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Batman versus The Force

Batman versus Darth Vader - YouTube
Muhammad Rasheed - This was very fun, but the lightsaber battle lasted too long, I think. The problem is that when two Jedi fight, it isn't a sword fight, it's a Force fight; the Force partially controls their actions, remember? The skill involved has very little to do with melee weaponry mastery, but instead a battle of wills in mastery of Force demonstration. The Force, as wielded by Darth Vader, would've cut Batman the fuck in half.
Muhammad Rasheed - I WAS going to ask "How the hell did Batman & Superman even GET there?" but then I remembered it was DC. Obviously it was Pre-Crisis. 
Muhammad Rasheed - Also it must've been the original "jumps really high but can't fly, bullets sting a little" Superman they captured, right? The one that fought the "War of the Worlds" martians in that one story?
Jeremy Travis - Were you NOT paying attention? Vader couldn't use the Force during the battle because he was using to keep himself alive after the EMP knocked out his breathing apparatus. They even stated that in the resultant dialogue.
Muhammad Rasheed - You're referring to Batman's "Better focused on you than me" line, but Vader immediately activated his lightsaber and said Batman had underestimated him. 
So whatever. lol
Todd Holland - Yeah...I found this one laughably pathetic...Created by "Bat-Fanatics" who continually overestimate their billionaire ninja...Norms don't do well against force users especially one on one...They die,and die quickly The Nemoidian at 5:41 says it best. The Phantom Menace - Opening Scene
Jeremy Travis - No, Muhammad, I'm referring to Vader's "The Force will sustain me long enough". It's why Batman stood THAT much of a chance, and why Vader didn't just snap his neck like in the final scene, because all of his Force ability was focused on keeping his body working. It's also why, after he turned the apparatus back on, he no longer needed the light saber and went ape-shit on Bats.
John Sanford - I had a huge debate about this about 2 months ago when it first appeared. I argued successfully that a well-prepared Batman could have held Vader off until he could get to Superman. This film is made by Vader nerds who have no respect for Batman, or any real knowledge of what he could do.
John Sanford - It was a glorious nerd debate of epic proportions.
Jeremy Travis - As one can tell from my profile pic, I am a Batfan. However, I fully understand that he shouldn't be able to take everyone down in a face-to-face battle, no matter how well prepared he is. To do the Bat any kind of justice in defeating Vader, he'd have to SERIOUSLY overpower and weaken Vader from afar and over a period of time, while also staging a separate mission to free Supes in the mean time. This was clearly not supposed to be end with the Bat succeeding.
Muhammad Rasheed - Jeremy Travis wrote: "No, Muhammad, I'm referring to Vader's 'The Force will sustain me long enough.'"
It would sustain him long enough to kill Batman before he had to go have the techs fix that apparatus.
Jeremy Travis wrote: "It's why Batman stood THAT much of a chance..."
Batman DIDN'T stand that much of a chance. The writers just wanted to show that lightsaber battle.
Jeremy Travis wrote: "...and why Vader didn't just snap his neck like in the final scene, because all of his Force ability was focused on keeping his body working."
lol No, it's because the writers just wanted to show that lightsaber battle.
Jeremy Travis wrote: "It's also why, after he turned the apparatus back on, he no longer needed the light saber and went ape-shit on Bats."
The fact that he was using his lightsaber at all meant he should have destroyed Batman right then. The Force partially controls his actions -- the "energy field generated by all living things." That very energy field, that was propelling the saber blade, was also surrounding Batman, who didn't master the Force at all.
Batman cut in half.

BOOK REVIEW - The Complete Book of Swords

The Complete Book of Swords by Fred Saberhagen combines the main series of the author’s Sword Books together in one convenient and handy volume.  Taking place in the far future of one of his other popular series, it features magic in a fantasy setting, where remnants of technology from our era are found in the land the way relics from Atlantis would be in a traditional fantasy tale.

The titular swords are magic talisman’s of awesome force, and are the most powerful items in the story. Literally 'forged by the gods,' they function like characters themselves, with all the other characters desperately jockeying for position to capture the blades for their own political advantage. Personally I found the story to be somewhat dull unless the swords were in the scene, which would cause me to immediately perk up in excitement, especially when Saberhagen would introduce a new one. This basically functioned to manifest in me not particularly caring for the plot or the other characters; I just read it for the swords and their remarkable powers, which were as follows:
1.)  Townsaver , the Sword of Fury - Him what wields it is irresistible in battle. The spell activates whenever an enemy even threatens, and the sword will lash out and destroy the offending flesh. Its weakness is that it will do absolutely nothing to defend the one who is holding it other than keeping the wielder alive during the battle. Once all the enemies are dead, the wielder will probably succumb to the wounds that got through. You can kill a wielder of this sword by just keeping your distance and pumping arrows into him.

2.)  Sightblinder , the Sword of Stealth - The power of this sword only works if people don't know you have it. When the wielder of this sword approaches the unsuspecting, they will see the image of the person they know and trust the most AND COMPLETELY BELIEVE IT IS HIM/HER even when reality dictates that it should not be. For example, if the person you know and trust the most is your grandfather that's who you will see and believe it to be even if your grandfather's been dead for 8 years. The spell affects the mind on a DEEP level. It's weakness is that once the spell is broken (by the wielder being disarmed or whatever) it will never fool you again while THAT person is the wielder, but various images of people will flicker over and over like somebody was messing with the Sightblinder remote and channel surfing.

3.)  Dragonslicer , the Sword of Heroes - This is the lamest of the swords to me, despite the cool name. It works the same as a mix between Townsaver and Shieldbreaker except only with dragons. So it's just a sharp pretty blade unless a dragon shows up.  What if you live in a world without dragons?

4.)  Shieldbreaker , the Sword of Force - Him what wields it is invincible in battle. Shieldbreaker works the same way Townsaver does but with 2 differences: a) the destructo/kill spell will only activate if your opponents are armed. So if you are surrounded by a legion of unarmed Wing Chun-expert assassins you'd better be REALLY good with your sword skills, because Shieldbreaker is not going to help you. b) Shieldbreaker includes super-defense within its spell, so it will not only kill every armed opponent who dares stray within reach, but it will slice arrows out of the air, break sword blades and smash through shields in order to cut deep into the soft flesh beneath. Other than needing your opponents to be armed for the spell to work, Shieldbreaker’s only other 'weakness' if you want to call it that, is that it will never stop killing until all the enemies are dead. Even if an army 1,000,000 strong attacks. Once they are all dead, however, the wielder will probably die from exhaustion or a heart attack.

5.)  Woundhealer , the Sword of Mercy - This is not a "sword" really. Not in function. The spell on it makes it heal all wounds. Period. It is impossible to injure someone with it. Attempts in this regard will only make the enemy more and more able to kick your @$$. It has regrown severed limbs, cured diseases, etc.

6.)  Stonecutter , the Sword of Siege - The spell activates whenever it comes close to any kind of stone/rock. Then it instantly carves into it like you were using a light saber to cut into some bread.

7.)  Wayfinder , the Sword of Wisdom - This is my personal favorite sword of power. It's friggin' awesome. Once you pick it up, it will instantly know what your greatest desire is (even if you don't know yourself!), and will point the way to all the places, objects and people that you will need to achieve your end goal. It's only weakness really is that you have no idea how long it will take to get to this goal because most of the time you have no idea why the sword brought you here or what this fat guy with the cigar can possibly help you with, or what you are going to use this stupid cup for, etc. You just have to trust it. But it will never lead you wrong.

8.)  Doomgiver , the Sword of Justice - This is a highly intimidating sword that will make your attacker feel the emotional turmoil he/she caused anyone he/she has ever wronged EVER. All at once. Just by unsheathing it. If they were bad people they instantly turn over a new leaf.

9.)  Coinspinner , the Sword of Chance - Him what wields it is the luckiest person in the world. Literally. Nothing bad will befall you once you get a hold of this sword. You'll find money, that cute chick will sudden notice how cool you are in an accidental meeting, all the votes will be in your favor, the store will be all out of your favorite sna--! Oop! No there's ONE MORE LEFT JUST FOR YOU, SIR! A life with Coinspinner in it is a really good life indeed. Yes sirree bob. But don't get too attached to it, because Coinspinner, like Lady Luck herself, won't stick around too long for any one person. One day you will look up and literally... 
...it will be gone. And lying somewhere for the next lucky bastard to find. ...lucky bastard...

10.)  Farslayer , the Sword of Vengeance - This is probably the scariest sword on a personal level. It's also a little more complicated than the others because it comes with a little rhyme and a dance. You hold the sword with two hands and do this little dance while simultaneously reciting the rhyme that you insert your enemy's name into (Sorry! Only one enemy per killin'!) and at the end of the rhyme Farslayer instantly converts into energy and shoots off to bury itself into the heart of the dirty fragger whose name you uttered. Now all you have to do is cower in terror at the ABSOLUTE CERTAINTY that the dead enemy's loved ones are now doing a dance and inserting YOUR name into a certain little rhyme. Good luck with that.

11.)  Soulcutter , the Sword of Despair - This is a tricky sword. and only a fool would use it... or someone extremely, suicidally desperate.  Its spell activates just by unsheathing it, and it is formidable indeed. When the wielder of Soulcutter draws this sword everyone within a certain radius (I think it's whosoever is within the wielder's sight) is instantly afflicted with the ULTIMATE in soul wrenching despair and sorrow. Everyone just falls down and moans so pitifully... I can't describe it. Suffice it to say, that if Tyra Banks was afflicted with this sword's power, she would literally have the face of a brown-skinned, 100 year old Mother Teresa. That's how much gut-wrenching sorrow she would be experiencing. It's weakness? It also affects the wielder as well. Doesn't THAT suck?

12.)  Mind Sword , the Sword of Glory - This is a VERY dangerous sword in that once the wielder unsheathes it, everyone who comes into contact with him will immediately fall to their faces in ABSOLUTE, COMPLETE AND TOTAL DEVOTION AND WORSHIP. Nothing escapes it's power. Humans, animals, demons, the gods... whatever. They will follow the Mind Sword's wielder to hell without question and do WHATEVER he says.

A Brand New Rule Just For You

But, of course, racists enjoy the moving the goal post fallacy and are QUICK to invent a brand new rule just for you whenever you achieve a certain level of success they didn't expect.

Have you noticed that racists ALWAYS over-emphasize the president's 'white half?' Isn't that something? In fact, it can definitely function as a paraphrased "You might be a racist if..." identification marker (with apologies to Jeff Foxworthy) to identify the jackasses among your social circles, assuming they hadn't already outed themselves.
The one-drop rule applied UNTIL one of you actually made it into the White House. Now all of a sudden he's not really that black. "Well, boy, obviously it was his white half that got him in there." ‪#‎racistAssholesAreRacist‬

The Cure for Racism

Human societies have subjected themselves to classism for thousands of years (at least), and the concept of race is now linked to that ancient behavioral trope. The only possible way, realistically, that race can be removed from the American Experience, is if superior high education (ivy league level) was made mandatory training across the board for all citizens, starting from pre-school level. The fruit of that would greatly reduce the poor class population and elevate their next generations into the moneyed classes.
And with classism struck a severe enough blow, ‘race’ will be left looking feeble and defenseless, and even the most die-hard racist will be reluctant to defend it.  As long as our society continues to treat the different classes the way they've been treating them over the last 50 years or so, racism will not go anywhere. An attack on poverty… using the tried & true method of teaching the poor classes valuable skills that others are willing to pay top dollar for... will win the majority of the war against racism. I have no doubt of this.

