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Countering the GOP Gun Control Talking Point

Abdur Rasheed - Fact-Free Liberals By Thomas Sowell

Abdur Rasheed - Thomas Sowell wrote: "Words seem to carry far more weight than facts among those liberals who argue as if rent-control laws actually control rents and gun-control laws actually control guns.”

Lets see…

Abdur Rasheed - Thomas Sowell wrote: “It does no good to point out to them that the two American cities where rent-control laws have existed longest and strongest — New York and San Francisco — are also the two cities with the highest average rents.”

If rent was low would they have to set limits on how high the rent can be??

Abdur Rasheed - Thomas Sowell wrote: “Nor does it make a dent on them when you point out evidence, from both sides of the Atlantic, that tightening gun-control laws does not reduce gun crimes, including murder. It is not uncommon for gun crimes to rise when gun-control laws are tightened. Apparently armed criminals prefer unarmed victims.”

Criminals obtain guns legally. Unless you believe that Colt, S&W, Glock, and the rest are selling guns out of the back door of their warehouses and risking prison time. In Detroit we bought our guns by getting somebody to get their permit to purchase and buying guns over the counter, registering them, taking off the serial numbers marking up the price and selling them, or going out of State to the south with very little gun laws and bringing them back. If you want to regulate illegal gun sells then regulate the LEGAL gun sales and we couldn’t have bought SHIT.

Facts matter when you’re informed.

Street guns are disposable. Nobody with any sense is going to carry around a weapon with multiple crimes on it or you with will either have to do time for something you didn’t do or snitch on somebody. Reduce the flow of new guns and you can reduce/dry up the illegal market.

Gun laws work. There are very few reported cases of FULLY automatic gun crimes in the US.

Why?

Because getting a fully automatic weapon is damn near impossible on the street or even legally.

They are too heavily regulated so the cost is too expensive. A semi-automatic AR-15 that you can buy at your local gun dealer with no bells and whistles starts at about $800.

Same weapon FULLY automatic is about $35,000 and up.

Machine Guns For Sale – GunBroker.com

The regulations on how to make a FULLY automatic weapon are such a close guarded trade secret that it’s virtually IMPOSSIBLE for even an experienced military trained armorer to modify one.

The San Bernardino shooters tried to modify their semi-automatic AR-15’s to automatic themselves and FAILED.

“The husband and wife responsible for killing 14 people in a shooting in San Bernardino this week tried to illegally modify a semi-automatic rifle to turn it into a machine gun, federal authorities said Friday.

A Smith & Wesson M&P15 found with the couple after a gun battle with police Wednesday was altered in an attempt to enable the weapon to be fired automatically, said Meredith Davis, a spokeswoman for the federal Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives.  The modification is illegal under federal law, she said. Initial tests, she said, show that the modification did not work and the gun could not be fired automatically, Davis said. She said more tests were yet to be done.”

San Bernardino shooters tried to illegally modify rifle before rampage

REGULATIONS CAN WORK.

In 1995 there was a report done by the Bureau of justice to track what kind of guns are used in various crimes and various other findings.

US Department of Justice - Guns Used in Crime

I KNOW that this study was done over 20 years ago. As a matter of fact IN THE STUDY itself it says that they will update the number annually but this was the last one done.

Why?

Because right after this the NRA lobbied Congress and STOPPED RESEARCHING GUNS AND GUN CRIMES!

How The NRA Killed Federal Funding For Gun Violence Research

Then they issued this talking point:

Thomas Sowell wrote: “Nor does it make a dent on them when you point out evidence, from both sides of the Atlantic, that tightening gun-control laws does not reduce gun crimes, including murder. It is not uncommon for gun crimes to rise when gun-control laws are tightened. Apparently armed criminals prefer unarmed victims.”

So STOP the flow of information and we are going to talk about how it’s all a big mystery and we have no idea how criminals get guns so everybody should just go and buy guns.

The NRA has done MORE to harm African Americans in the last 20 years than the KKK. (see: ‘Stand Your Ground’ laws)

The NRA has ALWAYS been all about the free flow of guns except that ONE time…

Fear of a Black Gun Owner

Muhammad Rasheed - Abdur Rasheed wrote: "If rent was low would they have to set limits on how high the rent can be??"

The trend was that the wealthy would buy up the rent-controlled properties in those two cities, and over the last several decades, would hold onto it as legacy property. The controls discouraged new property building.

Abdur Rasheed - I can buy houses 3 for $1 in the D. I don't have any skin in that game. I've busted 2 out of 3 of his pet issues. I'm just going to call it on the third. He has a 66% bullshit rate without me fact checking his last one.

I'm just going to go ahead and NOT believe him.

Muhammad Rasheed - Abdur Rasheed wrote: "I can buy houses 3 for $1 in the D."

Detroit is not New York or San Francisco who have astronomically expensive real estate, and where the rents are controlled by gov regulations that benefit the wealthy alone instead of the poor they were intended to help.

And gun control isn't one of Sowell's pet issues. He only spoke on it because he has that regular Townhall column that he needs content for. It's easy to go on a rant for whatever the top trending top is of the hour are when you HAVE to produce content on a regular deadline. This obviously causes him to engage in the same negative behavior among the academic community he condemned in his autobiography, i.e., when academic scholars... who are by their nature intellectual specialists in very specific/limited fields... have a tendency to be very vocally opinionated outside of their well-researched fields. Except for those times when he summarizes the main thesis of one of his celebrated books for Townhall content, I generally skim through them with little interest, because he does often just coast on GOP stuff in those, just for the easy applause (especially when he brings up obama's name at all, which always leaves me irritated/annoyed). I'm not surprised you easily slapped the gun control topic out of his hand without breaking a sweat, but that topic isn't the reason I'm a fan of his work.

I'm not aware of the "other" pet issue of his you were supposed to have busted; I'll check out your Timeline to see if it's there. As an official challenge, I don't expect you to have a counter for his minimum wage argument, nor for his affirmative action one.

Abdur Rasheed - It seems like the rent is "controlled" by the market and capped by the local government.

Is that wrong?

Muhammad Rasheed - No, the control is referring to the government cap itself.

Abdur Rasheed - So if you're a property owner with a 20 unit building and 1 bed room apartments in the area used to go for $3000 a month but the government sets a limit of $2000 per month you're saying that the government is controlling the price wether than the owner of the property?

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HYPOCRISY - Bias in Religious Group Reporting

Melvin Schmuck -


Judy Campbell - one sick fafo! Long may he rot!

Cyntia King - Abso-friggin-lutely!

David Hoover - Soooooo fucking stupid. Islam, itself preaches hatred and intolerance. McVeigh was fighting a corrupt government, responding to the government murders of The Branch Davidian in Waco. (NOT that I agree with his methods). The DIFFERENCE is that neither Hinduism, Christianity, Taoism, nor many other isms COMMAND their followers to MURDER those who won't convert to Islam. The Koran has between 80-90 passages that do just that. The 80% of Muslims who are NOT violent or terrorists are NOT following the Koran. That is WHY the "radicals", the ones who are ACTUALLY DOING WHAT THE BOOK SAYS, have no problem killing MODERATE Muslims, because they are considered "apostates". YOU SHOULD ACTUALLY READ THE KORAN so you'll KNOW the truth instead of believing the liberal propaganda that EVERYONE on Earth just wants to live in peace and harmony...because they DON'T. Muslims have been attacking the USA since approximately 1785. Try reading some history.

Don F Stout - And yet, the fact still remains that he was a white American Christian, that murdered a 168 other Americans for his beliefs.

Steven Ben-Off Abrams - Read about Timothy McVeigh's beliefs, compare them to the tenets of mainstream Christianity.

Christian Identity

Michael J. Salerno - Exactly! Nothing about "Christian Identity" is Christlike at all. Fwiw - "Christlike" is the transliteration of the word "Christian"

Stephen Miles Lewis - There's a lot more to that case ... not least of which is a 3 perp and govt involvement.

Scott’s collection of Oklahoma City Bombing Clips

Ian Jaydid - I just went ahead and disliked all religions equally.

