No escaping the Tudors

Many of you know I don’t do much posting about those ubiquitous Tudors, who already enjoy a Hollywood monopoly, though in fairness, Hollywood was not to blame for the atrocious series, The Tudors. But it is impossible to ignore their annoying dynasty this week. On the 25th, Henry and Anne Boleyn were finally wed, surely one of history’s most accursed unions, not only for them but for the millions of Henry’s subjects whose lives and faith were turned upside down because of his illicit passion for Anne. Today was the birthdate of Henry VII in 1157 and the death date in 1547 of his son, Henry VIII. And tomorrow is the anniversary of the day in 1536 when Anne miscarried of a son. The Spanish ambassador, Chapuys, put it succinctly when he commented, “She has miscarried of her savior.” I personally think that even if she’d given Henry the son he was so desperate to have, her time as queen would have been limited, for Henry had already turned against her and his roving eye settled upon Jane Seymour. But there is no doubt that this miscarriage led to her execution at the Tower just four months later. And as improbable as it seems, the miscarriage that doomed Anne occurred on the very day that her rival and predecessor, Catherine of Aragon, was buried at Peterborough Abbey. No novelist would have dare to invent that, just as no novelist would have dared to invent an eclipse of the sun on the day of Anne Neville’s death or any of the bizarre coincidences and occurrences that cropped up so often in the lives of the Plantagenets and Tudors. I leave the last word to my favorite American writer, the incomparable Mark Twain, who explained that “Truth is stranger than Fiction, but it is because Fiction is obliged to stick to possibilities; Truth isn’t.”
And we have lost another talented actor, John Hurt. He had a highly successful career, but I will always remember him for his heartbreaking performance in one of the most powerful films I’ve ever seen, The Elephant Man.
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Published on January 28, 2017 14:35
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message 1: by Iset (new)

Iset Oh, The Tudors. Just the latest in insupportable portrayals. I did watch it at the time it aired, I admit. A history lover is in a difficult position when it comes to visual media. It comes along so rarely that I want to consume it, but so often I will be dissatisfied with the inaccuracies. I do wish there was more historical media and also that there was greater fidelity and accuracy therein.


message 2: by Sharon (new)

Sharon Amen, Iset.


message 3: by Gretchen (new)

Gretchen I binge watched The Tudors when I was pregnant with my oldest child. The fact that she's an Elizabeth might be a result of my viewing choices. If only the child had been a redhead like her mother.


message 4: by Sharon (new)

Sharon Elizabeth I do like, Gretchen. I consider her the only good Tudor. :-)


message 5: by Iset (new)

Iset Elizabeth has this great intelligence combined with this quixotic charisma about her; she's definitely a wonderful historical figure.

I've been wondering about her half-brother Edward, recently. Often overlooked, of course, but by all accounts he was as precocious as her, and his marvellous diaries reveal (especially towards the end of his short life) an emerging set of strong opinions. I can't decide if he would have been as great a ruler as Elizabeth, or if he would've been much more of a militant Protestant. I'm curious - what do you think, Sharon? It's intriguing to think he may have been an enlightened ruler if only he'd lived, but I know history too well, and realistically I think he would've turned out quite militant, to the detriment of those unfortunately set against him.


message 6: by Sharon (new)

Sharon I am not that knowledgeable about him, Iset. From what I've read, I do think he embraced a more militant Protestant faith than Elizabeth did, and zealotry always makes me nervous, in whatever cause. Also I cannot imagine his accomplishments could have equaled Elizabeth's,


message 7: by Iset (new)

Iset Indeed. I know you wouldn't go near the Tudors with a barge pole, Sharon, but I must confess to being caught up in the fascination myself. It's hard to deny the draw of someone like Elizabeth, of course, but Henry VIII evokes a kind of morbid curiosity. His life reminds me of Gaius Julius Caesar's life - this notion of absolute power corrupting. Caesar of course famously stood up to the dictator Sulla in his youth, and Henry was lauded as handsome and dashing and educated, interested in the new ideas of the Renaissance. Of course both men got caught up in a corrosive need for more and more power and tales end in tragedy. For me at least, I think it is quite clear that Henry created a fiction to tell the outside world that perpetually painted him as the victim whenever things went wrong... and it's very chilling to think of the cold way in which he quite obviously simply decided to tell these lies, tell this story, even when he and all around him knew differently. Makes me shudder to think of it. Very horrible indeed.


message 8: by Sharon (new)

Sharon I will concede that they were a colorful dynasty, Iset; no one can deny that. But I most definitely would not have wanted to live under the rule of any of them, even Elizabeth, whom I do like. Henry became quite frightening in his later years, irrational even. And Mary's religious zealotry was scary in itself.


message 9: by Iset (new)

Iset I dread to think what was going on in Henry's head. Mary's too. Guilt and justifications, most like. I can't imagine either were very happy with their lives.

Well, I hope for a Medieval event to be marked soon!


message 10: by Sharon (new)

Sharon I agree, Iset. Mary's life was very sad, thanks in large measure to her heartless father, and Henry became paranoid and somewhat deranged in his later years, at least IMHO!


message 11: by Anne (new)

Anne I have never liked Henry VIII and having now just finished a book about Margaret Pole and what her extended Plantagenet family suffered during his riegn I like him even less. I found the book not an easy read


message 12: by Sharon (new)

Sharon What happened to Margaret Pole was an atrocity, Anne.


message 13: by Ivana (new)

Ivana The Tudors were interesting characters and their time certainly provides a lot of material for historical fiction, so it's not a surprise that there is so much HF about them.

What I do find surprising and a little baffling, however, is that there is so much more about them, especially in visual media, than about any other period of English history (not to mention history of other countries) and why equally interesting and turbulent periods of English history, full of equally colorful and controversial historical figures, get so ignored. Why is their period supposed to be so much more interesting than the Conquest, or the Anarchy, or the Wars of the Roses, or the Civil War...? One of the reasons I enjoyed The Last Kingdom is that there's finally a TV show about a period in English history that is far less often covered (though there's also Vikings, which cover a close historical period and subject matter though from another perspective).

I can only think that it's a matter of industry laziness and adversity to risk-taking. Movies and shows about Henry VIII or Elizabeth have worked before, so let's have more of the same.


message 14: by Ivana (new)

Ivana Sharon wrote: "Elizabeth I do like, Gretchen. I consider her the only good Tudor. :-)"

I've always found Elizabeth I a fascinating figure.

I have an impression that she had a lot in common with her great-grandfather Edward IV in the way they both seem to have preferred to avoid executions, killing and severe punishments when they were not necessary, and liked to make people love them rather than fear them, but were still capable of being absolutely ruthless when it was necessary and when their royal authority was undermined and their throne really at stake. Would you agree with that assessment?


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