The Inherent Wrong Within Defending Against Savage Hate

Al Bush – [shared link] Good enough for Cliven? Good enough for everyone.



Malik Shabazz to Black Panthers: 2015 Time to Build Army, Go to Gun Range

Quentin Afrouk - No excuse for extremism of any kind Al. Two wrongs don't make a right.
D Lee Navin - With all the white supremacist "armies" militia that exist and their rights to form organizations, then it is just as right for the Blacks to form militias. I don't like any of them, but I can understand why the Black Panthers would like to build themselves up..... It is like we are living back in the 70s.......
Andrew Gamson - See? I agree with Quentin Afrouk...two wrongs dont make a right but two Wrights made an airplane.......but I digress. The issue is that the government and police need to keep an eye on both sides of the extremes of the political wings.....the danger there is palpable.
Robert Hunter - Traditionally the police are more tolerant of white right wingers with guns.
Chris Scruton - Armed black panthers in the 60s was what motivated Republicans of the day to favor gun control.
Amy Sheridan - Fair is fair
Debatenn Ufaith - I told you this isnt going to end well
Muhammad Rasheed - Assassinating black leaders in the 60s was what motivated the black youth of the day to favor gun control.
Chris Scruton - I think Louis Farrakhan has a point. (Unfortunately he tends to jab himself with it)
Muhammad Rasheed - I have no idea what Farrakhan's point is; I'm an orthodox Muslim. 
Top notch stereotyping you performed there. I score it a 9.2
Muhammad Rasheed - Quentin Afrouk wrote: "No excuse for extremism of any kind Al. Two wrongs don't make a right." 
Self defense is wrong? In what way? You don't believe in defending yourself if someone burns a cross on your lawn, drags you out of the house and hangs you from a tree (or burns you alive) because your existence threatens their dominant social status? Tell me how defending yourself against a traditional psychotic evil is wrong?
Chris Scruton - No, seriously.I think Farrakhan is basically saying black people have to do it on their own. His militancy might get over the top, but I think he's correct on the bigger issue.Because there's a lot of racism in this country.
Muhammad Rasheed - Andrew Gamson wrote: "...two wrongs dont make a right [...] The issue is that the government and police need to keep an eye on both sides of the extremes of the political wings.....the danger there is palpable."
The police have been the enforcement arm for the exact institutionalized mindset that the Panthers need to defend themselves against. It is highly unlikely having them "keep an eye on both sides" will turn out well for the disenfranchised side.
Muhammad Rasheed - Chris Scruton wrote: "No, seriously."
lol You should've led with that, and tacked the joke onto the end of it.
Muhammad Rasheed - I apologize for saying you stereotyped.
Andrew Gamson - And I rate Muhammad's apology an 9.0 (damn the Russian judge.....)
Ken Krueger - Wow...I'm amazed at how little improv is being done.Sticking to the script right down the line.All this "who's badder than whom" BS is just going to get a lot of people killed for nothing.And it won't end the way these guys think it will.
Chris Scruton - Well, the cops are already killing people for nothing.Maybe they'll get the message when people start shooting back.
Muhammad Rasheed - It'll be an excuse to bring the military into those communities and wipe those people out once and for all.
Muhammad Rasheed - I suspect these over-aggressive cops are deliberately being assigned to those areas for exactly that reason, to trigger exactly those chains of events. #turnerDiaries
Chris Scruton - Possible, I guess.
Ken Krueger - Muhammad is exactly right, and Chris, I don't know you, but I doubt you'll be standing to the right of Shabazz when the National Guard opens up.The Progressive movement has a habit of telling Black people one thing and doing something very different. But know this...ANYONE who says "Black lives matter" while talking up armed revolution is deeply confused.
Muhammad Rasheed - Government subsidized private prisons are Big Business. And the 1% have already proven they will do ANYTHING for more money.
Chris Scruton - Non-violent protest is always a good strategy.Getting the people out to VOTE is even better.
Chris Scruton - I'm not saying what people SHOULD do.But violence begets violence.And no, you won't see me there.I stay away from people with guns.
Muhammad Rasheed - I don't believe the non-violent strategy for repelling hate-filled aggression will work a second time in this country. There's a reason the media have ceased recording large groups of protesters. 
"The Revolution will not be televised."
Muhammad Rasheed - They're planning a slaughter, and they will blame it on the victims as usual.
Chris Scruton - Hope not.
Ken Krueger - Muhammad, I knew Gil-Scott Heron a little bit...worked with him.There's a lot of irony to your use of the phrase, but I think you and I are the only ones who get this.I've continually been telling people that publicly antagonizing the cops is bad tactics. And for my trouble, I get called a racist, simply because I can see the stage craft here.It's strange when people are not only ignorant of history, but when confronted by it, deny the lesson. But here we are.I sense we disagree as to the most effective solution, but we both know what's coming...
Muhammad Rasheed - Ken Krueger wrote: "I've continually been telling people that publicly antagonizing the cops is bad tactics."
That part doesn't matter. Harassing, and making the occasional lesson out of, the disenfranchised class is part of maintaining the dominant position in society. Obviously when the disenfranchised managed to get "the first black president" in the White House, they needed to be put back into their place in case they get some kind of uppity ideas like they were suddenly equal or something ridiculous like that.
Muhammad Rasheed - The Black Panthers are the natural response to that increased calculated hostility, as the first BP Party was birthed from the same situation in wake of the '60s assassinations.
Ken Krueger - Ummm...now we diverge. And we can talk about the deeper and darker if you want some day, but dont fall into the trap. I'm telling you, and everyone who will listen (nobody so far) that screaming at the cops is masturbation. It may feel good for a minute, but all you're doing is bullshitting yourself.Ultimately, it just provides footage for the "they had it comin'" B Roll.
Ken Krueger - The BP, like the modern Klan, is a minstrel show of scary images of racism.The strings are pulled in places we both know. Both are a distraction. If push ever comes to shove, their leaders' bodies will be used as props in the great passion play.
Muhammad Rasheed - But that's exactly what I'm saying. They will slaughter them -- off camera -- and blame the victims like they always do.
Muhammad Rasheed - They are deliberately antagonizing the people in those communities to set them off so they can Turner Diaries them.
Ken Krueger - Muhammad, I sent u a friend request. I'm nobody important, but so few people seem to see how we're ALL being used...pick up!
Ken Krueger - MRasheed, don't be naive...it's not all one-sided.Nothing in this long, sordid history ever was.There are the users and the used. They come in all colors. The REAL solution lies in the ability of some smart m-fers to see the big picture.You up to the challenge?
Ken Krueger - Chris Ray
Muhammad Rasheed - 1.) Deliberately selecting cops with low IQs2.) Assigning cops with a demonstrated disdain for certain races/ethic groups into those same communities3.) Naturally the cops vs citizens conflicts sky-rocket4.) Community's citizens complain at the treatment and are literally made fun of ("I Can Breathe") by the cops in a deliberate antagonism5.) When the citizens eventually flare up to the point of No Return, the cops with military re-enforcement will gleefully slaughter them all.
Muhammad Rasheed - Ken Krueger wrote: "The REAL solution lies in the ability of some smart m-fers to see the big picture. You up to the challenge?"
Are you implying that you do see the big picture? Show me.
Rob Beckner - Mr Rasheed are you under the impression that YOU do? Show us
Muhammad Rasheed - ^Considering I'm not the one that challenged anyone to see the big picture (Ken did), by what justification are you using to direct that comment towards me and not him? What comment did I make that gave you that impression?

Al Bush - Only reason MR is that it's mostly white people who need convincing. My congressional district is represented by a Muslim Black man. Not a violence proponent. The demonization of the BP over the years is part of what drives this. White folks need a scapegoat and black folks need a strategy that takes the bait a little less. So we crank the pressure up. Anger the young and let them make the mistakes. A photo or quote out of context that is used to inflame and the hammer of what used to be hovers FBI but now will be Homeland Security. Forget the food served or children cared for, the education provided or the respectful relationships developed. But rest assured. Before there were BP there were police units well used to having their way with blacks and the poor. We have a history seldom told of of the standard things people don't want to discuss, racism and genocide not that far gone. 
Mark Thiel - The NBPP, from what I have gleaned from personal remembrance and paying attention to old school activists like Lorenzo Kom'boa Ervin, is a bogus attempt to capitalize on the legacy of BPP and not to be taken seriously. I agreed completely with the BPP agenda and the rationale for the Deacons for Defense, but the NBPP...I dunno. 
Chris Scruton - Social change comes from a mixture of conscience and fear. 
Ken Krueger - It's a set-up 
Al Bush - It's a problem to be solved.  
We may pride ourselves on black friends, black neighbors, black history attendance and even drag out out best couple dozen when it suits. It's not the same as living a black experience. A black life.  
I like Chris Ray and Muhammad Rasheed and Lorenzo Kom'boa Ervin as they all come close by me one time or another. Each contributes to my understanding but that's not the same as self empowerment.  
You cannot hardly have it both ways. Preach personal responsibility then criticize the organized attempts, especially when they are no more disruptive than the ones we've historically used ourselves.  
In fact, far milder.

BOOK REVIEW - The Wolfen

Muhammad Rasheed - This is one of my favorite stories of all time. The concept was absolutely brilliant, and like another reviewer mentioned, the movie completely missed the ball on this. Wolfen is the highest-evolved member of the dog family just as we are the highest-evolved primate. Feeding exclusively on humans, the Wolfen evolved parallel from us, and increased in mental capacity to match as their prey evolved, similar to the way the cheetah's speed evolved as his prey got faster. As our technology evolved to make us more than a match for any animal, our natural predator evolved his physical abilities to keep up. The Wolfen don't have an actual opposable thumb, but their paw evolved to mimic one (close enough). It can turn a door knob or throw a complicated latch that the cleverest family pet couldn't. They've demonstrated the ability to mimic the sounds of distressed humans or children to lure their prey into lonely areas and they have a complicated/sophisticated language. But most of all they have SPEED. They are fast enough to disappear from your sight as if they vanished into thin air.
With today's new CGI effects this would be the perfect time to redo that stupid movie and scare the heck out of people like they should have. And this time, no ecological speech snore-fests, please.
Muhammad Rasheed - Deadliest Fiction Wiki: Wolfen