Steven Ben-Off Abrams - @Melvin... you're my FB friend, but this meme you posted is bullshit and for chrissakes do some research before you identify Timothy McVeigh as a "Christian" - the perpetrators of San Bernadino were in line with an interpretation of Islam (ISIS) that is so mainstream that Islam's most prestigious theological school, Al-Azhar University in Cairo, refuses to condemn them as "un-Islamic" (look it up!) - meanwhile, Tim McVeigh's version of "Christianity" is so fringe-y that it's called "the Christian Identity Movement" - it's an insane, racist sect that NOBODY regards as remotely Christian

An Accurate Look at Timothy McVeigh's Beliefs

Steven Ben-Off Abrams - Al Azhar Can't Denounce ISIS as Un-Islamic Even if It Commits 'Every Atrocity'

Steven Ben-Off Abrams - So please - anybody with a critical mind - look up Tim McVeigh's totally fringe understanding of "Christianity." then compare that with ISIS/San Bernardino shooters understanding of "Islam," then come back and show me whose belief system has more basis in scripture. (hint - it's Islam)

Kenneth Lawrence Schroeder - "The Turner Diaries"... Christian Identity... all part of McVeigh's belief system. He was a 'Christian' the same way an ISIS member is a 'Muslim'

Steven Ben-Off Abrams - Not so. ISIS's interpretation of Islam is much more mainstream in Islam than McVeigh's "Christian Identity" is in Christianity

What ISIS Really Wants

Steven Ben-Off Abrams - It's misleading to compare a belief based in a lunatic fringe sect of Christianity to a mainstream (but violent) version of Sunni Islam. It doesn't take much study to show how close the beliefs of ISIS/the San Bernardino killers adhere to everyday Islam and how far Tim McVeigh's beliefs stray from conventional Christianity. It's not worth arguing over. Whatever the excuse-makers defending "peaceful" Islam tell you, jihadism is founded in conventional interpretations of Islam. "Christian Identity" is a fringe phenomenon. Look it up

Christian Identity 

Kenneth Lawrence Schroeder - Well Steven, when I walked through Morocco, Turkey and Egypt, and I was given money, food and lodging by mainstream Muslim, I never got the impression they were remotely like ISIS. On the other hand, most of the conservative Christians I know believe Israel must extend from the Nile to the Euphrates-- and they support Israel in that sense, though they don't like Jews-- and a third temple must be built so that Jesus can come down from the clouds etc etc. Furthermore, I've heard them say, some teenaged girls who have abortions should be executed-- there is a precedence for this in the Old Testament...

Kenneth Lawrence Schroeder - @Steven Ben-Off Abrams... ISIS does not represent a mainstream version of Islam. How many Muslims do you know personally?

Steven Ben-Off Abrams - No argument with you. I'm not saying Muslims can't be good people. I'm saying jihadism comes out of mainstream interpretations of Islam. This isn't an argument you're going to win.

Steven Ben-Off Abrams - I'm happy to hear your defense of Islam. I agree that jihadism is a perverted vision of Islam. But to point to Timothy McVeigh as a "Christian" terrorist" to counter much more apt examples of Islamic terrorism is a poor argument. You only need to examine McVeigh's beliefs, see how far they are from conventional Christianity, and contrast that with jihadis, who basically believe in the same principles that the spokespeople from the Council on Islamic American Relations do, except with a different emphasis. Ask people from CAIR about jihad. They won't renounce jihad. They will give you an innocuous interpretation of jihad. Whether you define jihad as an inner struggle for righteousness, or as making aggressive war against the infidel, it is still a part of mainstream Islam. That is my point.

Steven Ben-Off Abrams - Christian Identity is more like a white version of the Nation of Islam (NOI) creed than it is like Christianity. There's just no comparison

Nation of Islam 

Steven Ben-Off Abrams - @Kenneth Lawrence Schroeder... I visited Morocco in 1988 and people there were very hospitable to me.

Steven Midrano - @Steven Ben-Off Abrams... Suppose you hear in one of the towns the LORD your God is giving you that some worthless rabble among you have led their fellow citizens astray by encouraging them to worship foreign gods. In such cases, you must examine the facts carefully. If you find it is true and can prove that such a detestable act has occurred among you, you must attack that town and completely destroy all its inhabitants, as well as all the livestock. Then you must pile all the plunder in the middle of the street and burn it. Put the entire town to the torch as a burnt offering to the LORD your God. That town must remain a ruin forever; it may never be rebuilt. Keep none of the plunder that has been set apart for destruction. Then the LORD will turn from his fierce anger and be merciful to you. He will have compassion on you and make you a great nation, just as he solemnly promised your ancestors. "The LORD your God will be merciful only if you obey him and keep all the commands I am giving you today, doing what is pleasing to him." (Deuteronomy 13:13-19 NLT)

Steven Midrano - And there is a lot more where that came from.

Murder in the Bible

Steven Ben-Off Abrams - Yipes! That's terrible. The Bible does portray ancient atrocities. But very few people reading the Bible take these portrayals as commands to go forth and do the same in the present time. This really is a contrast to "jihad," which unfortunately, many Muslims interpret as an ongoing struggle against infidels: "there's a major difference between the Bible, which describes the destruction of an enemy at a point in time, and the Quran, which urges an ongoing struggle to defeat unbelievers."

Is The Bible More Violent Than The Quran?

Muhammad Rasheed - Steven Ben-Off Abrams wrote: "I'm saying jihadism comes out of mainstream interpretations of Islam."

No, it doesn't. It comes from mainstream war mongering as taught by world intelligence agency agents. None of their actions have anything to do with Islam, they just slap Islamic/Arabic terms on the stuff they do. Prejudiced outsiders, determined to vilify an alien religion they have no desire to actually understand, eat that mess up though.

Muhammad Rasheed - Steven Ben-Off Abrams wrote: "But very few people reading the Bible take these portrayals as commands to go forth and do the same in the present time."

There's quite a few Muslims in the world, Steven. The radical terrorist community among them are definitely the minority. We didn't have all of this war mongering unrest in the middle east before WWII, when the British confiscated Palestine and handed it over to the Zionists, who promptly started slaughtering the natives (Jews, Christians & Muslims btw) to make way for their controversial nation-state.

Also, after The Six-Day War, it's pretty clear that the current continuous chaos & strife in the Muslim World is the Zionist nation's new and preferred way of making sure the Arabs don't pool their resources and attack them for wrongs both old & new...

Steven Ben-Off Abrams - I didn't want to get into this sort of discussion, Muhammad. Your points are well-taken. I did not want to argue about the nature of Islam, or the validity of grievances in the Muslim world. My principal point was, having read quite a bit about Tim McVeigh, that his views don't comport with any conventional understanding of Christianity, and that it is a misrepresentation of his beliefs to call him "Christian," although he was raised Roman Catholic. To cite Timothy McVeigh as an example of "Christian terrorism" is misleading.

Muhammad Rasheed - In the Qur'an, the One God of Abraham commands the believers many times to follow the guidance in the Book and the example/way of "this Prophet" it was revealed through.

The Prophet Muhammad, peace be upon him, didn't engage in the same war tactics that ISIS/ISIL does, Steven. The modern Arab war fighter combat methods and mindsets come from a training package that has it's origins in the secular Tamil Tigers, as filtered through the CIA and Mossad who trained their elite. Consequently, it is also misleading -- not to mention hypocritical -- to insist that the actions of ISIS/ISIL adhere to "true Islam." The Muslim World has been conspicuously absent of these atrocities for the majority of its 1500 year history. It didn't look like this before The Six-Day War either for that matter (despite many dumbasses who enjoy linking these conflicts to Ismail/Isaac).

Muhammad Rasheed - Steven Ben-Off Abrams wrote: "I did not want to argue about the nature of Islam, or the validity of grievances in the Muslim world."

"Ahm ya huckleberry."

If you have a pet rant on these two items, I'm open to hearing them and challenging you to defend the positions. When you get time let's do it. I'm pumped.

