To editors: an incoherent ramble in your honour



There's a very famous author out there who makes a lot more money than me, who, also famously, doesn't use an editor. And, as someone who's brain is currently mush thanks to spending the last few hours straight editing Darker Space, I get it. I do. Editing hurts my brain. But the simple fact that I can't remember my own name right now does not mean that I will ever think that editors are unnecessary. 

Because, frankly, I'm not that egotistical and I hope I never will be. There is always something I miss. There is always something my awesome beta readers miss. And there will always, in anything I do, be some way I can improve. 

Case in point: Darker Space . This is probably the most polished manuscript I've ever sent into an editor. God knows it should have been. I stared at it for long enough. 

And there was not a single page that came back without an edit on it. Sometimes it was just a comma, and sometimes it was a missing word, and sometimes it was just a "Um...you know this doesn't make sense, right?" 

When you're writing a thing, and when you've been staring at it for what feels like your entire life, your brain does this thing where it sees what you think you wrote, even though it turns out what you wrote was total gibberish. But it's not just that stuff an editor will fix it. You editor will tell you when a plot point simply doesn't make sense, or when a character suddenly acts like a completely different person with a completely different motivation, or (thanks, Katriena!) when a character thinks back to a particularly traumatic scene that happened earlier on, and apparently forgets the other guy specifically wasn't wearing boots. That's the sort of clanger that I didn't spot, but you can bet every reader would have! 

So yes, in some respects I hate editing. It's slow work, and it's not usually very exciting AND I'VE READ THIS S MANY TIMES I WANT TO PRINT IT OUT AND BURN IT UNDER THE LIGHT OF THE FULL MOON, but it's necessary. An editor is the person who takes your sometimes incomprehensible word vomit (and by your, of course I mean mine) and actually shapes it into a book. 

Editors are geniuses. They know what comma splices are and everything, whereas I have to Google it every time. 

Editors are magicians. They know what I'm saying even when, half the time, I wasn't that sure. 

And, incredibly, editors are modest. Okay, so writers are the ones that put the words on the page, but editors are the ones that make sure those words are publishable, and reach readers. And guess what? They don't take any of the credit? It's not their names on the covers. And that's kind of awesome. 

So yeah, I hope that I will never become the sort of writer who thinks she doesn't need an editor. If that ever happens, please slap me. 

There are probably at least three typos and a million extraneous commas in this blog post. I will never not need an editor. 

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Published on September 09, 2015 03:31
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message 1: by Lori (new)

Lori Yes. Yes. Yes. Well said, Lisa!


message 2: by Lisa (new)

Lisa Henry Lori wrote: "Yes. Yes. Yes. Well said, Lisa!"

Editors are just the BEST!


message 3: by Lisa (new)

Lisa Henry Ryane wrote: "I wish more authors used editors or at least beta readers. I could provide a list of books that lost a star because of grammar, syntax, auto-correct, and general formatting issues."

I've found that a few typos will always make it through to the finished product, however many eyes have looked at it, but you're right - there are way too many books out there that are just riddled with errors.

An editor isn't a fancy optional extra, in my opinion. An editor is a necessity.


TinaNicole ☠ Le Book Nikita ☠ All I got from this was that Darker Space has gone to the editor. Which means it's finished. Almost finished, anyway.

All focus was lost after that. ;)


message 5: by Lisa (new)

Lisa Henry TinaNicole ☠ Le Book Nikita ☠ wrote: "All I got from this was that Darker Space has gone to the editor. Which means it's finished. Almost finished, anyway.

All focus was lost after that. ;)"


Ha! And it totally turns out I wasn't lying about it being the most polished manuscript I'd sent in. Very few edits, and today it's off to line edits, so not long now until I find out a release date!


♣ Irish Smurfétté ♣ ^^^^^^ omggggggggggggggggggggggg!!!!


TinaNicole ☠ Le Book Nikita ☠ Lisa wrote: "Ha! And it totally turns out I wasn't lying about it being the most polished manuscript I'd sent in. Very few edits, and today it's off to line edits, so not long now until I find out a release date!"

Yey! Glad to hear it. You just made my day. :)


message 8: by Mel (new)

Mel I'm glad you're happy with your editor. Yay for everyone who uses one. I would, too.

But... sorry, this seems like a really not nice subtweet about a specific author who's deemed egotistical and a sort of writer and I really, really think that was out of line and seriously not even necessary to get your pro-editor point across.


message 9: by Lisa (new)

Lisa Henry I'm not really sure what you mean by "sort of writer". The author I'm thinking of is, at least in my opinion, egotistical. Other people are absolutely welcome to have different opinions on that.