Brian Lewis - I remember that movie... lol
Muhammad Rasheed - That movie was garbage. The book was awesome. They didn't have the tech or the subtlety to make this into a correct movie in those days. Today they do. The team that's making these new Planet of the Apes reboot movies could knock this story out of the park on the silver screen.
Muhammad Rasheed - It could be genuinely terrifying.
Derek Mason - Been meaning to read this. Saw the movie as a kid, was scary, but then again, I was 5. Heard the book was 100 times better.
Muhammad Rasheed - The movie turned the story into a bullsh*t PSA for ecological awareness.
Derek Mason - Did they actually look like the above pic in the book ? Paws that look like human hands ?
Muhammad Rasheed - Negative. They just used regular wolves (with the leader of the wolves a purest, snowflake white, because that's the color of leadership and stuff, of course) and said they were spirits of the earth that came to punish us for littering or whatever. Then an American Indian showed up and shed a single tear.
Muhammad Rasheed - It was garbage. Don't watch that stuff.
Muhammad Rasheed - In the book the Wolfen talk about how they feel about wolves and the other lesser dog species.
Derek Mason - Oh yeah, I know they were regular wolves in the movie, I meant did they have human like hands in the book. I heard they could climb apartment buildings
Muhammad Rasheed - Yes. The Wolfen are to the dog family what we are to the primate family. They are our natural predators, and their physical gifts evolved to match our technology. So although they don't actually have a hand w/thumb, their paw works like a hand, and can open locks and pretty much whatever our hands can do...
Muhammad Rasheed - ...with razor-sharp deadly claws of death.
Derek Mason - Damn that's creepy. You're right, todays tech could really do justice to a new Wolfen movie.
Derek Mason - Maybe even show the Wolfen as the basis for werewolf legends.
Muhammad Rasheed - Their faces aren't static like a dog's face; they actually do have lips and can express emotions with their faces. It comes across as ugly/horrifying/alien. Outside of their comparable intellect, their deadliest weapon is their great speed; they are so fast that they appear to vanish while you are looking at them.  For purposes of their own survival, their most important tool is the ability to hide among us, and let their knowledge fall into mere legend.
Muhammad Rasheed - That's exactly how they are presented in the book.
Muhammad Rasheed - They're just as smart as us, with their own language, etc., and the ancients thought they were people who transformed into beasts.
Derek Mason - Well, looks like I gotta visit amazon. Got to get this book.
Muhammad Rasheed - It's great!
Muhammad Rasheed - Barlowe did a decent job on the illustration above, but the face is still too static.
Derek Mason - You got me wanting a Wolfen comic. Would love to see the history of them.
Muhammad Rasheed - Before the modern tech era, we had a very different relationship with them.
Muhammad Rasheed - You were literally out-of-your-mind and suicidal if you went outside after dark, or wandered off all by yourself.
Derek Mason - Shit, the imagery you just gave me got me thinking twice about walking down this hallway to the kitchen for a glass of water lol
Muhammad Rasheed - DON'T DO IT!!!!!!!
Derek Mason - LOL
Muhammad Rasheed - Early in the story, the two detectives went into this abandoned building, and the lady cop heard this faint noise like an infant crying. She went to go and investigate, but this instinctual terror made her hesitate. Something in her DNA was remembering something...
Derek Mason - Now that's creepy. I want to see this on the big screen.
Muhammad Rasheed - In the ancient days, a "vampire" was a treacherous, homeless human that the Wolfen would recruit to coax people out of their houses. As his reward they would let him live as long as he continued to be useful, and even allowed him to feed off of their scraps. They had no use for such a relationship in modern days, and consider themselves wealthy -- feeding off of the numerous outcasts of our society.
Derek Mason - I was just about to ask what would be the vampire equivalent to the Wolfen
Muhammad Rasheed - In the modern era, after we forgot that they were real, we hunted the poor wolf almost to extinction in a misdirection of that same instinctual terror. Meanwhile the real enemy was hiding along the path to the well, or using one of those clever paws to pull open the window to your basement...
Derek Mason - Are the Wolfen copyrighted creations of Strieber or general folklore ?
Muhammad Rasheed - Strieber's creation. His version of the werewolf myth.
Muhammad Rasheed - Turning it into science fiction.
Derek Mason - Damn, would've love to have used them in one of my projects.

BOOK REVIEW - Isaac Asimov's Wonderful Worlds of Science Fiction #3: SUPERMEN

I finally got my hands on this intriguing-sounding paperback anthology, that had been on my Wish List for many years, and I was pleased to find I did indeed enjoy it a great deal.
Compiled and edited by Isaac Asimov and some others, it has twelve short stories, each featuring a super human being of some description. The oldest story was written in 1948 while the most recent was written in 1969. I thought the book was very cool overall, with some stories I liked more than others of course. I was primarily interested in the supermen themselves and was anxious to see how each author would handle the concept.

1.)  Angel, Dark Angel  by Roger Zelazny - The supermen in this story were highly advanced cyborgs in the role of assassins. They were pretty much coldly invincible in the story (as well as frightening) and no human could possibly be a match for them.

2.)  Worlds to Kill  by Harlan Ellison - This story had but one superman and he was a Planet Killer for Hire. Literally. He owned a world-sized technological fortress complete with his own alien servants, soldiers, highly-advanced super-weapons and a super-computer (A.I.). Physically he was Captain America/Punisher-level but he also had a great, brilliant mind that got him along well for untold centuries before his computer was built.

3.)  In the Bone  by Gordon R. Dickson - The superman in this story was actually an astronaut in the far future. He was the sole pilot of a remarkable space craft that was more like Iron-Man's armor, but much bigger and far more powerful.

4.)  What Rough Beast  by Damon Knight - The superman in this story was a middle-aged polish immigrant in early 20th century New York. He had the unrestricted ability to traverse through the unlimited alternate dimensions of the Multiverse. He could either go into any of them at will, or he could take specific objects or beings from any of them at will. For example, he could put a one hundred dollar bill on the table and then take a million of that one hundred dollar bill's counterparts-counterparts from the corresponding one million alternate realities and place them all next to it on his table. Such a feat could take him roughly 4-5 hours.

5.)  Death by Ecstasy  by Larry Niven - The supermen in this story are people with various psionic abilities... none particularly powerful... with the protagonist possessing a weak third "arm" made out of invisible psychic energy.

6.)  Un-man  by Poul Anderson - This supermen from this story are a secret army of clones, each working as a special, highly-trained agent for a secret government organization. They function during their greater mission as a single man, legendary in the role of the unkillable Un-man that can't be stopped. When you think you killed him he will be back to hound you once more! (Kinda like the 5 Chinese Brothers set-up.)

7.)  Muse  by Dean R. Koontz - In the future when mankind starts exploring other worlds, eventually they bring back these slimy, leech-like symbiotes that attach themselves onto a host's spine. They are huge and actually deform the hosts' clothing. They require some kind of mental energy as food in order to thrive and in return... they provide something SUPER. I can't tell you without messing up the tale, but it is fun.

8.)  Resurrection  by A. E. van Vogt - In the very far future, mankind's technology has achieved a state that can only be described as Cosmic Power. Completely doing away with machinery in their technological expression, these supermen freely manipulate the full force of atomic energy, gravity, the electromagnetic spectrum, space/time, etc. with the power of their wills alone.

9.)  Pseudopath  by Philip E. High - The superman in this story is a highly-trained soldier with "profiling" abilities so acutely well-developed, that combined with his impressive, Jet Li-level physical abilities, seems as if he has unlimited access to the inner minds of men.

10.)  After the Myths Went Home  by Robert Silverberg - The supermen in this story are another super-advanced, far future version of mankind. But these are a few eons before the beings in Resurrection by A. E. van Vogt and have little offensive capabilities. Instead they use their otherwise unlimited super-tech to freely manipulate the weather as easily as you rearrange your curtains, and even bring to life entities from the distant past that may or may not have actually lived... and sometimes both versions of an ancient being in both his/her true and legendary forms.

11.)  Before the Talent Dies  by Henry Slesar - The superman in this story is a telepath on Emma Frost's level of skill.

12.)  Brood World Barbarian  by Perry A. Chapdelaine - The superman in this story is a savage barbarian (who apparently looks like Fabio) from a world with higher gravity and much harsher living conditions. The creature is forced to fight other alien beings including his own world's brothers in gladiator games. Some parts of the slave harness he wears functions as impervious armor and he also has use of a magnetic energy-type weapon.

White Lies Don't Count Though, Right?

Muhammad Rasheed – [shared link] That was awesome...

End Of The World Job Interview Prank
Harrison Wood - Hahahahahaha!
William H. Foster III - I'd be pissed the hell off!
Tony Villalba - yeah me too.. thinking I'm going there for a job and then ha! ha! we fooled you! better give me a little money for the time at least..
Jason McCammon - Some pranks go too far.....
Muhammad Rasheed - I would've just been happy that the world didn't end, and go home to kiss my wife & kids... lol
Muhammad Rasheed - That would've been a serious ass wake up call.
Muhammad Rasheed - I was feeling that shit just from watching it... putting myself in their shoes. "Let me pay off all my debts and get my life right before the Lord turns out the lights for real for real..."
Muhammad Rasheed - What if TODAY was your LAST day?
Muhammad Rasheed - It's not only a fun prank, but it has a serious life lesson built into it. It transcended "prank" and became "art."
Michael Daniels - I watched it earlier, but was unclear if it was actually a prank or a well acted commercial....And Who do you mean by Lord, Mo?
Muhammad Rasheed - ^lol This is why I wanted to hear your opinion of it, but you always, by default, take the opposite stance on any and everything I say. "Surely Deac will agree with me on THIS one. Let's test it..."

"Nope."
Muhammad Rasheed - hahahahahaha
Michael Daniels - Wait...Huh...What did I disagree with you about?
Muhammad Rasheed - Michael Daniels wrote: "And Who do you mean by Lord, Mo?"

The One God of Abraham. The Supreme Creator of the universe. The Lord worshiped by Adam, Noah, Jacob & the Tribes, Moses, David, and Solomon. The same Lord that created the Christ Jesus, son of Mary from scratch in his mother's womb.

That Lord.

Was there supposed to be another? There is only One God.
Michael Daniels - In the Bible that LORD is addressed in all caps hence the confusion.
Muhammad Rasheed - Michael Daniels wrote: "Wait...Huh...What did I disagree with you about?"

I asked your opinion of the comments and you decided to side step that and pick a fight. You're very contentious. I've been noticing that about you.
Muhammad Rasheed - Michael Daniels wrote: "In the Bible that LORD is addressed in all caps hence the confusion."

All of them? All the bibles? Really?

