Debunking the Debunking: Yes, the GOP is Racist

Muhammad Rasheed -


Kirb Brimstone - Debunking the "Parties Switched" Myth

Kirb Brimstone - Reagan switched parties in 1962.

Republican Party Platform in 1960:

"We pledge:
The Department of Justice will continue its vigorous support of court orders for school desegregation. Desegregation suits now pending involve at least 39 school districts. Those suits and others already concluded will affect most major cities in which school segregation is being practiced.

It will use the new authority provided by the Civil Rights Act of 1960 to prevent obstruction of court orders.

We will propose legislation to authorize the Attorney General to bring actions for school desegregation in the name of the United States in appropriate cases, as when economic coercion or threat of physical harm is used to deter persons from going to court to establish their rights.

Our continuing support of the President's proposal, to extend federal aid and technical assistance to schools which in good faith attempted to desegregate.

We oppose the pretense of fixing a target date 3 years from now for the mere submission of plans for school desegregation. Slow-moving school districts would construe it as a three-year moratorium during which progress would cease, postponing until 1963 the legal process to enforce compliance. We believe that each of the pending court actions should proceed as the Supreme Court has directed and that in no district should there be any such delay."

Kirb Brimstone - But you know... Internet memes.

Kirb Brimstone - Can you tell me when the parties switched?

Muhammad Rasheed - Kirb, what do you believe you just corrected? Your link acknowledges that the KKK was birthed from the democrat party. And I pulled that quote from Reagan's 1988 RNC speech. So how is the meme inaccurate? Because of your Reagan worship?

Kirb Brimstone - Reagan left the Democratic Party for the Republican Party at a time when Republicans undoubtedly where the Civil Rights party. So it doesn't make any sense (if the implications of the meme are to be taken seriously) that Reagan left one party that only paid lip service to desegregation (after it had been written into law by Eisenhower). He supported Nixon who actually enforced desegregation (something JFK or LBJ never did).

I showed you what the Republican party platform was at that time. So Reagan decided to switch parties to a party that was actively trying to pass Civil rights law?

So the truth is Reagan switched parties for the reason he said he switch parties he felt the Democrats were too lenient on communists. Right or wrong that is why he switched. He feared that the Democrats would allow America to slide towards communism. If he was anti civil rights/anti-black the wise thing for him to do in1960's it support two senators who fought vigorously against civil rights in the Senate AKA JFK and LBJ (voted against Eisenhower's 1957 Civil Rights Act.)

Kirb Brimstone - My point is that the party switch is a myth that no historian subscribes to. It keeps being brought up on internet memes and comedy television shows (The Daily Show) but I've never heard a liberal tell me when this happened.

I don't like when people propagate lies in support of their agenda I don't like poorly researched opinions. You should know that by now.

Muhammad Rasheed - Wait, what part are you saying is the myth? That the Black community didn't move from GOP to Democrat?

Kirb Brimstone - Sure black people began moving towards to the Dem party since 1910. But that doesn't mean the Demo started championing black people or cut ties with the KKK.

Go back and listen to Malcolm X's speech 'Political Chumps' that I have posted to many times to count.

Maybe then you'll understand his frustration with black people supporting the Dems in '64.

He warned that JFK and LBJ (senators with anti-civil rights voting history) was only paying lip service to civil rights for votes.

That's why Nixon called JFK out on Civil rights in their debate.

Muhammad Rasheed - So you admit that Blacks DID switch parties, and that it wasn't a myth after all?

Kirb Brimstone - If the black community supporting a party is the indicator of that party being the civil rights party and the other party being against civil rights then do you believe that the Dems were the party of civil rights back in 1942? How about 1938? Black overwhelmingly voted Dem back then.

Muhammad Rasheed - The parties are run by the people. It doesn't matter what the parties' official mission statements and charters say, it's what work and goals the people themselves move the communities towards. The GOP isn't about their platform charter, they're about White male identity. If pro-Black people are the majority members of a given party, then yes, that party is now "pro-Black." The opposite is also true.

Muhammad Rasheed - Are there Whites in the Democratic party that hate Black people? Sure there are. But the GOP is overwhelmingly attracting racists and an anti-Black mindset.

That's not a myth.

Kirb Brimstone - Sigh. Okay Rasheed.