A Religious Discussion - Soliciting a Believer's Opinion

Ali Rashada - I have a question for my friend, Muhammad Rasheed. Since you are a Muslim and have spent time in a predominately Muslim country, are you able to explain the mindset and conversations that take place between people you know and meet, when supposed Muslims kill other Muslims in what we call terrorist attacks? Is there a call for Muslim governments to join the fight for what is 'right'? Why does it seem that Muslim countries aren't helping each other to eradicate what we in the west see as terrorism?

Muhammad Rasheed - The 'terrorist attacks' come from outside infiltrators, designed to keep the Muslim world from pooling their resources and becoming an effective rival power to Western European Global Supremacy. So that the Euro-ethnic groups & allies may maintain their cartel of dominance, an elaborate plan of keeping the Muslim nations in a continuous state of war torn strife & confusion has been unleashed upon them, starting after a detailed analysis of The Six-Day War (1967) was conducted.

Prior to The Six-Day War, the western powers assumed that they would be able to run over those nations relatively easily, using the hi-tech might at their command. Even though western allies technically won the war, the allies received far more casualties and damage than they expected, with the Arab nations proving far more canny on the battle field. Consequently, they decided to use a tactic that would keep the Muslim world battling itself, as opposed to directing that energy towards their true enemies. What you see going on over their today -- unprecedented in history -- is in fact the culmination of decades of manipulation from the western world's intelligence agencies and allied powers.

Me being a Muslim, having spent time in a Muslim country, and having had discussions with the locals, I find that any "terrorist" leaning talks are very political and are completely divorced from the religious tenants in any way. Under the background described above, there can be no governmental call for what is 'right,' since the governments have been infiltrated by outsiders interested in only what is 'wrong.' This has been going on for generations now, and the people are becoming more and more indoctrinated into what their sophisticated enemy wants them to be. As a Muslim, it's very sad to watch them being yanked to & fro by their puppet master enemies in this way, especially since they are not inclined to listen to yet another westerner telling them what they should do.

Ali Rashada - So in the Six-Day War, you are talking about the Arabic countries in a war against Israel, funded and armed by the US, and the European nations who supported the creation of Israel. Does this mean you believe the attackers are foreign nationals in most cases, or brainwashed Muslims, or European or American citizens employed by the intelligence agencies, or D all of the above?

Muhammad Rasheed - Brainwashed Muslims.

The western intelligence agencies trained up generations of Muslim kids in terrorist tactics & mindsets -- from a playbook that has a foundation in tactics developed by the secular Tamil Tigers group -- through aggressive recruiting efforts that in the beginning, was done by foreign agents in disguise.

Ali Rashada - I could ask almost any question about Muslim choices and the result upon the country, as most Americans would; but currently residing in Australia, I am also able to see almost the exact same result in America (see popularity of Donald Trump, and mass shootings) which is just as Christian as North Africa and the Arabian Peninsula are Muslim, and think we could agree, if we were open minded, religion in itself cannot be the answer. I mean "zealots" of all faiths seem empowered to deny the rights of others, when obeying the will of God. I see the same atrocities Americans perpetrate, and worse, by the wealthy Muslim princes, and there is a falseness among the wealthy, and their feigned devotion to religion over the pleasures and excess of life.

Muhammad Rasheed - In order to jump on board that train, you would first have to show me the verses in the source texts that support these items you insist are the fault of religion. If you cannot, and assuredly ye cannot, then the fault is ever only with the people who wanted to commit this mischief in the earth.

In other words, if they were actually obeying the will of God, then none of these problems would exist. That was my point in explaining that the 'terrorist' speak of the locals is always 100% political, and divorced from the tenants of any faith they claim to subscribe to in that conspicuously compartmentalized part of their lives.

Ali Rashada - I guess then it boils down to, the compulsion provided by the Abrahamic religions do not have the full effects one would hope for, in modifying the behavior of its adherents towards peaceful ends, nor do they seem to protect society by restraining those who seem to be in position of authority and operational wisdom.

Muhammad Rasheed - From that same logic you could just as seriously make the claim that, because there is a criminal element present in modern society, civilization itself has proven to be a failure and should be discarded.

The message of God lets every individual know that his/her actions will have ultimate consequences and that there will be a Final Accounting on the day of resurrection. Reward & Punishment will be issued out accordingly. Whether people personally decide to heed this information is up to them, and whether they do or not... in whatever numbers... has nothing to do with the validity of the religion that holds this message. Honestly I don't understand the logic of you all's thinking on this topic.

Ali Rashada - Yes but the Supreme Creator would exhibit traits contrary to the scenario you describe, if that is true.