Is this really your official stance? Curious.
Michael Daniels - I expressed confusion and asked a question foe clarification...Where's the contention there?
Michael Daniels - Nope it was a general statement not meant to be all inclusive.
Muhammad Rasheed - What was a general statement? That all bibles spell 'Lord' in all caps like 'LORD?'
Muhammad Rasheed - ???
Muhammad Rasheed - You really don't think that claiming 'confusion' as to what 'Lord' I meant because I didn't also capitalize the 'ORD' isn't inherently contentious?
Michael Daniels - That Bible Translators in general translate God's personal name this way. It's not exhaustive The New World Translation always renders the tetragrammaton as Jehovah.
Muhammad Rasheed - Are we suddenly no longer talking about the title 'Lord' and are now pretending the whole thing was about my failing to capitalize the Tetragrammaton? Is this a misdirection?
Michael Daniels - I was wondering if you might have finally converted to Christianity and might be referring to Lord Jesus Christ coming again. It wouldn't be the first time (or ten thousandth) time a prayer of mine was answered. 
Muhammad Rasheed - ^Hence the continuous contention.
Michael Daniels - My bad, Bruh....Btw the confusion I was actually alluding to was whether the posted video was a real reaction or well acted.
Muhammad Rasheed - For the record, I'm not interested in being a vile transgressor of faith, and condemning myself to hellfire for committing the unforgivable sin of giving the One God a partner/child.
You can wish that horror on someone else thanks. I don't want any.
Michael Daniels - Not a partner, but an aspect of Himself in human form....You always misstate the Christian position.
Muhammad Rasheed - Michael Daniels wrote: "My bad, Bruh....Btw the confusion I was actually alluding to was whether the posted video was a real reaction or well acted."
I know. But I specifically asked your opinion of the comments. So after you commented on the video, the second part was your contentious assessment of the comments, right? lol
Michael Daniels - The second part was a question...not an opinion.
Muhammad Rasheed - Michael Daniels wrote: "Not a partner, but an aspect of Himself in human form....You always misstate the Christian position."
Do you consider Moses, Noah, Abraham to be "aspects of Him in human form?" The answer to that will solve all of our ideological issues right here & now.
Michael Daniels - Nope they were imperfect sinful men....Jesus was someOne else entirely.
Muhammad Rasheed - So Jesus was without sin according to your doctrine? Do you consider a lie to be a sin?
Michael Daniels - Yes!
Michael Daniels - Are you calling Jesus a liar?
Muhammad Rasheed - lol
Michael Daniels - Are you laughing at Jesus?
Muhammad Rasheed - Jesus Christ was not a liar. But your book says he was. I find it difficult to accept it on that basis.
Muhammad Rasheed - Jesus didn't write your book, remember? So why would I be calling the messenger a liar?
Michael Daniels - Where in the Bible does it say Jesus lied? I've read it numerous times and must have missed that scripture.
Muhammad Rasheed - John 7:8-108 Go ye up unto this feast: I go not up yet unto this feast: for my time is not yet full come.9 When he had said these words unto them, he abode still in Galilee.10 But when his brethren were gone up, then went he also up unto the feast, not openly, but as it were in secret.
Michael Daniels - lol....Not even close, Bruh. But , I guess I can see how you could misconstrue it as such if you tried really really hard.
Michael Daniels - Jesus said...I'm not going there now, You guys go.Jesus went there later secretly.
Muhammad Rasheed - Naturally I was looking forward to all the twisting, turning, backflips, and Neo/Matrix-like bullet dodging you were going to use to justify this.
Go ahead.
Michael Daniels - It's simple....Where is the lie?
Muhammad Rasheed - "But when his brethren were gone up..."
That means that he told them one thing, "BUT" did something different.
That would be a lie.
Try harder.
Muhammad Rasheed - At the moment it does not look like your 'divine god-son' figure was without sin.
You said a lie was indeed a sin with a resounding "Yes," remember?
Do a better job of explaining how that wasn't a lie, please.
Michael Daniels - No he did exactly as He told them. He said it wasn't time for Him to go Yet....He did go eventually though and kept His presence secret as there were people trying to kill Him.
Muhammad Rasheed - If that is supposed to be true, then what is the point of the "But when..." which means a lie was just uttered?
Muhammad Rasheed - In the English language in which it was translated.
Michael Daniels - There's no lie/sin there Muhammed. For you to call it that is ridiculous.
Muhammad Rasheed - It's CLEARLY a lie.
Muhammad Rasheed - Try harder, please.
Michael Daniels - When he had said these words unto them,HE ABODE STILL in Galilee.
Muhammad Rasheed - Yes, at the time he told them this, he was in Galilee. So?
Michael Daniels - "But when" means a lie...?...BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Muhammad Rasheed - I'm going to log off to cook me some breakfast, Deac.
"But when Deac looked away, Mo did not log off."
Muhammad Rasheed - I LIED.
Muhammad Rasheed - "But when..."
Michael Daniels - So he stayed in Galilee until his brothers arrived in Jerusalem..then the went. It's quite a ways away by foot there was a big time interval in between the two events.
Muhammad Rasheed - It didn't say, "Then later, when the appropriate time was upon him, he went..."
It said "BUT WHEN..." which heralds the lie.
Muhammad Rasheed - Try harder, please.
Michael Daniels - Except it doesn't say "But when" directly after his statement. It says "But when" directly after "HE ABODE STILL in Galilee." The contrast is to the latter statement, meaning he was no longer abiding in Galilee.
Michael Daniels - Very simple.
Muhammad Rasheed - lol How does that make sense? "But when" negates what was said, so...
Muhammad Rasheed - What?
Muhammad Rasheed - lol
Michael Daniels - He didn't go when they went, he went some time later which is exactly what he said He would do.
Muhammad Rasheed - Explain this "very simple" back flip.
Muhammad Rasheed - The narrator said he told them one thing and did something different from what he said. The "But when" heralded the lie.
Muhammad Rasheed - He went secretly because he didn't want THEM to see him there because he just told them he wasn't going.
Michael Daniels - Deacon said "I will punch Mo in the nose!" Mo was kickin it in Saudi Arabia. But when Deacon arrived there Pow right in the nose.
Muhammad Rasheed - Your twists & flips aren't very impressive. Is it your back?
Michael Daniels - WRONG read verse 1 "After this, Jesus traveled in Galilee, since He did not want to travel in Judea because the Jews were trying to kill Him."
Muhammad Rasheed - So you admit he lied to his companions so they wouldn't give it away that he was going to show up?
Muhammad Rasheed - Yes?
Michael Daniels - LOL
Muhammad Rasheed - Yes?
Muhammad Rasheed - Helloooo...?
Muhammad Rasheed - Yes?
Michael Daniels - Read the whole chapter, Mo... Jesus is up front with His brothers...He couldn't travel with His family because He would be recognized too soon. When it was His time He revealed Himself in the Temple.
Michael Daniels - When someone says they arent going somewhere YET...It means thay are going.
Muhammad Rasheed - Michael Daniels wrote: "Read the whole chapter, Mo... Jesus is up front with His brothers...He couldn't travel with His family because He would be recognized too soon. When it was His time He revealed Himself in the Temple. "
Sure. 
And notice that he lied to his blabber-mouthed companions so they wouldn't give him away to his enemies.
Muhammad Rasheed - Michael Daniels When someone says they arent going somewhere YET...It means thay are going."
Naturally. Yet here we find that because they wrote "But when..." it references a lie, so what you are describing isn't what was going on HERE.
Michael Daniels - No, it was His brothers and He told them why he wasn't travelling with Him.
Muhammad Rasheed - No. The "But when..." means he told them he wasn't going until waaayyy later.
Michael Daniels - But when does not always mean a lie it just mean a change in circumstance as illustrated by my very apt example which you chose to ignore.
Michael Daniels - Where did He EVER say he wasn't going? He had to go. It was required by Law and he always obeyed the Mosaic Law as it was intended to be obeyed.
Muhammad Rasheed - Michael Daniels wrote: "But when does not always mean a lie ..."
Sure. In this case it clearly does. You NEED it not to mean that to support your false doctrine.
Michael Daniels - You want it to in order to falsely accuse the Messiah, just as the Pharisees and the Romans that killed Him did!!!!
Muhammad Rasheed - No. I'm accusing the writers who ascribe onto the Christ that which is not true.
Muhammad Rasheed - Careful, you're going to run over your exclamation mark quota.
Michael Daniels - There's no need to lie about something as mundane as this. What motive could Jesus best friend, John, under inspiration of the Holy Spirit could possibly have had?
Muhammad Rasheed - Jesus knew his companions better than you do, right? He knew they were blabber-mouthed gossipers.
Muhammad Rasheed - You JUST pointed out his enemies were going to be up there in force.    I don't care whether that "But when..." line is in there or not; I don't believe Jesus was the divine son of God and shared in the God-head.  I just wanted to see you do your Gabby Douglas impression.
Muhammad Rasheed - That wasn't a mundane lie. It had purpose.
Muhammad Rasheed - (still a lie though) #oops!
Michael Daniels - It was His brothers....James and them (who you love)...And it wasn't that they would talk. They were His family. Everyone knew what family He was from.That's the first placed they'd look.
Muhammad Rasheed - Huh? What are you saying?
Michael Daniels - The other sons of Joseph and Mary...His literal human family.
Muhammad Rasheed - Yes? What about them?
Muhammad Rasheed - Are you implying that the lie didn't count 'cause it was said to them?
Michael Daniels - You seem to think He was talking to His disciples.
Michael Daniels - His disciples were with Him. They were probably the ones helping Him stay concealed. It was His unbelieving family that He chose not to travel with...They were more interested in exposing Him.
Michael Daniels - I'm not implying anything, just setting the facts straight. There was no lie. This was Jesus telling His family He wouldn't go with them to the festival. He didn't even leave Galilee until they had already arrived.
Muhammad Rasheed - You're saying he lied to his treacherous family who were plotting to expose him to his enemies. I see.
Muhammad Rasheed - Michael Daniels wrote: "He didn't even leave Galilee until they had already arrived."
You're interpreting "were gone up" as "already arrived?" Why?
Michael Daniels - Not a plot...They were just incredulous that He was Who He was telling them He was. They didn't know there was a price on His head. To them He was suffering from dillusions of grandeur. They made the same mistake you're making now. Not recognizing the true Jesus.
After this, Jesus traveled in Galilee, since He did not want to travel in Judea because the Jews were trying to kill Him. 2 The Jewish Festival of Tabernacles[a][b] was near, 3 so His brothers said to Him, “Leave here and go to Judea so Your disciples can see Your works that You are doing. 4 For no one does anything in secret while he’s seeking public recognition. If You do these things, show Yourself to the world.” 5 (For not even His brothers believed in Him.)
Michael Daniels - Jerusalem was/is at the top of a hill. That's what it means. It doesn't say "while they were going up".
Muhammad Rasheed - "10 But when his brethren were gone up, then went he also up unto the feast..."
Michael Daniels - Go ye up unto this feast: I go not up yet unto this feast:
Michael Daniels - Modern English versions say it more succinctly "10 AFTER His brothers had gone up to the festival, THEN He also went up, not openly but secretly."
Don't try to equivocate on the basis of old English, Mo.
Michael Daniels - "But when" is absent as well.
Muhammad Rasheed - Michael Daniels wrote: "Modern English versions say it more succinctly..."
Modern English versions retcon history after their debates to tweak the doctrine in the direction they like. The way y'all usually do. lol
Muhammad Rasheed - It's been a looong tweaking process.
Muhammad Rasheed - "house of cards" technique.
Muhammad Rasheed - *nods*
Michael Daniels - No, some modern versions, certainly the one I use, have access to the most recently discovered of the original manuscripts. Plus it's in modern English so yahoos don't think every time someone says "But when" they're telling a lie.
Muhammad Rasheed - Right. "But when" meant something COMPLETELY different than it means now. Sure.
Michael Daniels - Just learn Aramaic and you'll know what was really meant.
Muhammad Rasheed - So, are we done? Was that the extent of your gymnastics floor routine?
Michael Daniels - I can't believe I spent this long on something so simple and trivial.
Muhammad Rasheed - It's not trivial. It's a sloppy hole in your "sinless divine son-god" doctrine.
Muhammad Rasheed - But modern versions of the text put some caulk in it, so no sweat, right?
Michael Daniels - No, it means the same thing, but when Accusers are looking for anything and everything they chose a clearer way to say it.
Muhammad Rasheed - lol
Michael Daniels - Well no...It's not ass asinine as say the Hadith system....But there are some translations that are more accurate than others especially considering how the English language evolves.
Muhammad Rasheed - 1.) Text shows that "sinless divine son-god" lied2.) Pauline Christian alter text3.) Doctrine saved!
lol
Muhammad Rasheed - hahahaha
Michael Daniels - Pauline Christians (which are basically Christians) translated the King James version as well.
Muhammad Rasheed - Michael Daniels wrote: "Well no...It's not ass asinine as say the Hadith system..."
It's actually exactly the same in every way, for the exact same reasons.
Muhammad Rasheed - Michael Daniels wrote: "Pauline Christians (which are basically Christians) translated the King James version as well."
Of course.
Michael Daniels - You're kidding, right?LOL
Muhammad Rasheed - ^About the hadith thing? Nope.
Muhammad Rasheed - Try me.
Michael Daniels - I have a book here which quotes various Hadith having to do with Jesus, many of which have absolutely no connection to what the Quran says about Him.
Muhammad Rasheed - Yes? 
You don't recognize the parallel in your own system?
Muhammad Rasheed - It's going to cause us to go over old Classic Mo vs Deac ground again...
Muhammad Rasheed - lol
Michael Daniels - Different Bible translations are just that. People translating from the original languages into other languages. The source material is the same and the ideas are supernaturally preserved.
Muhammad Rasheed - Michael Daniels wrote: "...and the ideas are supernaturally preserved." 
Is that what retconning out "But when..." was? Supernatural preservation?
hahahahahahahaha!
Michael Daniels - They're not contributing brand new stories hundreds of years later. C'mon Mo, that's absurd.
Michael Daniels - No that's translating it more precisely from the original text. Are you saying you know Aramaic better than those who translated the Holman Standard Bible?
Michael Daniels - C'mon Mo...What's Aramaic for "But when"
Muhammad Rasheed - Your own (believing!) scholars recognize that the 4 gospels were not written by the men whose names they bear, but were written MUCH later by evangelicals influenced by Paul. This message is in conflict with what Jesus actually preached, in perfect imitation of the flaws in hadith.
Michael Daniels - Keep in mind I exposed your bias and false unstanding of basic English before I ever brought up what other translations say.
Michael Daniels - Not my scholars...Miraculously ALL of MY scholars agree with me completely!!!
Muhammad Rasheed - Michael Daniels wrote: "No that's translating it more precisely from the original text. Are you saying you know Aramaic better than those who translated the Holman Standard Bible?"
Michael Daniels wrote: "C'mon Mo...What's Aramaic for 'But when'"
Are you trying to say the surviving original source writings for the Gospel of John are in Aramaic? Is this true?
Muhammad Rasheed - Michael Daniels wrote: "Not my scholars...Miraculously ALL of MY scholars agree with me completely!!!"
You don't consider the scholars who actually compile & publish (and retcon text as needed) the bible itself to be "YOUR" scholars?
That's sounds like an uncomfortable position to be in...
Michael Daniels - Partial Aramaic/Koinia Greek
Muhammad Rasheed - Michael Daniels wrote: "Keep in mind I exposed your bias and false unstanding of basic English before I ever brought up what other translations say." 
WHOA! When did THAT happen??? Copy/paste, please. I thought I had been following closely.
Muhammad Rasheed - Michael Daniels wrote: "Partial Aramaic/Koinia Greek"
What was the partial Aramaic part? Just the "But when..." line?
Michael Daniels - BAM!!!"I'm not implying anything, just setting the facts straight. There was no lie. This was Jesus telling His family He wouldn't go with them to the festival. He didn't even leave Galilee until they had already arrived."
Muhammad Rasheed - Michael Daniels wrote: "BAM!!! '"I'm not implying anything, just setting the facts straight. There was no lie. This was Jesus telling His family He wouldn't go with them to the festival. He didn't even leave Galilee until they had already arrived.'" 
lol Did I miss something? The text says that it wasn't his time yet and he wouldn't go up, but he went up anyway outside of a time frame he understood them to mean, which is why the narrator said "But when."
That meant he lied to them.
Later Christian scholars were disturbed by this, as it flew in the face of the false doctrine they were tasked to protect, as made uncomfortably clear by their debates with the Muslims, so they merely changed it to something more comfortable... 
...as they have willy-nilly been changing the message of God from the beginning. 
How you found a "BAM!!!" out of that is beyond me. Fix your sloppy false doctrine blasphemies better.
Michael Daniels - If He had said "I won't go up, Yet" and never gone up...Then He would have lied or misled His family...and broken the Law. He went up eventually which is what He said He would do. It's so simple to understand there are actually very few ways to explain it. He did exactly as He said He would do. You're intentionally reading way too much into the phrase "But when" for no good reason.
Muhammad Rasheed - What does "But when" mean when used outside of the pauline doctrine gymnastics tricks then?
Muhammad Rasheed - "I can't go up because my time has not yet full come."
But when they were gone up he sneaked up into the place. His time still had not yet "full come," thus the sneaking/lying.
Michael Daniels - I already gave you an example that took me, a modern writer, less than a second to conceive...I'm getting tired, Mo.
Muhammad Rasheed - Don't sweat it. Naturally I recognize your desperate need to force & shoe horn the text to mean what you need it to mean (since you lack the power to retcon it directly yourself).
I'm messing with you for your original contentious question.
Michael Daniels - His time referred to His death on the Cross. He didn't go with them because it was not yet His time to die for the sins of the world, but He did have to go, hence the sneaking and not lying about it.
Muhammad Rasheed - Wow.
I guess you did have more weird distortion gymnastics tricks up your sleeve.
Michael Daniels - I don't recognize your need to accuse an innocent man. That's just foul. He wouldn't do that to you.
Muhammad Rasheed - Again, I'm accusing the writers of saying things about the messenger that aren't true.
What kind of fallacy is that you're using every time you do that?
Michael Daniels - It's all explained in the chapter if you bother to actually read it instead of tearing it apart looking to accuse.
Muhammad Rasheed - How can I "tear it apart" without reading it?
Michael Daniels - The writers were inspired by the Holy Spirit. Either way you're accusing God of wrongdoing.
Muhammad Rasheed - Michael Daniels wrote: "The writers were inspired by the Holy Spirit." 
Then why are later writers changing it? [takes queen]
Michael Daniels - Do you mean why do people translate the Bible into other languages?
Muhammad Rasheed - Nooooo... why are English translators changing the text of previous English translators?
Michael Daniels - So that everyone can have God's Word in his or her own tongue. God has a history of making His word available in various languages.
Muhammad Rasheed - What's THIS fallacy called?
Muhammad Rasheed - Were not the previous English translators inspired by the holy spirit?
Michael Daniels - They didn't change anything. They translated the Bible based on the oldest and most reliable manuscripts into the English language currently spoken.
Muhammad Rasheed - So they DIDN'T take out "But when..." then?
So what was that you quoted?
Michael Daniels - The King James translators didn't have access to the Dead Sea Scrolls...Nor did they say things then like we say them now.
Michael Daniels - Nope "But when" were the words other people used to describe the incident....After and then were the words the more accurate modern writers used.
Michael Daniels - The King James version was not used to translate the Holman Standard Version. They are two separate entities
Muhammad Rasheed - Michael Daniels wrote: "Nope 'But when' were the words other people used to describe the incident....After and then were the words the more accurate modern writers used."
So these "other people" who put it in the text weren't being spirit led?
Michael Daniels - You have the same thing btw with English translations of the Quran.
Michael Daniels - Only the original writings were Spirit led....
Muhammad Rasheed - How do you know which bible English translators are spirit led or not?
Muhammad Rasheed - Michael Daniels Only the original writings were Spirit led...."
Michael Daniels - None of them are...Only the source material.
Muhammad Rasheed - Ah. So the translations are flawed, and compiled by non-spirit led people.
Michael Daniels - If I write a version of the Quran am I spirit led?
Muhammad Rasheed - Michael Daniels wrote: "If I write a version of the Quran am I spirit led?"
I don't think any human being is in a position to proclaim whether another human has been led by the spirit or not. I suppose the fruits of that person's efforts would have to be the test.
Michael Daniels - Actually, I have no idea where any given translator stands with Christ. I do know that some of the scholars used to translate the Holman were Jewish Rabbis....so...probably not spirit led in te sense that the original Bible writers were.
Muhammad Rasheed - You don't think the original writers... based on your doctrinal understanding of who they were... were learned Jews?
Muhammad Rasheed - Curious.
Michael Daniels - My point is that every word used in every translation is not perfect. And some translations are out and out blasphemous.
Muhammad Rasheed - How do you determine which ones are bad and which are the good ones?
Michael Daniels - I don't think that modern Jews who deny Jesus as the Messiah can be inhabited by the Holy Spirit...However God can use anyone, even nonbelievers to accomplish His will......I'm tired.
Muhammad Rasheed - How could He use them to accomplish His will WITHOUT use of the Holy Spirit? I thought that WAS the way?
Michael Daniels - Spirit lead implies someone who is submitted to God and allows Him to guide them in what they do. If God is exerting external force to accomplish His will..That's something else...Spirit driven perhaps?
Muhammad Rasheed - Either way, the holy spirit is in use, right?
Michael Daniels - Two totally different concepts though. God might use an unbelieving doctor to help heal one of His people. But a person filled with the Holy Spirit may effect a supernatural healing though prayer.
Muhammad Rasheed - Michael Daniels wrote: " His time referred to His death on the Cross. He didn't go with them because it was not yet His time to die for the sins of the world, but He did have to go, hence the sneaking and not lying about it."
Hmm. I think I am going to accept this. He told them he couldn't yet go up because to do so would mean it was time for his ultimate 'divine son-god' super-sacrifice thing. But he went up there ANYWAY even though it wasn't yet time for that event.
He lied to them.
This is exactly what I said, and supports the fact that your version of Jesus did lie. Based on what he deliberately told them, they were under the impression that the time he was going up was of a different time frame than what he actually intended. Thus the "But when" and the sneaking around.

