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Enny,Thanks for responding. I'll figure out how to add you the contest since I hadn't thought through that folks my comment here LOL. Your comment about friends only is something I weigh heavily. Certain people who I've gotten to know and respect and like can influence me, especially those who read a lot. (like you). That to me is the usefulness of Goodreads. Not the absolute number of reviews or people who review, but the ability to 'meet' people and to cultivate a group of 'go to' people whose opinions you can trust and ask for more input if you're still on the fence.
Thanks for reading and for the feed back. [I'm marking you as #14 for purposes of the drawing. :) ]
Andy
No need to enter me in the contest. I've read (Un)Masked which turned out to be one of my favorites from 2012 and therefor bought The Last Grand Master even though I haven't had time to read it yet but I definitely will.
Well I'll tell you what, if you win, I'll give you a copy of the soon to be released next book -Purpose - which is due out in late May or early June. I wasn't planning to use it for a give away, BUT since you already own my other two books, I'd be happy to send you that one. :-)
Like Enny ( hi Enny:) I trust my friends reviews here on GR, I know their likes and dislikes, at least to a certain extent and find it helpful in deciding if I want to give a book I'm unsure of a try.I do like reviews, it gives me an insight to what they liked/disliked about it, doesn't mean I'll agree, but I have a few no-goes and blurbs/tags are very rarely helpful in weeding those out, so I rely on reviews or shelves to help me there.
I don't pay much attention to purely star ratings, not because I don't trust them ( although there are sock puppets,but they are pretty easy to spot) but because they just don't help me know if I will enjoy the story.
I avoid amazon reviews completely.
I also have GR friends recommend or dissuade me from books because they know my likes and dislikes and I find that also very helpful.
But all that aside, if I read a blurb and an excerpt and it just grabs me, I'll go for it even with no reviews or ratings to go on, I have discovered a few gems that way.
Me three for the friends' reviews - I have certain people whose tastes tend to mirror mine. If one of them pans a book, with reasons that resonate with me, that drops that book very low on my list. If more than one does, it tends to come off. (So many books, so little time.) If two or more like it a lot, it goes up. I do look at overall rating a bit, and if there are a bunch of low ratings I try to read a few of those reviews, to get a feel for what bothers people. It may be something I have no problem at all with (like cheating) or something that irks me (like head-hopping.) I pretty much only read reviews here on GR, or on a a few blogs, where I know the reviewers.As far as author reviews of other writers' books, seeing only high ratings doesn't mean they give all books 4s and 5s. It may mean that, like me, they've moved to only posting reviews for books they like. When I don't like a book much, I've come to feel like saying so and why is a bit of hubris. It feels like I'm saying, "I could have written this book better." So most of my reviews now are high scores, but books I liked less or had an issue with just go onto my read shelf unrated. (So do some books I love and didn't review for various other reasons, so if you look at my "read" and find no rating that's not an indicator that it's not good. I have unrated Josh Lanyon books on there, and the man is a great writer.)
I do like seeing reviews, they are far more helpful than blurbs. But there are selective ways to use them that improve the value far above a simple 3.86 average.
I find different friends valuable in selecting different types of books for different moods.Very few of the books I love are the objects of universal acclaim.
I totally agree with Joolz. My reading moods swing all over the place. I like a smorgasbord of reading possibilities and look to different friends for recommendations depending on the mood.I also look carefully at those author reviews that come up from authors whose work I respect. It must be tricky for them putting up a review for a colleague but it's good to see their perspective.
In the end, it's all so subjective and reviews are another way to socialize with people I've met in GR. I will so often try out a book no matter what the review trend says.
Mandy*reads obsessively* wrote: "Like Enny ( hi Enny:) I trust my friends reviews here on GR, I know their likes and dislikes, at least to a certain extent and find it helpful in deciding if I want to give a book I'm unsure of a t..."Wow, Sorry Mandy, I missed all of these after Enny's -You're number 15 btw.
It seems to be a common theme - I have friends whose reviews I follow who can and will influence me sometimes. That's how it is for me too.
Thanks so much for the feed back. I'll leave a general comment after I finish responding to all the comments.