HYPOCRISY - Cosby vs Sheen

Muhammad Rasheed -



Maybe they were really, REALLY mad at Bill...?
Dee Anne Moore - We all know why...
Rick Drew - Let's not forget that most of Cosby's accusers were black, and several were paid to keep silent. At what point does overwhelming evidence prove something? Sleeping with someone whey you have HIV? Not a big deal if you use protection. Allegedly drugging and raping over FIFTY women. Sure, that's no biggie.
Muhammad Rasheed - Rick, everything after "Let's not forget" is devoid of any actual knowledge of the case.
Stephen Wilkinson - I am afraid I have to side solidly with Rick on this one.
In this day and age you have to assume sexual disease transmissible status with ANYONE you plan to sleep with- being surreptitiously drugged and f**cked? not so much!
( caveat - some of the participants willingly took the drug from Cosby with the understanding that it was a 'happy' drug not a 'knockout drug' lol)
James Mullaney - Oh, c'mon, this is just silly. Stephen Wilkinson and Rick Drew are spot on. The big difference is that these women with evident low self-esteem climbed willingly into the sack with disgusting Sheen, but were drugged and dragged into the sack by even more disgusting Cosby. Another pretty big difference is everyone knew Sheen was a lowlife crawling with every social disease under the sun. Who was surprised by this "revelation?" Cosby, on the other hand, was Mr. Nice and Wholesome, so he had a LOT farther to fall.
Stephen Wilkinson - James, the other point I think is noteworthy ( especially about the shows being on the air) Is that Sheen's character mirrors his real life one, as a boorish, generally unwholesome drunk, drug addled, sleeping with prostitutes and women of low repute AND IN HIS PRIVATE LIFE, Sheen was absolutely the same, albeit more soSheen never set himself up as some exemplar of conduct neither did he make social commentary
Cosby's behavior also spanned a generation so...   >:(
We dont like the idea of losing an icon, and for black people bereft of heroes - especially heroes endorsed by white people, losing one is particularly hard, but I think we do ourselves a disservice and more than that, GREAT HARM by finding offense where none is intended and where none exists. confused emoticon
BY ANY MEASURE, Cosby is a disgusting douchebag, and I HAVE read the deposition that recently was made public and also unreleased court documents in some of the cases he settled.
Mary Booth - There is no comparison.
Dan Bennett - Wondered at that myself. I know in some states tjhat knowingly exposing others to HIV infection, through sexual contact or otherwise, is a criminal. So why is dickweed getting pass on it?
Stephen Wilkinson - @Dan Bennett… It is not the "exposing others" that is criminal, rather "exposing w/o disclosure"
Sheen asserts that
a) due to extensive treatment, he is not 'exposing anyone' since he has an undetectable viral load in his blood
b) He also asserts that he has told sex partners prostitutes that he is HIV positive and that he never hid his status, only paying to avoid it being released publicly.
Some women have claimed that he didnt tell them, he says he has - the law is young and will probably need clarification via an appellate court. It may well be that you cant just TELL someone that you have HIV, you may have to get a signed, notarized acknowledgement   :D
Nishani Frazier - Also important to note that most cases are over the statute of limitations. I have a problem with that concept given that people who are raped suffer a lifetime. But be that as it may, I agree with Stephen Wilkinson. It's time to stop the nonsense and deal with what the man did..... not allegedly but actually did. I also find this generally offensive as a woman given that we are always put in the position of lying until proven without a doubt undeniably truthful. While for men, it is the exact opposite. Also I say this in full understanding of the history/present circumstances of white women who falsely accuse men of color of rape and the idea that numbers does not the truth make (ie Salem witch trial). However these cases stretch across race, class, sheer size, and status. It speaks squarely to moments of opportunity. When he had a chance, he did it. If there is a complaint to be had regarding the racial overtones of this - it is that Roman Polanski is running around without a care in the world. The complaint then is that whiteness and wealth has allowed him to get away where Cosby has no such "protection." However since I have little patience for the abuse of women, I think time is better served talking about how to stop women's rape and less lamenting that Cosby could not get away with it like Polanski. That just sounds stupid.
James Mullaney - I haven't read the particulars of the Polanski case in a long time, so please correct me if I'm wrong. He fled prosecution, was found guilty in absentia, and attempts were made for years to extradite him. So it's not like they didn't try get him. Cosby (and Sheen, if court cases come from it) is -- so far -- sitting in the U.S., and could theoretically be arrested. Now, I confess to not being up on the Cosby case either. Are any of the cases recent enough that he could be arrested? Are there plans to prosecute? I have no idea. I really don't care all that much about celebrities, so I only pick up information on this stuff from an occassional headline. But for Cosby to really be like Polanski, he'd have to flee to Europe and our government would then have to spend years trying to get him back. Still, I get your point.
About Polanski: Chinatown is still a great movie. Can you separate the creepy, pervert artist from his work? Not when he shoehorns himself into his film. I forgot that Polanski had a cameo in the movie. I had not seen it in years until a few years ago, and I did manage to lose myself in the story right up until the point the little creep showed up on screen. Just seeing him was like a rubber band yanking me back into reality, and I think this goes to Stephen Wilkinson's point above (I think...I'm rushed, and can't go through all the previous posts) about why Cosby's shows got pulled from the air while Sheen's show is still on in reruns. Everyone knows Sheen is a grubby little perv. It's his whole act. Cosby's act was the polar opposite. Like I said somewhere above, Cosby had a lot farther to fall. And you can't help but look at him differently now. It's the same reaction I had to Polanksi while watching Chinatown. When Polanksi shows up for his brief cameo, I was momentarily yanked completely out of the movie.
Anyway, I've commented more on these cases than I ever thought I would. I ultimarely don't care about Cosby or Sheen or Roman Polanski: I care about their victims (less so about Sheen's, who had some obligation on their part to open their eyes), which we all seem to agree on. So there's really not much more any of us can say, except I hope you all had a happy Thanksgiving.
Debra Ann Collins - Yes, please explain. Actually, don't bother, because it is the rationale for taking the time to arrest the murderer of nine people in a church in Charleston while another, not-yet-known-offense, in Chicago streets with cameras rolling, a police officer empties his 9mm magazine into the body of a Black teenager. Same logic.
Alonzo McDowell - Just goes to show that white privilege exist and that as much as white people don't want to admit it they is no equality for people of color in America. If you are still in denial about the racism, sexism, classism and religious intolerance after all that has gone on this year, you have serious mental problems and are delusional.
Stephen Wilkinson - There IS "white privilege" , but THIS is not it - by any stretch of the imagination. Desperately reaching for 'proof' in a situation like this not only makes us look bad, but is DANGEROUS.
Why?
Because the WAY we arrive at our thoughts and beliefs is more important in many ways than what we actually believe in many ways!
Raven Black - he is still a rapist for 50 years. CHARLIE ADMITTED HE WAS A HOE. A non self destructive women would not let him go in raw, no matter what he said . i KNOW women LOVE badboys but still.
Gregory Bsggett - I don't get the comparison but then I never do
Muhammad Rasheed - Rick Drew wrote: “Let's not forget that most of Cosby's accusers were black..."



