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Jan 23, 2013 03:54PM
now i understand what Susan ment when she wrote she would even devour a grocery list written by you :)
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I couldn't reach the "like" button fast enough.Skybound has to be my favorite of your works because you can feel the joy in it. It comes through in every perfect word. I didn't read any other book last year that made me feel like Skybound did. My nervous system seemed to quiver with every lyrical sentence. There was nothing I would have cut or added. It was amazing and I felt very satisfied at the end after the emotional roller-coaster of being so completely afraid for the characters. I don't want more Skybound (since where could it go but down?), I just want more stories like that. Lately I've been reading a lot of books that have just left me feeling cold. Need to get back to the Riptide stash that I dole out to myself like candy whenever I need a guaranteed good read.
I don't understand the hate of shorts. I love short stories. I can read through them quickly, and I haven't invested several weeks if it turns out the work is a disappointment. People have told me that there just isn't so much character development in a short work, but I disagree. Short stories cut away the chaff and get right to the heart of what matters - character development, relationship and plot. But yes, I get the same reactions. "Oh, it's a short" seems to be a derisive term any more. I think it's a huge shame. I love to write short stories as well as read them, but their lack of success means I seem to be ignoring my muse more often than not. Maybe that's the reason for my lack of output lately. Perhaps I should just listen to my soul and ignore the rest.
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Lisa Arbitrary - AttentionIsArbitrary M/M Blog
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A short seems to highlight writing skill, imo. To pare a work down to so few words truly emphasizes the good and the bad.As a typically long-winded person, I'm personally amazed when an author can make me soar within such a small word count. This is the case in Skybound.
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I'm in awe of people who write really good tight short stories. I love the analogy of the ship and the jewelry. I do much better at ship-building (Ocean liners even ;) but I admire the craft and art of something small. I do see people down-rating short stories for being too brief, but I also think the ebook has given short stories a new life. I know my solo short stories are read more often than my anthology stories, which were the only real venue for short fiction in the past (the relatively recent past anyway, where magazines were losing popularity.) I read far more shorts, now that I have an e-reader, than I ever did in paper. So to some degree I think this could be considered a new renaissance for the short form, even if some readers will consider length an indicator of quality. From the ratings on Skybound (well deserved) there are clearly others who appreciate fine jewelry.
Kaje wrote: "I'm in awe of people who write really good tight short stories. I love the analogy of the ship and the jewelry. I do much better at ship-building (Ocean liners even ;) but I admire the craft and ..."It's great to see short stories back thanks to e-readers. I love a good short story. I haven't written any (I'm more comfortable with a longer word count to play with) but never say never!
Maybe it's a matter of greedy readers? Certainly I've felt disappointed a short story was done when I really enjoyed it, and I wished it was longer so that I could spend more time immersed in its world. Perhaps people subtract points from their total score for feeling like that at the end of a story? Personally, it makes me add points, because I love it when a short story makes me feel that excited.As for what to do when writing - I agree that it's about what the story wants, what the evidence suggests as you dig it up, and whether readers prefer something long or short is entirely secondary.
LOL - it defintely is a matter of greedy readers, I'm one of them. If I love a short story I sometimes really want to read more about the characters. And it depends for me very much on the construction of the short story.
Some are complete stories, even if they are short, they tell something, they have a definite beginning and a promising satisfying end. They are little gems and at the end of the story I feel that it is good, nothing more needs to be done, said and written.
Then there are others - well written, enthralling and in the end I feel like I'm left outside a door, the party just to start inside. To be at ease, to end the story in my head, to be able to let it go I would need more. That doesn't mean the story is bad - no way, most of the time it's quite the opposite - it means I can't get closure from the story. That's when I write in my reviews "much too short". Maybe I should word it different...maybe I should write "I fell in love with the characters and couldn't let them go...so our time together was too short, it ended on the wrong point for me". That actually sounds better, true?
You now could argue "But if you fell in love with the story, why would you deduct a star because it's too short?"
And my answer would be "Because it has left me hanging. It got me invested, made me love it and then...bum...ended."
