxlike structure holding a chamber pot under an open seat; also: chamber pot
2d: toilet
Obviously the most common meaning has shifted from a piece of furniture containing a chamber pot to the modern form of the chamber pot itself. The furniture meaning is older, possibly obsolete, and probably not often used in America these days. But still valid.
Can we drop the irrelevant debate over the word now? Please? Or does someone have to cite the OED?

So is shoving HUGE adverts down our throats. I'm perfectly capable of using the search function..."
Zelyaine wrote: "Elentarri wrote: "Vickie wrote: "On the boycotting books advertised by Amazon idea - that's awful. "
So is shoving HUGE adverts down our throats. I'm perfectly capable of using the search function..."
I couldn't agree more ^_^

I've got no problem with my desktop !

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And you are a librarian???

1. The section "Community -> Ask the author". Once I clicked on it I saw that it contains a list of 13 authors I've never read and most likely never will. Then why would I want to ask them any questions? Wouldn't it be better to have list of authors that a user has shelved/read?
2. "Community -> People" brings you to the page of most popular reviewers in your country. I get that they, too, are people, but how often does one go to the page to see how many likes a stranger got that particular week? This information is already available through the profile page. What I would like to see, in stead of a list with strangers and the amount of likes they got, a list of friends and information with how many books they have read or/and reviewed that week or that month.

This sounds like it might be a browser issue; I'm having trouble reproducing. Would you mind emailing support [at] goodreads [dot] com so we can help troubleshoot? "
Will do.
Forgot to mention: the problem only occurs when I use the basic search box at the top of each page. The dedicated search page works fine and I've bookmarked it to use for searches as a workaround.

No, that's never been explained as the reason for the bright white and eye strain. I actually am using a new monitor and find it too white, more so than other websites I frequent. I've had to use add-ons in browsers to manipulate some of the changes of the font to prevent eye strain and headache.

OKay, okay... IN your defense, yes, that *does* exonerate you of having INVENTED the concept. HOWever, you are STILL undeniably *disseminating* the idea. And as YOU Pointed out, there are LEGIONS of Precious Little Snowflakes whose parents have deposited them in front of an Internet terminal as a surrogate Babysitter, TRUSTING that they won't be tempted into involvement with Moose Wang!!
So where does that leave YOU, when some poor innocent little snowflake's mangled corpse is found in Labrador, flung there by an enraged Moose on a suborbital trajectory, all the way from Manitoba?? I mean, doesn't the "Social Contract" (All bow...) confer SOME responsibility upon YOU, to make the "Global Village" a "Safe Space" ?
HMMM?????
<< Duane **DIVES** for the nearest manhole and **YANKS** the lid on behind him... >>
(hmmm... I should go look up this Dresden dude, see what *else* he's got... .)
Edit: OOPS Almost Forgot!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T8ZFa...

Simple Definition of commode
1: a low piece of furniture with drawers or sometimes a door and shelves
2: a chair with a hole in the seat and a pot underneath that i..."
Although I have NEVER seen that definition in my life (and I've been reading since I was 4), I stand corrected.
Misty: You probably also don't have early onset cataracts, either from genetic predisposition to them, diabetes or both; like I do. And before Learning Curve says something along the lines of me not mentioning it before, I don't usually bring that up on my own. Not usually anyone else's business but my own.
La-Lionne: If I were a librarian, don't you think I'd have said so already?
Re: "1. The section "Community -> Ask the author". Once I clicked on it I saw that it contains a list of 13 authors I've never read and most likely never will. Then why would I want to ask them any questions? Wouldn't it be better to have list of authors that a user has shelved/read?"
Good question, actually. And one I think I can answer: Because some of the site admins, like a lot of other members of our species (Homo sapiens), are as averse to anything that reeks of common sense as traditional vampires are averse to garlic, silver, holy water, sunshine, wooden stakes, crosses/crucifies and rose bushes.
Duane: Not until I become a mother, myself. And even then, unless I'm babysitting or teaching I wouldn't be responsible for any kids but my own. Common sense ALONE should tell you that...and see what I just told La-Lionne about common sense.
Except for teachers and babysitters, other parents should mind their own kids and no one else's.

In general, the notifications dropdown is absolutely awful. Trying to read your notifications FROM the dropdown is like trying to hold water in your hand. I usually try to right click on each one and open it in a new tab, which worked under the old design, but now I can only right click on one notification before the whole dropdown disappears, and I have to reopen the dropdown in order to right click on each subsequent notification.
However the bug I mentioned at the top of this post is new as of today - HOVERING by itself makes the notifications vanish.

That never happened to me before the redesign.
Doesn't seem like the best design.
Why does it operate differently from other places with a "new" notification? E.g. if you are in a group and you click on a thread, the red new indicator doesn't vanish when the screen opens to show you the new posts in the thread. It only vanishes if you refresh the page, or close the page and come back to it.

oh, fuck, that really DOES suck Diseased Moose Wang.
you've probably seen this, but if not,
http://tailoreddisplays.com..."
If you're trying to get laughs out of us with the way you sign off your posts, IT'S WORKING! At least for those of us with a sense of humor! *BG*
Lobstergirl: This time I have to disagree with you. I LIKE the Notifications drop down because it helps me catch up quicker than going to my email account and scrolling through for recent notifications when I've been a long time composing a reply to a blog post from the GR Admin.

That never happened to me before the redesign.
Doesn't seem like the best..."
Wonder if it was a browser issue, since that did happen to me before the redesign. I've been having to remember which of the notifications were new since I started leaving comments. I use IE (no comments from the peanut gallery, please) for GR.

I feel like I have to jump through too many hoops to arrive at this number.
So is shoving HUGE adverts down our throats. I'm perfectly capable of using the search function, the lists, the n..."
Ads keep GoodReads free for all to use. I'm happy to turn on my internet-trained mental ad-ignorer for the sake of GoodReads, which is well worth it. GR's ads are far less intrusive than most sites we come across with a similar level of advertisement-based support. (For one thing, I am incredibly grateful that GR doesn't dump out pop-up ads at all).