Monsters 101 by M. Rasheed

Monsters 101 is a high adventure graphic novel series by creator M. Rasheed. Starring the former school bully turned super-strong monster Pugroff, and his former favorite nerd victim Mort, the two protagonists interact in a world full of child-eating monsters and other supernatural beings. The "Monsters 101" in the graphic novel series title, references the fact that the new monster Pugroff has to now learn HOW to be a monster. Starting with Book Four, class is now officially in session.

Trained at the facility of comics legend Joe Kubert, cartoonist M. Rasheed quickly developed a reputation for producing good work very quickly. Highly prolific, he developed the first 300 pages of his masterwork Monsters 101 shortly after leaving school. Joining the ranks of accomplished trailblazers Jeff Smith, Stan Sakai, and the ever-controversial Dave Sim, M. Rasheed has now also completed a long-form comic book story, and is currently the only African American cartoonist to do so.

Featuring elements of classic horror, fantasy, and a touch of Lovecraft on an action adventure base, readers delight at the non-stop thrills per page they experience from reading Monsters 101. A tale of redemption and self-discovery, while tying together numerous aspects of popular genres competently well, readers express a genuine fondness for the journey, as well as for the author’s ability to have them care for the characters as if they really know them, an impressive feat for any writer.

Monsters 101, Book One: "From Bully to Monster"

The One That Started It All! - Composed of six, 22 page chapters, this first, ultra-violent segment of the graphic novel series establishes school bully Willy Pugg as the baddest kid in Tanglewood Middle School. Stalking the halls like a psychopathic prison warden, the Pugg, as he is called by his victims, is pretty much unstoppable, until three, giant, foul-smelling monsters make his acquaintance. Agreeing to a horrifying deal with the creatures that dramatically changes the tone of the book, the adventure speeds along at a roller-coaster pace. Don’t let the cartoony art and friendly-sounding title fool you. In the tradition of It by Stephen King, or the television show South Park, even though it stars kids as the protagonists, it doesn’t mean it’s a kiddie read!

Monsters 101, Book Two: "Heroes & Devils"

Behold! Pugroff Is Here! - The three monsters from the first book of the series are from a race of creature who had become expert at hiding among humanity unseen for ages. And now that the police are on the look out for whatever was responsible for the terrible Tanglewood Middle School massacre, the creatures certainly don’t have a problem slipping back into the shadows leaving the former school bully turned brand new monster Pugroff to take the blame! In the exciting second title in M. Rasheed’s graphic novel series, Pugroff is on the lamb not only from the local police department, but also from the Red Shield, the most powerful hero in the United Kingdom, come to find a missing foreign exchange student. Mort decides to use his nerdy intellect to aid his former nemesis for reasons of his own, but in the end to keep Pugroff from facing the full might of the Great Red Shield of Legend, the two have to escape into the interdimensional devil world of Dharokalee... a perfect example of jumping from the frying pan and into the fire!

