Sibling Rivalry

Salman Khan - Mankind was presumably unable to produce "anything like" a certain portion of the Qur'an, thus proving it is the word of Allah. Is that a valid claim?

Whether some text is “like” some other text is obviously subjective. If there is no objective method to determine that one text is like another text, then the claim must be false. Does this not therefore prove the opposite of what is claimed?

Muhammad Rasheed - All you'd have to do is pull the bulleted known facts from the Qur'an's history and use them as a checklist, seeking to duplicate the Qur'an by matching the conditions that produced it. This would be a reasonably objective contest despite the Questioner's complaints.

For example, the Qur'an was:

1.) preached from the mouth of an illiterate man with no formal schooling at all.
2.) revealed in a single segmented draft over a 22 year period into a completed work without revisions.
3.) preached by a man who was known by all who knew him best as being so honest, his nickname was "the trustworthy."
4.) received with such reverence, that everyone moved by it would immediately commit the verses to memory.
5.) recognized by friend and critics alike as being a magnificent work of Muhammad's native language... so much so that it elevated Arabic to a language of high literature and inspired generations of poets, artists, scientists, etc.

Duplicate these clearly miraculous conditions to also produce such a work, and you will have met the challenge of the One God of Abraham, Author of the Holy Qur'an.

Shmuel Beckerman - The challenge was only for Arab pagans though. Why is it that the majority of Jews and Christians are unimpressed by the Qur’an? Especially Arabian Jews who saw all of the flaws, inconsistencies, and contradictions in Qur’anic content and simply laughed at Muhammad and quickly rejected him. From the Jewish perspective, Muhammad spread monotheism to non-Jews, and soon the whole world will be united in serving God together as the Jews lead the way. Christianity and Islam are dependent on Judaism, but Judaism is independent of both.

Muhammad Rasheed - 1.) The challenge was for any and all disbelievers who doubted the fact that Muhammad (pbuh) really was the messenger of Allah, and that the Qur'an was indeed revealed by Him.

2.) The majority of Jews and Christians are unimpressed by the Qur’an because they are either ignorant of it, or disingenuous and arrogant.

3.) The Arabian Jews famously covenanted with Muhammad along with the other Yathrib tribal leaders, and later betrayed the prophet resulting in an intense humiliation that is now recorded in history to their shame. There is NO excuse for one who proclaims belief in the One God of Abraham to side with savage pagans against another believer in that same One God. The faux-critiques of the Jews, in the form of "kidnapped rabbis" and denying his illiteracy, gave away the true reasons behind their rejection of the Qur'an. It was no less than ethnic sibling rivalry, and a younger brother's pouting in his false belief that he holds some kind of monopoly over the special favor of Allah.

4.) Allah Himself perfected Al-Islam for humanity, and since He is the Source, the Muslim is dependent upon the One God alone. Your empty arrogance is showing again. I suggest you check it, and bow down to the Lord thy God and give Him the Glory that you seem to covet for yourself.

Shmuel Beckerman - Your second point is ignorant, biased, arrogant, and insulting. The Jews in Muhammad’s time and today, were and are unimpressed by the Qur’an not because of its flowery, eloquent language and strict/pure monotheism. Jews admire Muhammad for spreading monotheism to pagans, but he claimed he was a prophet for the Jews, openly contradicted the Torah, and slaughtered them like the violent fool that he was! Judaism was an ancient religion even in the 7th century, and the Jews had their established scripture! Had Muhammad left the Jews alone he would never have faced rejection! What an idiot. A power hungry, obsessive, maniacal warlord and control freak who’s best audience was the Arab pagans and no one else. And of course even they rejected him, he was a real outcast and a loser with low self esteem in his own abilities. Initially, he refused to believe he was a prophet himself!

He sabotaged his cause and shot himself in the foot by seeking their approval and caused his own problems. But even if he was rejected he should have taken it like a man, sucked it up and moved on. He didn’t because his character/personality was weak. What a lousy role model, the best example for all Muslims.

Therefore, Muhammad was arrogant, narcissistic, and stupid enough to intrude on the religious beliefs of other people. Muhammad accomplished an amazing feat by spreading monotheism to pagans and that’s undeniable but he was an utter, and total fool in other ways.

He was utterly stupid to assert that he was a prophet to the Jews, and openly contradict the Torah, while they read the Torah in their daily lives to disprove him. Jews strictly and firmly believe Moses is the last prophet, so Muhammad’s teachings contradict the Torah and don’t confirm it as he arrogantly claimed. Thus, the Jews didn’t accept him for legitimate reasons of faith and certainly not for the ignorant, biased and arrogant reasons you stated which are insults to the Jews.

The Torah is for the Jews and the Qur’an is for the Muslims. Muhammad was an insecure, narcissistic, hypocrite who couldn’t leave well enough alone. He needed an ego boost from the Jews to confirm him as a prophet, he needed their approval which says a lot about his true character! He couldn’t handle rejection and he had an inferiority complex among other mental issues.

