‘Manas’: inspiration from Chingiz, Bilga Khaghan

Today I read the beginning of Manas – the Kyrgyz oral epic – and was struck by Chingiz resemblances. Already I think Chingiz overshadows the story. I’m not alone: the introduction to the online Manas discusses its similarities to the Secret History of the Mongols. There are obvious clues. The father of Temujin’s wife-to-be has a dream… I’ll quote my own words, that are straight from the Secret History (of course): “In my dream I saw a gyrfalcon in flight, sheer white, with the sun and the moon in its talons. It flew down to me, as if I had cast the bird, and alighted on my glove with its trophies.” That’s a bold dream, you’d think, but the epic poem is three times as bold. Here’s what the future father of Manas dreams:


Reaching with my right hand,

I grasped the sun for myself.

Reaching with my left hand,

I caught the moon for myself.

My right hand held the sun,

My left hand held the moon.

I took the sun

And put it in the place of the moon,

I took the moon

And put it in the place of the sun. (lines 3083-92)


I don’t know (yet) what that signifies, except it’s fast and loose with the heavenly objects. I have had glimpses ahead to other Chingiz echoes, from the blood clot in his hand as he comes from the womb to, possibly, the manner of his death. It’s more than specifics, though… it’s the story, it’s the scope. I can only talk hazily now – I’ll get back to you.


I consulted another introduction to Manas, by R.Z. Kydyrbaeva. The poem, she says, “can be seen as an imaginary history of the Kyrgyz people, in which myths, fairy-tales, legends and historical events are inextricably interwoven.” She finds distinct echoes of the stele inscribed by Bilga Khaghan of the Blue Turks (pictured above) that I quote – almost word for word – early in Tribal Brawls:


“I did not come to the throne a rich king. I came to a weak people, without food on their inside, without clothes on their outside. Of this I spoke with my brother Kul Tegin, that the work of our father Elteresh for the Turks’ name and fame be not lost, and we spent, for love of the Turkic people, our nights without sleep and our days without a spell from labour. Our nobles and our people who had gone to foreign service came back on foot and naked. Forty-seven campaigns, twenty battles fought Elteresh; thirty-five wars fought Kul Tegin and I, to feed and clothe them.”


Up against this Kydyrbaeva quotes Manas:


Forty-two years was he khan,

Gathered solitary kites and turned them into worthy birds,

Gathered exhausted slaves and turned them into a people,

Gathered gold so that it lay scattered like stones,

Made that scattered people into a great nation. (lines… he doesn’t tell me)


She claims, “The very text of the epic, its compositional structure and stylistic qualities evoke the eulogy of Kul Tegin by Bilga Khaghan.”


And the common theme is unity – with the common weal of the people. “The whole spirit of the epic centres on the idea of unification, an idea that runs through Manas. It constantly stresses that fragmentation and intestine strife are signs of weakness.”


Which certainly echoes both Bilga Khaghan’s stele and Chingiz’ life story.


– the online Manas translated by Elmira Kocumkulkizil, 2005. Link: http://www.silk-road.com/folklore/manas/manasintro.html

– R.Z. Kydyrbaeva, ‘The Kyrgyz epic Manas’ in C.E. Bosworth and M.S. Asimov, editors, History of Civilizations of Central Asia. Volume IV, The age of achievement: A.D. 750 to the end of the fifteenth century. Part Two: The achievements. Unesco, 2000.

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Published on January 14, 2013 01:11
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message 1: by Tim (new)

Tim Martin The February 2013 issues of National Geographic (with Unseen Libya on the cover) has an article on Kyrgyz nomads in Afghanistan. Great photography.

So do different ethnic groups and traditions in that part of the world have their own version of events relating to Genghis Khan?


message 2: by Bryn (new)

Bryn Hammond Have stacks of ancient National Geographics, for the photography. I'll keep an eye out for the February.

He must have left a memory everywhere he went, don't you think? I'm putting together a list of what seem to me 'Genghis echoes' in this epic, for the next post.


message 3: by Tim (new)

Tim Martin I can imagine he shaped the stories of that part of the world like no man before or since. I know the Europeans certainly saw him and his people a great deal differently.


message 4: by Bryn (new)

Bryn Hammond I don't know that there's a figure in history with more widely divergent views about him.


message 5: by Tim (new)

Tim Martin Unless you want to open the can of worms that is religious figures, yes I would agree. I think speaking from someone who has been taught more Western than Eastern history (or non-Western maybe?) I am sure I don't appreciate how many divergent points of view there are of him.


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