Monsters 101, Book Three: "Devil Take the Hindmost"
From Nerd to Magician! - In this third segment of the 1,500 page tale, the adventures of Pugroff and Mort are in full swing! A keyed up Mort has taken several impressive steps towards realizing his dream of becoming a true magician, and in the devil world of Dharokalee there are plenty of thrills and dangers to test his resolve, much to his partner’s irritation. Rivals and enemies abound as the two adventurers find themselves in constant need of proving their worth to the snobby devil royal family, master magicians who are both jealous and impressed by Mort’s talents, as well as dismissive of Pugroff’s apparent low upbringing. An ancient custom requires the king to grant Mort his fondest wish, but first, as the admiration of Kymbir, royal princess of the local devil tribe, blossoms into a full on crush of epic proportions, there is only one thing for Mort to do... have a battle to the death with her sorcerer fiance!

Monsters 101, Book Four: "Late Enrollment"
An Education in Monstertude! - Pugroff and Mort finally return to earth from their two and a half books of interdimensional travel, but it’s not time for relaxing and Hero Bars™ just yet. Reunions with worried sick loved ones are due, particularly worried loved one who though the boys had died through some fallout from the Tanglewood Middle School massacre. While Mort’s grandmother takes steps to keep an eye on him that threaten to put a serious curb on any further adventuring, Pugroff’s dysfunctionally tragic household combined with his new monstrous appearance have him make a decision that is as sad as it is logical. Meanwhile the three monsters have successfully won the super-weapon that will enable them to enact sweet revenge upon the treacherous former bully who owes them his new found power!

Monsters 101, Book Five: "Monsters & Monarchy"
Wall to Wall Super Action! - A surprising reveal for Pugroff in this segment when he and Tanglewood Middle School’s Principal Smith discover each others’ secret identities. It turns out that Smith is retired former crime fighter Eye of Justice, who gives the monster some sound advice on some issues that have been plaguing him. Meanwhile Azoratain the trickster dragon is both surprised and delighted that the three monsters’ quest for the legendary faerie battle axe Dragon’s Fang was successful, and he comes to steal it for himself! Proving to be easier said than done when such a weapon is wielded by the ferocious Pugroff, the wily worm enlists the aid of the former bully’s oldest foe, Cliff the Hall Monitor, who is resurrected from the grave and given enough power to enable their momentous battle to continue where it left off… with Cliff beating the heck out of Pugroff!

Monsters 101, Book Six: "Pieces of the Puzzle"
On the Event Horizon of Pure Evil! - Mort the boy sorcerer has gained his most notable magical skill to date, the ability to access the spirit world at will. The unseen entities on the Otherside are all too willing to instruct their eager pupil in the shamanistic arcane arts, but Mort’s studies must take a back seat when his second sight discovers a mysterious, thieving menace stalking the showrooms of a famous Oasis City museum, a place dear to his heart from childhood. Mort & Pugroff desperately attempt to rescue an ancient artifact the entities pilfer before they are able to unleash a literal hell on earth upon humanity. But all of this may be in vain as that very earth belches up a diabolical force that renders Dragon’s Fang itself useless, while Pugroff displays symptoms of a sickness that very well may result in an actual Armageddon of total destruction!

Monsters 101, Book Seven: "Eye in the Sky"

Despair! for the End Is Nigh! - Way back in Book Two, the devil High Magician Pherlyren told Mort that in order to achieve his heart’s desire, he must find an earth magician mentor. The sorcerer pointed him in the direction of the Golden Order of the Encircled Serpent, whose members are the best of the best of all Shemesu Heru third eye practitioners. In this book Mort has finally found one… just in time for the end of the world! The mysterious circumstances as to how exactly Pugroff gained his power are revealed, and it turns out he is the avatar of an all-powerful demonic force determined to take over the universe. When the mighty Seventh Unicorn also shows up to help subdue the possessed Pugroff, Mort’s dimension hopping skills are put to good use as the three heroes have no other choice but to confront the horror on its own turf!

Monsters 101, Book Eight: "Little Boy King"
It’s Not Easy Being the Monster King! - No longer the avatar of Irylor the First King, and stripped of his powers, the king of the monsters is now a mere human child. Although he insists on still being called “Pugroff,” and continues to wield the magic axe Dragon’s Fang, it is clear that both the little boy king and his loyal monster crew are way over their heads in attempting to defend the Nasheran throne from the immensely powerful tenth generation super monsters who are constantly challenging for it. Realizing that only a potent magic user can restore his former might, the king decides to make a deal with the devil and summons the dragon Azoratain and convinces him to return his power in exchange for his heart’s desire… Dragon’s Fang itself! Meanwhile Mort’s quest to find a mentor continues, although his decision to enlist the aid of the strange unseen entities may not be the wisest of choices.

Monsters 101, Book Nine: "Speak of the Devil"
Vengeance Is Shaped like a Devil! - Kymbir, devil princess of Dharokalee, did not take Mort’s rejection of her well. Her heart break-fueled temper, backed by the fact that she’s actually a far more powerful magician than her father Chief Karvek, has left the ten million year old tribal city Tcharen Koh in devastated ruins, and most of the population stuffed in the palace dungeons. Her brother prince Kyslo was able to escape into the spirit realm where a chance encounter with the object of his sister’s distress gives the mischievous little imp opportunity to beg Mort for help, as well as eat humble pie for being such a jerk during the boy magician’s previous visit. All well and good, but what can a guilt-ridden Mort possibly do to calm down a furious magician princess with the power to split the planet in half?

Monsters 101, Book Ten: "Class Dismissed"
The Only Way for School to End! - The real King Pugroff is back with all of his powers intact… and a little something extra. As a true Nasheran monster (with all that may imply!) the king has made a total commitment to his adopted people, and will not only vehemently defend the throne, but also Nasheran honor. Inviting all the monarchs, leaders, and sovereign representatives of the world to a banquet of sparkly goodies, he proclaims that he shall consider any disrespect toward the monster race an open act of war! Meanwhile a crushed Mort, having been told he can no longer hang out at Castle Nashera, has a brutal confrontation with an angry Cliff, the stubborn African Architects, a Principal Smith who is once again ready to return to a life of high adventure, and an eerie group of the unseen who are savagely determined to make the boy magician follow their frighteningly alien way of life at the ultimate cost!

Willy Pugg

Willy Pugg is the most successful bully Tanglewood Middle School ever had. Over-sized for his age and unusually strong, "The Pugg" has been striking terror into kids smaller than him for years. Very sad and prone to low, low bouts of depression, a peek into the bully's home life revealed an abusive father and zero support. The offer to belong to a group that appreciates him for HIM is way too appealing, despite the fact that the group in question eats human kids for breakfast.


Mort

When he was very young Mort's grandmother broke his heart when she told him that there was no such thing as "real magic." Instinctively recognizing that this wasn't true, he through himself into his math classes and structuring his mind around this universes integer-based language capable of decoding and manipulating our reality. As the partner of the new monster Pugroff, Mort was delighted to discover that magick was very real and his studies into mathematics had set him brilliantly ahead on the road to mastering the Wondrous Arts.



Maescus

The big, blue monster called Maescus (mis*kis) is the leader of the original trio that made the horrible deal with the school bully Willy Pugg. Maescus is very ambitious and is always working a plan designed to make him and his two cronies live in monster-style and comfort. A third generation monster (meaning he is a hybrid monster x3 with bear, bat and bull ancestry) Maescus is somewhat of a bully himself and doesn't mind running over people that he thinks is weaker than he is. He is loyal to his friends and is famous for always keeping his word no matter what the cost.



Benkom

The first and only monster magician, Benkom was the gopher/slave of a sorceror for many centuries. But because the monster race is notorious for being very, very, very bad at learning magick, Benkom only came away from the experience with a couple of spells in his head. Be that as it may, the second generation tiger/shark monster is one of the most powerful of his people and of course he had great ambitions... until his former partner Maescus stranded him on the alien world of Dharokalee and left him for dead.


Porgram

One of Maescus' flunkies, this first generation pig monster is strong, but lazy and argumentative. He's a sucker for a good plan, especially if it promises to get him more to eat. The old dangling carrot routine will get him every time... that plus a slap upside the head.


Lodeth

Lodeth is a first generation lizard monster, and was recruited onto Maescus' team because of his phenomenal talent: He is the proud owner of the single most potent venom on earth. As impressive as that is, Lodeth is also valuable for his hard work and unflinching loyalty.

On the con side, Lodeth isn't the sharpest knife in the drawer and will often find himself in tricky situations because he just "went with it."


Pugroff

The ferocious-looking, shiney new monster called Pugroff isn't as bad as his bullying previous incarnation, despite the fact that he can tear a bus in half. Taking his new "hero" role seriously, his only real roadblock is the fact that he's not used to being a good guy and old habits die hard. He's had to work very hard to be a friend to Mort, but he's relieved to find that practice makes perfect... he only wants to punch a nerd MOST of the time as opposed to ALL of the time now-a-days.



Kymbir

Kymbir is one of the most powerful magicians on Dharokalee, but because her tribe's culture is every bit as sexist as any in Earth's history it means very little. The menfolk give her a begrudging respect fearing her power, but she will never be included within any major decision making processes. Even her younger brother is held with more honor than she. As she is still young for one of her race, Kymbir rarely thinks about these things. The time may come however when her own ambitions may significantly outgrow her peoples' petty foolishness.




How Each Monsters 101 Book is Created

Determine what I want to accomplish by the end of the 6 chapter, 22 page page book For example: "Transform a mean school yard bully into a heroic monster." One 22 page chapter at a time, determine what objectives in the tale are needed to logically reach the goal above. For example: Chapter 1, show a typical day in the life of the world's meanest bully. Chapter 2, the three monsters give the bully an offer he can't refuse, etc. One chapter at a time, block off specific numbers of pages and roughly describe the narrative of that chapter. For example: Pages 1-5 shows Willy Pugg terrorizing the students of Tanglewood Middle School. Create the Thumbnail Script, a mini version of the chapter on 8.5" x 11" paper in which the final dialog and page/panel layouts are made in their definitive form. This is the final writing stage. Rule the 10" x 15" image area on the finished artwork sheets of 11" x 17" paper, and also rule the panels using an HB mechanical pencil. Using the same pencil, lightly sketch in all artwork and lettering. Use the Ames Lettering Guide to rule the appropriate lines in the word balloons that were lightly sketched in, and ink all lettering with a #103 crow quill, and B-6 Speedball dip pens. Use the #103 crow quill and watercolor brush to ink in all artwork. Do not fill in large areas of black with the brush. When the ink is dry, use a white vinyl eraser to remove all pencil marks. Scan pages into computer, and fix all inking mistakes in Adobe Photoshop. Create a numbered PDF file template at 6.14" x 9.21" and place cleaned up artwork into templates. Add publisher pages like Title Page and Copyright Page, etc. Create cover file and PUBLISH!


Warning

M. Rasheed does not create children’s stories, but instead writes for his peer group. His tales take after the pre-Comics Code model, and blend both genre and demographic lines similar to the European comic book literary form.
Often dealing with themes of graphic violence and adult humor, Monsters 101 should not be placed on shelves alongside general audience titles.

Are Muslims Allowed to Draw?