AQG
Andrew wrote: "Mandy*reads obsessively* wrote: "Like Enny ( hi Enny:) I trust my friends reviews here on GR, I know their likes and dislikes, at least to a certain extent and find it helpful in deciding if I wan..."GR loves to mess with notifications, that's how they keep me on my toes. :)
Kaje wrote: "Me three for the friends' reviews - I have certain people whose tastes tend to mirror mine. If one of them pans a book, with reasons that resonate with me, that drops that book very low on my list..."Kaje - first thanks so much for feed back - Like I said to Mandy - I missed these two back on the 4th so I'm sorry I didn't answer sooner - you're 16 BTW.
One thing that set GR's apart is the 'shelves' concept. It's a good idea - one I barely use, but should use more. I like your idea that I'll shelve it - DNF or something like that. That way you send a message to people who follow you - 'tried, but it wasn't for me' then they can ask for you're feed back if they want.
Thanks again for answering and sorry it took so long to get back.
AQG
joolz wrote: "I find different friends valuable in selecting different types of books for different moods.Very few of the books I love are the objects of universal acclaim."
Joolz - thanks for stopping by - You're 20 [for the give away - ignore this, I did it b/c it helps me keep count shifting between here and my website.]
Another interesting take. I got a review from some one this week who said (and I'm para phrasing) "I love your writing, but am not a fan of High Fantasy, but I tried it anyway. Despite liking your writing still, I still don't like HF and DNF' so in that, if I'm looking for Fantasy suggestions, she is definitely not the friend to consult. So what you said makes total sense.
Thanks again.
AQG
You know, that's part of the good stuff on GR - knowing about the reviewers a bit, from the comments and so on. There are a couple whose tastes I agree with, except for particular quirks (like hating pet names for example) that I don't share. So if that's in their reviews, I know to discount it. That's part of this being a community.
If I like the blurp, I usually check my friends here on Goodreads to see if they have anything to say about it, if they don't I might check other reviewsI occationally forget to check and more often than not that backfires and I get a piece of c..p
As for me, I rate with stars and sometimes leave a note for myself to remember WHY I loved/hated the book, but I really don't care if this help others or not (sorry guys)
Kaje wrote: "You know, that's part of the good stuff on GR - knowing about the reviewers a bit, from the comments and so on. There are a couple whose tastes I agree with, except for particular quirks (like hat..."The idea of a community is valid. Sadly, like real life, some in the community give the greater whole a bad name. I've met some very nice, helpful and supportive [and I mean that in the sense that even if they don't like what I did, they told me and told me why in a polite and professional way.] people here. I'm sure in time I'll meet a troll or two, but as I said, I know those people in the real world so I accept that for what it's worth.
What the response are showing me is what I hoped to see - that before people will 'listen' to the advice in a review, they need to know the reviewer first. So any review - good or bad - is really only going to move people who follow the reviewer and even then, it's not blind faith.
This was a very good exercise for and I appreciate everyone's input. As you said, it's a good community and I'm pleased with all the feedback. :)
Idamus wrote: "If I like the blurp, I usually check my friends here on Goodreads to see if they have anything to say about it, if they don't I might check other reviewsI occationally forget to check and more oft..."
Idamus, {22 btw}
The notion of 'just leaving stars' isn't something to apologize for. Having tried to write reviews that sum up why I like something and realizing I'm writing a ton of spoilers, or when all I have to say is, I read this, I really liked it, I didn't analyze it too much to write a thoughtful review, I don't leave written reviews either. As an author, when someone I don't know leaves me a review with just stars, it's appreciated. It means they read it and are telling me so. As a reader, if I see someone whose taste I mirror, and they leave just stars, i'm free to message them and ask, so stars are helpful, but mostly within the context of - if they are from someone I know and whose tastes in reading is similar to mine - which is basically what you said at the start - you look to your friends to see if any of them have any experience. :)
Thanks again for commenting
Elizabetta wrote: "I totally agree with Joolz. My reading moods swing all over the place. I like a smorgasbord of reading possibilities and look to different friends for recommendations depending on the mood.I also..."
Elizabetta - {21 btw - see my response to Joolz for what that means}
First I swear I responded - I know I did because I spelled your name wrong at first. So I must be getting old and . . . and I don't know what else LOL.
It is tricky for me as an author to review them, but I like to try where I think they've done something well. I think you hit it well when you said, it's a way to socialize. I've read a few 'comment treads' on people's reviews where the people go back and forth and it's clear they know each other well.
This blog has been informative in several ways and I'm very pleased to have gotten so much useful feedback.