Muhammad Rasheed -


Muhammad Rasheed - Two questions, Rick:
1.) What does "most" mean in your universe?
2.) Who were you trying to remind not to forget what "most" means?
Muhammad Rasheed - Even if I got a couple of them switched, there is still a vast majority of white accusers.
Muhammad Rasheed - Rick Drew wrote: “…and several were paid to keep silent."
Attorneys often advise people to settle just so they won't spend more money & time in a lengthy battle. It's a fallacy to suggest that settling automatically means people are guilty.
Muhammad Rasheed - Rick Drew wrote: “At what point does overwhelming evidence prove something?"
Overwhelming evidence of what? Tell me.
Muhammad Rasheed - Rick Drew wrote: “Sleeping with someone whey you have HIV? Not a big deal if you use protection."
You know HIV can turn into the deadly AIDs virus, right? "Deadly" is not a big deal now?
Rick Drew wrote: “Allegedly drugging and raping over FIFTY women. Sure, that's no biggie."
It could be a big deal if you can prove it to be true. The evidence leans more in the direction of this being a typical gold-digging, west coast money grab, orchestrated by Dolores M. Troian, who is trying to win a multi-million dollar law suit that she'll share among the people that agree to sign on to it as witnesses.
Rick Drew - Ahh. So it's OK - they were white.
Muhammad Rasheed - Remember the part where you made a big fanfare about "reminding" everyone that most of the accusers were black, even though they were conspicuously NOT by everyone else who could actually count?
Let's start there. Please explain yourself, and the point you THOUGHT you were trying to make.
Muhammad Rasheed - Stephen Wilkinson wrote: “I am afraid I have to side solidly with Rick on this one.”
That’s unfortunate.
Stephen Wilkinson wrote: “In this day and age you have to assume sexual disease transmissible status with ANYONE you plan to sleep with- being surreptitiously drugged and f**cked? not so much!”lol Well, fortunately for Cosby, none of these allegations took place in “this day and age.” In fact, in his swingers era, offering people pills if they wanted to buzz or relax was just as common as offering them a drink, so your point is moot.
Stephen Wilkinson wrote: “ ( caveat - some of the participants willingly took the drug from Cosby with the understanding that it was a 'happy' drug not a 'knockout drug' lol)”
All the ones who were drugged had willingly took the pills from him when offered, and knew exactly what they were, and what they would do.
Muhammad Rasheed - James Mullaney wrote: “Oh, c'mon, this is just silly. Stephen Wilkinson and Rick Drew are spot on.”
No, they’re not.
James Mullaney wrote: “The big difference is that these women with evident low self-esteem climbed willingly into the sack with disgusting Sheen, but were drugged and dragged into the sack by even more disgusting Cosby.”
Nonsense. In both cases the two groups of women represented the groupie phenomenon, who wanted to have sex with the two celebrities for whatever usual reasons women want to have sex with celebrities. There was no doubt some level of irresponsibility involved with both groups, but the ones who had unprotected sex were the MOST irresponsible for the obvious (Sheen) reasons.
James Mullaney wrote: “Another pretty big difference is everyone knew Sheen was a lowlife crawling with every social disease under the sun. Who was surprised by this "revelation?" Cosby, on the other hand, was Mr. Nice and Wholesome, so he had a LOT farther to fall.
Let me help you out: The meme is pointing out hypocrisy. Sheen irresponsibly had sex while carrying a disease that is well known able to morph into something deadly, that has already killed millions of people. That was NOT a light matter. Despite this, like you, people are playing light with the situation anyway, and don’t think it a big deal that Sheen be allowed to keep his livelihood. “He was just playin’ around! C’MON! Lighten up! Everyone knows Sheen’s a party god!”
Cosby is being attacked by a greedy, predatory lawyer, who is counting on gossip hungry sheep to agree to throw him under the bus so she can sway a potential jury/judge with the fake court of public opinion and somehow pull this big money out of him, despite NO crime having been proven. At ALL.
Muhammad Rasheed - Stephen Wilkinson wrote: "Some women have claimed that he didnt tell them, he says he has..."
Interestingly, even though the Cosby accusers often continued to have physical relations with him, under Dolores' greedy/drooling prodding, they now say that they didn't know they were drugged, and claim rape, etc. Cosby says none of that is true and he did nothing wrong.
But some of you say you see no comparison here...?
Raven Black - Well even if Charlie didn't tell them, he has a reputation that if he was a woman i wouldnt sleep with her and IF i did, it wouldn't be raw,.
Raven Black - what i am saying is if i had a daughter and she wanted to be in show business, if i found out that she was gonna meet up with Cosby and have coffee at his place or something , a bunch of alarm bells would not have gone off BEFORE THE SCANDAL BROKE of course. But if my daughter said i am gonna meet up with Charlie Sheen for private audition i would be like HELL NO. 
Because he always said what time it was, Cosby was a secret.
Muhammad Rasheed - The "Cosby was a secret" part is where my issues lie. What was a secret exactly? The unproven allegations put together in order to score a $100 million payout?
Muhammad Rasheed - Stephen Wilkinson wrote: “James, the other point I think is noteworthy ( especially about the shows being on the air) Is that Sheen's character mirrors his real life one, as a boorish, generally unwholesome drunk, drug addled, sleeping with prostitutes and women of low repute AND IN HIS PRIVATE LIFE, Sheen was absolutely the same, albeit more so… Sheen never set himself up as some exemplar of conduct neither did he make social commentary”
Are you laying out a case for never having allowed Sheen to have a show to begin with? Because otherwise you’re babbling. If Cosby isn’t allowed his livelihood because he was merely accused by a group of women who were told to do so for no other reason than the promise of a Los Angeles Law Suit Pay Out, then why isn’t Sheen’s livelihood snatched away for being an ACTUAL, PROVEN SCUMBAG?!
Stephen Wilkinson wrote: “Cosby's behavior also spanned a generation so...”
Weren’t Hefner’s last wives old enough to be his grandchildren?
Stephen Wilkinson wrote: “We dont like the idea of losing an icon, and for black people bereft of heroes - especially heroes endorsed by white people…”
More babbling.
Stephen Wilkinson wrote: “…losing one is particularly hard, but I think we do ourselves a disservice and more than that, GREAT HARM by finding offense where none is intended and where none exists.”
Blatant societal hypocrisy – especially along racial lines -- will ALWAYS offend me, and I will call it out when I catch it. You may love it all you like though. Do YOU, Stephen.
Stephen Wilkinson wrote: “BY ANY MEASURE, Cosby is a disgusting douchebag…”
Apparently you’re fond of using the measure of unprovable gossiping magic. This doesn't do you, nor anyone who lines up behind that opinion, any credit. Being an uncritical sheep, willingly tossed to-n-fro by every casual National Enquirer headline, isn’t a good look for anybody.
Stephen Wilkinson wrote: “…and I HAVE read the deposition that recently was made public and also unreleased court documents in some of the cases he settled.”
Oh, good! Then you won’t have a problem cutting-n-pasting the exact parts that prove Cosby is a “disgusting douchebag” without a shadow of a doubt, yes?
Do it. I’m pumped.
Muhammad Rasheed - Gregory Bsggett wrote: "I don't get the comparison but then I never do"
Cosby was merely accused of wrong doing, denied it, and no one can prove he did it... and the accusers themselves have numerous contradictions in their statements. Despite this, his name is sullied and his legacy is being dismantled.
By contrast, Charlie Sheen is a proven and admitted scumbag who's allowed to keep his livelihood.
Muhammad Rasheed - Raven Black wrote: “he is still a rapist for 50 years.”
Based on what? An attorney built a predatory fake case in hopes of winning a $100 million dollars from the wealthy celebrity. In order to pull it off she coaxes these women to lie while using their Grade B acting skills to cry on camera. That’s literally all the evidence you have that Cosby is a rapist.
Raven Black wrote: “CHARLIE ADMITTED HE WAS A HOE.”
By stark contrast, Cosby admitted that he didn’t do the things Troiani and her cronies claim he did. They also lack a single shred of evidence to prove that they are telling the truth. Now what?
Muhammad Rasheed - Stephen Wilkinson wrote: “There IS ‘white privilege’ , but THIS is not it - by any stretch of the imagination.”
Meanwhile it STILL looks like white privilege. The black guy was accused, but not proven guilty, and is punished. The white guy is admittedly guilty of “douchebag behaviors” that the black guy is merely accused of (without proof) but is conspicuously NOT punished.
Stephen Wilkinson wrote: “Desperately reaching for 'proof' in a situation like this not only makes us look bad, but is DANGEROUS.”
Being a blind sheep, following along behind that Troiani and believing every line of her scripts is what makes us look bad and is truly dangerous.
Stephen Wilkinson wrote: “Why? Because the WAY we arrive at our thoughts and beliefs is more important in many ways than what we actually believe in many ways!”
Well, the anti-Cosby crowd have apparently decided to forego even the attempt to arrive at their own thoughts, and are perfectly content with swallowing prepackaged thoughts that the mindless crowd agrees with.
Muhammad Rasheed - Nishani Frazier wrote: “Also important to note that most cases are over the statute of limitations. I have a problem with that concept given that people who are raped suffer a lifetime.”
I agree with you in spirit, it’s just that in this particular case, none of those people were raped. These allegations are a con-job put together by that Troiani. You would be better served directing your womanist/feminist powers in the direction of REAL rape cases.
Nishani Frazier wrote: “But be that as it may, I agree withStephen Wilkinson.”
Ugh. Booo.
Nishani Frazier wrote: “It's time to stop the nonsense and deal with what the man did..... not allegedly but actually did.”
You just stepped off into the land of magic & Make Believe, Nishani.
Nishani Frazier wrote: “I also find this generally offensive as a woman given that we are always put in the position of lying until proven without a doubt undeniably truthful. While for men, it is the exact opposite.”
Under normal circumstances I would stand right by you in this, but I am not willing to burn an innocent man so that that Troiani person may be enriched at his expense. I am not willingly to give up Cosby as a martyr to that cause while there are PLENTY of real life rapists who ACTUALLY did what he is merely [greedily] accused of. Btw it wasn’t lost on me that despite Ceelo Green’s rapist thing coming out, it was immediately ignored…? What happened to that investigation? See, it’s foolishness like that that makes the Cosby allegations even MORE fake to me.
Nishani Frazier wrote: “Also I say this in full understanding of the history/present circumstances of white women who falsely accuse men of color of rape and the idea that numbers does not the truth make (ie Salem witch trial).”
Admittedly, both of these items are part of the reason as to why I’m willing to fight for him.
Nishani Frazier wrote: “However these cases stretch across race, class, sheer size, and status.”No, they don’t. They stretch only as far as the promise of sharing in that $100 million payout and no further.
Nishani Frazier wrote: “It speaks squarely to moments of opportunity.”
Exactly. Troiani (and whoever HER handlers are) see the opportunity to punish the wealthy and powerful black man who dared attempt to purchase NBC, and enriched themselves in the process.
Nishani Frazier wrote: “When he had a chance, he did it.”
He said he didn’t, in direct contrast to the blood sucking lawyer’s predatory claims. I’m not inclined to believe her.
Nishani Frazier wrote: “If there is a complaint to be had regarding the racial overtones of this - it is that Roman Polanski is running around without a care in the world. The complaint then is that whiteness and wealth has allowed him to get away where Cosby has no such "protection." However since I have little patience for the abuse of women, I think time is better served talking about how to stop women's rape and less lamenting that Cosby could not get away with it like Polanski. That just sounds stupid.”
That’s not my argument. I would rather see Sheen stripped of his fortune and legacy too if Cosby has to go down over fake nonsense.
Clark Willis - That should be prosecutable.
Rick Drew - Bill Cosby was like the uncle everyone trusted. You'd invite him into your home, spend time with him, listen to him. Trust him. Sheen? Shit, he's Quagmire from "Family Guy." Everyone knows he's an asshole and probably has more diseases than the CDC can keep track of. I would have trusted a wife or daughter with a dinner out with Cosby. Sheen? Not on your life. That's the difference.
Muhammad Rasheed - What does any of that have to do with destroying Cosby's legacy over unproven and slimy accusations, versus allowing Sheen to keep his legacy even though he's a sleezeball?