Muhammad Rasheed - I find it impossible to take seriously a human telling me what an Omnipotent, Omniscient Superior Being would or would not do, as if he had been given some special divine insight into how the only truly unique being in all of reality would/should behave.

He told you how He behaves in His scripture.

Ali Rashada - Ah ha! Now I see the problem. You read a book, printed by a company, dictated by a man, over a thousand years ago, and believe it is the most recent, and authoritative communication from the creator of all life, to all humans for all of time.... excluding the other "scriptures" that other groups of human believe the same thing about. Yeah, I don't do that.

Muhammad Rasheed - He was kind enough to explain that the other scriptures were also from Him, and He is the only God. There is only one message: Believe in Him, do good, reject evil.

You SHOULD do this. If you choose to continue not believing, that is your Free Will in action. Enjoy it as you like, for as long as it lasts.

Ali Rashada - Just so I understand your viewpoint on this, can I communicate directly with my creator, or do I have to rely on books written more than 1300 years ago? And you think that creating a being with free will and decision, and punishing it infinitely if its operation does not conform to the creators ideals, shows more " scope, force, insight, awareness, knowledge, plans, foresight," than just creating being that just does what it is told...really? What is the need for punishment? If your creation doesn't do what you intend, why not just un-create and try again, although being perfect, the creator should be able to create anything it wants. Following that logic, at some level, the creator you describe must want to punish some living being, because his omnipotence would tell him upon their creation that they would not suffice, yet they are forced to play their role and take their due punishment at the end? Wow, that's depressing

Muhammad Rasheed –

The Holy Qur'an 42:51
“It is not fitting for a man that Allah should speak to him except by inspiration, or from behind a veil, or by the sending of a messenger to reveal, with Allah's permission, what Allah wills: for He is Most High, Most Wise.”

Muhammad Rasheed - God said it is "not fitting" to speak directly to humans, and that He only does so by inspiration, from "behind a veil," or by sending an angel to reveal. The canon of His message is closed now; He's revealed everything that He needs us to know about our existence. Under what justification would He need to send you a special inspiration? For what?

Ali Rashada - Yeah, I'm just a servant to the will of the creator, why would he care what I have to say, think or feel? Its funny, when I speak to people like you (of many different religions) I feel like that strange kid in the movies. You know the one where there is some old creepy house on the corner, and everybody says the owner is some old, crazy guy who eats kids. Then one day, the loner meets the guy in the house and he is actually a cool, and funny guy who would do anything to help his friends and loved ones, but nobody believes it. Well, I'm that kid, God is the old man, and you are a neighborhood kid who has been too scared to meet the old man and see what he's really like, because you believe the stories of others.

Muhammad Rasheed - 1.) Why do you think you have any special insight to offer God? It would be like talking to a one year old; it's adorable because they think they are really saying stuff. I'm just going to toss that into your arrogant "Why would God...?" line of questioning bag.

2.) You may feel that way all you wish, but you actually come across like a hellbound pagan, who somehow believes he is the peer to The One. I advise you to repent. This path will not turn out the way you think. At this point in the discussion, there is no way I would believe you actually talk to God on any kind of level ever. Everything you've written sounds quite removed.

3.) God is ONE. He's not an 'old man.' The comparison is offensive.

Ali Rashada - Yeah, but I'm saying I have a personal relationship with my creator, and you're saying its not possible...because some 1300 year old book told you so, so you are even afraid to try. At this point, you have nothing useful to teach because you can only prove how much of another man's words you have memorized. You don't speak from experience, but fear, and belief in what you read. in my experience I have met many people who have tried to tell me what my relationship with another will be like... yeah, whatever.

Muhammad Rasheed - I'm open-minded enough to be willing to believe you've tapped into a relationship with SOMETHING. Is it the Lord of the worlds, the Supreme Creator of the heavens and the earth? No, or you would not talk this way. You sound exactly like those who will earn His wrath and there's no truth or spiritual insight in your words.

Have a good night, Ali. I hope I've managed to quench the thirst of all the questions you had for me in this shout-out post. Thanks for reaching out. Peace.

Ali Rashada - I call my creator - Father, Daddy, and my source and center, your belief changes nothing in our relationship. Thanks for very much for an enjoyable session    :)

Muhammad Rasheed - It wasn't lost on me that "daddy" was conspicuously absent from the 99 Attributes of God that He used to describe Himself in the Qur'an. I think He took that one off of the table because the Christians overstepped their bounds in the worst way by taking the term literally. God was obviously offended by the blatant insolence.