Musings on medieval monarchs and leprosy

Another day, another squabble with the Deadline Dragon, who has so outworn his welcome. I am currently doing medical research which is not fun; if I spend too much time dwelling on the grim details of a disease, I start to worry that I’m infected with it, too! Well, not always; so far I have not been worrying that I contracted Baldwin’s leprosy. We tend to think of it as a disease of the past, but that is not exactly true. I’ve read that 250,000 people worldwide have leprosy, most of them in India. It is estimated that a person is diagnosed with it every two minutes, but in the US, only 150 people a year contract it. The difference is that we now have the means to treat it, whereas Baldwin had little to combat it besides prayer. And of course we now know that it is nowhere near as contagious as people once thought and up to 90% of the population has a natural immunity to it. This is hardly the most cheerful way to begin a post, but at least I am sparing you all a detailed discussion of the symptoms!
On the historical front, June 21st, 1377 was the death date of the Plantagenet king, Edward III. He was not yet 65, so I think we can consider his death in our favorite What If game. Had he lived for another ten years, for example, his grandson Richard would have followed him to the throne as a man grown, not a child, and that would surely have changed British history; for better or for worse, who knows? Watching from the Hereafter, Henry II might have felt a twinge or two of envy for Edward’s parenting skills He had five sons and they gave him none of the troubles and grief that Henry’s four sons gave him. Edward is known for his devotion to his wife, Philippa, and then for his infatuation with his mistress, Alice Perrers. I have been trying to think if he has ever been the subject of a novel, but nothing came to mind. Readers?
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Published on June 21, 2017 14:05
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message 1: by Asghar (new)

Asghar Abbas Totally understandable. When I was looking up various diseases myself for my own work, that's when I knew, I wasn't cut out to be a doctor lol


message 2: by Iset (new)

Iset The King's Concubine by Anne O'Brien and The People's Queen by Vanora Bennett - both about Alice Perrers. I've not read them myself, only heard about them. Not sure if they'd be to my tastes - both authors err on the side of historical romances. About Edward III himself though? No, I don't know any.


message 3: by Sharon (new)

Sharon Good point, Asghar. What research were you doing? Are you a writer, too?


message 4: by Asghar (new)

Asghar Abbas Oh yes, I am :) Actually, I was researching Bipolar for my second novel. Plath was one of my biggest influences and inspirations in that regard. Since the book's set in the early 1950s, I liked that it was called manic-depression then.

Leprosy is definitely still a serious concern. But I didn't know all the information you just posted, always good to know. Yes, I think as a whole, we have curbed the paranoia regarding this disease.

..............The difference is that we now have the means to treat it, whereas Baldwin had little to combat it besides prayer...........

This is very poignant.

I'm waiting for you to write a novel where Jane Shore is the main subject. She's one of my favorite historical figures. And you are one of my favorite, favorite writers.


message 5: by Iset (new)

Iset I don't think there will be a book like that. Sharon tends to focus on historical periods and cover them as comprehensively as possible with the people that populated them in one grand epic. Sometimes that means certain characters get less page space because there were simply more dominant figures stealing the limelight. Sharon isn't an author to retread ground or do the same period and location again but from a different character's perspective.

Personally, I appreciate it, even if it means some historical figures have bit parts. Seems like there's been a lot of historical authors recently, who shall remain nameless, who've squeezed out five books from the exact same events only writing each one from a different character POV. I find that to be a bit of a dull rehash, if not far worse - things which I shall hold my tongue on.


message 6: by Asghar (new)

Asghar Abbas Iset wrote: "I don't think there will be a book like that. Sharon tends to focus on historical periods and cover them as comprehensively as possible with the people that populated them in one grand epic. Someti..."

haha, I love this comment. Of course, you are right and spot on. But one can wish , right? I just loved the Jane Shore bit in Sunne in Splendour.


message 7: by Sharon (new)

Sharon I really liked Jane Shore, as you can tell from my portrayal. The writer wields a lot of power in how we depict lesser-known characters; we labor under more constraints when dealing with famous historical figures. We do not know much about Jane, so I felt free to follow my instincts. But Iset is right. I try not to go backwards. Also, there is not enough known about her to flesh out a novel in which she was the major character. I'd have to draw upon my imagination beyond the point where I'd feel comfortable.
I've always found Syvlia Plath to be a very interesting woman. Does she actually appear in your novel, Asghar? Would you feel comfortable telling us more about your novels? Are they all set in contemporary times?


message 8: by Asghar (new)

Asghar Abbas Sharon wrote: "I really liked Jane Shore, as you can tell from my portrayal. The writer wields a lot of power in how we depict lesser-known characters; we labor under more constraints when dealing with famous his..."

I agree, because of your fondness for Jane Shore, she seemed more appealing to me. I liked her more because of it. Love that tub scene, that was very humanizing. Indeed, I have a soft spot in my heart for lesser-known characters and gentle monsters esp those distorted by history. Oh, absolutely. We must move forward, never backwards, never.

Oh, I adore Sylvia Plath's work, especially Ariel, the unabridged version. Gosh, no. She doesn't appear in my novel. I wish. I don't think I am skilled enough or confident enough to feature a historical figure. But that's an interesting idea, if I ever did do something with it, then I'd like it to be the way it was done in Immortality by Milan Kundera. So surreal and trippy. Have you read it?