See Also:
The Court of Public Gossip
Cos: Silent Stand-Up

Wilhelmina Model Paid to Destroy Bill Cosby Comes Forward

America's Job (according to the GOP)

Gary McCoy –


Bianca Marie - Oh Gary, you love to go where others don't dare tread.   ;)   Love it. Keep up the great work! My best to the family!
Gary McCoy - Thanks, Bianca! Obama's statement was a hanging curveball for a cartoonists. And all our best to you and Gage and the rest!
Bianca Marie - Very true. That and his Freudian slip again about being Muslim. wink emoticon
Gary McCoy - Right. And that's happened more than once.
Bianca Marie - Yuppers, and the most recent was at the G20 Summit in Antalya, Turkey.
Muhammad Rasheed - Looks like the terrorists are being contained to ME...
5 arrested in Va. plot to attack synagogues and churches
Gary McCoy - While to others, not so much...
Paris attacks: Brussels alert extended over 'imminent threat'
Muhammad Rasheed - That's Paris. That's out of our POTUS' jurisdiction. They have their own president. Remember your cartoon is showing Uncle Sam.
Muhammad Rasheed - Here's another one of OURS that was contained:
Man jailed after bombing at Tupelo Walmart
Gary McCoy - More "containment" (btw, the president wasn't referring to containment in  America")...  
19 killed in terrorist attack on a Mali hotel came from around the world
Gary McCoy - His "jurisdiction" is anything and anywhere, to keep American citizens safe. He's not doing such a hot job at that.
Muhammad Rasheed - 1.) Your cartoon's message is that terrorist outbreaks are all over the USA, but he claims to contain them.
2.) I posted two examples of terror being contained in the US before harm was done.
3.) You point out terror in completely different countries, and claim that our POTUS should've been there to stop it.
Muhammad Rasheed - You're weird, Gary. lol
Gary McCoy - Muhammad, you know that cartoons are not always to be taken literally. It's as much a "what could come, given the president's outlook...".
Gary McCoy - And likewise,   :)
Muhammad Rasheed - *amused that you'd think I'd trust your judgment regarding what the POTUS' outlook is*
Muhammad Rasheed - I love it when you tag me in a post. It means I'm doin' something right.  :D
Muhammad Rasheed - I love you, too, Gary. lol

Defending the Race

Clifton Hatchett - Turns out people get angry when you say white Americans are terrorists, too

Muhammad Rasheed - Of course they do. They believe the human drama is all about 'whites vs non-whites,' so of course THEY aren't the terrorists. That would be crazy talk. White people are the Good Guys of history! Even when they make "mistakes" as they call them, just wait a little while and then pour some Liquid Paper™ on it.

See?! Good as NEW!

Clifton Hatchett - Collectively delusional is what you just described, and apparently many in that lot were fans of of Bob Ross, with their ''happy little accidents.'' Like so what if a few million Black and Brown People die.

Lyle DeRoulet - Stop reading these bullshit race baiting head lines. You guy's don't talk to whites about shit, you post shit and read shit that was written to make you think that.

Muhammad Rasheed - So that guy DIDN'T walk up into that church and kill a bunch of blacks because he wanted the Turner Diaries to come true?

Muhammad Rasheed - Thank God a white dude showed up to tell us the truth! We almost went astray using our own brains!

Muhammad Rasheed - Thanks, massa! [salute]

Lyle DeRoulet - I never said he didn't but thanks, I suppose you stole everyone's shoes afterwards too, because blacks don't like talking about that. See what I did..

Lyle DeRoulet - Don't take me wrong this guy should have died that day. All I'm saying is think about how many whites you do speak to about these issues and you'll know the truth. You saying this is just the same saying all of you steal do drugs and don't work. Social media is a bad thing in many ways. .

Muhammad Rasheed - lol The difference is that I don't believe all whites are terrorists. I don't know any blacks who do think that.

But I DO know plenty of Christian whites who believe blacks should never be president because they are black, and who believe Muslims should never be president because they are Muslims.

Muhammad Rasheed - I don't want to take you wrong, Lyle. Feel free to explain your point of view further to make sure we are on the same page.

Lyle DeRoulet - True and I could say the same.

Muhammad Rasheed - About what?

Lyle DeRoulet - About the same issues blacks are just as racist. You did notice you showed your true color right off the bat. But I'm the bad guy.

Muhammad Rasheed - Whites have spent the last several centuries working hard to make sure the idea of White Supremacy is indoctrinated into everyone; the belief that whites are the only real 'persons' in society. We have to come to whites in order for new ideas to be legitimate, and legally entered into popular culture. This is the "true color" of the society I live in. Your attempt to make it seem as if non-whites have equal power and threaten White Supremacy is only in your head.

Muhammad Rasheed - To be clear, those two atomic bombs were dropped on Japan because the Japanese were the only true threat to the Global European White Supremacist Domination of the world in the 20th century. They were the only non-whites who actively tried to compete. The bombs were dropped to let the non-whites of the world know what the Euro-Ethnic was willing to do to maintain his economic-political dominance. He was NOT willing to share the world stage.

Muhammad Rasheed - That is the "true color" of the world.

Clifton Hatchett - Hiroshima and Nagasaki are the literal definition of a terrorist attack.

Lyle DeRoulet - So let me ask, why do you think I'm white?

Muhammad Rasheed - "Try to compete with us and we will melt your children into pools of radioactive goo. WHITE POWER!!!!"

Muhammad Rasheed - Lyle DeRoulet wrote: "So let me ask, why do you think I'm white?"

1.) Because of the nature of your responses in this thread

2.) Because of how you look in your profile photo

Lyle DeRoulet - See you point what you think is about race and not control. Do you think when blacks kill blacks it's about race getting rid of your competitors?

Lyle DeRoulet - Maybe you should try harder be forvyou judge. Clifton Hatchett go through my family pics and tell me what i am.

Muhammad Rasheed - The only blacks that kill blacks are the criminal element in poor neighborhoods. That same element among whites kills whites in poor white neighborhoods for the same reasons, and in similar numbers. That's a strawman argument.

Lyle DeRoulet - Oh so the rich or governments can't be criminal elements..

Muhammad Rasheed - The bigger issue is when the whites with the political power order the deaths of non-whites to further their ideological agenda of White Supremacy.

Lyle DeRoulet - Are you sure it's all about race of money? I know all you points.

Muhammad Rasheed - Lyle DeRoulet wrote: "Oh so the rich or governments can't be criminal elements.."

Don't be silly. You tried to derail the topic into pretending that poor black criminals killing poor people is the 'real' issue, and I took the time to address it.

Muhammad Rasheed - Lyle DeRoulet wrote: "Are you sure it's all about race of money? I know all you points."

It's all about a monopoly of power by the wealthiest Euro-Ethnic Groups. It's all about "whites versus nonwhites" by the European cultures waging war on everyone else.

They want to exploit everyone else for their own selfishness while pretending they are the good guys. That's what it is all about.

Muhammad Rasheed - That is the nature of the "race baiting," by the way. Somehow you think that the exploited classes complaining is where the race baiting starts. lol

It's not. It starts where the assholes going around attacking everyone else because they feel that they are the master race is where the race baiting began.

Lyle DeRoulet - Well since I can't post quickly enough on my phone against 2 people who attack me because of my skin and not my ideals this doesn't matter. Even if I make points you can't hear me, you just want to post and attack. Well have fun.

Muhammad Rasheed - "Attack you?"

Muhammad Rasheed - You're the one that saw the mug shot of your boy up there and showed up on your white horse to defend him, yes? wtf?

Clifton Hatchett - lollollol....he bailed.

Lyle DeRoulet - I wasn't attacking I just tire of that same lame posts from everyone on here.

Muhammad Rasheed - When is the quality of your own posts going to go up?

Muhammad Rasheed - Clifton, where do you find these people?

Lyle DeRoulet - I give a shit about him, it's the head line.

Clifton Hatchett - @Lyle...your only response can't be... ''I'm tired of this shit,'' because that's basically what your saying. I've never attacked you personally, so don't act like I have. @Muhammad....I'm a uniter not a divider...lol... It's a public page.

Muhammad Rasheed - It was rhetorical. lol

Clifton Hatchett - Lyle, you don't think that, and it's not true. I talk to White People exactly like this, to be clear, I talk to everyone the same. I attended Maury HS, just Google it, and it's in Ghent here in Norfolk, Google that too, and look at my friend list...lollollol... You really think I don't know any of them personally...you're crazy if you think that... Before you give yourself a fit, go and talk to racist you know personally, in your family, amongst your friends, and have an honest discussion, then tell me about it. Getting angry without cause helps no one.

Tony Brown - He can't be a terrorist, he has a "mental illness".

Clifton Hatchett - And I want you to know the difference Lyle.



Lyle DeRoulet - Don't take me wrong we all know racism is alive and well, to be honest I don't like arguing about nonsense post like these but damn that's all that's in my feed anymore. Half the people I friended for bad ass art only post accusational hate anymore..

Clifton Hatchett - We have friends and family being abused, beaten, and killed by people who are supposed to serve and protect, and there are people in elected positions and authoritative roles under investigation for KKK affiliation, you want everyone to ignore it, that's crazy.

Lyle DeRoulet - No but read this post it has nothing to do with what you have beef with.

Clifton Hatchett - Anonymous post a list with thousands of KKK(White People) names and the positions they hold, and mainstream media doesn't report it. Anonymous declares war on Isis(bad brown people) and it's all over the news. Somebody has to speak up.

Clifton Hatchett - ''Aversive Racism'' is a term pushed by two behavioral scientist, Samuel L Gaertner, and John F, Dovidio, you might find it to be interesting and it might provide insight into the topic and your position.

Muhammad Rasheed - Lyle DeRoulet wrote: "Clifton Hatchett go through my family pics and tell me what i am."




Muhammad Rasheed - Looks very Euro to me, but I'm not exactly a connoisseur...

Lyle DeRoulet - My Halloween is awesome.

Muhammad Rasheed - That's very subjective. lol

Lyle DeRoulet - It's Halloween and that's to far.

Clifton Hatchett - @Lyle...WTF is that shit? Explain yourself.

