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Please look at the reviews of The Garçonnière an look at those by Julio, Erika, monica, kimmi, leah, and many, many others.

I am really sorry to hear that, there does seem to be a trend from what I've heard from others whom have left.

Please look at the reviews of The Garçonnière an look at those by Julio, Erika,..."
ok, thanks

i think you made the right choice to pull your story from the anthology.
i'd have a cow if my story was representing queer romance in the same book as that hellacious excercise in oblivious privilege.

thanks for this. I spent nine days howling into the void over this, and it's nice to feel like somebody heard me.
fortunately, as you and Lisa and Emma pointed out in your own great reviews and posts about this, the list of amazing reviews of this book just keeps growing.
for all the friends who have disappointed us with their indifference, and their outright hostility—I think I've probably made another thirty new ones who joined their amazing voices with ours, helping to spread a little more empathy 'round these parts.

i think you made the right choice to pull your story from the anthology.
i'd have a cow if my story was representing queer romance in the same book as that hellacious excercis..."
I have no regrets about pulling my story from the anthology whatsoever. If the MMRG's brand on social media is going to be "that group that is okay with racism" then it's an easy decision to make.

I'm glad you enjoyed the story, Ryane. I personally feel there are subjects that should not be romanticised, so the concept of a white master/black slave historical was very disturbing to me. However, it was the group's tone deaf reaction that really convinced me to leave.
I also hope the author continues to write regardless of MMRG, and I wish her well for the future.

Same.

Thanks, Ryane.

“If you are not a part of the solution, you are a part of the problem.”
― Eldridge Cleaver



Was it expected that they would pull the story? Should they have created new guidelines about story content for future events? If so, what should those guidelines have been? How could they have come up with a list of guidelines that could have been comprehensive enough to prevent the writing of or request for any story that might be offensive? If they couldn't come up with a specific enough list of guidelines, should they instead a point a committee of people who would determine the appropriateness of each story or prompt before publication? Who would be on that committee?
I'm not here to argue, but I am genuinely confused about, and would like an explanation of, what the desired outcome here was. If you were a mod for the MM group, and you were responsible for drafting the official response, what would it have been?

That's been addressed many, many times by lots of people, but I think most explicitly here, by Emma Sea (quoted below)
https://www.goodreads.com/review/show...
"What people of colour asked for:
• An acknowledgement of unintentional hurt caused
• The addition of a non-consent tag to the story, as a person living under institutional slavery cannot freely consent (this was done).
• Thread space for resources for future DRitC authors on writing marginalized groups
• The opening of a discussion thread on the possibility of community guidelines for future DRitC events, also incorporating the concerns raised by people on topics of rape, homophobia etc. Something along the lines of;
While romance can bloom in the unlikeliest of environments, we ask that authors treat topics such as systemic oppression and persecution with sensitivity and respect, in line with the standards of the m/m community.
What people of colour never asked for;
• The banning of any stories
• The banning of any topics for prompts
• The introduction of censorship to the m/m romance genre"

Thanks, liz!

Vanessa, quoting Emma Sea, has covered it perfectly, I think.

I posted this elsewhere, but if, as you suggest, I'd been a mod for the group, this is what I would have posted, in a discussion thread, and also in an email that went out to the whole group. Like the social media email did about 4 days later:
The M/M Romance group values all its members. Due to the concerns voiced recently over one of the stories in the Don't Read in the Closet event, we wish to apologise for the hurt caused, and make clear that event stories should not romanticize oppression or persecution. Mods and volunteers will work with authors in future events to ensure sensitive topics are treated with all consideration. Please remember that community standards do not equal censorship. Share your thoughts in the moderated thread below. Remember to listen, and treat other members with respect.

That would also have been nice.

I also would have expected the MMGR or preferably the author withdrawing the story from the anthologies (mind, not the website per se, nor the group threads on GR, just the anthologies), as it keeps a lot of authors from staying in them (which would mean more or less support of racism by association).
ETA: yes, and a complete absence of aggression and humiliation towards POC and their allies would also have gone a long way.