Muhammad Rasheed - Where's the ayah in the Qur'an that backs up the “anti-drawing representational pictures” hadith?  Throw down your rod and show me your argument!
As I recall, in Surah 96, Allah says He taught man the use of the pen. What do we do with pens? Why it turns out we write and draw with them to record knowledge and give messages. Imagine that? The written word often evolved from more complex pictograms/hieroglyphs, and SURELY Allah speaketh the truth. What is your proof that a Muslim isn’t allowed to draw based on God’s Word? 
Throw down your rod IF you’re able.
Muhammad Rasheed - You have NOTHING on your side of the argument that I should take seriously so stand down, pseudo-religious philosopher.
Michael Daniels - Who are you arguing with, Bruh?
Muhammad Rasheed - Fellow Islamicists who are anti-drawings/picture taking. Why? You want a little? HUH??? You want some????
Muhammad Rasheed - [gets in boxing stance, circa 1850]
Michael Daniels - Well, to be honest, I'm really not too down with the whole drawing thing...mainly because I suck at it....I''m more of a thousand words type of guy... Does the Qu'ran say "don't draw stuff"? If do...shame on you, heathen!!!!
Muhammad Rasheed - It absolutely does not, which is the point of my status.
Muhammad Rasheed - You should take drawing lessons. With your writing skills you are only 50% cool. Drawing powers will take you over the top.
Michael Daniels - So some dudes who knew some people who talked to some folks who was the great grand son of the guy that shined Muhammed's shoes mad that mess up?
Michael Daniels - Uh, did I mention I can juggle?
Tami Bhuiyan - Yikes I posted on your wall not the thread..yet another vindictive Facebook timeline issue!!! And Rasheed..can't argue religion, anyone's momma or politics. I can however argue that if this Daniels dude can juggle then he has some social defect to compensate as God does not give with 2 hands..(=
Muhammad Rasheed - The jury is still out as whether he can actually juggle or not. lol
Tami Bhuiyan - And rash..bro if you say fellow islamicists then are you BY YOUR OWN ADMISSION...feelin a lil guilty with your current occupation? Dude.
Muhammad Rasheed - Slow down, peewee. "Fellow Islamicists" was said in jocularity. I feel not a shred of guilt because Surah 96 is 100% the truth about how Allah feels about us using "the pen."
Any Muslim who tells me I'm not supposed to draw is confused.
Tami Bhuiyan - Who you callin pee wee? Is this a reference to the Herman dude? Pfft i took his bike and roughed up that wimp years ago..notice ain't no pee wees big adventure part 2??!! that's right, COZ THAT DUDE DINT INSURE HIS RIDE.
Muhammad Rasheed - hahahahahahaha!!
Tami Bhuiyan - Yeah I wouldn't listen to a Muslim telling you that you can't draw~> because the dude who said that is A HYPOCRITE as in maths class from early on he was drawing his wonky triangles with the rest of the peeps..or ILLITERATE..as in got kicked out at an early age, couldn't draw a triangle and smoked in the locker room to deal with the repercussions and got expelled and is now a bitter man walkin around telling peeps they can't draw. SMH tried to pull the pee wee job with me and I was like nuh man you can't read a map.
Tami Bhuiyan - And yes sura 96 "al qalam" all about the pen. Knowledge is sunnat. Adjournment of the religious issues i am worried i will say something incorrect and lose my ramadan happies.
Muhammad Rasheed - That's EXACTLY what I suspected about those fools!
Muhammad Rasheed - You can't lose your Ramadan happies if you argue for truth, Tami-head. Relax.
Tami Bhuiyan - True story they all walking around just bitter because their triangle look like a weird corn chip..and then someone was like DUDE!!! YOUR TRIANGLE GOT 6 POINTS!! DEVIL WORSHIPPER!!! And therein lies the foundation of a judgemental existence .
Muhammad Rasheed - hahahahaha!! is THAT how it started?! lol
Tami Bhuiyan - Tami head actually sounds endearing ..(= but to use that back on you sounds weirdly contagious ..rash-head..?? Seriously you wanna go there?
Muhammad Rasheed - If you were using it back on me you'd use MY first name.
Tami Bhuiyan - Yeep...it's really freaky how all these supposed islamicists all got ancestors who went to school in the Salem witch trials era...and they be just picking and choosing things that will rectify years of bullying...you just gotta say to them dude its ok not everyone can draw a triangle and just watch the lil guy break down in gratitude.
Muhammad Rasheed - ...or sic the authorities on me to give me 80 lashes.
Tami Bhuiyan - True story . But if I were to use your first name it would come out as a compliment-type comment and you know I keep that stuff like red sour candy worms. MINE ALL MINE...u gotta save a little kitty stuck on top of a tree in a lightning storm with rabid dogs surrounding if you want some of that..
Muhammad Rasheed - hm.
Muhammad Rasheed - where do they keep these kitties stuck in trees w/rabid dog attachments again?
Muhammad Rasheed - do they even have "kitties" in Australia? if so, are they really felines/cats or something crazy and/or poisonous?
Tami Bhuiyan - Lol plenty of Hadith are ignored in order for people to "successfully" run a country. The authorities in question are like them terminator robots in my opinion...I don't think they are real people. Dint you ever wonder where all that oil money was going to? Not the country (still listed as third world, more homeless than residents) not the guerilla warfare (they just took the bombs and stuff from the US and went all scorpion when they got caught..) all oil proceeds are going to make robots that look like peeps who are programmed. They probably thought governer arnie look so cool with a rifle..wow ima get my whole department lookin like that..
Tami Bhuiyan - Yes there are kitties everywhere. There is one that habitually gets stuck in a tree near my window, picks a fight with a possum, loses and falls off. Thrice has the kitty instigated a riot with other kitties and the possum had to retaliate by bringing in his cousins from the westside. Not really sure who won the battle..but there is a rather odd looking breed walking around..I have dubbed them kissums.
Tami Bhuiyan - You save that weird lookin kitty from its cage fighting ring, you get the candy (=
Muhammad Rasheed - lol @ "kissums"
Muhammad Rasheed - What does it look like? Tell me an' I'm on it!
Michael Daniels - WHOA....WHOA.....WHOA....WHOA!!!!!!!!... I can too juggle.
Muhammad Rasheed - Psh!!
Michael Daniels - Please tell me "Psh!!" is Arabic for..."Oh, my bad Rev. You're probably pretty good."
Muhammad Rasheed - Abu Sulaym Ibrahim Danjuma where are you? This is the thread we're suppose to be bickering in.
Abu Sulaym Ibrahim Danjuma - Surely in the prophet is the best character. Who can explain the quran better than the one who is been sent with.so also there are so many verse that say Allah created plants for man to benefit from. Alcohol is from plant but Allah forbid us taking alcohol. And mind you that verse is not the way u understood it. Please brother check tafsir bin khathir it will explain that verse for you.
Abu Sulaym Ibrahim Danjuma - To clear up what you don't know,islam does not condemn drawing in general but condemn drawing animate objects.
Muhammad Rasheed - Show me in the Qur'an where "Islam" condemns this, please. According to The One who made me, He's the one that taught me the use of the pen... drawing/writing. He never said I can't draw something. But I may be wrong.
Show me.
Abu Sulaym Ibrahim Danjuma - Go read the commentary of those verse. Maybe you read my explanation once more or repeatedly..
Muhammad Rasheed - In case you didn't notice, I thought your explanation was complete nonsense. If God didn't condemn it, then it's not haram. Period. No one else's opinion matters.
Muhammad Rasheed - Allah is the author of what is a sin and what is not. Some people have a serious problem understanding that basic fact. But their problem has nothing to do with reality. Stop preaching stuff as true what is in fact NOT true, but is only your opinion, please.
Muhammad Rasheed - Thanks.
Tami Bhuiyan - My brothers~> Islam is defined as PEACE and a Muslim will be judged ONLY BY ALLAH SUBHANA WA TA ALA on his INTENTIONS ALONE. Not by anyone else~> including but not limited to Islamic scholars, sheikhs, and Cliffs notes. That's all I gotta say about that.
Abu Sulaym Ibrahim Danjuma - @Tami may ALLAH INCREASE you in knowledge. maybe Rasheed only make his sustenance from drawing so is afraid of leaving it
Muhammad Rasheed - TRANSLATION: "I hope you come to realize that other random people are also gods whose opinions matter just as much as the commands of Allah, so if you don’t obey their random interpretations of the deen, then you will be dragged down into hell along those of us who practice shirk."
Abu Sulaym Ibrahim Danjuma - in muslim/bukhary the prophet (saw)said those who make pictures will be asked to put life in it on the day of jugdement and they will not be able to.
Muhammad Rasheed – I heard that in the other thread and already remarked that it is a false hadith that holds no weight to me based on Surah 96… a chapter from the Holy Qur’an, which is the revealed scripture of God on earth.  I notice that you don't really have any kind of argument to give weight to your opinion in this matter, Danjuma.
Tami Bhuiyan - Yes, Inshallah my knowledge will increase and inshallah i will not use this knowledge to benefit my life and people whom I love and pray for. But the second I use this knowledge to judge, belittle or demean others, may Allah take my knowledge away and forgive me.
Muhammad Rasheed - And where is the Qur'anic verse that supports that hadith? Don't you think it odd that Allah Himself... who knows EVERYTHING concerning the unseen... wouldn't have mentioned that at least ONCE?!  Especially considering He told you that He is the One that instructed mankind in the use of the pen?  What do you DO with a pen?
Abu Sulaym Ibrahim Danjuma - to educate once more the prophet said i have been sent with the quran and something like it
Tami Bhuiyan - Gentlemen avoid this discussion~> the holy Quran should not be used as a tool for argument, nor should the words of our beloved prophet sal alaihi wa salam. You wanna get your law and order on, invest in jury duty.
Abu Sulaym Ibrahim Danjuma - if you dont believe in the sayings of the prophet then u are not a muslim
Abu Sulaym Ibrahim Danjuma - TAMI with due respect the guy dont believe in the prophet
Muhammad Rasheed - I also love it when jackasses tell me what I believe or not. lol
Tami Bhuiyan - Surely Allah subhana wa TA ala has mentioned in the Qur'an about judging others, danjuma? Perhaps you should revise the cliffs notes commentary prior to making comments like these.
Muhammad Rasheed - Judging others based on wrongheaded opinions...
Abu Sulaym Ibrahim Danjuma - am not judging him but only telling him to re-proclaim the shadah
Muhammad Rasheed - Sorry but anyone that upholds the hadith OVER the Qur'an is only half a Muslim. Check yourself, Danjuma, because your deen is in danger.
Muhammad Rasheed - (i think this is the new angle i'm going to take, Tami. that was fun. forgive me beforehand at the potential ugly involved. lol)
Tami Bhuiyan - Danjuma..i feel sad for you. When I read Qur'an and then the interpretation and don't understand, I ask my mom and dad to explain. May Allah bless them, they are the only ones who have ever been able to explain to me in a way which made me love Allah and Islam more. Never was there any questioning or judgement to my character, or anyone else's. If you cannot question or EDUCATE without judgement then it is better for you to keep your mouth shut.
Tami Bhuiyan - And no, I don't want to be your friend.
Abu Sulaym Ibrahim Danjuma - well so sorry for people like u who dont believe in the prophet statement they arethe kawarijj whom the prophet has warned us agaist i dont even know am talking to one of them
Abu Sulaym Ibrahim Danjuma - the prophet said those who says my way of life is not pleasing to them surely they are not part of me