Muhammad Rasheed - Calling this convo "race baiting" is too far to me, so I guess we're even.

Lyle DeRoulet - I made that lol. I was going to do that to a furry costume but made that instead lol.

Muhammad Rasheed - I thought he was going to say, "I don't have to explain myself to you [racial slurs]!!!"

I'll admit to a certain amount of disappointment. hahaha

Clifton Hatchett - WTF is THAT?

Lyle DeRoulet - I told you that's not me, I don't like the head line and that is race baiting. Clifton it's a Brony costume, there are people who are our age who get all crazy for my little pony.

Clifton Hatchett -




Clifton Hatchett - I have found this to very entertaining. Good Day Gentlemen.

Clifton Hatchett - wait,wait,wait,......WTF is that...lollollol...I can't stop laughing.

Clifton Hatchett - Now I'm gone. Be well.

Muhammad Rasheed - Lyle DeRoulet wrote: "I told you that's not me..."




Clifton Hatchett - Seriously...I try to leave, but this is just too much...lollollol....

Lyle DeRoulet - What ever lol later people's..

Muhammad Rasheed - Lyle DeRoulet wrote: "...I don't like the head line and that is race baiting."

You don't like the idea of your demographic being the bad guy of the story, and it makes you twitch with cognitive dissonance. That's all. The "race baiting" label is 100% bullshit.

Lyle DeRoulet - No it makes me feel like you. Being accused for my skin.

Clifton Hatchett -




Muhammad Rasheed - I have never accused a white person anything "because of their skin." That's you all's invention. No.

I accuse you of attacking the world and imposing your White Supremacist Domination on it so you can exploit everyone. "Race" is the banner the Euro attacker flew when he did it.

Lyle DeRoulet - Please reread what you just posted.

Muhammad Rasheed - That's an accusation of ACTIONS, not "skin color."

Muhammad Rasheed - Europeans began their global attack under the banner of Christianity, but that didn't last long since the victioms could just convert their way out of the exploited class. So they invented White Supremacy as a political force.
Lyle DeRoulet - Well I guess I'll wait for my race to dominate so I one day can see the results. Because it's never helped me.

Muhammad Rasheed  - There's nothing wrong with you being 'white.' A member of the European ethnic groups. Celebrate that all you wish, with my blessing.

But there is PLENTY wrong with believing in that "White is Right! White people versus the world!" shit. THAT'S the part I reject as the world's greatest evil.

Lyle DeRoulet - It is wrong, supremacy over anyone isn't right.

Muhammad Rasheed - Thanks. NOW we can start to agree.

Unless you ruin it.

Lyle DeRoulet - Lol I'm tired of bad headline flooding my feed is all. I like clifton and other but it's all people of color post anymore it seems.

Muhammad Rasheed - Cell phone cameras giving the "man in the street" the instant ability to record historical racist wrongs makes this a new era in speaking up for yourself.

Natually I can understand why the idea of the exploited class speaking up for themselves, and becoming better able to advocate, would irritate you. You probably hate it and want everyone to just stop talking about it, amIright?

Lyle DeRoulet - No just lines like in this headline bother me.

Muhammad Rasheed - I have a few questions for YOU, Lyle:

What exactly makes the status post "nonsense?" Why do you consider it to be "race baiting" exactly?
Do you get mad when you hear/read "white Americans are terrorists, too?"

Clifton Hatchett - So the headlines bother you more than the actual atrocities being committed Lyle? Do you hear yourself?

Clifton Hatchett - Inquiring minds want to know?

Muhammad Rasheed - Oh, look! More White Terrorists!

Race War Plot Leads to Five Arrests on Federal, State Charges

Muhammad Rasheed - Good thing we had the article in the status post provide the facts of the matter so we wouldn't be blindsided by even more of these folk's bullshit! *whew!*

Magick, Monsters & Assassination!

M. Rasheed's Two Graphic Novel Series:

Monsters 101, the adventures of Pugroff & Mort!
Books 1-10, 152 pages each
b&w interiors

Tales of Sinanju: The Destroyer (based on characters created by Warren Murphy & Richard Sapir)
Books 1-6 (of 10), 66 pages each
b&w interiors

Racism or Its Rejection?

Gerald Welch - Isn't this racism???
Prof: I Chose Not To Have Children, Because They’d Be White
Victor Donald Smith - I think not reproducing is un-racism.
Jason Bodin - Yes
Rick Drew - More like no guy would have her.
Scott Rocky - I'm glad she did not have children, because it would be another generation of this lunacy.
James Mullaney - Rick is right. She's using the Pee-Wee excuse. 
Pee Wee's Big Adventure - Bike Flip
Dale Chrystof - what a self-loathing idiot
Paul Dunn - I feel no guilt, but seriously think these people need professional mental health help.
Muhammad Rasheed - I completely disagree with her Dolezal comments. I think the former NAACP cell prez was just a con-artist.
I don't see why I should consider her to be a racist. All she's saying is that when she honestly confronted the truth of the privilege born from a Eurocentric, White Supremacy Dominance, it made her repel from the horror of it. She wants to reject the political social contract of "Whiteness," not reject her biological 'whiteness' as a member of the European ethnic groups. The former is raw evil, while the latter is her very human natural state that no one rational wants to deny her.
Gerald Welch - I think she is racist because she doesn't understand that this is a cultural issue, not a racial issue.It's like she thinks her kids will get the white disease or something.
Gerald Welch - Totally agree with you concerning Dolezal. Wow.
Muhammad Rasheed - It is a cultural issue. Global domination based on race, was a cultural trait birthed out of Euro-cultures united for the 'ideal' of White Supremacy. That's the part she's recoiling in horror from.
Gerald Welch - But does she think that merely having kids will contribute to the problem? If so, she is providing a genetic excuse for bad behavior which, again, is racist.
Muhammad Rasheed - This extreme stance is just here initial cognitive dissonance emotional reaction. I'm sure it will level off.
She would be racist if she was denying someone basic rights of some kind because of their race. I can't say that she is doing that.
Muhammad Rasheed - Your attempt to treat her absolutely harmless, horrified, visceral reaction to evil as if it is in every way as bad as the evil itself, is interesting to Note though.
Gerald Welch - Racism doesn't have to do something bad, just think of less or more of one race BECAUSE of the race. In this case, that white automatically means evil, regardless of upbringing.My point is that if she believes that white equals evil, she does not understand.
Muhammad Rasheed - lol That's not the impression I get from her. This is a classic case of cognitive dissonance, which by necessity, will not begin with a rational outburst.
Muhammad Rasheed - She's feeling an intense shame and horror based on ACTIONS. Those same actions built up a certain amount of societal privilege for certain demographics who didn't even have anything to do with the most direct of those actions. That's specifically the part she's recoiling from.
Gerald Welch - Wonder what she thinks of Bronies...
Muhammad Rasheed - You should FB Friend her and ask.
Randolph John Carter - Someone has a poor understanding of genetics.
Korac MacArthur - she's free to marry a black man or whoever she wants if it makes her happy. I think she has other issues.
Howard McGill - She could always marry an African-American like Obamas mother did and then her children could be half White like OBAMA IS
Muhammad Rasheed - @Howard... That won't work. America has always had that "One-Drop Rule," remember? Traditionally you would be ostracized if it came out you had any amount of African in you as part of the breeding of new generations of slaves by the owners themselves phase. Now that a self-identifying Black American has made it to the highest office in the land, magically his white side is conspicuously being over-emphasized. Unusually so considering the history.
Dan Bennett - I haven't seen anyone characterize Obama as white. I did hear one talk show host who called him "50 Percent", though.
Muhammad Rasheed - That's exactly the part. There's a weird over-emphasis on his 'white side,' and his bi-racial-ness for no other reason than because he's the POTUS. In any other circumstance it would be the black part that is emphasized, per the "One-Drop Rule."
Gerald Welch - Not familiar about the One Drop Rule, but if it is what I think it is, we would all be black.
Muhammad Rasheed - lol True. But racism has never been known for being rational.
Nick Carroll - It's white guilt. I haven't read the article but she is likely from the regressive left.
Shane Black - Thankfully, since I've only seen two individuals out of 318 million who have gotten any traction espousing this attitude, I don't think it's a big problem, except to the mentally ill people who suffer from it. Don't know why it's a news story.
Muhammad Rasheed - lol In THIS particular case, I think the rag is showcasing it just to point out how wacko the 'regressive left' are, Shane.
Michael Hodges - I agree with her exercising her choice to not reproduce. If she feels her children would be "white" and this causes her to recoil from a perceived wrongness inherent race and she not only doesn't want to contribute to that perceived wrong but feels her children would automatically be instituted into "white-think" with NO sense of individual social equality or justice, simply ignorant of a privilege they can't themselves perceive and thus contributive to a giant, bad situation -- then she made the right choice by not reproducing.