It's like being on a great date and then the guy you had so much fun during dinner leaves suddenly before dessert. It's just a date (short story), not a relationship (novel) but it ended too soon.
And on short stories generally - I agree that they are great. I love them because I can't put books down and sometimes I need to read but only have limited time. Then a short story is perfect.
Getting good closure on a short story is part of the skill, and I think it's perfectly fair to downrate a story that doesn't give you that. Back in college I took one creative writing class, and the prof, while encouraging, told me that all my shorts read like the first chapter of novels. (Smart woman.) In that case the reader is entitled to feel let down. But yeah, sometimes even with a good ending on anything (short or novel) you wish you could crawl back into that space. Some people do take off stars for that wish, but that's their perogative. When they say that (as opposed to "felt incomplete") it's a compliment, whether they take stars for it or not.
I love short stories these days. I used to read them a lot years ago when I subscribed to Asimovs or Analog SF magazines. Now I can get them just about anywhere, and in many different genres thanks to e-books.Ironic sentiment, I know, since I'm plowing through Special Forces at the moment, but hey, I'm an omnivorous reader.
LisaT - We Are Qhuay! wrote: "A short seems to highlight writing skill, imo. To pare a work down to so few words truly emphasizes the good and the bad."I totally agree. What I love about -good- short stories is the feeling of seeing what really matters. It's an odd feeling knowing that you met someone on the most important day of their life, even if it's only fictional.
Emanuela ~plastic duck~ wrote: "It's an odd feeling knowing that you met someone on the most important day of their life, even if it's only fictional. "Oooh, that's a great and interesting perspective that hadn't really dawned on me before. I think I'm going to look at things quite differently now. Thanks Emanuela :)
Maybe some reviewers do not articulate it clearly? I mean, I most certainly said when I reviewed some shorts that I thought it should have been a novel. The thing is I did not mean that "I would have preferred to read a novel". What I did mean however is that the writer squeezed so much in that short (and yes, I see it over and over) that he or she did not give anything in it a lot of thought, a lot of depth, etc.Basically when I say something like this, I am trying to give a writer a benefit of the doubt and suggest that maybe instead of barely touching upon a lot of complex, sophisticated topics in the 30, 40, 50 page story, maybe it would all make more sense as a novel.
Sorry for rambling, and my response is not caused by leaving such review on any of your works - I have not reviewed your works in ages. I just wanted to clarify - because I certainly said what you mention and more than once, but that had a different meaning for me than for you :) I absolutely adore well done shorts, it is just I feel that a lot of writers do not do the shorts write and instead write the outlines for the novel.
Sirius
Dumbledore11214 wrote: "Maybe some reviewers do not articulate it clearly? I mean, I most certainly said when I reviewed some shorts that I thought it should have been a novel. The thing is I did not mean that "I would ha..."Having another mind-meld with Sirius, and have to agree with everything she just said. :) When I say a story was "too short" I mean that it seemed to have fewer words than necessary for the story I thought it was trying to tell. It felt incomplete, or painted with such broad strokes the details that enable me to connect with the story were lost. Or it was like an Impressionist painting under a microscope - you see the individual dots but have no idea what image they're meant to convey.
I think most writers can make shorts work as companions to novels, but I'm always awed when I come across a writer who tells a complete, compelling, stand-alone story with just a few words. I've read some, but they are definitely the exception. (And, Kaje, it never ceases to amaze me that you're one of them; you've clearly improved since college :)
Jess (jeayci) wrote: "Dumbledore11214 wrote: "Maybe some reviewers do not articulate it clearly? I mean, I most certainly said when I reviewed some shorts that I thought it should have been a novel. The thing is I did n..."Yeah that :). If I love the short so much that I am being a greedy reader as someone unthread said and simply do not want to say good buy to the characters I would never ever downgrade for that. I downgrade only if I use "too short" as a short hand for the "story has problems in its current fo
And I hope that if it was longer maybe those problems would have gone away".
Love short stories when they are well done - and there are a lot of good ones out there. Quid Pro Quo? Just - DAYUM!
Aleks*shakes head*
now I know why you I love so much you and your writing.
You are a real wizard of words, and I never get tired to read something from you.
Thanks.