He slaughtered Jews because they refused to accept him as a true prophet for their own reasons and that offended his fragile ego, what a damn, pathetic shame! He was a walking, talking contradiction. And Muslims who say he was humble, kind and the best of humans or best of creations are lying. If he was the best example for Islamic behavior, its clear why many Muslims are walking, talking contradictions themselves. He spread monotheism to pagans but he was certainly not a good person. He was a violent false prophet.

Muhammad Rasheed - This new post of yours functions as little more than a tantrum, the details of which conflict with the facts of history.

1.) The Jews of Muhammad's day – specifically the three major tribes of Yathrib – covenanted with him and agreed to aid the prophet in exchange for (among other things) mediation between the groups of that city. They even said they recognized him as the messenger, and betrayed him later.

2.) The One God of Abraham is EVERYONE'S God; He's the Lord of all those who agree to worship Him and accept the message of His prophets as true, and the Qur'an is for all of mankind. Don't pretend that there is anything left of the original revealed scripture of Moses left in the scrolls you carry, since we BOTH know better. The Jews hold no monopoly over Allah's favor... the "chosen people" concept as they hold onto it is a fiction. Allah promised the patriarchs that because of their own individual unflinching righteousness and good service, He would make their progeny more numerous than the stars in the sky. This fact alone is responsible for Allah's enormous amounts of Self-Restraint in the face of the children of Israel's continuous betrayals and disrespect during the Exodus journey. Not because they themselves were anointed as specially favored. No. The leaders of the Jews early on made up their own rules, and decided on their own they would no longer accept the prophets who were raised up to admonish them as true. They attacked and slaughtered Allah's messengers from among their own nation, as well as those from alien ethnic groups, so it should be no surprise that they would attack the final prophet who was raised up from the nation of their oldest rivals. There is only one reason, and one reason only that they reject the Qur'an. Bile-fueled jealousy.

3.) "Leaving the Jews alone" was not an option, as it was the prophet's job to preach the message of God to whomsoever he was instructed to preach it to by that very same God. Perhaps you have grown overused to playing loose & free with the narrative of sacred scripture, until you somehow believe the prophets could do whatever they wanted? Know you that they were NOT in charge. Only Allah is in charge, and it is your job to listen to what the Lord thy God commands and obey Him. God is NOT your peer, and His messengers were His agents to be obeyed, not maligned and killed because they did not aid and abet your foolishness. When you attacked and disobeyed the prophets, you attacked and disobeyed God Himself.

4.) The Banu Qurayza slaughtered themselves by siding with the pagan enemy of fellow believers in the One God, lying about it, and refusing to repent once they were called out. Hard-hearted, prideful, and stubborn until the end, they refused to repent of their wrong and preferred the ultimate humiliation instead. Note that both the Banu Nadir and the Banu Qaynuqa were allowed to leave with their lives after they wisely decided to repent, thus demonstrating it was pride alone that ended the treacherous lives of the Qurayza, not Muhammad.

5.) So he was both power hungry and had low self-esteem? lol Which was it? Do you all ever try to make sense? In his lifetime, Muhammad prevailed over the enemies of God, consolidated the tribes of Arabia, and ended his days as the prophet-king of the peninsula, leaving behind a strong and growing body of believers that would go on to conquer nearly the entire Old World. Because of this, all of your talk of 'rejection' and 'his problems' comes across as babbling nonsense. I did notice that his enemies (particularly anyone within the body of believers who were only pretending to be Muslim as they worked their way to positions of power) waited until after the messenger of Allah was safely away from the material realm before they worked their revenge schemes.

6.) A random Jew on the Internet called Muhammad a 'fool,' yet the Lord thy God said, within His enduring scripture of the ages, that the prophet was indeed of most excellent character, a sublime believer whose behavior He commanded we all emulate (especially you). Which one of you should I believe then?  ;)

Shujaur Rehman - Also insert the so called ‘violent verses’ in a book which are often quoted in the case of islam by it’s critics(out of context ofcourse) to assert their understanding of it being a violent cult responsible for almost all the unrest in the world today and then try to seek followers of that ideology like over 2 billion(and growing) in the case of this faith let’s see how many one is able to garner…that an illiterate bedouin who lived in Arabia over 1400 yrs ago has been able to do so(allegedly)makes him a time tested genius that none can even try to emulate

Muhammad Rasheed - 1.) Muhammad's genius was that he threw all his chips in with the One God and completely submitted his whole will to Him, just as his ancestor Abraham did (peace be upon the messengers). The prophet had the brilliant idea to bet it all on the One who made him, and was rewarded in this life with the prophethood anointing. The Qur'an itself is the work of Allah, not Muhammad, hence why no human will be able to match its feat.

2.) The 'war verses' of the Qur'an are defensive in nature.

3.) The unrest in the world has nothing to do with Al-Islam, and is in fact part of the extended legacy of European colonialism, and the diabolical machinations of Western intelligence agencies and their mega-corporation partners. Wake up, please.