BATTLE MODE - Afrocentric Rumble

Dalian Adofo –


What aspects of African Culture and Traditions do you know least about; will you take this opportunity to learn more?
The film vignette, Rituals For Living, covers various African rituals including different prayer forms, developing a relationship with the water we drink for healing, setting up altars and spiritual baths for cleansing amongst others: from a range of African traditions such as the Dagara, Vodou and Zulu, appropriate for non-initiates and initiates alike!
Rituals for Living
Ancestral Voices Vignette: Rituals for Living Trailer 

RITUALS FOR LIVING:The film vignette, Rituals For Living, covers various African rituals including different prayer forms, developing a relationship with the water we drink for healing, setting up altars and spiritual baths for cleansing amongst others: from a range of African traditions such as the Dagara, Vodou and Zulu, appropriate for non-initiates and initiates alike!
ANCESTRAL VOICES 1:An educational documentary opening up a much-needed debate about traditional African spiritual systems; their cosmologies, ideologies and underlying ethical principles. Also exploring issues such as, the negative portrayal in the media and effects of colonialism.Digital downloadDVD copies
ANCESTRAL VOICES 2:A systemic investigation of shared spiritual African philosophies and practices across the various communities on the continent and its legacy in the Diaspora. Topics will include concept of the Supreme Being, Forces or divinities of nature, Ancestors, African forms of prayer and ritual practices for personal spiritual development. Currently in post-production, kindly donate to help complete this film!LINK
Partisan Black - Don't know any, so given African Americans unique position, I'm creating my own and working on a family language/writing system for my children.
Dalian Adofo - @Partisan Black… how is African American's position any more unique than African Caribbeans, African/Black British etc? You guys are not the only blacks in the diasporia, i think often many forget that!
Rather than trying to reinvent that has no currency, why don't you make an effort to learn an African language of choice so you can link in with a larger community globally?I mean if the language/writing system is just for you and your children...how does it help collectively?
Partisan Black - Answer me this: Why do I need to be something that I'm not? A Jamaican knows he/she is not from Africa. He/she recognizes his/her roots are based from the continent, but why should they drop who they are now to adopt one of thousands of identities? So which are you going to adopt? Nigerian culture? Well that's one layer, but there are many sub-cultures within it? Or how about Zimbabwean? Angolan? Senegalese? Gabonese? Eritrean? Tunisian? Sounds like you are going to pick something for the hotep cool factor than practicality. African Americans are unique in the same manner that Jamaicans, Trinidadians, Panamanians, Afro-Brazilians, etc are unique. They are all DESCENDANTS of Africa, but have developed their own separate identities that make them unique. I'm not sacrificing myself to adopt something I'm really not a part of. And that's out of respect for other African cultures and myself. I appreciate, not appropriate. As far as creating a language, African Americans don't have a language to call their own. We only have English. English is not us. The only importance of English in any culture is that English is the language of BUSINESS. Creating a language is more for self identity and determination. Just one branch of progress. And all things start from zero in the same manner that every great journey starts with one step. I'm creating the language to pass to my children. And when they have children, hopefully they pass it down the line so on and so forth. If it keeps getting passed down, eventually it will become a community language. Then a regional language. That's how you take something that has no currency and give value to it. Mormons started with a handful of people. The idea of the Nation of Islam began with one person. But over time, what happened? Don't knock what you don't understand thoroughly. Too many youngsters think in the short term only and forget about the long term. And reinvention is not a bad thing. If you had the opportunity to reinvent a country after seeing all the flaws, would you not jump at that opportunity?
Zibusiso Miller - Creating your own language isn't as easy as you think, people have lost touch with phonetics and its purpose. Words are a cultures attempt to resonate with an item and with each other... such a thing usually develops over a VERY long period of time and is quite intricate. I'd go so far as to say that you can do yourself and your family more harm than good in more ways than one in attempting to create your own. Psychologically it can do you damage comparable to using a badly understood mispronounced mantra... it'll jack you up something good in time.
Zibusiso Miller - I would also disagree with your claim that A.Americans don't have a language, you do. Its in your common dialect which still retains its link to Africa in its use and creativity. If you are genuinely interested in finding yourself I'd suggest a DNA test to find the marker you share with ethnic groups on the continent. Much easier than creating your own language.
Partisan Black - @Zibusiso III… I know Japanese and I'm also a software engineer that can program in 3 languages. Creating a language is a lot simpler than you think. As a software engineer, you learn how to solve problems. With Japanese being my second language, rules are easier to decipher, because Japanese is very structured and strict. Using that, I already know how to tackle this. You take the entire problem and break it down into smaller pieces and build from there. Then you build a working prototype, fine tune, test, fine tune, test and so on before you get into advanced topics. You stick to the basics. Hello, good bye, past, present future, interrogation, command, identifiers, prepositions, whether sentences are based on SVO (subject verb object like English) or SOV like Japanese. Phonetics is all by design and not an issue. There is no known psychological impact on creating a new language. Where you got that is completely false.
Partisan Black - @Zibusiso III… Slang is not a language. A language is distinctive, not a slight variation. Australian English, South African English, American English and British English are all English dialects among themselves. Isolate each one from each other for 10,000 years and you will see a drastic change, possibly to the point where one barely, if not at all resembles the rest. That's a language.
Partisan Black - @Zibusiso III… But overall, nay-sayers are never innovators.
Omisefun Fagbenro Amusan - Creating your own spiritual system as an individual is impossible. You have to have an energetic ancestral and cultural cosmological base to tap into. So the most you'd be doing is borrowing bits and pieces from already invented wheels to reconstruct what isn't lost. It's redundant and even psycho-spiritually dangerous for a person that isn't an adept to dabble in such things without guidance. Theurgical practices aren't a joke.
Zibusiso Miller - AAmerican dialect isn't slang, granted its mixed up in all kinds and has suffered just as AAmericans have but at its core is an African Euro-American dialect similar to patios regionally
Zibusiso Miller - What Lady omisefun is saying about spirituality and theurgy goes well for language - scripting and PC programming a machine is one thing, scripting and programming the mind is another - I'd go so far as to ask that you not attempt to raise your children on the idea and as Dalian said, stick to known languages through a dna test
Omisefun Fagbenro Amusan - 