Thanks again.
AQG
Andrew wrote: "Idamus wrote: "If I like the blurp, I usually check my friends here on Goodreads to see if they have anything to say about it, if they don't I might check other reviewsI occationally forget to che..."
Ah, no I was appologizing for not caring if my one-line reviews are helpful for my friends -seeing as I use theirs ;)
Idamus wrote: "Andrew wrote: "Idamus wrote: "If I like the blurp, I usually check my friends here on Goodreads to see if they have anything to say about it, if they don't I might check other reviewsI occationall..."
LOL ops, my bad. I'll let your friends decide if that's cool or not :-P
Andrew wrote: "Elizabetta wrote: "I totally agree with Joolz. My reading moods swing all over the place. I like a smorgasbord of reading possibilities and look to different friends for recommendations depending o..."Continuing on the social vein: As a reader you have to be very careful and considerate with those back and forth discussions. Esp. if it's a review you don't agree with. It's so easy to get into a 'disagreement', I've seen it happen more than once and I'll usually opt to not participate at all. The etiquette of entering into an ongoing discussion is interesting too esp. if you're not 'close friends' with the participants (and confusing...is it considered rude, like butting in in real life?)
Of course, the great value in reading/discussing reviews is discovering different viewpoints, the different ways people react to a book and I learn something not only about them but about myself as well... Sorry, this is straying from the 'value of reviews to authors' I guess...
I only read reviews before reading a book if I suspect the story has an element I hate reading. If I like the blurb, I read the book. Sometimes it works for me, sometimes not. Reviews are so subjective. I've loved stories with a 2 star rating and I've hated books with an overwhelming number of 5 star reviews.As for review sites, I pretty much ignore anything they have to say unless it's a low rating as I've found they tend to be ridiculously soft on bad stories. If they give a low rating, the book has to be utter rubbish!
jules0623 wrote: "I only read reviews before reading a book if I suspect the story has an element I hate reading. If I like the blurb, I read the book. Sometimes it works for me, sometimes not. Reviews are so subjec..."I totally agree with you, Jules. My taste in books often goes against the grain of reviewers. Review sites are generally way too soft, and the blurb is a much better indication of whether or not I'll like a book.
Also, on sites like Amazon I tend to ignore all the five star and one star reviews as in some way biased. The three and four star reviews are usually better at convincing me to buy, even if they are only a line or two. When a book has only a few reviews and they are all five stars, gushing about how great the book is? Almost like having no reviews at all, I think.
Another point, with the "look inside" feature on so many books, where you can preview a few pages or chapters, it makes the reviews even less necessary.
jules0623 wrote: "I only read reviews before reading a book if I suspect the story has an element I hate reading. If I like the blurb, I read the book. Sometimes it works for me, sometimes not. Reviews are so subjec..."Hey Jules,
{23}Thanks for responding. The - ' I read the blurb and decide' method is what readers had to do for decades before the advent of on-line reviews, so it makes sense that the tried and true with a tweak - the checking to see if it has elements you don't like - seems a good idea.
Thanks again.
AQG
Amelia wrote: "jules0623 wrote: "I only read reviews before reading a book if I suspect the story has an element I hate reading. If I like the blurb, I read the book. Sometimes it works for me, sometimes not. Rev..."Amelia,
{24} Thanks for stopping by. I read a post somewhere from an author who said - they got this really good written view, among the best for the book, but the rating was 2 stars. They knew the reviewer so one day when they were chatting, the author asked the reviewer and was told the reason for the two stars was because readers pay more attention to a story that doesn't have all 5 star reviews and that for those who ignore the rating but read the review, they'd see the reviewer liked the story. So it seems there is more truth to that notion than I thought.
Thanks for the comments and the insight.
AQG
jules0623 wrote: "I only read reviews before reading a book if I suspect the story has an element I hate reading. If I like the blurb, I read the book. Sometimes it works for me, sometimes not. Reviews are so subjec..."My creditcard is very grateful for your booktestings ;)

] So do you focus on absolute numbers or do you take them in context?


The number of reviews doesn't matter either. I've read fantastic books which had only 5 positive reviews and some I disliked even though hundreds of people thought they were wonderful. Recently a friend of mine here recommended a book written by an author I had never heard of so I bought it, read it, loved it and consequently bought all the others by this author at Amazon.