Tami Bhuiyan - And Rasheed two wrongs don't make a right bro~> THE HIGH ROAD!!! Take the high road and keep your sadaqahs. Look at your kid~> one day she is going to be in a similar situation unfortunately. Arguing with ignorance promotes ignorance.
Abu Sulaym Ibrahim Danjuma - am very sure peolpe like you dont even know how to observe salat just the the way the prophet has taught us.bcos there is no how you could pray without following the prophet
Muhammad Rasheed - @Tami: I was only kidding (for the most part). lol
Tami Bhuiyan - I'm not going to even bother responding to the fool (WITH ALL DUE RESPECT..).
Abu Sulaym Ibrahim Danjuma - lol he ran away because you dont have point
Abu Sulaym Ibrahim Danjuma - respond
Abu Sulaym Ibrahim Danjuma - or are u tired?
Muhammad Rasheed – This is how it works…
EXAMPLE ONEQur'an says: "Establish regular prayer"Hadith: Establishes regular prayerLogical conclusion: Those hadith are CLEARLY authentic. Allah left it up to the prophet to determine how many salats we are to make. No big deal. He could trust the prophet with that task,  no prob.
EXAMPLE TWOQur'an says: "Allah taught you the use of the pen."Hadith: Claims that using the pen in one of the ways Allah taught will condemn you.Logical Conclusion: Questionable hadith.
Muhammad Rasheed - I ran away from what? This is MY thread and YOU don't have an argument. You hold onto a lot of worthless opinion though. You may wish to let that stuff go.
Tami Bhuiyan - Oooh I read about this and there was a dr Phil special on...Rasheed have you met this Danjuma character? There are like KKK members on Facebook masquerading as "islamicists" with their sole purpose to instigate anger in other Muslims...hmm..Danjuma..?
Muhammad Rasheed - No, I found him answering on a thread from an old friend. He came out of nowhere with his opinions masquerading as truth to attack me.
Abu Sulaym Ibrahim Danjuma - painter or artist i will pray ALLAH TO GIVE YOU ANOTHER JOB SO THAT YOU CAN STOP DRAWING ANIMATE OBJECT
Muhammad Rasheed - I will pray that He gives you the other half of your missing brain.
If it be His will, of course.
Tami Bhuiyan - Ahh so he COULD actually be billy ray danged joner, one of the KKK rednecked minions? I say excellent training in that department. He even got the same grammatical errors that are found with the middle eastern and Asian populus. How funny.
Muhammad Rasheed - maybe there's a course they take...?
Abu Sulaym Ibrahim Danjuma - TAMI I THOUGHT u ar there to mediate us but is quit unfortunate that u are also igniting the flame. i respect women so much but i wont respond to the insult u vetted on me
Abu Sulaym Ibrahim Danjuma - just stay glue and watch
Muhammad Rasheed - Your feelings are hurt? aww.
Muhammad Rasheed - poor danjuma…
Tami Bhuiyan - Yup run by foghorn leghorn. COZ HO CHI MINH DIDNT COME WITH AN INTERPRETER.
Muhammad Rasheed - makes sense. lol
Abu Sulaym Ibrahim Danjuma - i never insulted you guys u are just feeling boiled by my opinion but you cant help it .
Abdul Waqas - my mom didnt allow me to take art lessons becoz of religious stuffs....... i still hate that day. though i love my mom.
Muhammad Rasheed - From what i can gather from his more recent babbling, he expects you to sit and watch him skillfully dissect my argument and prove me wrong. let me know when that happens, huh? Apparently he's waiting for some unknown big, dramatic moment to reveal this great proof of argument that somehow trumps Surah 96.
Muhammad Rasheed - Danjuma your worthless opinion, which is not backed by anything of truth, IS insulting all by itself.
Tami Bhuiyan - Yep typical of their kind. IN MY FOGHORN VOICE: "we gonna come up there and ima say, IMA SAY we gonna shoot up everthing in sight...what..hold up..what you mean this bed sheet make me look fat??? MOMMMA!!!"
Abdul Waqas - wait. my comment got lost in this fight. so who's fighting with whom? *grabs popcorn* oh btw, anyone who says comedy is a sin, i'll 'bleep' slap that person.
Muhammad Rasheed - [trying to imagine a foghorn leghorn impression filtered through an australian accent]
Muhammad Rasheed -  ...
Muhammad Rasheed - [gives up]
Muhammad Rasheed - [head hurts]
Abu Sulaym Ibrahim Danjuma - is that the only verse you know brother?
Abdul Waqas - awwww how about a freedom pill that clears headache? rasheed i support you completely man and i think being talented in whatever way, is a gift from Allah.
Muhammad Rasheed - @Waqas: This Danjuma character claims that drawing animate objects is haram based on a questionable hadith that lacks any kind of support from the Word of Allah, yet is genuinely surprised when he is treated like a buffoon for this retarded opinion by a Muslim professional cartoonist.
Tami Bhuiyan - Ah this explains it. Freud wrote the book on it but alas the poor child is in denial and won't accept the diagnosis of obvious mother issues. His mom didn't let him draw~> cannot hate his mother~> hence transfers all that hate and rage into people who draw.
Abdul Waqas - abu sulaym: what are you good at?
Muhammad Rasheed - He's good at talking out of the side of his neck...
Muhammad Rasheed - Abu Sulaym Ibrahim Danjuma wrote: “is that the only verse you know brother?”
 In this discussion, it's the only one I NEED to know.  What do YOU have?
Abdul Waqas - tami. if you are refering to me, i took those drawings and used in words. and i support drawings
Abdul Waqas - what's danjuma though?
Muhammad Rasheed - No, Tami was using your comment as a possible explanation for Danjuma's issues.
Tami Bhuiyan - Lol. Again, high road. We have established billy ray here is just a trained minion of the foghorn leghorn school of redneck. Ain't nothin more here. Keep the peace, brothers!!! And Abdul lol your mom got you outta art class? Awesome lady(=
Abu Sulaym Ibrahim Danjuma - are creating a team?
Abdul Waqas - haaaaa i see. now i get it. that's what im saying. i used that rage into writings and character creations, delegating between good and evil. what the artist does is conveying the message to its people, that good stands firm against all evil, no matter the evil big or small.
btw, some of the old scholars used drawings of people that connected with islam (except Muhammad pbuh and his associates) to convey people who didnt understand, what was really going on
Abu Sulaym Ibrahim Danjuma - three to one
Abdul Waqas - wait. tami and abu are team? and me and rasheed are? and who is danjuma?
Tami Bhuiyan - Omg this Abdul character is so innocently cute loves it!!!!
Abdul Waqas - so i get it. tami you are confusing sometimes so three to one, i like it *more pepsi please and popcorn too*
Abdul Waqas - NOW I GET IT so danjuma is abu sulaym? *sherlock holmes struck*
Abu Sulaym Ibrahim Danjuma - yes
Abdul Waqas - oh abu, btw sherlock holmes is a fictional character, but he wasnt drawn, he was written. still im in hell if i follow him?
Abu Sulaym Ibrahim Danjuma - ???
Muhammad Rasheed - I'm pretty sure there is a sherlock holmes comic book adaptation somewhere...
Abdul Waqas - you do know that Thor, Captain America (who were drawn) are in the same category of Sherlock Holmes and Doctor Who (who were written)?
i remember, some idiot, told me that creating fictional characters in books is the same sin as creating them in comics. want to say something about that? or are they not drawn?
Abdul Waqas - yep. i have his 3 books, where with the writings, there are some sketches and they are pretty old rasheed
Abu Sulaym Ibrahim Danjuma - i can give you answer to your question only if i understood what you meant by that
Muhammad Rasheed - ^lol
Muhammad Rasheed - every now and again he actually makes sense.
Muhammad Rasheed - Define "old." (this should be good coming from a 17 year old)
Muhammad Rasheed - Okay, where's this teslim quote you were talking about?
Abdul Waqas - wait. im not 17 :S im 23 somewhat and who's making sense?
Muhammad Rasheed - danjuma for a brief, fraction of a milli-sec.
Muhammad Rasheed - 17. 23. it is all one.
Muhammad Rasheed - Define "old."
Abu Sulaym Ibrahim Danjuma - rashman you need to attend quranic class because u ar very poor in the religion
Abdul Waqas - 1993? and one more book i had that i think my brother in 1984 used when he was in school
Abdul Waqas - Rashman? that's a nice name dude *new character creation*
Abu Sulaym Ibrahim Danjuma - u dont even knw what teslim is poor you> then y the bragging in the deen
Abu Sulaym - Ibrahim Danjuma referring to rasheedd
Abdul Waqas - teslim is music.
Abdul Waqas - Teslim
Muhammad Rasheed - Danjuma said, "u see u dont respond to teslim," and I interpreted that to mean he posted a response quoting teslim. Apparently it was just more babbling (having only half a brain tends to do that to people).
Abu Sulaym Ibrahim Danjuma - teslim means greeting
Abu Sulaym Ibrahim Danjuma - rasheed pls goto class and understand islam better than the way you are
Muhammad Rasheed - What does "teslim" (and my understanding or lack thereof) have to do with Islam again?
Muhammad Rasheed - You speak in half-English, foghorn leghorn speak. It's not my fault I didn't understand what you were talking about. *shrug*
Tami Bhuiyan - HAHAHA this was just the classic laugh that I needed!!! A few things I need to clarify~>...
Tami Bhuiyan - MATE. I don't have an Aussie accent, ORRIGHT?
Tami Bhuiyan - I will never play on the same team as Danjuma unless he (eloquently speaking) grabs a mitt and catches a clue.
Tami Bhuiyan - Abdul why have you never commented on THE RASHMANS posts before? Haha I'm still laughing. And I agree. 23=17
Abdul Waqas - Coz Rashman is what gotham wants, not what it needs right now. He is a silent guardian, a watchful protector... A Rash Knight.
And please, 23 is not 17 Go to hell, people
Muhammad Rasheed - It's only 6 years older. How much different can it be really? I mean really?
Abdul Waqas - smh. fine. im 17.
Tami Bhuiyan - Exactly~> until you turn 25, you still may as well be 16. Don't hate the playa, abby. Thems are the rules. Gotham city is batman...ah I have made the connection!!! He becomes RASHMAN after too many sessions with robin in the bat mobile..??
Muhammad Rasheed - Abdul Waqas wrote: "smh. fine. im 17."
HA!!  I knew it!!  (i always win)
Abdul Waqas - exactly. shame on you Rashman. "sessions" with robin. tsk tsk tsk.
Tami Bhuiyan - I think Robin was an evil mastermind behind the whole thing~> think about it...the dude is classic jan Brady. He never gets the glory, never gets to drive, and is batmans lil bitch WITH NO PAY~>??!! AND he doesn't ever go loco or rebel. Obviously has some vengeful retribution in the making. So he goes and puts some crystals in batmans ribena and seduces him. But he can't figure out how to unzip the bat suit and then out of desperation bangs batman around in the manner of a tomato sauce jar that you can't get the lid off and batman gets heat rash as a result. Completely justifiable~> he got the keys.
Abdul Waqas - in my head: *marry me :O* that, was so brilliant!!! omg! so robin did all this for just the keys to the batmobile? amazing. i want to be robin *sobbing* as in nightwing. not, the gay robin of 1950s. :|
Tami Bhuiyan - Hahaha the gay robin of the 1950s inspired the women's movement I think. Too many wives identify with robin~> don't get to drive, talk back or question the man and don't get paid or laid unless they drug the dude..nightwing robin is after many therapy sessions with the foam bat, milky ways and a dartboard. And he also got the lil superpower in his belt. Batman got no superpower and his ears are misplaced.
Muhammad Rasheed - I don't even KNOW a 'Robin!'
Muhammad Rasheed -  >:(
Tami Bhuiyan - Robin is a pseudonym. Be very wary of co workers offering you beverages and looking longingly at your ride..
Tami Bhuiyan - Ah hideous you ate another member of the foghorns crew?
Tami Bhuiyan - Wow autocorrect has made my intended comment so much better!'
Tami Bhuiyan - Seriously Rasheed~> where do you find these generic Barneys? Is this part of some asshole outreach program?
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