I don't agree that it's out of line to start a conversation using an author's stated public opinion on the subject. I agree it may not have been necessary, but it was reading her opinion on the matter that made me start thinking about it, which is why I brought it up.


message 10: by Mel (new)

Mel Well, the 'sort of writer' is a quote from your blog post here; one that implies that you feel you're above one of 'those' writers.

So, since you really had a specific author in mind, why not name them? I'm really only getting sensitive to subtweets all around the web, which seems cowardly and mean and not at all helpful to me.

That is just my opinion, of course, but I would either choose a direct confrontation or just keep the underlying hostility/annoyance out of it at all.


message 11: by Mel (new)

Mel To maybe give another angle... I could just as easily have gone to Twitter or FB and write about this author dissing other authors who feel above using editors, which I found totally out of line and annoying or whatever. And so this circle goes on and on.

And the problem with subtweeting is that you never really know whom someone is talking about, but you have an idea—and maybe it's right or wrong—and that is really just only damaging.


message 12: by Lisa (new)

Lisa Henry I certainly don't feel like I'm above any writer who choses not to use an editor. I just hope that I never feel like I don't need one, because I do feel that it's bordering on narcissistic to think that you can never improve your writing, and that there is nothing an editor can bring to the table.

The reason I didn't mention the author wasn't because I was being cowardly or mean, it was because this post was about my reaction to her taking that particular stance, and nothing more. I was trying to avoid a discussion on that particular author's works, since this blog post is about my opinion, and not about the quality of another author's books/ For what it's worth though, the author is Anne Rice and she has repeatedly stated publicly that she doesn't use an editor.

Here's just one example: http://www.nytimes.com/2004/10/11/boo...


message 13: by Lisa (new)

Lisa Henry Mel *I guess nowt changes except ourselves* wrote: "To maybe give another angle... I could just as easily have gone to Twitter or FB and write about this author dissing other authors who feel above using editors, which I found totally out of line an..."

And yet, had I mentioned the author by name in the post, someone else might have said I was calling her out for no reason.

I mentioned her stance on editors to try and give this blog post some context. I didn't mention her by name because I didn't want the discussion to be about her and her books specifically. I certainly wasn't being sneaky or underhanded, or trying to make anyone guess who it might be, I was just pointing out that there are other authors, some of them quite famous, who don't feel the same way I do about the value of editors.


message 14: by Mel (new)

Mel Okay, thank your for explaining your reasoning and motives.

Please take my comments as only one feedback of how your blog post came across to me.

I don't want to unnecessarily quarrel over this longer. I'm trying a different approach here by, um, not subtweeting or just thinking to myself.


message 15: by Lisa (new)

Lisa Henry Different opinions are always welcome, and I appreciate that the tone of my original post came across to you in a way that I didn't intend. I'll try and organise my thoughts and write more clearly in the future!


message 16: by Mel (new)

Mel :) Thank you.


message 17: by Reflection (new)

Reflection Lisa wrote: "Different opinions are always welcome, and I appreciate that the tone of my original post came across to you in a way that I didn't intend. I'll try and organise my thoughts and write more clearly ..."

“You can please some of the people all of the time, you can please all of the people some of the time, but you can’t please all of the people all of the time” ~ John Lydgate

Personally speaking I LOVED your blog and the thoughts inspired by the author's opinion, and I was much more interested in discovering YOUR reaction than knowing any particular names.

Really looking forward to getting my hands on Darker Space. Kudos on getting your most polished manuscript to date, and respect to editors and the magic they weave.


message 18: by Lisa (new)

Lisa Henry Thanks, Reflection.

As soon as I've got the release date for Darker Space, I'll be sharing it everywhere!


message 19: by Reflection (new)

Reflection Yippee!
Tempted to say I'll watch this space...Think I may need an editor heh heh.


message 20: by Lisa (new)

Lisa Henry Lol!


♣ Irish Smurfétté ♣ Lisa wrote: "Different opinions are always welcome, and I appreciate that the tone of my original post came across to you in a way that I didn't intend. I'll try and organise my thoughts and write more clearly ..."

You just proved the point of your post lol. :D
Can't wait for more DS!!!


Mel *I guess nowt changes except ourselves* wrote: "Okay, thank your for explaining your reasoning and motives.

Please take my comments as only one feedback of how your blog post came across to me.

I don't want to unnecessarily quarrel over this ..."


i think it's cool that you stated your interpretation and reaction. I didn't read it at all this way, focusing on Lisa's feelings about editors. Knowing Anne Rice's feelings about them, I'm not surprised she was the catalyst lol
Also, for what it's worth, you two didn't come off as quarreling to me.



message 22: by Lisa (new)

Lisa Henry Thanks, Irish Smurfette!


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