Partisan Black - @Zibusiso III… And what you said is not different than what's said in the programming/script world. You have the immature mindset of "that's too hard." You rationale is no different than the slaves who didn't want to stand up to their masters, because they believed their masters were too powerful. Why you and Dalian are so adamant on stopping someone is questionable. If it's not for you, then leave it alone. I'm not a Pan African. Not all of use here subscribe to the Shea Butter Kundallini forces. If you want to follow Umar's steps, that's you. Have at it. If you want to follow along the lines of Tariq Nasheed, that's you. Have at it. If you want to follow along the lines of these hotep hustlers, Black Hebrew Israelites, pimp preachers, NOI, etc, that's you. Have at it. But don't come around trying to dictate the next man's path as if you are somehow supreme just because you follow some book or ideology. All you are doing is creating an unneeded divide. Furthermore, I don't need to take a DNA test. I'm not worried about my links. On top of that, even after Africans found out what went on with their people on the other half of the world, did they come to liberate our ancestors? No. But you want to return with open arms to those who gave up your great-nth grandparents. And another reason why I don't need a DNA test is because even if I do happen to find the country of origin, the language in of itself of that country is not homogeneous. You seem to forget that within a country, there are so many other languages. So how am I to even know that I'm picking the right language from such a broad area? Then you have to factor in the people currently there. Why would I try to assimilate with a people that doesn't even know me? What is their reception of me? I bet you didn't think of it that far. Look in the mirror. All you and Dalian are doing is regurgitating white supremacist rhetoric to stop Black people. If you feel you need to wear the head wrap, dashiki, pray to the Egyptian gods (which in all actuality, African Americans have no direct connection to Egypt, yet dismiss all the other kingdoms in Africa, because they aren't popularized), then do you. I'm not the one going out of my way to tell you what you can or can't do. Many white supremacists and coons told me programming was too hard to my face to try to get me to go elsewhere. But now I have 3 languages under my belt and learning about embedded systems. White supremacists told me learning Japanese was hard. But now I can speak, read and write Japanese. The reason I learned it is so I can listen to what the Japanese are speaking of in terms of technology. You need to stop looking at things at face value and dig deeper. I for one am not interested in the social and cultural hand-me-downs of my oppressors and those that abandoned their own people. I would rather help define and refine the African American identity. Or have you not noticed that whatever African Americans create, it ends up being pillaged by the rest of the world leaving you with nothing to call your own?
Partisan Black - @Omisefun Fagbenro Amusan… I'm not interested in creating a spiritual system. But don't ever say it's impossible as an individual. You might want to look at all the African American inventors and see how many of them created what looked impossible--possible. To say it's impossible is nothing more than mental laziness. I don't run from difficult subjects. I examine and try to solve them. Do you know what's difficult? Try solving the remaining hardest math problems in the world. There's about 6 of them if I'm not mistaken. If you can prove or disprove the problem, you will get a million dollars. Things seem impossible if you don't understand the rules. Stop doubting yourself and be confident in your own abilities. We don't need followers. We need innovators, real thinkers (not these pseudo-internet so-called intellectuals), inventors, people who are scared to tackle difficult tasks, people who are validate themselves by the likes they receive from those who remain ignorant, risk takers, calculators, etc. If you are not one of them, you are wasting your own life potential.
Zibusiso Miller - My question or lack of understanding of African spiritual culture.
In studying and practicing various forms of spirituality there is often a distinct goal to be reached/realized, the training of ones senses in Eastern philosophy, the control over the elements in others. Q: How does an African spiritual practitioner aspire toward enlightenment? 
Understand the devotional path but otherwise?
Dalian Adofo - @Partisan Black… Fair enough I get what you're trying to say, and I think its also this need to see ourselves as 'unique' when everyone treats such on a single basis- our melinated epidermis (black skin)- that is increasingly becoming problematic and allows for others to pick us of like easy targets!
Now I am inclined to believe that all your assertions are based on panderings to fantasy, not rooted in pragmatism and practical applicability...I don't need to pick anythign form 'hotep cool factor', i was born in Africa, so I know very well where i'm from, thank you very much!!
And as Zibusiso III clearly stated...if you're really that interested in finding out about yourself why not take a DNA test to triangulate and at least get an idea where you most likely are from. I get the feeling this is somethign you are unwilling to do because there sounds like you have an inherent anti-African bias? Well your problem then...
Why does African-Americans need their own language? Do Chinese-Americans, Asian-Americans (some who have been in America for generations) make their own language??? What is the need, yet this is the line you want to follow, again confirmation of your own anti-African stance, its backward things to say the least
You also appear very naive about the nature of those organisations you mentioned e.g Mormons and NOI, they progressed only because the socio-economic and other factors were necessary at the time for their development, hence their success? What is yours? Context is key for a full-on understanding else you are just deluding yourself 'cos you are only acting on partial information 
What mandates that a new language is necessary- how will it affect or change the status quo of African Americans in general!? 
You clearly lack an understanding of psychological and sociological awareness necessary for social organisation hence your off-the-bar vision to think your own family language will bloom and develop into some powerful cultural artefact generations from now...HOW, BY A MIRACLE???
You can't even guarantee your own children will carry it on hence your own use of the words 'If they do...', 'hopefully they will...' etc
The world wasn't built on hope my friend, and the number of IFS show you are very unsure about its viability or transmitability, because at the root of it, there is no systemic organisation behind your actions, so whilst it may work for you as an individual in your lifetime, it can definitely NOT be replicated on a mass scale. 
Do yourself a favour and at least research and read into the manner in which political organisations have developed mass fellowships over the years...rather than list them as if a magic carpet will take you there!
Dalian Adofo - And finally Partisan Black because this is one of the most inane conversations I have allowed myself to be dragged into, and we have reached the crass stage where people are pulling out their 'professional expertise' as a kind of justification for their contributions, lol, laughable whenever I witness this in online debates...People almost want to be lauded, even when the only evidence presented is their words online with no certificate to prove such qualifications, lol!
Well I'm also an Educational Consultant, been teaching over 13 years...if you really think just because you are a software engineer and the process by which you program instructions and get feedback is the same manner in which humans also learn, then you will fail miserably! 
FYI a didactic method may work for machine because they lack their own consciousness to randomly react to given external stimuli, but humans need more than this- even beyond the so-called 'Socratic Method' plus some constructivist approaches, because at core we are conscious creators, the learning transaction is a 2-way street and not simply a case of Subject, Object, Verb...
Do your children a favour and engage them in something worthwhile than your own illusions of grandeur, because when you are no more you will find them incapable of doing anything of their own volition...but that's your life son, you do with it what you wish! grin emoticon
Peace
Partisan Black - Spoken like a true white supremacist. Bye Felicia. 


Partisan Black - White boy, you are Olympic-running long winded. You drew your own self in of your own accord. Take your fake profile and one friend with stolen pics to FOX News.
Dalian Adofo - @Partisan Black… How can I draw myself in of my own accord when YOU came to comment on MY POST?! FFS!
The only person that needs running along is you- with your mishmash ideology of confusion and nothingness...about bye, you MOOOVE!
Omisefun Fagbenro Amusan - Egotistical prioritizing of individualism is the bane of our existence. How do you pluck a theurgical practice and process of individuation out of thin air? You can't. Human perception is limited and it takes generations to accumulate the knowledge of one's natural environment, let alone how to work with energy. Even the NOI and Mormons were a borrowed mishmash of earlier teachings with no actual ritual practice in the former, which is why they linked up with the malevolent occultist L. Ron Hubbard's scientology auditing. It makes no sense, but arrogance will convince oneself otherwise.
Dalian Adofo - Lol Omisefun you know we're the ignorant ones you know, we are underestimating Partisan Black's power...he will be able to pull an entire spiritual, social and cultural system out of thin air, just because he says so, or rather, types so!?
I really can't...Simone was really right 'To work with our people we needs tons and tons and tona and....of patience! wow, talk about wilful ignorance! smfh
Omisefun Fagbenro Amusan - When a person wont even humble themselves in front of the wisdom of their ancestors, they'll stall out.
Dalian Adofo - When they do stall there will be a Zimmerman type waiting for them patiently...hopefully after their reincarnation they can come back a better, improved version?! upset emoticon
Omisefun Fagbenro Amusan - That's cold Dalian lol. #OgunDontPlay
Dalian Adofo - Lol Omi my social etiquette is simple...3 strikes, then if still trying to act like an ignoramus, we can all get dirty! he he he wink emoticon
Zibusiso Miller - Three strikes, wow - thought we were playing cricket? Bowlers are usually quite accurate squint emoticon
Omisefun Fagbenro Amusan - Lol. This guy is funny. DNA tests give you your ethnic group of origin and therefore language. These American centered insults towards Asante and Jamaican brothers in the UK just demonstrates how small the Afriphobic worldview is for some in the States. Can't think outside the fish bowl of arrogance to save their life.
Omisefun Fagbenro Amusan - Even proud of American imperialism that spreads African-American stereotypes across the globe, and calls other diasporans that are inundated with the propaganda "pillagers". Leave him to it.
Omisefun Fagbenro Amusan - You don't understand ancestor veneration or nature. A spiritual system is an accumulation of generations of collective information. It is not the product of one individual in one lifetime. Only the extremely arrogant and completely ignorant would think an individual creates a village.
Omisefun Fagbenro Amusan - Your thinking is the result of American individualism, which is a myth, a white supremacist myth that keeps people from working collectively for qualitative change. We are interdependent and collectivism is the only way forward. Kill the egocentric messiah complex.
Zibusiso Miller - We've let him jack up the thread
Zibusiso Miller - Always fun and all but I had genuine questions about african spiritual systems and enlightenment
Omisefun Fagbenro Amusan - Unless he was blocked, there was no way to stop that from happening lol.
Zibusiso Miller - They can be fun sometimes, gotta be in the mood for them
Partisan Black - @Omisefun Fagbenro Amusan… I'm quite flattered that you and Dalian Adofo managed to waste all this time playing comment-tag with each other to boost your own self-esteem by talking about me. I don't think you understand how much of a fool you both just made yourselves look. To go this far says that I have quite a psychological affect on the both of you. But I take no joy in it, because what good is taking joy in beating the mentally impaired and intellectually inept who can't see further than their own nose? Bye Felicia. And a parting gift to the both of you: 
Fake Hotep Negroes & All Lives Matter 

"So Says The Mob!"

Muhammad Rasheed - An argumentum ad populum (Latin for "appeal to the people") is a fallacious argument that concludes that a proposition is true because many or most people believe it: "If many believe so, it is so."
It is logically fallacious because the mere fact that a belief is widely held is not necessarily a guarantee that the belief is correct; if the belief of any individual can be wrong, then the belief held by multiple persons can also be wrong. The argument that because 75% of people polled think the answer is A implies that the answer is A fails, because, if opinion did determine truth, then there would be no way to deal with the discrepancy between the 75% of the sample population that believe the answer is A and 25% who are of the opinion that the answer is not A. However small a percentage of those polled give an answer other than A, this discrepancy by definition disproves any guarantee of the correctness of the majority. In addition, this would be true even if the answer given by those polled were unanimous, as the sample size may be insufficient, or some fact may be unknown to those polled that, if known, would result in a different distribution of answers.This fallacy is similar in structure to certain other fallacies that involve a confusion between the justification of a belief and its widespread acceptance by a given group of people. When an argument uses the appeal to the beliefs of a group of supposed experts, it takes on the form of an appeal to authority; if the appeal is to the beliefs of a group of respected elders or the members of one's community over a long period of time, then it takes on the form of an appeal to tradition.
One who commits this fallacy may assume that individuals commonly analyze and edit their beliefs and behaviors. This is often not the case.
Stephen Aquino Sales - Nose bleed! Profound words Muhammad, very well said   :)
Muhammad Rasheed - This is Wiki!
Stephen Aquino Sales - Wow! lol
Ali Rashada - What you describe is the difference between being right (everyone agrees with you) and being correct ( what you say is true and provable)
Muhammad Rasheed - This post is describing a logical fallacy, called the "argumentum ad populum," in which a debater will erroneously state that their position is the correct one simply because a lot of people agree with it. Being "right" and being "correct" are synonymous, being items that can be backed up (proven) with measurable facts, unlike demonstrations of this spotlighted fallacy.