Sure, I'd love to talk about my novels :) Are they all set in contemporary times? Well, sort of. See, my first novel was published in 2008 and it was set around 1999. It's basically about series of events that occur in a single day. It was a homage to Quentin Tarantino, with the nonlinear ending, twist and everything lol I titled it Wave of a Dark Ocean. It was released as Beyond Desire. You know how things get skewed in the publishing world :)

My second and current novel is called Mélancolie and as I mentioned before, it starts off in the 1940s/50s. It is a bit meandering novel, in the vein of Hemingway, Kerouac, Puzo where I try to explore the 60s and the 70s too. The book ends in 1974. It's about war. I tried to look at it from many angles. It's about a man, a woman, and a child, a girl, her name is. Mélancolie. They are a family but she is not their daughter. It's about an island. Not unlike the island in Henning Mankell's hauntingly beautiful novel Depths. An Island of chance encounters, island of hope, island of peace, island of illicit despair, and eventually an island of madness.

This book more than any other is heavily influenced by Poe, Martin, and um well, You :) Though of course it's not a historical novel, but I have tried to make it as fantastical as I could without actually turning it into a fantasy novel.

I have been trying to come with a prose of my own for well over sixteen years now. I think I got it now and the best way of describing how I write would be a mixture of Gothic genre and magic realism. It can be bit purple and overwrought, but writers can only work with the style they are comfortable with.

Lastly, The Sunne in Splendour is a personal favorite. Every time I read it, I learn something new and marvel at the expanse and depth of it. And thank you.


message 9: by RJay (new)

RJay Edward III played a significant role in a book I read recently; however, it was implied he had pedophile tendences which I found appalling. I'll not mention the title of the book for obvious reasons.

A "What If" having to do with EIII ... what if his son Edward had not gone to war on behalf of Pedro the Cruel? If he had lived to become king, would the Wars of the Roses been avoided and so many needless deaths prevented?


message 10: by Sharon (new)

Sharon That is a good What If. Unanswerable, of course, and we cannot be sure if the Black Prince would have been a good king, though it is likely he'd have been a better one than his son.


message 11: by RJay (new)

RJay That's my contention. I think Edward III was a good mentor for Edward BP. Unfortunately, I suspect RII was raised somewhat spoiled and entitled with no mentor during his formative years - no time to develop any sort of wisdom.


message 12: by Sharon (new)

Sharon Your second novel is a historical novel, though, Asghar. It is not set today, so ergo, that makes it historical. :-) I am impressed by your "role models," too. I also like your description of your writing as a blend of gothic and magic realism.


message 13: by Asghar (new)

Asghar Abbas Sharon wrote: "Your second novel is a historical novel, though, Asghar. It is not set today, so ergo, that makes it historical. :-) I am impressed by your "role models," too. I also like your description of your ..."

Haha, fantastic. I have always considered my second novel to be a bit fantastical, historical in scope at least. Makes me happy, you saying that. Thank you, so many great writers, and I am not just saying this including you have helped me, will always be grateful to such amazing talents. I think I have mentioned it before, Larry Brown is also one of my favorites. He is , well was, no doubt modern day Faulkner.


message 14: by Iset (new)

Iset You know, whilst we're wishing for book subjects... I can't help but wonder if Sharon has heard in passing of William I of Orange.

Born in the 16th century to impoverished Protestant Dutch nobles, he was raised Catholic at the Spanish court as boon companion to the future Philip II and had honours heaped upon him by Charles V. Trusted as a member of the inner circle, he was appointed as Governor of the Spanish Netherlands, where he grappled with the religious intolerance of the Spanish and angry Dutch nobles wanted to make him Statdholder and leader of an independence movement. William tried to negotiate a diplomatic outcome, but Philip felt betrayed and so kidnapped his eldest son from university in Holland and held hostage in Spain - William became leader of a rebellion and converted to Protestantism. There were mass uprisings, terrible battles and slaughters that ensued, and William gained funding from Queen Elizabeth I in England.

Philip was so furious he issued an explicit and publication assassination bounty on William, and in 1581 a young man met with William, ostensibly to discuss a petition, but in reality fired a handgun at him. The youth had packed the gun with too much powder, however, and it exploded in his hand, killing him. Part of William's jaw was blown away, but he lived. However, two years later a man who had infiltrated his household as a trusted retainer was able to take another shot at him, killing him. William was the first head of state ever to be assassinated with a handgun, and his death shocked contemporaries (not least in England, who feared their queen would be next). The Dutch were furious and inflicted a truly gruesome death upon the assassin - carried out over several days of torture.

Erudite, practical, tolerant... William sounds like just the sort of man that fascinates, well, me, and I thought perhaps you too, knowing your proclivities, Sharon. He never saw a truly independent Netherlands in his lifetime, but he is considered the father of the Dutch nation, and he is the ancestor of both Dutch and British royal families.


message 15: by Luisa (last edited Jun 25, 2017 06:23PM) (new)

Luisa I haven't come across any books about Edward III, only the two about Alice Perrers that have been mentioned. I did read both but I don't recall much about either, other than they did fall on the more romance side than historical fiction. They were decent reads good for the beach or cottage.


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